Sam Yo’s life story sounds like a movie - from London’s West End to a Thai monastery to instructing Peloton classes. He shares his story and learnings on how he approaches fitness, life and everything in between.
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Well, hello there, thank you for tuning in too Extra Healthyich. Of course this is the big sister podcast Too Healthy Ish from Body and Soul. I am Felicity Harley. Now my guest today. His name is Sam Yo and his life well it sounds like a movie. He started out on London's West End, then he went to a time monastery and now he is instructing Peloton classes. He joins us today to share his story and also his wisdom and learnings on how he approaches fitness, life and everything in between. Sam, thank you for joining us today on Extra Healthy Ish.
Thank you for having me for very very excited to be here.
Yeah, and welcome to Australia listeners. Sam is actually from the UK, but is in Australia and sadly we couldn't get you in the studio, which is you know, sad for us, but nice to have you on the podcast anyway.
We hoping next time next time I pop in this year, next time in Australia.
Yes, yes, Now, before we get going, I have to ask you a question, as I do for everyone who comes on this podcast, how do you stay extra healthy ish in your life?
I make sure that I'm accountable to myself, you know, and just to realize that, you know, if I don't have the time to do a long hour run, I can do half an hour and still be okay with that. And you know, and that's high style healthy is it's something better than nothing, you know. And there's times when I literally done the whole week and I haven't had a chance to do any exercise. So I find time maybe to meditate, so that kind of you know, exercises my mind. And you know, there's two things I can into physical and mental in the week after. It puts me in a much more focus, uh stet in mind to maybe push out those physical aspects.
I'm too when you say accountable to yourself, is that are you talking about? I mean, in some ways I sense you talking about your expectations, you know, what you hope to achieve out of your week this week. I mean, do you go into a week, for example, with thinking, Okay, this is coming up, this is one I'm going to fit in and then if you don't, are you you know, how do you mentally deal with them?
Yeah, because then there's a lot of you know, uh fugge about the same balance. You always got to be balanced but what you've got first do is establish your rhythm and beat for each individual day, because each individual day you're going to be moving to a different beats. So today my beat is this, I'm able to do X, Y Z, and then tomorrow my beats can be different. Maybe I can just just do X. So it's knowing that every day is a different rhythm and then within that find the balance for that specific day. And sometimes it's it's weeks where your beat is completely different, and then you're able to go back and forth, back and forth.
How do you start your day?
How do I start my day? I start my day removing. I wake up, I take five breaths. That's the first thing I do before I even get up, before I remove, I make sure I lie there and take five breaths and.
Just kind of innocense. It kind of brings me in to a moment.
And it's something I did in the monastery as well, as they said, don't rush when you wake up, you know, be geat, you know, fight five breaths, be great, Get grateful for the space that you have, Be grateful for the breath that you have in you, you know, and be grateful just your presence of just being there lying in the bed because sometimes we wake up when we rush. As soon as we rush, we lose us five breaths, and one of those breast is gratitude. We need that gratitude. That's a foundation for a lot of stuff that we do, you know, at work, you know, you know personally, you know, you know, with with our with our families, we've got to have that gratitude as that base. And there's five breaths of gratitude is one of them.
So what are the other four do you have?
Yeah? So the first one is gratitude. Yeah.
The first one is to be in the present moment than the second one the present moment. The third one is to is the space to thank the space that I mean, you know, you know, you know sometimes we take it for granted that we have a roof over ahead and we're sheltered. You know, we're kind of very privileged in that sense that we don't have to think about that.
You know.
The next one is for the breath in my body being there for another day and being another day. And then the last one I always do is for my family. So just remember you that and then that, and it sets a great foundation for me to move into whatever I need to do.
Yeah, I love that. What a great thing to do every morning. Okay, I'm going to get that a go tomorrow. Thank you.
Yeah.
Because when you like rushing, to just lie there and just take five de breaths and it just it does it. It kind of centers and research your nervous system as well. And in the moments before you wake up, your mind is clear because as soon as you start moving looking at this, and then that's when all those inphuensis coming in. So the moments you wake up, that is when you're purely you. Nothing else has injected and change for patterns.
Yeah, I like it. Now, Well, let's go back a bit, you know, before you became a monk. Tell us a bit about your story, you know, growing up in the UK as an immigrant, and how this led you to go back to Thailand when you were twenty three.
So when I was growing up, I was I always felt like I was not part of evil world.
You know.
I was not quite you know, Thai Chinese enough. I was not quite English enough, you know. And when you're growing up you sometimes define define yourself.
By the perspective of others.
How I was look and see me, you know, and and that does influence you because you're still trying to find yourself. And you know, I spent a lot of time sort of trying to self expression. So I did the martial arts and the movement, and I went into theater. These are more things trying to express myself and find myself. But what I knew I was missing was that self awareness. I had self expression idea of self awareness, and growing up, I went to Sunday School, which I was taught by monks in Sunday School, and I always found monks as a sense of wisdom about any questions. I always asked the marks and they were always so self aware. They had this self aware or around them, which which I completely lacked. And when I was doing musicals and stage and screen, I was kind of always following the crowd, you know, and I was always feeling like I needed to be validated by what I was doing or who I was with or stuff like that. So, you know, it came to a point where I was in my early twenties and I needed to do something different. I needed to take myself out my comfort zone. So once you're out your comfort zone and you're in a different environment. That's when you can really excel. And I remember telling my mother driving in my car that, oh, I'm going to go back to time and be a monk. And she turned to me to you joke it, She was like completely like because I never voiced any interest in it, never voiced any interest in it. And it was very difficult for my parents as well, because I looked at it in the sense of a very selfish way.
It's a personal thing I want to do. But for my parents there.
In a sense of losing a child because I wouldn't I would be there, but in a difference, they wouldn't be able to see me on the weekends.
They wouldn't come around to do my laundry.
And like even like my mother, because of the precepts of Buddhism as mum, she wouldn't be able to hug and hold me because she was a female.
Things like that. I didn't Yeah, I didn't think about those things. Yeah, my mother wouldn't be able to hold me anymore.
So she was like, you know, really, I wouldn't stay upset, but you know, but she she realization what it meant for her. But you know, afterwards, you know, she was so proud. She was so you know, she she she was so proud of me.
I suppose she was probably fearful because you were going way as Sam that she and knew, and you could come back as a completely different Sandh.
Yeah.
Yeah, because at that time I didn't know if I was going to come back of what I was going to do. I just knew I needed to detach myself from the environment that I was in, and for me, the safest environment which I knew which really would help with my growth was in a monastery and to go back to Thailand to do it as well, and not even be in the UK, where you know, I had language to help me.
I could speak time, but my tie was very conversational.
So it's basically you know, you know when Buddhism were saying earlier it was being a complete beginner at discovering yourself. So, you know, I was in the Manskeen for like ten months, and then when I came out, I realized that how vowed everything was, and how people were talking and communicating but not really listening.
That's the main thing.
You know, there's an art to listening which people don't realize. And I was in an environment where people their main goal was to listen to you and to learn about you, and you know, to be a service to self and the service to others.
That was the two main things. And you know, first, you know.
Be a service to yourself because if you can't help yourself, you can't have others. And then be a service to others, so it becomes more than just about you.
We'll be back after this short break with more from Sam. What was life like when you're in the monastery? What what was the days like?
So the days like, you know, we would we would we rise up, We rise.
About four half four in the morning, and then the first thing that we do we'll go to the temple, we do our prayers, we do our chanting, and then we'd meditate.
We'll meditate together about thirty thirty thirty forty months if we lived in the monastery. And then after that's we're going on our arms round. So that's when we'll go into the the village with our arms bowl and people would give us food and we would bless them and give them a good.
Merit for the day.
So that would take an hour, then come back and then I would generally eat with my fellow monks who started with I used to call them my my monk crew. There was like five of us who got ordained in the same day. So we'll eat together, uh, and you know, we can only eat what we had in our.
Armed bowl. So it's you know, it's it's it's it's moderation, yeah.
You know, it's and anything else that we couldn't fit in the bowl, we we donated to the kitchen and they're donated to someone else. So you know, that was very different because I was used to having as much food as I want. And the thing is, we realized that a lot of it was excess. You know, you know sometimes when you eat too much and you feel heavy.
Uh.
But because I had this you know bowl which I can only fit certain that food, and you know, I realized that I was just consuming too much for the reason because I could.
Yeah.
And then you know, and then I would would have would have lessons, so we would have lessons and chanting and and you know, spirituality and wisdom. You know, we work on the you know, the eight partway fold, you know, the different dimensions of how it exists. And then in the afternoon, it was basically chores and just what you needed to do for yourself, time for yourself.
And why did you what did why did you leave? I mean it was ten months the specific amount of time you want to go or you felt like you had grown and got out of it what you needed personally, you become more self aware.
So because originally I thought maybe I thought maybe I'd spent spent two months there, but I realized after two months, I just about.
I was just I was just able to let go.
That's when I've just started to let go and you know, not be so hung up about the things in the past, and you know, really really be in the moment, because you know, I struggled with so many things, like the food because I don't eat spicy food. I struggled sometimes in the language, and I was for the first two months in my mind, I was trying to make excuses to leave because I wasn't embracing the situation. I wasn't embracing the space. So within two months I found like I really started to embrace the space. And then that's when I really started to learn. I really started to develop a lot of self awareness. So as I was there, what did happen was on my arm's roots. When I used to go to the village, I would go to my aunt's house. So that was like my final stop to my aunt's house and my family's house and I head back, and my grandmother should always be there. And so it got to a point where it was like a week or two weeks that she wasn't there, and you know, and they didn't tell me that. She didn't want to tell me that she was ill and she was in hospital, so I didn't disturb my mindset, so you know, I and I kind of started to question why she she's there, and they they wouldn't tell me. They said, oh, no, she's she's tied, she's asleep, because they knew that because I was very close to my grandmother, they didn't want to.
Distruct disrupt my practice.
So you know, eventually they told me, well, she was in the hospital, but she's better now and she's at home. So for me, the realization of you know, maybe it was my time to leave was that I couldn't detach from these emotions.
And that was okay, yeah, you know, because.
You know, part of being the monstrous to detach, and I didn't want to do that because mainly it was because I'd spend a lot of time already out of the monastery. Yes, because I knew people who've been in the monstrom sinces are ten years old, very easy detaching from their family and friends. And I realized that that was still a big part of me, and that.
That attachment is what makes me me. It was part of that self discovery.
And so, you know, it got about ten months and I kind of, you know, it's time for me to leave, you know, I feel that I know who I am, and I wouldn't be able to make the decision to leave if it wasn't if it wasn't for realizing that I was attached, which is it's quite as kind of Jack to position there.
Yeah. What a magical experience though for you, And no doubt, I mean, gosh, there's so many learnings from that time for you that you're obviously take into the rest of your life. I mean, how did you How did you go from leaving a Bardist monastery to then becoming a Peloton instructor. It just seems that the unlikely connection.
Yeah, So, I mean, the more unlucky connection is what happens when I left. There was a few years, so I actually went back into theater. So I went from I went from prey hands, I went from jazz hands to pray hands, prayer hands.
Back to jazz hands.
Love it.
And then.
You know, then through the course of those years, I.
I need I needed something.
I felt I needed something to be of service too, and and and that's when I kind of went back into my love of self expression and the fitness and I got qualified as a fitness coach and I just really enjoyed teaching people and and and helping people. So you know, I've I was, I was a coach.
And I was.
Doing stuff in the West End and film at the same time. And then like one day I got a DM from someone from Peloton saying, oh, we've been We've been coming to your classes.
You know, we love what you do. Do you want to do? You want to have a coffee?
And at the time I didn't know who a Peloton was because I was I wasn't I think I had like fifty followers on social media, which I never use. And you know that DM was in my DM for like a month. But they've been scouting deeper out for like three months, going to studios doing classes in London, in America and in Canada, and then looked over about forty so about four hundred instructors across there, and they kind of narrowed down to ten, and then I went through this whole audition process. So they approached me in February, and then my first live class for Peloton was in November. So the whole year was the whole training to become an instructor. And at the time, because Peloton is it's fitness and it's kind of entertainment, so I felt there was a marriage that there's two things I was doing, fitness and entertainment. But as I kind of have grown and developed into disruptor, I am now the coach. I am now I realize that it's actually my monastery journey in there as well in how I teach her. I kind of feel like this position is I've been kind of training for this position for all my life so far, and all these random experiences from the musicals, from the monastery, from motivation come together and synergize into this this platform vibe I'm so privileged to be part of.
Now.
I love that you say random, because they are random, but they're not really random. So what's your life philosophy today, I mean, how do you show up for your like how do you show up in life?
Well, one of the things I love to say is I am a disciple.
Of a better memm So every day I'm a student.
Every day I'm learning, you know, and you know, going back to the beginner's mindset, you know, every day I'm open to to learning new things, and that way it keeps things interesting as well, you know, and you know, and not judging.
What you don't know as well.
There's a lot of a lot of times we judges as what we don't know, and then we feel hesitant to start learning new things, especially as we get older as well. You know, we we you know, we get to a position where we don't think, okay, I might you know, I'm forty years old, I think I'm gonna start running and I think I'm gonna start training for a marathon because you know, sometimes we've got to think we do, We've got to do all that when we're younger, but we don't have the with the we don't have the the.
Fitness mindset when we're younger.
You know, one of our one of our amazing instructors, Susi Chan, she started running being she's you know, like thirty six or something like that.
Wow, yeah, she's run I.
Don't know how many Amrathans. I can't I can't tell you how many Americans she She did a bad Waterer one three five, which is a one.
Hundred and thirty five mile race in the desert.
Oh yeah, that one of those crazy ones.
Yeah. But she started looked in a like mid thirties.
Yeah, never too late, never too late.
Yeah, it's never too late.
Sam. It was lovely to have you on Extra Healthy. Thank you for coming on and sharing your wisdom.
Thank you so much for having me.
What an incredibly interesting life that Sam Yo has led. And wow, I can tell you before I pressed record on our interview, we had a slight, slight issue with the sound, and he was so calm and so centered. Anyway, I could chat to him for a very long time. And I hope you enjoyed this chat as well. If you did, make sure you rate and review it. Or of course you can subscribe to this podcast or share it with a friend someone who needs some inspiration in their well, in their spiritual journey, in their life journey, in their fitness journey, whatever it may be anything else. Head to body and soul dot com dot you follows on socials. Grob Our Print edition which is Our in your local Sunday paper and until tomorrow it stakes trealthy ish