Hey, how are you. Thanks for tuning into Extra Healthyish, the big sister podcast to Healthyish. Both of these are of course from Body and Soul and I'm your host Felicity Harley. Australian boxer Harry Garside joins me in the studio today. Now you may have read a lot of headlines about Harry over the past six or so months. He's had a really tough time through it all. His name has been cleared, of course, and he sits down with me today and he opens up about all of that and how he has stayed mentally well okay and strong through a lot of it. And also I think you really like his self awareness, his emotional intelligence. It actually blew me away. I really enjoyed this chat with Harry. He was a very kind, caring soul and I hope you get a lot out of it too. Harry, thank you for coming on Extra Healthy Ish.

Hey, how are you. Thanks for tuning into Extra Healthyish, the big sister podcast to Healthyish. Both of these are of course from Body and Soul and I'm your host Felicity Harley. Australian boxer Harry Garside joins me in the studio today. Now you may have read a lot of headlines about Harry over the past six or so months. He's had a really tough time through it all. His name has been cleared, of course, and he sits down with me today and he opens up about all of that and how he has stayed mentally well okay and strong through a lot of it. And also I think you really like his self awareness, his emotional intelligence. It actually blew me away. I really enjoyed this chat with Harry. He was a very kind, caring soul and I hope you get a lot out of it too. Harry, thank you for coming on Extra Healthy Ish.

Thank you for having me on and in HQ.

Thank you for having me on and in HQ.

We always love it when we have guests in the studio.

We always love it when we have guests in the studio.

Yeah, it's so good to be in person.

Yeah, it's so good to be in person.

Conversations are so much better in person.

Conversations are so much better in person.

So much better. I was actually working for a youth organization during COVID and we had to work, Like with young people over zoom it was so hard, so hard.

So much better. I was actually working for a youth organization during COVID and we had to work, Like with young people over zoom it was so hard, so hard.

Trust me, I had young children go through school.

Trust me, I had young children go through school.

Yeah, that would have been more difficult.

Yeah, that would have been more difficult.

Now before we start, I have to ask you, how do you stay extra healthy ish in your life?

Now before we start, I have to ask you, how do you stay extra healthy ish in your life?

I think there's three things that I think are really important. And sleep, making sure you're prioritized to sleep. That's really important. Getting a good diet. I always shown my higherfore me athlete, so it's pretty important. But it's your body is like a Lamborghini. You're not going to put bad eat and fuel in the land beginning. You're gonna put premium unloaded fuel, So treat your body right. And then also as well, staying hydrated. So three simple that I think are really important for pillars of health.

I think there's three things that I think are really important. And sleep, making sure you're prioritized to sleep. That's really important. Getting a good diet. I always shown my higherfore me athlete, so it's pretty important. But it's your body is like a Lamborghini. You're not going to put bad eat and fuel in the land beginning. You're gonna put premium unloaded fuel, So treat your body right. And then also as well, staying hydrated. So three simple that I think are really important for pillars of health.

What sort of diet do you follow as an f Like as a boxer, are you high carb load? It's a really huroteine.

What sort of diet do you follow as an f Like as a boxer, are you high carb load? It's a really huroteine.

Yeah. It's a really hard sport because boxing is are making weight sports, so we have to be a certain weight and usually like I walk around about seventy killers and I fight at sixty three and a half and I'm pretty small as it is, so you've got to be really careful. Obviously, carbs are great when you're when you're a while away from comp so you can train hard. But then obviously the closer you get, you start cutting it out, start cutting it out, and then yeah, so you're really limiting your food that last week. But it's all part of the game. But very high protein, high carb you mean, high fiber diets and then cut out the fibers sort of as you get.

Yeah. It's a really hard sport because boxing is are making weight sports, so we have to be a certain weight and usually like I walk around about seventy killers and I fight at sixty three and a half and I'm pretty small as it is, so you've got to be really careful. Obviously, carbs are great when you're when you're a while away from comp so you can train hard. But then obviously the closer you get, you start cutting it out, start cutting it out, and then yeah, so you're really limiting your food that last week. But it's all part of the game. But very high protein, high carb you mean, high fiber diets and then cut out the fibers sort of as you get.

Closer to do you work with the nutritionists for that.

Closer to do you work with the nutritionists for that.

Yeah, I'm really fortunate that the Institute of Sports in Australia they look after us so well. So we've got like dieticians, sports people who really help us. So yeah, I don't have to think about much, which is just.

Yeah, I'm really fortunate that the Institute of Sports in Australia they look after us so well. So we've got like dieticians, sports people who really help us. So yeah, I don't have to think about much, which is just.

Tell me what you Let's go back to when you were a kid. What was Harry like as a kid?

Tell me what you Let's go back to when you were a kid. What was Harry like as a kid?

I was always I was so curious. I think I find a lot of I found a lot of passion in like climbing things and exploring things and spending hours of time sitting on the trampoline looking up at the sky. I felt always felt a little bit different. I'm the youngest of three boys to my talder brothers. They were pretty rough and pretty pretty bloky, and it's probably the reason why I started the s water boxing was to be more like them, because I think it's quite normal that you look up to the people around in the box. They didn't box, but they would always fight with each other, and they would always fight on the footy field. They're beautiful, beautiful people, but they're always just doing bloky things. And then I felt really scared compared to them, and quite powerless compared to them, and I think I wanted to start boxing to I guess prove I was a man. And then I fell in love with it almost instantly.

I was always I was so curious. I think I find a lot of I found a lot of passion in like climbing things and exploring things and spending hours of time sitting on the trampoline looking up at the sky. I felt always felt a little bit different. I'm the youngest of three boys to my talder brothers. They were pretty rough and pretty pretty bloky, and it's probably the reason why I started the s water boxing was to be more like them, because I think it's quite normal that you look up to the people around in the box. They didn't box, but they would always fight with each other, and they would always fight on the footy field. They're beautiful, beautiful people, but they're always just doing bloky things. And then I felt really scared compared to them, and quite powerless compared to them, and I think I wanted to start boxing to I guess prove I was a man. And then I fell in love with it almost instantly.

What do you love about it?

What do you love about it?

It's the most pure and primitive place we can go. People often forget that we're animals, and I think we all have this animal instinct inside of us, and when I exercise that inside the boxing ring, I learn to control it. But I think especially for a young man, but young people in general, we all have it. Male or female, we all have this something inside of us that if you put someone in the right situation, this animal encinc will come out. And you put a mum between a dangerous situation and a kid, and you watched that animal and sink come out. I'm sure you may have felt that in your life many times. Absolutely, And that's the thing, right, we all have it inside of this. But what boxing does, especially I think for young men who have this aggression and energy which I had growing up, it makes you learn to control it. And I feel like I'm way more balanced because of the sport. And when I'm in there, it's so meditative. The whole world stops and you can almost see your heart. It's the heartbeat of your opponent. Everything is just so primal and that and I love that.

It's the most pure and primitive place we can go. People often forget that we're animals, and I think we all have this animal instinct inside of us, and when I exercise that inside the boxing ring, I learn to control it. But I think especially for a young man, but young people in general, we all have it. Male or female, we all have this something inside of us that if you put someone in the right situation, this animal encinc will come out. And you put a mum between a dangerous situation and a kid, and you watched that animal and sink come out. I'm sure you may have felt that in your life many times. Absolutely, And that's the thing, right, we all have it inside of this. But what boxing does, especially I think for young men who have this aggression and energy which I had growing up, it makes you learn to control it. And I feel like I'm way more balanced because of the sport. And when I'm in there, it's so meditative. The whole world stops and you can almost see your heart. It's the heartbeat of your opponent. Everything is just so primal and that and I love that.

Do you ever get worried when you're in there fighting? You know, worried about I mean, especially at the moment with there's so much research into concussion and things like that, do you ever get worried? Yeah, like scared, I suppose.

Do you ever get worried when you're in there fighting? You know, worried about I mean, especially at the moment with there's so much research into concussion and things like that, do you ever get worried? Yeah, like scared, I suppose.

Yeah, probably not scared about injury in the actual moment, like the anualanc thing comes out. It's very much you're in the moments, you're not really thinking about it. But I definitely do think the older that I get. I'm only twenty six, I'm not that old, but I definitely do think the closer I get to becoming a dad, I start thinking about that stuff. You mean, I want to be a dad one day and being a dad is way more important than anything I do in my boxing career, so I know when to walk away. I've given the sport of boxing all of my life from the age of nine, and I'll know when it's tarned to walk away. But I've still got a few more things to do.

Yeah, probably not scared about injury in the actual moment, like the anualanc thing comes out. It's very much you're in the moments, you're not really thinking about it. But I definitely do think the older that I get. I'm only twenty six, I'm not that old, but I definitely do think the closer I get to becoming a dad, I start thinking about that stuff. You mean, I want to be a dad one day and being a dad is way more important than anything I do in my boxing career, so I know when to walk away. I've given the sport of boxing all of my life from the age of nine, and I'll know when it's tarned to walk away. But I've still got a few more things to do.

When did you realize that you were actually pretty good at boxing? Feel free to have a whatever, we can edit this thing out his drink of water. When did you realize that you were a pretty good boxer?

When did you realize that you were actually pretty good at boxing? Feel free to have a whatever, we can edit this thing out his drink of water. When did you realize that you were a pretty good boxer?

It's so interesting because, like, I think, your level of success changes, right, like me winning a state title when I was like twelve. I think my first state titles when I was fifteen, so I lost a few. My first move when I was twelve, and I lost a few, And when I won the state title, I was like, oh my god, this is amazing, this is all I wanted. And then it's the national title and always just gets bigger. But I think I think I thought that I could do something special on an international level, probably at the Commos Games in twenty eighteen, and to win I was twenty years old, to win a gold medal on home soil against some really class opponents from the Commonwealth. I think that was the moment where I said I'm going to be an Olympic gold medalist one day, but I didn't fully believe it. And when I did that, I was like, I can actually do this. And I think that was probably the moment I was like, Okay, let's go, let's go.

It's so interesting because, like, I think, your level of success changes, right, like me winning a state title when I was like twelve. I think my first state titles when I was fifteen, so I lost a few. My first move when I was twelve, and I lost a few, And when I won the state title, I was like, oh my god, this is amazing, this is all I wanted. And then it's the national title and always just gets bigger. But I think I think I thought that I could do something special on an international level, probably at the Commos Games in twenty eighteen, and to win I was twenty years old, to win a gold medal on home soil against some really class opponents from the Commonwealth. I think that was the moment where I said I'm going to be an Olympic gold medalist one day, but I didn't fully believe it. And when I did that, I was like, I can actually do this. And I think that was probably the moment I was like, Okay, let's go, let's go.

What does it feel like representing your country knowing that you know all these where all of us are cheering our lounge rooms for you, We're hoping that you'll, you know, fly our flag and stand on that pod at number one. How does that sit with you?

What does it feel like representing your country knowing that you know all these where all of us are cheering our lounge rooms for you, We're hoping that you'll, you know, fly our flag and stand on that pod at number one. How does that sit with you?

I feel like a young kid who was inspired by Grand Hackert in two thousand and four. I'll never forget that memory him women in the fifteen hundred meter final and moments like that. John Aloisi and Mark Schwartz are in two thousand and five to qualify the soccer use. What a moment that was. Obviously the two thousand and eight Olympics, Matthew Mitchram, Steve Hooker, there was amazing moments in that. And I think I've.

I feel like a young kid who was inspired by Grand Hackert in two thousand and four. I'll never forget that memory him women in the fifteen hundred meter final and moments like that. John Aloisi and Mark Schwartz are in two thousand and five to qualify the soccer use. What a moment that was. Obviously the two thousand and eight Olympics, Matthew Mitchram, Steve Hooker, there was amazing moments in that. And I think I've.

Had some great You've had some great models. We all have some great role models in sports.

Had some great You've had some great models. We all have some great role models in sports.

How lucky, and I think our sport is so I think a lot of countries are, but especially Australia. We don't have a full massive culture because we've only been around for a few hundred years besides the First Nations, but it's our culture is very much driven on sport and it's amazing and I love that. It's like the reason as to why I walked away from professional boxing back into Olympic boxing was because Australia number one and Olympic gold medal for boxing, and I'm trying to do something that's never been done before because I love his country to bits and to think that if there was a boxer, whether it be me or someone else on my team, when an Olympic gold medal and hopefully that changes the narrative of the slater boxing in this country.

How lucky, and I think our sport is so I think a lot of countries are, but especially Australia. We don't have a full massive culture because we've only been around for a few hundred years besides the First Nations, but it's our culture is very much driven on sport and it's amazing and I love that. It's like the reason as to why I walked away from professional boxing back into Olympic boxing was because Australia number one and Olympic gold medal for boxing, and I'm trying to do something that's never been done before because I love his country to bits and to think that if there was a boxer, whether it be me or someone else on my team, when an Olympic gold medal and hopefully that changes the narrative of the slater boxing in this country.

Well, I think you're definitely on your way there. Talk to us about getting ready for Paris, because that's you've got your eyes on the big prize. How do you mentally get ready for it? Well, you're not, you know, qualified for Phlympics, but how do you mentally get ready for the big stage.

Well, I think you're definitely on your way there. Talk to us about getting ready for Paris, because that's you've got your eyes on the big prize. How do you mentally get ready for it? Well, you're not, you know, qualified for Phlympics, but how do you mentally get ready for the big stage.

Yeah, it's it's a really interesting one. I think I've always I've always believed and I've only changed this recently disbelief, but a big portion of my life I believe that I had this inferiorly complex, like I wasn't good enough and maybe when I achieve those things, I'll feel good enough. But that I think that's so. I can't swear that I think that's bullshit. I can swear it's yeah, I think that's bullshit because it's like the fact that I'm in the arena giving it a crack, giving it a go, regardless of the result, proves that I believe I can do it. And so I actually think there's almost like an element of superior to complex when it comes into it. I'm in the arena, I'm giving it a shot, and I think preparation is so important, and I'm a big portion of my day, almost eighty five percent of my day is thinking about my goals, how I'm showing up to each session, and that in term is thinking about Paris tway twenty four. So for the next year, it's pretty much like full steam ahead for that and I'm really grateful because I feel like it's really important for myself. But I also think all humans to have something that we're working towards gradually. I mean it's like something that we're really passionate about and we're just grinding out. Whether that be your family, whether it be your job, or whatever it is, but it's your purpose. For me, it's trying to win an Olympic gold medal, and that's my phobus for the next year.

Yeah, it's it's a really interesting one. I think I've always I've always believed and I've only changed this recently disbelief, but a big portion of my life I believe that I had this inferiorly complex, like I wasn't good enough and maybe when I achieve those things, I'll feel good enough. But that I think that's so. I can't swear that I think that's bullshit. I can swear it's yeah, I think that's bullshit because it's like the fact that I'm in the arena giving it a crack, giving it a go, regardless of the result, proves that I believe I can do it. And so I actually think there's almost like an element of superior to complex when it comes into it. I'm in the arena, I'm giving it a shot, and I think preparation is so important, and I'm a big portion of my day, almost eighty five percent of my day is thinking about my goals, how I'm showing up to each session, and that in term is thinking about Paris tway twenty four. So for the next year, it's pretty much like full steam ahead for that and I'm really grateful because I feel like it's really important for myself. But I also think all humans to have something that we're working towards gradually. I mean it's like something that we're really passionate about and we're just grinding out. Whether that be your family, whether it be your job, or whatever it is, but it's your purpose. For me, it's trying to win an Olympic gold medal, and that's my phobus for the next year.

We'll be back after this shortbreak with more from Harry. It's really interesting hearing that you felt like you weren't good enough, because often women talk a lot about this, like young women. We don't really hear men talk about this because you know, we are in a patriarchal society and we just think, oh, it's only women who always feel not good enough, but men suffer this too. Yeah.

We'll be back after this shortbreak with more from Harry. It's really interesting hearing that you felt like you weren't good enough, because often women talk a lot about this, like young women. We don't really hear men talk about this because you know, we are in a patriarchal society and we just think, oh, it's only women who always feel not good enough, but men suffer this too. Yeah.

Of course, obviously I can only speak from my experience, but I've definitely felt that numerous times in my life where it's like there is this internal belief even I'm currently I got painted and put in the Archibold Prize, and I remember I went to the Archi Ball and there was just something inside of me going like, you don't deserve to be out there, Like there's this internal talk, and I feel like we all have this.

Of course, obviously I can only speak from my experience, but I've definitely felt that numerous times in my life where it's like there is this internal belief even I'm currently I got painted and put in the Archibold Prize, and I remember I went to the Archi Ball and there was just something inside of me going like, you don't deserve to be out there, Like there's this internal talk, and I feel like we all have this.

It's almost like it's just being human.

It's almost like it's just being human.

Yeah, it's almost like there's something inside it. It's like a light in the dark protection. Yeah, someone telling us that we're not good enough and we need to protect ourselves, or there's something else as well telling us that we are good enough. And I felt this inside myself. There's just a constant battle between my light and my dark. And the one you feed the most is the one that's allowedest. And there's times where I feed that the negative one, but a big portion of my life I think I've fed the positive one, So I'm grateful.

Yeah, it's almost like there's something inside it. It's like a light in the dark protection. Yeah, someone telling us that we're not good enough and we need to protect ourselves, or there's something else as well telling us that we are good enough. And I felt this inside myself. There's just a constant battle between my light and my dark. And the one you feed the most is the one that's allowedest. And there's times where I feed that the negative one, but a big portion of my life I think I've fed the positive one, So I'm grateful.

What do you do when you start when you feel like you're feeding the negative one?

What do you do when you start when you feel like you're feeding the negative one?

Are you?

Are you?

I mean? You strike me as a very self aware person. How do you pull yourself out of that kind of negative feedback loop?

I mean? You strike me as a very self aware person. How do you pull yourself out of that kind of negative feedback loop?

So one simple trick, This really works for me. Right, So when I and there is a portion, So I'll probably go on a cycle like maybe two times a year where I feel something's going on and something's not right inside myself, and I think it's because I've fed that negative wolf, and I fast for twenty four hours the next day. Right, It's just a simple trick that I do. And it's just more so to get back because we all feel whether it be like pick a goal the next day and achieve it and just really sit in that feeling when you do achieve it. Right, it's I could be mowing the lawns. It could be something so small, but really feel it when you achieve that. And when I fast for twenty four hours, I feel like I've recentered myself and I've got my word back and it's a little win. And then the next day I feel better.

So one simple trick, This really works for me. Right, So when I and there is a portion, So I'll probably go on a cycle like maybe two times a year where I feel something's going on and something's not right inside myself, and I think it's because I've fed that negative wolf, and I fast for twenty four hours the next day. Right, It's just a simple trick that I do. And it's just more so to get back because we all feel whether it be like pick a goal the next day and achieve it and just really sit in that feeling when you do achieve it. Right, it's I could be mowing the lawns. It could be something so small, but really feel it when you achieve that. And when I fast for twenty four hours, I feel like I've recentered myself and I've got my word back and it's a little win. And then the next day I feel better.

Yeah, where did you get your emotional intelligence from? Because you're very self aware, you are very in touch with what you're thinking and you're feeling, and you're confident talking about it. Where did this come from?

Yeah, where did you get your emotional intelligence from? Because you're very self aware, you are very in touch with what you're thinking and you're feeling, and you're confident talking about it. Where did this come from?

Yeah, it's I've always had really deep conversations with my with my family. I think as well, being the youngest of three boys helps because I often was observant and I would view them a lot and not do the dumb things that they did. But I also think the biggest one is probably sport. Right, Like, we're constantly asking our body to do certain things. We're reflecting on performances all the time, We're constantly critiquing ourselves so we can be better, and I think it's it's really important. I went through some serious stuff this year, and and and it was it was really challenging. And but the reality is as well, what I went through, it's like I've got so much to learn from one that relationship, but also that situation. I can always be better, i can always grow, and there's there's things that that I've taken from that, and I'm really grateful that I have that attitude. Whether you win, lose, or draw, there's always room to grow, there's always room to be better. And I think that has really helped my emotional intelligence, having that like understanding.

Yeah, it's I've always had really deep conversations with my with my family. I think as well, being the youngest of three boys helps because I often was observant and I would view them a lot and not do the dumb things that they did. But I also think the biggest one is probably sport. Right, Like, we're constantly asking our body to do certain things. We're reflecting on performances all the time, We're constantly critiquing ourselves so we can be better, and I think it's it's really important. I went through some serious stuff this year, and and and it was it was really challenging. And but the reality is as well, what I went through, it's like I've got so much to learn from one that relationship, but also that situation. I can always be better, i can always grow, and there's there's things that that I've taken from that, and I'm really grateful that I have that attitude. Whether you win, lose, or draw, there's always room to grow, there's always room to be better. And I think that has really helped my emotional intelligence, having that like understanding.

And often in those darker moments, you have the biggest growth.

And often in those darker moments, you have the biggest growth.

Right. Actually wrote a poem about this, and I can't It was a pretty mute, a very average one, but I started in twenty one.

Right. Actually wrote a poem about this, and I can't It was a pretty mute, a very average one, but I started in twenty one.

Like you just tick all the boxes, don't worry.

Like you just tick all the boxes, don't worry.

I have many dark touchs. I'm human. But I wrote a poem with something about self suffering and self sabotage. And I feel like there is times where I felt myself almost self sabotaging myself. So I feel that pain, so I feel that adversity, so I feel that dark time because I know that there's always beauty that comes from and it's a little It's almost like a toxic pattern that I about myself doing at times. But I'm grateful I have the self awareness to sort of pull myself back when I am doing.

I have many dark touchs. I'm human. But I wrote a poem with something about self suffering and self sabotage. And I feel like there is times where I felt myself almost self sabotaging myself. So I feel that pain, so I feel that adversity, so I feel that dark time because I know that there's always beauty that comes from and it's a little It's almost like a toxic pattern that I about myself doing at times. But I'm grateful I have the self awareness to sort of pull myself back when I am doing.

You did talk a bit in our interview about the dirt on your name and that hard time. You know, I feel like any It's funny I discussed this with my husband before I came on the interview with you, because he used to play AFL professionally, and he often says to me, I think back and think, gosh, I hope I haven't done anything in my past. You know, he's a good man that comes back to bite me. I mean, he self checks himself a lot. Now, how how do you feel with this notoriety? What do you How do you cope with that?

You did talk a bit in our interview about the dirt on your name and that hard time. You know, I feel like any It's funny I discussed this with my husband before I came on the interview with you, because he used to play AFL professionally, and he often says to me, I think back and think, gosh, I hope I haven't done anything in my past. You know, he's a good man that comes back to bite me. I mean, he self checks himself a lot. Now, how how do you feel with this notoriety? What do you How do you cope with that?

Fame in general is such a wild thing. It's it's I wrote another poem about that.

Fame in general is such a wild thing. It's it's I wrote another poem about that.

It's like I think I'm expecting a book some days.

It's like I think I'm expecting a book some days.

It was I'm pretty sure I'll try and remember off the top of my head, but it was like, I think people want to be Everyone wants to be famous, but recently I wish that I was nameous, nameless. All of you fail to see just how lonely it can be fam will always take your ability to partake, and I truly believe I think said I think a lot of the world right now really wants to be famous. And I felt that with inside myself, right and then you get it and you're like, wow, this isn't all that's cracked up to be right, There's a lot of eyes on you. You're constantly like watching what you're doing, and it's almost like you're paralyzed times to I know I'm a good person. I know my heart's always in the right right spot, but I'm not per I'm human, and I screw up a bit, and I'm twenty six, just on twenty six, and just try and navigate this, I guess from the age of twenty three was really interesting. But I'm grateful, I guess in a sense because everything is always an opportunity rather than a problem. So it's like I have just learned to, I guess, really think about what I'm doing and how I'm showing up to the world, how I'm talking, what I'm saying, how I'm acting, And I'm really grateful, right. I know it did probably stem from a place of fear because I didn't want something bad to happen then my name to be tarnished like it kind of was this year. But I'm also I think about everything I do and I'm really grateful for that. I think I've matured a lot, which is great. I feel like I've, as I said before, I finally turn into a man, which is great at the age of twenty six, and I'm grateful for that. And I think fame has probably propelled me into that as well.

It was I'm pretty sure I'll try and remember off the top of my head, but it was like, I think people want to be Everyone wants to be famous, but recently I wish that I was nameous, nameless. All of you fail to see just how lonely it can be fam will always take your ability to partake, and I truly believe I think said I think a lot of the world right now really wants to be famous. And I felt that with inside myself, right and then you get it and you're like, wow, this isn't all that's cracked up to be right, There's a lot of eyes on you. You're constantly like watching what you're doing, and it's almost like you're paralyzed times to I know I'm a good person. I know my heart's always in the right right spot, but I'm not per I'm human, and I screw up a bit, and I'm twenty six, just on twenty six, and just try and navigate this, I guess from the age of twenty three was really interesting. But I'm grateful, I guess in a sense because everything is always an opportunity rather than a problem. So it's like I have just learned to, I guess, really think about what I'm doing and how I'm showing up to the world, how I'm talking, what I'm saying, how I'm acting, And I'm really grateful, right. I know it did probably stem from a place of fear because I didn't want something bad to happen then my name to be tarnished like it kind of was this year. But I'm also I think about everything I do and I'm really grateful for that. I think I've matured a lot, which is great. I feel like I've, as I said before, I finally turn into a man, which is great at the age of twenty six, and I'm grateful for that. And I think fame has probably propelled me into that as well.

But I think, you know, being vulnerable about what you went through and acknowledging your mistakes and acknowledging that you're human is you know, I'd say it's what we want our role models to be, particularly in sport. Well that's what I want for my young kids and for other people around me. So I think it takes a lot of courage to do that.

But I think, you know, being vulnerable about what you went through and acknowledging your mistakes and acknowledging that you're human is you know, I'd say it's what we want our role models to be, particularly in sport. Well that's what I want for my young kids and for other people around me. So I think it takes a lot of courage to do that.

Yeah, I've always had this and I've always thought this, right, Like, I know what I went through this year. I know the situation at large, like the reality is right, in a relationship, you both bring negative things to it, right, and it's like I've got to own that and I've got to reflect on what did I actually bring to that relationship, like to make that situation happen, and I've got to reflect on that because I don't want that to happen again, right, Yeah, I don't want that to happen again. And I'm really grateful that I have that attitude where I can critique myself and go, Okay, maybe that wasn't right. Maybe I didn't show up well at that time. Maybe I can show up better as a partner, as a son, as a friend you in And I'm really happy that I have that because I think the more that you can realize that we cause problems as well rather than everyone else causes a problem. Yeah, we play a partner too, then I think the world would be a better place.

Yeah, I've always had this and I've always thought this, right, Like, I know what I went through this year. I know the situation at large, like the reality is right, in a relationship, you both bring negative things to it, right, and it's like I've got to own that and I've got to reflect on what did I actually bring to that relationship, like to make that situation happen, and I've got to reflect on that because I don't want that to happen again, right, Yeah, I don't want that to happen again. And I'm really grateful that I have that attitude where I can critique myself and go, Okay, maybe that wasn't right. Maybe I didn't show up well at that time. Maybe I can show up better as a partner, as a son, as a friend you in And I'm really happy that I have that because I think the more that you can realize that we cause problems as well rather than everyone else causes a problem. Yeah, we play a partner too, then I think the world would be a better place.

Yeah, one hundred percent agree, Harry. Thank you for coming on extra.

Yeah, one hundred percent agree, Harry. Thank you for coming on extra.

Healthy ish, thank you for having me on.

Healthy ish, thank you for having me on.

Well. I know who I will be cheering for next year at the Paris Olympics. That is Harry Gar's side. I hope you enjoyed listening to my interview with him as much as I did chatting to him. We'll have to get him back on next year sometime. If you did like this chat, make sure you rate and review it, or you can subscribe to this podcast or share it with a friend. If you want more, don't forget our little sister podcast, healthy Ish. We drop that one Monday to Friday. For more info, head to bodyansoul dot com dot you, follow us on socials or grob our print edition which is out in your local Sunday paper. And of course we would love it if you could rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast. And until tomorrow, it's stay extra healthy ish

Well. I know who I will be cheering for next year at the Paris Olympics. That is Harry Gar's side. I hope you enjoyed listening to my interview with him as much as I did chatting to him. We'll have to get him back on next year sometime. If you did like this chat, make sure you rate and review it, or you can subscribe to this podcast or share it with a friend. If you want more, don't forget our little sister podcast, healthy Ish. We drop that one Monday to Friday. For more info, head to bodyansoul dot com dot you, follow us on socials or grob our print edition which is out in your local Sunday paper. And of course we would love it if you could rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast. And until tomorrow, it's stay extra healthy ish