How do you have faith that can hold all of reality—the beautiful, the terrible, and everything in-between? The TODAY Show’s Savannah Guthrie thinks carefully about this question, especially given that her job is reporting the news every morning. 

In this conversation, Kate and Savannah discuss:

• Savannah’s trick for handling difficult news every day
• How to adjust the dial on fear and hope when there is so much to be afraid of
• Making sense of the wisdom we can learn in the midst of difficult times—without saying ‘everything happens for a reason’ (because we would never do that to you)
• How we hope to be transformed by God’s love

Watch clips from this conversation, read the full transcript, and access discussion questions by clicking here.

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