Kevin Newman and Tessa Lloyd join host Dan Murphy to talk about the lasting effects of a father-child relationship. A veteran news anchor and journalist, Kevin shares how he and his son Alex reinvented their relationship when Alex came out as a gay man. Together they authored a memoir called All Out. Tessa, inspired by her sons-in-law and experience as a registered clinical counsellor, wrote Forty Fathers: Men Talk About Parenting, offering real-life insights from 40 influential Canadian men.