Robert Walker is the Co-founder, Director & President at Gold River Aquafarms a 3,000 MT land-based sustainable Steelhead farm using recirculating aquaculture system (RAS). In this episode Robert and KJ discuss the importance of sustainable and regenerative farming practices. Listen in as Robert shares the challenges and misconceptions surrounding fish farming, the impact of the natural environment on aquaculture, and the concerns about diminishing supplies of wild fish. 

Key Takeaways:
The importance of being aware of where our food comes from
How you can support regenerative and organic farming practices in everyday life
Why aquafarming is a game-changer for environmental sustainability
How technology is improving the way we eat

Quote of the Show (03:00):

"Innovation and disruption is all about accepting what's going on in the world around us and adapting to it." - Robert Walker



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Ways to connect with Robert Walker:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-walker-associates/?originalSubdomain=ca

Company Website: https://gr-aquafarms.com/



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Robert Walker is the Co-founder, Director &amp; President at Gold River Aquafarms a 3,000 MT land-based sustainable Steelhead farm using recirculating aquaculture system (RAS). In this episode Robert and KJ discuss the importance of sustainable and regenerative farming practices. Listen in as Robert shares the challenges and misconceptions surrounding fish farming, the impact of the natural environment on aquaculture, and the concerns about diminishing supplies of wild fish. 
 Key Takeaways:
<ul>
<li>The importance of being aware of where our food comes from</li>
<li>How you can support regenerative and organic farming practices in everyday life</li>
<li>Why aquafarming is a game-changer for environmental sustainability</li>
<li>How technology is improving the way we eat</li>
</ul>
Quote of the Show (03:00):
"Innovation and disruption is all about accepting what's going on in the world around us and adapting to it." - Robert Walker
 
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Ways to connect with Robert Walker:
LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-walker-associates/?originalSubdomain=ca">https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-walker-associates/?originalSubdomain=ca</a> 
Company Website: <a href="https://gr-aquafarms.com/">https://gr-aquafarms.com/</a> 
  
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When did you say ”THAT’S IT! I’VE HAD IT!”? Time to Disrupt and Interrupt with host Karla Jo. Every week KJ interviews professionals who are disrupting their industries and altering economic networks that have been antiquated with bull-headed predecessors holding up the progress.

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Disrupting the Sustainability of Aquafarming: Robert Walker's Bold Approach

In this episode of Disruption/Interruption, host KJ sits down with David Trainer, CEO of New Constructs, a financial technology firm using machine learning and natural language processing to expose the accounting distortions buried in corporate filings. David pulls back the curtain on decades of Wall Street corruption — from two sets of earnings numbers (one for retail, one for institutions) to the legal practice of front-running client order flow. He explains how he built a robo-analyst to do what human analysts won't: read every footnote of every filing to reveal the truth about corporate profitability. David also shares how Google Cloud chose New Constructs to build the first-ever AI investing agent, and why he believes clean, transparent data is the best defense against both Wall Street manipulation and future AI bad actors.

Four Key Takeaways:
 The system was designed to serve Wall Street, not investors (4:11) 
David witnessed firsthand at Credit Suisse how analysts maintained two sets of numbers — artificially low estimates for retail investors to manufacture "beats," and real numbers shared only with institutional clients. Wall Street research analysts don't generate revenue for their firms; they exist to facilitate investment banking relationships, meaning they're incentivized to stay bullish regardless of reality.
 What's unethical isn't always unlawful (8:37) 
Regulation Fair Disclosure — the law requiring companies to disclose material information to all investors simultaneously — wasn't enacted until the year 2000, after the tech bubble burst. Before that, selective tipping was perfectly legal. And today, payment for order flow (selling your trade data to firms like Citadel before your order is filled) remains legal — a structural advantage that benefits Wall Street at retail investors' expense.
 96% of Wall Street analyst ratings are "buy" or "hold" (11:28) 
Only about 4% of stocks covered by Wall Street analysts receive a sell rating. Trainer uses this stat to illustrate a core conflict of interest: analysts are paid by bankers to say good things about companies. Expecting honest sell-side research is like expecting a car salesman to talk down their own inventory.
 New Constructs + Google Cloud built the first AI agent for investing (22:59) 
Google Cloud selected New Constructs — because of their clean, auditable data — to build Finsights, an AI chatbot that answers sophisticated investing questions: which companies are overstating earnings, which stocks are most likely to miss next quarter, which have the most off-balance-sheet debt. Every data point can be traced back to the original corporate filings. Their Core Earnings Leaders Index outperformed the S&P 500 by 900 basis points in 2025.

 

Quote of the Show (12:24):
"Expecting Wall Street to talk bad about a stock is like expecting a car salesman to talk bad about their cars." — David Trainer

 

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Ways to connect withDavid Trainer:
LinkedIn:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtrainer
Company Website: https://newconstructs.com

 

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In this episode of Disruption/Interruption, host KJ sits down with David Trainer, CEO of New Constructs, a financial technology firm using machine learning and natural language processing to expose the accounting distortions buried in corporate filings. David pulls back the curtain on decades of Wall Street corruption &mdash; from two sets of earnings numbers (one for retail, one for institutions) to the legal practice of front-running client order flow. He explains how he built a robo-analyst to do what human analysts won't: read every footnote of every filing to reveal the truth about corporate profitability. David also shares how Google Cloud chose New Constructs to build the first-ever AI investing agent, and why he believes clean, transparent data is the best defense against both Wall Street manipulation and future AI bad actors.
Four Key Takeaways:
<ol>
<li> The system was designed to serve Wall Street, not investors (4:11) David witnessed firsthand at Credit Suisse how analysts maintained two sets of numbers &mdash; artificially low estimates for retail investors to manufacture "beats," and real numbers shared only with institutional clients. Wall Street research analysts don't generate revenue for their firms; they exist to facilitate investment banking relationships, meaning they're incentivized to stay bullish regardless of reality.</li>
<li> What's unethical isn't always unlawful (8:37) Regulation Fair Disclosure &mdash; the law requiring companies to disclose material information to all investors simultaneously &mdash; wasn't enacted until the year 2000, after the tech bubble burst. Before that, selective tipping was perfectly legal. And today, payment for order flow (selling your trade data to firms like Citadel before your order is filled) remains legal &mdash; a structural advantage that benefits Wall Street at retail investors' expense.</li>
<li> 96% of Wall Street analyst ratings are "buy" or "hold" (11:28) Only about 4% of stocks covered by Wall Street analysts receive a sell rating. Trainer uses this stat to illustrate a core conflict of interest: analysts are paid by bankers to say good things about companies. Expecting honest sell-side research is like expecting a car salesman to talk down their own inventory.</li>
<li> New Constructs + Google Cloud built the first AI agent for investing (22:59) Google Cloud selected New Constructs &mdash; because of their clean, auditable data &mdash; to build Finsights, an AI chatbot that answers sophisticated investing questions: which companies are overstating earnings, which stocks are most likely to miss next quarter, which have the most off-balance-sheet debt. Every data point can be traced back to the original corporate filings. Their Core Earnings Leaders Index outperformed the S&amp;P 500 by 900 basis points in 2025.</li>
</ol>
&nbsp;
Quote of the Show (12:24): "Expecting Wall Street to talk bad about a stock is like expecting a car salesman to talk bad about their cars." &mdash; David Trainer
&nbsp;
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&nbsp;
Ways to connect with David Trainer: LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtrainer">http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidtrainer</a> Company Website:&nbsp;<a href="https://newconstructs.com/">https://newconstructs.com</a>
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Disrupting the Wall Street Game: AI vs. the Rigged System, with David Trainer

Immersive experience designer and strategist Adipat Virdi joins host KJ to challenge the tech-first mindset that's dominated industries from entertainment to healthcare. Drawing on his work with Meta, the BBC, NASA, and Charlotte Tilbury, Adipat introduces his Empathy Engine Framework, a set of principles designed to close the gap between brands and audiences by putting human connection, meaning, and agency at the center of every experience. From redesigning how the BBC covered the Syrian refugee crisis to transforming how Nike sells sneakers, he makes a compelling case that without the "why," all the fancy technology is just expensive noise. 

Four Key Takeaways:
 [3:52] Technology is a veneer, not a foundation - Industries keep layering new tech onto old frameworks without asking why. As Adipat puts it: "Just because we can doesn't mean we should." Real innovation starts with understanding the human condition you're trying to shape or evolve.
 [8:50] The shift from buying to belonging - New generations don't want to be passive consumers. They want to be co-creators and collaborators. Brands that recognize this shift and build participatory experiences will win; those that don't will be ignored.
 [17:57]The Empathy Engine Framework in action - Adipat's framework rests on three core principles: audience protagonism (placing people inside the experience with moral complexity), ethical friction (making the story personally matter), and embodiment (creating choices that force meaningful self-reflection). Applied to a BBC project on Syrian refugees, the right thematic question drove a massive increase in engagement.
 [36:35] The Five Whys unlock the gold - Rooted in engineering but applicable everywhere, the Five Whys exercise gets to the root of any disconnect. Adipat's insight: it's not just the final answer that matters it’s "the discussion that comes out while they are realizing what the five why responses are, that's where the gold is."

 

Quote of the Show (8:50):
"It's now less about buying and more about belonging." — Adipat Virdi

 

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Ways to connect withAdipat Virdi:
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/adipatvirdi
Company Website: adipatvirdi.com
Book Adipat: https://www.a-speakers.com/speakers/adipat-virdi

 

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Immersive experience designer and strategist Adipat Virdi joins host KJ to challenge the tech-first mindset that's dominated industries from entertainment to healthcare. Drawing on his work with Meta, the BBC, NASA, and Charlotte Tilbury, Adipat introduces his Empathy Engine Framework, a set of principles designed to close the gap between brands and audiences by putting human connection, meaning, and agency at the center of every experience. From redesigning how the BBC covered the Syrian refugee crisis to transforming how Nike sells sneakers, he makes a compelling case that without the "why," all the fancy technology is just expensive noise.&nbsp;
Four Key Takeaways:
<ol>
<li> [3:52] Technology is a veneer, not a foundation - Industries keep layering new tech onto old frameworks without asking why. As Adipat puts it: "Just because we can doesn't mean we should." Real innovation starts with understanding the human condition you're trying to shape or evolve.</li>
<li> [8:50] The shift from buying to belonging - New generations don't want to be passive consumers. They want to be co-creators and collaborators. Brands that recognize this shift and build participatory experiences will win; those that don't will be ignored.</li>
<li> [17:57]The Empathy Engine Framework in action - Adipat's framework rests on three core principles: audience protagonism (placing people inside the experience with moral complexity), ethical friction (making the story personally matter), and embodiment (creating choices that force meaningful self-reflection). Applied to a BBC project on Syrian refugees, the right thematic question drove a massive increase in engagement.</li>
<li> [36:35] The Five Whys unlock the gold - Rooted in engineering but applicable everywhere, the Five Whys exercise gets to the root of any disconnect. Adipat's insight: it's not just the final answer that matters it&rsquo;s "the discussion that comes out while they are realizing what the five why responses are, that's where the gold is."</li>
</ol>
&nbsp;
Quote of the Show (8:50): "It's now less about buying and more about belonging." &mdash; Adipat Virdi
&nbsp;
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&nbsp;
Ways to connect with Adipat Virdi: LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/adipatvirdi/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/adipatvirdi</a> Company Website:&nbsp;<a href="http://adipatvirdi.com/">adipatvirdi.com</a> Book Adipat: <a href="https://www.a-speakers.com/speakers/adipat-virdi">https://www.a-speakers.com/speakers/adipat-virdi</a>
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Disrupting the Hi-tech Narrative: Why Data Without Empathy is Just High-Tech Noise with Adipat Virdi

In this episode of Disruption/Interruption, host KJ sits down with Ome Ogbru, PharmD, CEO and founder of AINGENS, to tackle a decades-old problem hiding in plain sight: life sciences runs on groundbreaking science, but is buried in broken processes. After 20+ years as a clinician, professor, and pharmaceutical executive, Ome reached a breaking point, and instead of finding a new job, he built a new company. He shares how generative AI, used responsibly and strategically, can finally give researchers their time back, cut through misinformation, and help the right information reach the right people faster.

Four Key Takeaways:
The scientific content workflow is fundamentally broken [4:15] -- Research teams are so resource-strapped that PhDs spend their time managing IT systems instead of doing science. Procuring a software solution could take one to two years and often didn't even solve the right problem.
Generative AI isn't the magic wand, it's how you use it [20:01] -- When Ome first tested ChatGPT on biotech content and got poor results, he had a revelation: the tool wasn't the problem. The problem was not knowing how to use it. Pairing AI with deep domain expertise and proper workflows is where the real power lies.
The human expert must remain in the driver's seat [32:30] -- AINGENS' platform (MACG) is built so the professional is in control. The AI handles the time-consuming, mundane tasks like literature search, drafting, and formatting, while the expert applies regulatory knowledge, judgment, and guardrails.
Misinformation in life sciences is a public health problem [35:49] -- Misinformation travels faster than accurate data. Ome's vision is for generative AI to help industry proactively get accurate, personalized scientific information to the people who need it, patients, clinicians, and researchers alike, before the noise wins.

Quote of the Show (35:41):
"Misinformation flies faster than correct information." -- Ome Ogbru

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Ways to connect withOme Ogbru:
LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/ome-ogbru-pharmd/
Company Website: http://www.aingens.com



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Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/6yGSwcSp8J354awJkCmJlD

In this episode of Disruption/Interruption, host KJ sits down with Ome Ogbru, PharmD, CEO and founder of AINGENS, to tackle a decades-old problem hiding in plain sight: life sciences runs on groundbreaking science, but is buried in broken processes. After 20+ years as a clinician, professor, and pharmaceutical executive, Ome reached a breaking point, and instead of finding a new job, he built a new company. He shares how generative AI, used responsibly and strategically, can finally give researchers their time back, cut through misinformation, and help the right information reach the right people faster.
Four Key Takeaways:
<ol>
<li>The scientific content workflow is fundamentally broken [4:15] -- Research teams are so resource-strapped that PhDs spend their time managing IT systems instead of doing science. Procuring a software solution could take one to two years and often didn't even solve the right problem.</li>
<li>Generative AI isn't the magic wand, it's how you use it [20:01] -- When Ome first tested ChatGPT on biotech content and got poor results, he had a revelation: the tool wasn't the problem. The problem was not knowing how to use it. Pairing AI with deep domain expertise and proper workflows is where the real power lies.</li>
<li>The human expert must remain in the driver's seat [32:30] -- AINGENS' platform (MACG) is built so the professional is in control. The AI handles the time-consuming, mundane tasks like literature search, drafting, and formatting, while the expert applies regulatory knowledge, judgment, and guardrails.</li>
<li>Misinformation in life sciences is a public health problem [35:49] -- Misinformation travels faster than accurate data. Ome's vision is for generative AI to help industry proactively get accurate, personalized scientific information to the people who need it, patients, clinicians, and researchers alike, before the noise wins.</li>
</ol>
Quote of the Show (35:41): "Misinformation flies faster than correct information." -- Ome Ogbru
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Ways to connect with Ome Ogbru: LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ome-ogbru-pharmd/">https://www.linkedin.com/in/ome-ogbru-pharmd/</a> Company Website: <a href="http://www.aingens.com/">http://www.aingens.com</a> 
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