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The path wasn't marked by the stars from the Southern Hemisphere and African sky? Who is that? I have? No, I don't want to know. What do you mean? Uh? You don't know Paul Simon like the grace Land album. Yeah, of course, I just don't know your version of it. That's it's basically I sound identical to Paul Simon, So you should should you should know now? That would if Paul Simon got into his guitar case and which he could probably fit into, uh and started singing it sounds a lot like that. Ohoom bo boom boom. Whoa flat? No it wasn't flat. Yeah, diamonds on the soles of her shoes. No, no, no, no, the your wife is flat? Oh? Is that so? Yeah? I beg to differ. I begged to dicker. Cut that out, Margo. Uh, I think your wife legitimately has a crush on me. What do you think. I think she's fascinated by you. I think she's entertained by you as I am. I mean, I think I have my own odd man crush on you, only because you entertained me. I'm I'm just I'm in awe every time I see you from a distance, and I'm totally amazed. When I see you in person and I watch you interact and go about, you know, being in the world, it's it's a it is fascinating. And that's what I can come up with, is fascinating. That's interesting. What you what? I guess the question is what makes it fascinating just to see me? Sort of like the way you interact with other people, the way you. The way you read It surprises me that you are the reader that you are, um, the way you understand investments and economics much more so than I do. And yet you're you're just kind of just kind of like a fool. Yeah, it's just kind of like a st. Bernard flopping around through life. Instead of a jug of whatever those things carry around in the Alps, you've got like a big bag of weed or on. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I'm both happy and frustrated about that part of my personality. You know, I like the sort of free spirited thing, but I also wish I worked harder to make it all happen. But you know, yeah, it comes with the price. Because everybody that I see in Cabo or friends of ours that are mutual friends of ours are always like, oh my god, how's Oliver. Such a great guy. I love being around Oliver. Everybody loves Oliver. Oliver is like the fun party time dude. But it also you know, you could stand a setting alarm or two. Yeah, it takes its toll. It's funny. I've been I gotta stop drinking so much drinking? How many times have you said that on this podcast alone? To be I know and I don't know, but yeah, um, I just are you gonna get your hair cut? Yeah? I have to. I'm starting work June. I go to Albuquerque on the twenty and then they chopped my salad and uh, they cut it. They'll cut it. Yeah, I mean I'm not gonna Okay, do they make your beard just as scruffy as it was in season one? Yeah? We have a guard on on a shaver thing that we know is the guard for my beard. So this is interesting. This is like a tour universal. So so I go into the makeup trailer. I'll give you a little onside ball baseball here, Teddy ball game. Um, what's his name again? Coach ball game? Coach ball game? Yeah, CB, he listens to this, doesn't he? Hell yeah he does. Shout out the ball game. Shout out the ball game. Um yeah. So I get there and shave on a number one with this thing called a peanut, and I go up. So it's like I want boom. We know, we know what's up. Then I do hair and makeup. Once the hair is cut, don't have to cut that for like maybe two weeks maybe yeah, maybe two weeks. And then my beard doesn't get reshaved until every we do it every other day, so this is this is fast. So I know people are are you scared that after your injections of whatever substance that was, that you're gonna not be able to match up with last year? I know we talked about this last week, but I feel like we're getting down into the weeds. So do they know you gotta some sort of laser facial thing? But yeah, it doesn't matter. They they are, they are allowed to know. There's gonna be no difference. No one's gonna be watching this show and be like, wow, Oliver is like less wrinkled, you know, or his complexion is a little smoother than it was last season. Now it's just purely for me. It's my own vanity. You know. Do you get recognized because of this show? Has anybody stopped you anywhere in life and said, oh my god, I love you and the cleaning? Yeah, yeah, for sure a lot. That's good. No, that's good. I mean I don't get stopped all the time. I mean you get stopped more than I do. But but yeah, people have said that they really dig the cleaning Lady, which is great. Those are the ones that get me excited. It's the cleaning lady and then the podcast, you know, that's that's what sort of gives me a bone bone. Well, we were just on our trip to NAPA and your name came up. Who brought it up? And I gotta be honest, what Natalie bring me up? Um? I don't know. I might have been talking about your podcast with Aaron consciously coupled, unconsciously coupled. What's it? What is it? Unconsciously coupled? Yes, yeah, you gotta change that. Uh, but we it came up. I know how it came up. We were at dinner and I'm on my phone, you know, much to my wife's chagrin, and I'm going through Instagram and I see some post that you put up. Now, it was your anniversary, so i'll give you that. But then it's like the same picture of you two when you're you know, twenty years ago or whenever that was taken, or you look like you're walking down to the Blue Lagoon, and and now I'm like, if this fucking guy could one time promote our podcast, I'd fall out of this booth. And Natalie's like, yeah, but that's not really what he's doing. He doesn't want his social media. He doesn't want his Instagram to be promotional strictly. It's got to be more, uh like avant garde. It's him singing, making coffee, taking a dump, whatever the hell he's doing. He wants to be funny. He wants to be seen as the funny guy, not as somebody who's using social media just to promote you. I'm like, yeah, okay, good. But if he can he bring anything other than himself to the dance, he's related to half of Hollywood. We haven't heard from Wyatt Russell, we haven't heard from Curt except when Eddie Vetter was on We We did think Kate. We haven't heard from your mom. We haven't heard from any of these people. And I'm begging, borrowing, and stealing to get other people on our podcast, and you're just sitting there. I'm like, Okay, you could make up for some of that by one post to his million fucking followers that he did a stupid dance for just to promote our podcast. That makes nothing. Meanwhile, he has this woman who I don't know and don't like at all, selling stuff for consciously unconsciously coupled, and and she doesn't want to work on art. Okay, great, got it, But make a post because it takes nothing other than you just sliding something over and hitting send beautiful. Uh fair, all fair? Not has a good point. Um, here's there's a few issues. Um. The issues are sometimes days of promotion, meaning like I have too many things and I can't promote to podcasts on the same day, you know, so sometimes I have to slide into stories, put one in a story, and then maybe one in the thing, and then I get lazy and and forget and and don't do anything you know, um right, which goes back to the first part of our converse exactly, everybody's fun time. Ali has got to like stiffing up every once in a while and make a post because it would benefit him somehow in the long run. And and to be straight up like I I am discouraged about the sort of monetary aspect of our podcast, meaning I love being with you and talking with you, and every time it feels like, oh, we gotta make a time to do it each week, and we make jokes like how about never o'clock? You know what I mean? An every joke which I I was, I I looked for on my on my watch, and I found let's do it next week, let's record at never o'clock. But I will say this, every time you pop up on screen and it's Josh and Margot, I get excited and I'm excited to do it, you know what I mean. And I have fun talking to you, and it's it's very easy, and I do love it, you know. So if our podcast, and again I'm sure listeners are tired of hearing about us whine that. But but but if it was more uh lucrative, sure you would, you would feel more compellsion to without put something up. Not even if it was more lucrative. Meaning we've been doing this for a million years. I feel like put posting something on Daddy issues isn't moving any kind of needle. The whole idea of this is to get people to listen. And I've been posting prior and and it's like, well, we're not making any money, and I still don't understand. I'm glad that in our zoom right now, Margot's uh section of it is just her name, because I'm sure there's one single solitary tear trickling down her cheeks. For sure, you know and that it is not. Margot is the great, you know, she's the producer and she makes it all. She is the engine, and this is the little engine that can't. They're basically driving a pacer, and she's the engine of our pacer right just and she's she's just put up the emoji of one tier coming down the cheek. This if if our podcast we're a nursery school book, it would be the little engine that probably can't. So it would be chug chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chug, chuck, chuck back down backward and then smashing into something and going into a million pieces. That is our podcast. And we should rename our podcast the little Engine that can't I like it, or the little engine that I like that. We should just name our podcast. Hey, welcome to the latest edition of That's like Debbie down her God our podcast. The title is just a sound. It's just like a foghorn. Yeah. I don't know how we can make that happen. But hey, look but but but just to just to just to finish this and me being honest about it, it is discouraging in a sense, you know, and I know it is for you to um that we've should be bringing something in and it feels like I don't know and I'm not trying to knock anybody here, but like I don't know what's happening, who's doing We have no advertising, blah blah blah. It's fine and I love talking to you. And again, we're pro bono, you know what I mean. It's that's that's what we should name our podcast is pro Bono. That's right. Actually that was the bono that was rarely on the Sunny and Share Show, but there was. He has a he had a brother named pro Yeah he did. Uh yeah, that should be our podcast, pro Bono with Ali and Joe. That's good. Um um. Anyway, anyway, Margot is doing all she can. Uh. Josh isn't doing ship. No, Josh doesn't do anything. I mean he no. He takes all the bad stuff out of the podcast. I call him the middle of the night. He's there for us. He's he's putting these things in. The biggest thing Josh ever did was the episod o we did with all of the sound effects. That's when Josh stretched his legs he did Basically, Josh just has his birds cutting our show at this point right. That's what this is called parrot ship with Joe and Oliver. Acidic parrot shit pack it apart, it apart, there, it is, there it is. Don't go anywhere. We'll be back after this short break with more daddy issues. So before we hopped on here, you know you gave me an extra ten minutes because your neck hurts. Can I call the reporter back that was calling me from the St. Louis Post Dispatch about the twentieth anniversary of my dad's death, which is fastly a pro coaching uh, And I, for the life of me, I'm not exactly sure what day in the month of June it was. I think it's the eighteen um but I've never been one to celebrate and or remember people's death date. I don't understand that it. Did you even aware of that? No? No, I don't think like that. So I so when he called me, he's like, hey, can you believe it's been twenty years since your dad died? I was like, no, I can't. I mean, in some ways it seems like it was fifty years ago, and in other ways it seems like it was yesterday. Because everybody tells me a story a day around St. Louis at Starbucks about my dad, and I dream about him like five nights a week, so he doesn't feel like he's been gone that long. On one hand, on the other hand, that's a lifetime ago. That was died No. Two. I mean there was My whole life was different to Trudy was my youngest child. She was three, so not even three, about to turn three. So um, yeah, it's hard, and I it's funny. I didn't know you then obviously at all. And what you may not know about what happened when my dad died. So he was in the hospital for seven months in intensive care, went in for lung cancer, but also had diabetes and Parkinson's and all these other things that he had going on, and he got an infection and more than the cancer because they took the cancer out, they lopped off that bit of his lung that was fine, but he got infection, and because he had these other things going on, like diabetes is a bit with infection and parkins and Parkinson's trying to get off a ventilator, he never got out. So he was in there for seven months, and I went there every day for seven months unless I was out of town. It was, you know, ten minutes from my house, so I would go in there and sit, and it was it's hard watching somebody deteriorate for seven months, um and had all these conversations, and we've talked about some of those conversations. But then he passed away. And when he died almost twenty years ago, when this came out, I then switched modes and I called the guy that I talked to today, The reporter from the St. Louis Post dispatched Dan Caesar. I called caml X radio when I got home, and I did an interview with the overnight guy, John Carney, who now works with my sister at another radio station, and I did an interview about my dad's life and and talked about him, and we took calls and all that. And then two days later, I'm am seeing an event at Bush Stadium as he lied or laid in state basically, and people are filing past his casket and you know, we've got speakers, got you know, Costas was in town, and a player to LaRusso was there, and and I'm at Bush Stadium and I'm the m c of my dad's memorial service. And then the next day is his funeral, and I have to give the eulogy. So now I have to do that in a church, and I followed my half sister, Christine, and she gave this great eulogy, and I was sitting there thinking like how am I going to start this? Because I couldn't even write it. I was so burned out by then. I waited till the last minute the night before, and my first line when I got up there after my sister spoke was, you know, it's a bad feeling when you're sitting in a church and you're about to give a eulogy for your dad and you realize the eulogy you're following is way better than the one you're about to deliver. And that's that's hers was so good. I was like, I can't even match that. It was so well thought out and and so the point of all this is he dies. He and I were extremely close. But I never cried. Not one time. I cried. Actually that's not true. I cried one time when I went And maybe we've talked about this before, maybe not. I've done a million podcasts, not just hours, um. But I went to visit my grandma, my mom's mom, who was really close with us. That's the only time I broke down crying, but she was sick, and I think I was more sad about her being sick, thinking I'm about to lose my dad and my grandma. But I never cried. I I still don't, and it it kind of blows Michelle away that she just lost her dad. As we speak, she's going through her dad's old house and trying to find bank account statements and you know, anything he's buried in, you know, whatever he's got in his house. They they're flying blind on that. But she's been an emotional wreck about it. And I never cried one time about my dad dying. It's just odd. That is crazy. I did. I didn't know that you hadn't cried. And I didn't know that you had cried one time with your grandmother or not your grandmother, with whoever, yeah, with my grandma, you know whatever. How twenty years late, twenty years that's like, wow, maybe it's time to try. Yeah, But I mean, how do you do that? You just get this, It's like you know, vix vapor rub stuff and put it in the corners of your eyes, in my eyes, put it in your eyes and then not under my nose, not on my chest. When you were a kid and you were sick, did your mom put boots on your chest so that that smell is so nostalgic to me, it's crazy. And then my mom would tape a washcloth on, which is such an old school move, like bought with safety pins, and so that that that started another fight one time when I when I was rubbing on them wild Wyatt's chest and she's like, now, are you gonna put a washcloth on him? Like, no, you didn't need to put a fucking washcloth on this thing. When I was safety pins that I was always scared We're gonna unhook jabbed me in the because I'm sleeping. I know totally. Yeah, I remember that vix stuff very well. But I didn't do the washcloth. It was just put on my chest and sort of neck area. Yeah yeah, And they made you walk outside and ashpen and walk around when but maybe this is what you do. You just put a little vix vape rubs in the corner of your eyes and then just start the tears and just feel like dad and just say Dad a few times and then boom, you did do it in front of Michelle, so she thinks I'm actually losing it, yeah, or you time it to where she's just hearing you having a private moment, you know, and then she walks in on you and you're just bawling and she comforts you, and then you're like just it's finally all come out, and she's like, oh baby, I'm so sorry, and then slowly kiss her and you know you need you know, it's one of those moments where you just need someone close and and then it gets passionate, except it's all ache right right, right, this it's not real, and then you're just basically duping her into making love with you by crying about your father. Oh so okay, yeah, so then you got coming, yeah, because then then it's like you get you know, she's in your face and I'm so sorry baby, and then and you're like I'm okay, okay, and then you're like just give her a little kiss and you hard, you know what I mean, one of those scenes where just starts to get a little hot and heavy, you know, because you need to real you need to you need something else, you need to release, you know, because you've got all this pain. Yeah, you know. Yeah. I mean I'm even sickened by that, Like I'm picturing my daughter's going, oh listening to this, But even I am sickened by the idea, Like it makes me uncomfortable. What are you picturing it? When I was saying visually, well, I mean you're yeah, you're such a wordsmith. You're so talented with words that I I yes, I was. I was there for a moment and I I hit the eject button. I just didn't want to be there anymore. Do you think you will be emotional when your dad? Does? I do? I do? Um, I don't know, but I do. I do think so. I mean it'll probably be a mix of everything you know of like regret, and you know, there's probably a lot that's going to go into it. But yeah, I think so, I think I will be. If that's the case, then why don't you do something about your relationship now, like actually force some meeting? I know, I don't know. It's a good question. And where is Everyone who's listening to this knows that we've text and you know, it just never gets to the point of seeing each other even though we're so close. Um, And it's probably I'm the one who needs to take control of it all and I just don't, which is sad to say, but yes you do. And it's not like you was in Wisconsin. He lives in malib so he's fifteen minutes away, you know, so come on. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I started a text thread with my uncles, my dad, my cousins, um because I think my dad and his two brothers reconciled. There's a picture of them that was sent to me, and yeah, it is like the Black Crows. They're back. I just saw them actually at the Troubador. They hard to handle. They were they were they were very hard to handle. But you know, I remedied that. So she, Sarah, my cousin, hit me up with this picture. I was like, oh my god, they they they're back together. And so we created a text chain and everyone responded but my dad. But I think that's because he has a phone that is from you know, maybe the late nineties at best, early two thousands. It's like a serious flip phone. It's like a burner phone. Basically, I'm not sure he didn't even get like new phone. No, he got an iPhone once and could not deal with it. Or figured out and like threw it away and went back to the burner phone. So there's a good chance he didn't get these this text thread because he's not a part of new technology. Um, but I do, I I should probably shoot him a text, yeah, or fucking call him. Would it kill you to call him? I do? I call I call him Hill. But if he can't text or doesn't want a text, or is tapping out fifty buttons to say I miss you, son, let's get together, it's wouldn't be easier for him to just say it. Yes, yeah, I've tried to call him, you know, and it just rings through. But no, it's true the fact that he's he takes them six hours to get the text roim he's got like you know, Number one is ABC, so it'skank kankingkankankankingkankankank kanking, you know. And then the well Margot has just volunteered to be the middle person to get this going just for the sake of our ore pro bono podcast. I know, well, I mean, honestly, he would be a guest. He would he would do it in a heartbeat. I just have to corner him, and you know, I'd have to get the tech to him. I'd probably be in the room with him with with another mic, you know, because there's no world where he's going to figure it out, even though he does have his own studio and knows how to you know, work a mixing board. Well, since this is called daddy issues, I think our last ditch effort on this thing is to have you do that and we interview your dad about his faults and his reasons, and then it becomes entertainment. Tonight in New York Post It's everywhere, Oliver Hudson grills his father on his own podcast about why he left the family. Yeah, that's it. If anything's ever gonna work to get people to listen to this thing, yeah, that's it. I agree. I agree. And going back to the thing that we the issue is is that we could even have a lot of people listening to us. I am discouraged that we'd even find money anywhere. The truth is, our numbers, the people who listen to us, we have decent downloads, you know, and we should be making some money. That's just the way it is. Again, with with unconsciously Coupled, we have zero. We wouldn't have any downloads and we were making money. We need an advocate. We need someone who is going to be selling our ads and pushing for us and giving us the opportunity to convert on some of these brands. Which podcast will last longer? As we sit here on the fifteenth of June, this will never sister's birthday. My sister's birthday today. Frightening when your younger sister turns fifty. Um, but yeah, so I'm saying which one goes further on the calendar, this one or unconsciously coupled? Well, I feel like you and I are going to be in our eighties doing this just because you know what I mean. I think this is gonna last forever, forever and ever and ever. But I don't want it to I don't either. I mean, it's weird, it's it's I love it. I love talking to you. But at the same time, there has to be some some ship has to go down, you know what I mean, Like, we gotta figure this out, you know, we got to talk to our peeps and be like, look, you guys say it's crazy. You know. If you're enjoying this episode of Daddy Issues, don't keep it to yourself. Please share the love and tell a friend about daddy issues and go subscribe on the I Heart radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Stay tuned. You don't want to miss what's coming up right after the break. So is this is this our You know, you and I haven't talked about but prior to getting on this podcast today, except we did text yesterday when you were at your son's eighth grade graduation. Yeah, that was that was interesting. You know that you were in a gigantic sombrero and he gave me a picture of the entire stage and I had to pick out your son. I didn't see that part of the picture initially where Wilder was there. So I found him easily. I mean, it's big, old, floppy head of hair. It's easy to spot. It's funny because obviously he knows me so well. I'm as fun other and he knows that I funk with them incessantly, and uh he he. His line gets up to be called, and it's you know, they're doing all the names alphabetically, and he's about three third from being called, and he looks over at me and he just starts shaking his head like this. He's like don't do it because I did have something planned, you know, to just because I have no shame, and everyone's like golf clapping, you know, for the kids, and I was gonna just go nuts, and he knew and should Yeah, And he looks over at me. He shakes his head like, don't do it, because you know you take that as a challenge. I did not. I respected him because I'm trying to. I'm trying to sort of earn his trust, you know, I think a lot. I get nervous that sometimes I mess with him so much and embarrass him, and you know that that he doesn't tell me things that yeah, right, And and I gave him a little bit. I was like I love you or whatever, but I was going to do much more than that. You know what was at at your at your most grandiose planning mentally? Yeah what what what would you have? What? What's the biggest thing you thought about? Maybe? Well, I was gonna say, Wilder, I was like, you know, I love you and you know something and and and then um, I was just gonna scream and I'm proud of you, like you barely made it or something like that. Can I just say good editing yourself, good self edit. I know, I know, I know, um, But when he dropped the body in your family saw this day coming, right, But I I when I drop him off, he walks and then crosses a crosswalk like in front of me usually, and I just let them both have it. And his friends whenever I see his friends do I let them all have it. But my go to is is like Diaper'm like Wilder, like, remember I put your diaper in your backpack and he's not looking at me like Wilder, look at me. I just acknowledge it. You know you're wearing ears now, but if at lunch you need a new one, the diaper is in your backpack and the crossing guards are they laughing their asses off every time? That's all. I used to do that to my sister because I have three years older than her, So I drive her to school at a place where you know, she got picked on, and she was, you know, never all that confident. And when we would go around the circle around the flag, I would Julie back Platte and Julie Buckets in the Big Monday folks, Big Monday. Julie's every day it's amazing, and she just I want to kill me. Oh yeah. I mean I'm tight with a couple of Wilder's friends, like really tight. So when I see Dylan like walking and you know, I'll do the same thing with him. You got friends Dylan and Wilder. Yeah, Dylan Wilder ben Um Balt is one of his boys. Bald Yeah, like Baldazzar but Balt Alibi Um. But it's fun, man. I love screwing with the kids like that. He's like, brings me such joy. It just makes me. He's gonna be in therapy for decades because of this, yeah, Or or he's gonna respect it and love it and do it himself, you know what I mean. Yeah, he will, he will for sure. And that's You're right about filtering my you know, filtering myself there and not saying that because it would have been that would have been bad. Yeah, at the graduation being like you barely made it. And yeah, So I'm I'm happy. I'm happy it all went down the way it did. So I started to say before we got off on this cul de sac, that is this our way of saying, you know, if ship doesn't change, we may be nearing the ends. As we just have to the thing is we do a podcast coming out of your ass. Every time we turn around you it's really too meaning. I've got unconsciously coupled and I've got this the one with Kate Sibling Revelry is we're doing it in seasons now. So we we did eight, we did ten shows and that law that launched, and now we're accumulating more. Um. Actually, we talked to this amazing woman yesterday and won't get into the whole thing, but she's nineties seven years old. Her name is Edith Eager and she he's a Holocaust survivor from Auschwitz and she's one the most incredible people I've ever talked to and met, and her spirit and her stories and what she went through and her parents, you know, being killed the first day they were there, and it's just it was so gnarly. Um. Anyway, my point is is that I don't that's not there. Unconsciously coupled is, but it's easy. It doesn't take a lot of time. You know, we do it in bed. You know, we're in bed at night and just like light one up and go to work. I can just hear I, hey babe, and you're getting I know you're you're a little verbal crutches the whole time. It's gonna be like I mean, you know what I mean, And she's gonna do hers and then and sound why don't you listen to it? I know, fucking way, well I listened to that. What do you mean, I watch you on TV? Never listen Yeah, okay, I watch you on TV. I've never listened to your sister's podcast with you, and I sure as how I'm not gonna listen to you and Aaron going on and on and on. Well, you know it's uh, you know, it's you know, it's so sad for you. Then is you know you're gonna hate it when you and Michelle are on our podcast because we've talked about you guys being our first actual guests. So that's fine, that's a different category. I'm happy to come on and and waste more time in front of this computer for another podcast. I did another. I did somebody else's podcast today doing Brian baumb Gardner's podcast Friday. Jesus tell him to give him give you some of that cameo money. Is he killing it on cameo? Oh? Dude, he makes like three million dollars a year by being the guy from the office. Yes, and just his life is cameo. You should flip flip the pizza on him and and and ask him about that. It's crazy. I mean, he makes so much money. It's stupid. No, but but you're you're a generous man like you, you can't say no, which is probably an issue like we could die into with the psychologist, and it is I really figure out why you are like guilt guilt? Where does that guilt come from? From being my dad's kid, getting into the same business and feeling like all these doors were flung open for me? And now if somebody needs my help, of course I'm there too. I'm there to help. So you need me as a guest, Yes, let me cram it into my life and be bitter about it and be mad. I'll give you my best when I'm sitting here, but I'm piste off when I wake up in the morning, and I'm pissed off right before I do it, and I'm piste off when I hang up. But while I'm on, I'm gonna give you everything I got. Unlike one guest you and I have had, who was want somebody that I was really excited. It was an absolute F plus. Yeah, that was so weird. That's that was such a disappointment. I know, I know, well do we start? Do we do we go back to some guests? I mean, the Poppins were fun and we can't keep those going. And honestly, to touch on your rant at the beginning of this podcast, you know, which was really good and beautifully worded, I will say that you are way more popular and have way more relationships than I do. Yes, I have my family. Kurt will never do it? Why well not won't do it? You know what I mean? Those two are out there. They're just private people and it's not their thing. My mom I can get to come on easy. She will come on and do something. Kate, did you know who else do I have? I don't know anybody. You know everybody because you do barter you you do things for people and then they owe you in exchange and vice verst. I've helped Martin Short with an issue, right, but I feel bad about asking Martin Short to come on, yeah, as you should, like, okay, whatever. I feel like he's busy and he's gonna feel compelled to do it because I did something for him, and I want to know what, it doesn't work. You helped Martin short with that. We don't have to talk about it, but that just sounds interesting, Marty calls. He was like, Joe Off, got an issue that need your help with. Ye, it's exactly what happened. Huh Yeah, and I and it. It went on over a period of a couple of years. Oh wow, Oh cool. I like that. I'm Marty is the best guy in the world. I mean anything that guy does, anything he does on TV, movie whatever. Yeah, he's been friends with our family for a long, long long time. It's my mother's like, Kurt's best best friend, and Wyatt and Ali his kid, are best friends. And so he's like a really uncle Marty. We called Uncle Marty. He's just one of the great human beings. Just I got to sit with him at at that thing that I did for your mom when I am seed that that crazy house and Beverly Hills was a Burkle's house. Yeah you were there, Kate. Yeah we were friends, but not like we are now. Isn't that funny? I know? Yeah, had I if I could go back in time, I would center everything I said that night around you and how much a mind up program would have helped a troubled student like Oliver hu. That would have been a good bit, That would have been funny, right. I want you all to look at table four. There's a man there who when he was a child needed the Mind Up program more than anybody else. And the history of time needed a mind a little time out to relax and gather his thoughts and maybe do a little yoga and think about things before they go into calculus. And I'm talking about the one and only Oliver Hudson right there. And sure Goldie's a little disappointed and embarrassed of him, but he's there and he could have used this kind of help. So you're doing good things people, and then you bring me up on stage. Why don't you come up here and have and tell him how you and I just like man and just just an idiot. Oh yeah, yeah, no, I know that was That was a fun night. That was a fun night. Again, that's you just being a good man. Don't go anywhere. We'll be back after this short break with more daddy issues. Rashida Jones. You know her, she's your quote unquote BFF. Get her on here. Yeah, yeah, she won't. You won't you'll get her on unconsciously coupled and or sibling revelry way before you'll get her on Daddy Issues. Her dad is Quincy Jones, for God's sake, I mean, what a what a lay up? Yeah? I think I've asked her, you know, I definitely asked her for for sibling revelry a while while back when we started, and she said no nicely, you know what I mean? Um, yeah, but maybe you know maybe, okay, I mean I'm a fan of hers. She was I love you man with Rudd. She was phenomenal. She's great, she's a good human. Okay, we could we could work on that, you know. Um, I don't know Phil Nicholson, Yeah, yeah, not much going on with him. Hey Phil, I'll go through Meldman. Can you get me Phil for the Daddy Issues podcast. Let's see, we'll record Friday during the US Open. Yeah. Four. He shoves off to another live tour event. So I think the live I think it's a three year deal. Oh yeah, I I forgot to ask people about that. I heard it's a three year deal. So within three years, these people like Dustin Johnson's making five million dollars for three years. Yeah, so, um, Bryson, I played golf with a kid, yeah, two day days ago, who he says is really really good friends with De Shambo, like their homies. I guess. And um he said that it's a three year deal and then Bryson got seventy five million like up front boom, right. Then that's what I heard. And then the rest is all guarants, all guaranteed money. It's just gonna be parceled out. But the initial hit was seventy five million. I don't know. I've been thinking more and more about it since we talked about it last week. I I just I unless I was struggling, and and there are plenty of professional tour players that are struggling to make to make cuts, to make the top whatever it is that gets their card automatically top one, whatever it is, and you're dead in the water. I mean, I get it for those guys, but for the DJs of the world and whatever. I know it's a massive check, but I I just with what it comes. With my answers, no, yeah, but I guess someone like DJ really doesn't care about what it comes. How can you not care because don't care about your legacy? You don't care about I mean, I don't, all right, you know what I mean? He doesn't, you don't, and and it's just so much to me. It makes more sense. And I guess you're you can't have it both ways. But it makes more sense for Pat Perez, who's our mutual friend, to do it because he's forty six years old and he's you know, hanging on, which he would be the first to say that. And now you've got a guaranteed chunk of money, the likes of which he's not going to make. I understand that. That's what I love about Pat. Like when I watched some of the Live Tour and they had Pat On like make his announcement and it was a zoom call from his home or whatever. And that's why I love Pat so much. It's like he was just straight up. He's like, look like, it's money. I need the money. I got my family. You know it's gonna it's gonna afford me freedom to be with them. You know, I'm set now. He's like, I'm set, I'm good, you know, blah blah blah. He's just very open and up front rather than like we're gonna go grow the game of golf, you know, through a three round shotguns start. I'm like, that's not golf with no. I don't like that end of it at all. I don't like I mean the whole there's no cut. The guy who finished in last place made a hundred and twenty grand dead last. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean it's cool to watch the guy like like Henny you know do do Plessy, you know, who has seven hundred thousand dollars in career earnings, all of a sudden finished second and then one part of his team and won three point six million bucks or whatever it was. I mean, I it's just so silly. I mean, I'm I'm I'm happy for him. Um, it's life changing, you know what I mean. Um, but it's not real golf. And that's what John rom was even saying today at a press conference for the US Open. He's like, fifty four holes, shotguns start, no cuts. He's like, that's not golf. That's not that's just not as a fan of golf, that's not appealing to me. No. No, But the money thing, you know, I get it. It's it's funny because I was, um, why and I have a mutual friend who's in the Golf World and and he he texted, why about the potential pro am situation of this liv golf tour. Um, I don't know if we talked about whether you'd go or not when we talked about that last podcast. I don't think so, but I would not of course, not right. But he is saying that, this guy is saying that, you know, there's potentially like two fifty three thousand dollars to go play a fucking pro am. You know that's crazy time. I mean, it's like we are overpaying to get into the club and just kind of whitewashing everything that's happened and papering everything over with money. I just yuck. No, I know, I know, but you know it is what it is to his or her own. Well, if it wasn't what if it was France, you know who was fronting up the money, or Great Britain and it wasn't Saudias, what do you think? Completely different story, right, Completely different to me? But um, all right, I have to run. My help leaves in four minutes, so I'm gonna say, God you godspeed, way to do. Way to uh edit yourself and not embarrassed. Wilder at graduation you real quick. Am I gonna see you anytime soon? Like, what do you have any what's your deal? You just in St. Louis? Yeah, but I'm coming out there for that member guest. But you're going to be in an Albuquerque, all right, Okay, all right, bye Josh, Bye Marge. Listen to Daddy Issues on the I Heart Radio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daddy Issues is a production of Cavalry Audio and I Heeart Media, produced by Margot Carmichael, sound engineering and editing by Josh Windish. Executive produced by Joe Bach, Oliver Hudson, Dana Brunetti, and Keegan Rosenberg.