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You look better with beard. Let me explain to you why I'm clean shaven? Are you ready? Yeah? I'm I gonna like it? Or is this I don't know it's it's not it's neither here nor there. What does that even mean? I never like that. Look. Cost of the Cadillac is calling me. Hold on, I gotta take it. Hello, Oliver, anybody today Cadillac? What's up? Brother? How are you? I'm good, but I'm good. Hey. We're done with your vehicle. We did the break check into life. Um, we're closed now, you guys good. We're just keeping the car for a few months after, like nine o'clock tomorrow. They'll be ready for your pick up. Good for after time. You can just come grab it. It'll be ready for you. I appreciate it, man, Thank you anytime? Alright, all right, brother, all right, all right, I love you. That is so l a okay man, yeah, hey man, anytime you guys want to come on and pick it up. We got that thing. I'll shine up for you. Okay, man, hey man, okay, brother, love you? Okay, Bro? Yeah, Bro, Okay, I know him. That's my boy. And okay you just you just did an impression of l a give me a St. Louis car service impression. How does it work where you live? Okay? Call me? Hey? Is this Joe Joe Buck? Hey, that's Eric. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be there. I'm gonna be the guy at the You're the guy Atson. You gotta call me. Okay, ring ringing ring? Hello? Hello, Hey, who's this? This is Josh I work at Bombrito. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah? Is my car you call him to time of my car is ready? I'm assuming what I said you're coming. I'm assuming you're calling to tell me that my car is ready? Hello? Yeah, okay, that's ready. Everything turn out okay, no surprises, a few surprises, but we'll talk that when you get here. Alright, go, why are you clean shaven? Um? Well, I I did fiddle with your hair the whole time, and so I feel like I'm talking to Ben Franklin at the end of his life. I'm sorry. I just usually wear a hat. It's all over the place right now. I yesterday, Oh my trouble things so far? Yesterday, I was it the day before. Day before yesterday, I did something called a Morpheus laser treatment. So I go into my man Dr. Jason Diamond, who was a great, a great man, and he is fixing my face, trying to make me look sexy for the season two of The Cleaning Lady. Anyway, I went in and they they I'll send you a picture, but they put cream, numbing cream all over my face for like an hour, and then they did this crazy laser thing on me where it's like needles and penetrating the skin and it's supposed to tighten you up and add collagen and take away or a few little wrinkles whatever. I I'm trying to freshen up. And it was it was I did a laser. Isn't this gonna be bad for continuity's sake? I mean, what if you look so much younger that season two, you look like the before picture of what happened in season one. Yeah, it's like Benjamin Button of television. I just keep getting younger each season. It's definitely not that drastic. I mean you look, you look minutes young. I don't think i've seen you look this young since two weeks. And I'm still swollen here, like they it didn't really oh dude, Like they put numbing cream on for an hour, you know, and it's still hurt. It wasn't as excruciating as I was told it was going to be by some friends who had done it before. But they were like, oh my god, it's the worst than I am. I got and Aaron was even like, babe, you can't do this, like you need to take painkillers and valium. And I'm like, what's Like, how can it be that bad? And I didn't. It wasn't that bad. It hurt on the forehead, you know, there's no there's bone and like the chief bones and they did under my eye like that hurts. It hurts. So if you put that numb and cream all over your face? What are some of the things that I could do to you that you wouldn't feel? Probably slap me? Could I slap you with like a full shoulder turn? Yeah? I mean no, I'd say just the arm, not full shoulder turn, and I would feel the impact, you know what I mean, the concussion of of your hand, but the slap itself against the skin, you would it wouldn't be that bad. And then the problem is that dripped down onto my lips, so then everything was numb for like four hours afterwards. Like couldn't that sounds like a nice dietary plan. Yeah, it is. You just numbers it is. So that's why I'm clean shaven. I haven't been clean shaven in in many, many years. Honestly, did you use a razor? Did you? I didn't go that far. I took just tight. I took took a clipper thing and went tight. I took the lawnmower that we used to sponsor, that used to sponsor us. Um, yeah, the what's it called fucking manscaper? And uh, I took the guard off and I went up like wayen you know? Yeah, I I can't. I haven't used a razor on my face. I can't even remember, dude. I mean it's been so long me either. I I've done a Super Bowl where I haven't had a beard, but I just kind of used the clippers get it down as close as I can. I just don't like having a smooth face, and I hate it. It feels I feel really uncomfortable. I don't know why. It makes me feel fatter. For some reason, it does. Yeah, it makes me feel like dirtier, even though that's crazy counterintuitive, but it just it. Weirdly, does I feel like more things like stick to my face? My beard sort of works as like Celia and it like schluffs off all the bad stuff. Yeah, okay, that makes sense. This is uh did that's boring start to a podcast we've ever had? Now? You know what do you mean? We we we we We just did a whole bit where we played two characters. I told you about my my laser ring, you know, um, and then I used a word called Celia, which I'm not sure if that's even correct, and you didn't correct me. Isn't that a Phil Collins song? That's Celia? Sum you. I have three things that I wrote down that I want to talk to you about today. Okay, I have a couple of things too, but you go first. Okay. Um from Margo to everyone. A short, microscopic hair like vibrating structure found in large numbers on the surface of certain cells, are causing currents in the surrounding fluid or in some protozoans and other small organisms providing propulsion. Wow, is it? Is it pronounced celia Cilia? I think, so how can she do that? I don't know, but I'm jump I was close. I was close. Okay, number one, Okay, I will go, I'll go my my top, I have three. You have to once I get to the last topic, I think it'll be the longest topic that we talked about. Minds that we can be done. One unsolicited shout out to my wife for being able to make a good dinner out of whatever is around. I can't tell you how like she It is as impressive to me as if she could grow flour out of her ear that that she can look in our refrigerator. I just had the best chicken chunk on salad with rice and peppers and some sort of sauce around it and black beans. It was so good you could sell it in any restaurant. And she just put it together while I was in the pool with the boys. So I don't know if Aaron does that. I just I'm of the ability to do that. That's amazing. That's the whole tableau you just painted felt very domesticated and sort of very sort of fifties like or dad's in the pool with the boys and moms in the kitchen whipping up some chicken. Catch a tory. I'm sorry, does that hurt your California sensibilities? Like the idea that I had the boys and she she enjoys that she's drinking wine, she's cooking food. She's happy. That makes her happy. That doesn't mean she's June Cleaver all of a sudden. No, no, no, I I get it. I totally get it. I love cooking. It makes me happy, so I I understand it. When I was picturing it in my head, I pictured it all in black and white. Yeah, we we we we operate in black and white here in St. Louis most most days when you land in St. Louis, it's just black and white. Yeah. Whatever that was that movie with Woman? That was? What was it? Was it? Pleasantville? Pleasantville? Yeah, where everything's been black and white. Yeah, we live in Pleasantville. We have our own little bubble. We we have a combination of Pleasantville and The Truman Show. And somebody's just basically maneuvering my life from up above. Now I saw this HOLYESPN thing coming. I love that. I love I love that, and my Mom was like that she still is Obviously she's still with us. Uh. Yeah, she could whip up anything from the refrigerator and and she's just throws it all into some crazy pot and and I don't know how she does it. And when you're watching her, it's sort of like, oh geez, like what the hell are you doing? And you know this is in there in a celery stock and like munster cheese and some like jam. I'm like, what the funk? Like this is not gonna be good? Mom, what the And then she serves it and it's incredible. She really has a knack for them. Wow. Yeah, I don't understand how there's a sauce involved. There was no sauce before and now they're sauce. Can you break down the sauce just via your taste buds? What do you think was in it? Um? I'm feeling like there was some sort of bra cream. Was a cream based at all? No? It was not creamy. Beau was brothy, so like maybe a chicken stock, MOFFI like a chicken stock. Probably like a chicken stock. Yeah, Um, i'd probably some cars good, Like I ate a whole bowl of this stuff? Was it soupy. No, there you go. That's some of the salads left. Um. But but so that was good, don't go anywhere. Well, we're back after this short break with more daddy issues. So that was the first thing. But but here's the real thing I was going to tell you, uh, and then I've got one more thing. Tournament are my Children's Hospital. Golf tournament was Monday this past Monday. We raised sid half a day for Children's Hospital. And it's so fun and I think you should come some year. And it's just so awesome and humbling to be around these kids. We had about six kids that have all been through absolute hell with their health. And then you know, one thing we have in St. Louis are great hospitals, and Children's Hospital is a top ten hospital in the country. And the money that we raise goes to the imaging center. So that's the m R I machine, the cat scan whatever. They made me a putter from one of their imaging you know, like a three D putter that they made from a printer that was that was kind of a gift that they gave to me that I'm looking at right now. But to be around these kids, there's a kid there eight who just had he's he has some sarcoma that he's been battling. And you do watch the video and I sit up there and I have to talk right after it. And as we've talked about before, I'm the easiest, easiest cry in the world. And I'm watching this video just melting and and I can barely talk after it. And it's this eight year old who talks about, you know, there's no reason to be sad. He just had his right leg amputated, he's got just fitted for a prosthetic, he's been he's been battling cancer, and he's talking about how it's who nobody's got time to be sad. And and then you you apply it to your life, It's like, what am I bitching about at all? And if it's not you, if it's if it's even worse, and it's a kid of yours, my god, I mean, there's just nothing more crushing. And then something like that, and watching these little beautiful kids go through these things, and I don't know, it's just it's such a great night, it's it's a great day. Te off at eleven. We were in the reception room by four thirty and we're out of there by five and we raised sixty dollars in essence and these kids stories as kid Luke who was there as a little boy, now he's a senior in high school. He comes back every year, gave me this great gift. Um. And it's just, I mean, there's just nothing more cool and seeing these kids thrive after watching their life and their their whole story just walk right and there's Rio right there right and just watching their whole life flashed before him and their poor parents. And I don't know it just it was a great day. And I don't good for you. Have you here some year for that? Good for you. I want to make a comment on that, but I want to say first that you know I always joked at you know, you didn't invite me to your wedding. No, no no, no, even though you really did, you actually didn't invite me to this. Um, I did invite you to my wedding. No no no, I know you did the wedding. I say you did this many times. You were gonna fly out here with Victor Coleman. That was last That was a while ago. I was last year. But okay, it's all good. But some year you gotta fly in. I will fly you in. I want to and I love that you do that. Um. I play in the St. Jude Tournament every year Patrick Warburton's and the same thing that the kids come up on stage, and it's it's heart wrenching and heartwarming all at the same time. Um, I'm always crying. You know, there's a part of me that gets scared to hear it because then you can't help but transfer those feelings to your children and the projected what if this happens? And Uh, it's amazing. The resilience of these kids and and and their positive outlooks. It's just fucking crazy and it's inspirational and truly unbelievable because you know, I, as an adults forty five year old man, put myself in that situation and I would crumble. I feel like I would in anyway just just crumble instead of having that sort of resilience. Not to say that they didn't go through some sort of pain and suffering emotionally and then came out the other side. But they're just their positivity and there just their outlook is so incredibly inspiring and amazing, and UM, so years ago I I actually volunteered to the Children's Hospital and I would go there every Thursday. And I started in in l a and I started with just reading books two kids. But in the lobby, you know these kids who are coming there for appointments or checkups or this and this and that. And it went really well, and it was really great, and and and then I was talking to the liaison there. I'm like, well, how do I get upstairs? You know what I mean? Like I wanna like that's just for a listers. Yeah. Yeah, They're like, they're like cruise. I'm like in the basement level, you're more of a lobby guy or a basement or cafeteria. I was. I was basically talking to kids an adults who weren't even sick. They're like, you just entertained the people coming in and like a lobby host, you know, right, the UPS guy. Yeah, I'm reading the UPS Guy. But there's a whole protocol that you have to go through in a whole training session. And I was like, oh man, I don't know the time for that. But I got pushed through this girl, Miriam, and she's like, you know what, screw it, just let's let's just push you through and you and you go and do it. So the rest of the time that I was volunteering there, I was scrubbing in. I just scrub where a whole things because I was now in these rooms with kids who had their immune systems completely stripped. You know, they were on their last sort of legs, and and and you know, I guess I don't know, but they were always told that when it comes, when it's coming to the end, or when your last ditch efforting, they just strip you of everything, strip your immune system, and you know, and um, and uh, it was unbelievable just hanging out with some of these kids. I did a whole wedding ceremony with this little girl she wanted to marry me, and I brought rings, you know, a little toy rings, and we did an entire sort of ceremony, you know. And then but when I was going up there, you know, um, when they were first sort of briefing me, they just said, they said, look, a lot of the kids where you're going aren't gonna make it, you know what I mean, Some are, but some aren't. And uh, you know, if you're gonna be here consecutively or or for a period of time, you're gonna get to know some of these kids, and it's important that you just understand it that they might not be here when you come one time. You know, it's really heavy, really really heavy heavy stuff. Um, but I did it did It did feel great to be with sit with them and it was inspirational and it was amazing and their parents were incredible, and um that's what hooked me in. When I was a young dad and Natalie was three maybe so this is like she turned six yesterday and we were getting her checked for cystic vibrosis and the doctor was like, I don't know, I just want to check it. And my dad had done a lot of work with CFF with cystic fibrosis for I mean two decades worth of work. And I remember telling him the night before she was going to go in for this test eleven thirty in the morning, and he was, you know, what would he have been in nine? You know, he's he's over seventy. Wasn't moving around that grade. And I was I was like, well, we're taking Natalie tomorrow. They want to check her fascistic fibrosis. It was like, she don't have cistic fibrosis. And I said well, okay, Dr Buck, but that's what they want to check her. They do a sweat test. Other than your diagnosis, We're still going to go through that. Don't don't worry that she doesn't have it, I said, I know, but it just it makes you stop, and it makes you take stock of everything. And his big phrase was don't holler until you're hurt. So don't worry about it until somebody tells you something different and gives you a reason to worry. There's no point in letting your mind go. And so comes around the next day and I'm in there with Anne and Natalie, and who's walking through the front door. My dad, and he sat there with us through the whole test and they make they put this like plate on Natalie's leg to make her sweat, and then they they test her swi at. It's like a sweat plate that you sweat underneath this thing. And the first time she was running around and being hyper and she didn't sweat enough, and then they had to do it again, and you know, she didn't have it. But the point was when it comes to kids, and it comes to that everybody, everybody likes to look the other way, you know, like you just said, I don't even want to hear some of the stories because my mind will go to, well, what if that happens to my kids, or you know, in the case of my dad, she doesn't have it And it was probably ridiculous Stephen Checker for it. But um, but you know, you can't be too sure. And when that happens, that's when you pull everybody around you and hope to have the biggest nest you can have to try to make sure that everything's okay. But that so it was at that time, and I was like, if I'm ever in a position I was twenty seven years old or whatever I was, I'm ever in a position where I can really make a difference anywhere raising money for something, I'm gonna do it for this place. And and it was it was as much for the kids as it was were the other parents. It was as much for them as it was for the doctors and the nurses and the people that are there every day. And like you said, they they're giving their pouring their heart into these children, and they know some of them are not going to make it, and they're seeing death every day. They're seeing great stories every day too. But it's a lot on these caregivers that are in there with these little kids who are going through so much and showing so much strength and courage, and it's just it, it's really, it's really who was the biggest celebrity there. We don't do that. Me, We don't do I was the only person there. Really we we Yeah, it was just foursomes. Like Patrick Warburton you just said he played in he came to mind way back, hold on. Not long after that he flew to St. Louis. So he's been to my Children's Hospital golf tournament and you have not. However, no, I know you have invited me, and yeah, I haven't been able to make it. I'm just saying has been there and you haven't. This year, I got no invite and I could have made it, okay, but you're getting your face lasered off. Change happening. If I would have known that I was going to the thing, I wouldn't have lasered my face off. You know, we have that procedure in St. Louis. So next year, one year after we can play in the golf tournament. Then I'll race you to the day spa and they can numb your In fact, you can play golf with the numb cream on your face and then afterward, before the program or during the program, we'll just watch them laser age spots and wrinkles out of your skin. Yeah, and do it for the kids. That's that's a great message, little show and tell. It would be amazing. We're raising money. These kids are going through hell cancer. I'm lasering my face. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like that's uh, that's appropriate. If you're enjoying this episode of Daddy Issues, don't keep it to yourself. Please share the love and tell a friend about Daddy Issues and go subscribe on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Stay tuned. You don't want to miss what's coming up right after the break. Al Right, go ahead, you have something you want to talk to me about. I just wanted to hit upon this whole golf situation that's happening with the Lived Saudi Tour. Dustin Johnson has moved over. Now de Shambo has moved over. Of course, you've got Kevin nah Phil Mickelson has officially moved over, giving up their tour cards. Patrick read, Yeah, so is this a slippery slope, um. And then I wanted to get your take on just the money aspect of it. There's a certain point where everyone has a price. And if you're Graham mcdowalll, if you're Kevin nah, even if you're DJ and they're offering you a million and fill Millon and de Shambo, it's undisclosed. But he's even more of a draw than Phil. Probably he's probably to fifty. How do you turn something like that down? Um? And what are your like feelings and thoughts about it? And on the flip side of it, you know, McIlroy was giving a press conference today Rory and just talked about money and how ultimately if you do something solely and specifically for the money, you're never really sort of will be fulfilled at the end of the day. I I I'm glad he said that I didn't know that he did a press conference, and I agree with that to a certain point. I think that there's two sides of the tour. There's the side of the guys that no, they're not probably gonna make a ton more money. You know, Phil Nicholson's my age, he's fifty two, and this you know, he's the one that's trying to say that he's fighting for UH, for the other players on the tour. I just think he's trying to justify a money grab and and I don't think he needs to apologize for it unless you get into you know where the money is coming from. And then then there's the slippery slope, because I think if if you're the one to stand up and go, well, I don't I'm not taking their money because of what they stand for, then I think you have a really strong firm footing on which to stand with that. And I think you're you're on the right side of that. You know, whether it's human rights violations that are you know, there's unending UH and and I understand why these guys want to cash a check, but at what price to their legacy? And if they don't care about that and it's only about cash, well, then Dustin Johnson can answer the questions the way answer the questions, which were, I I do what's best for me and my family and that's it, and and this is this is to secure our future. Now, I would like to think that he probably has secured their future with the way he's played to this point in his career. I don't know enough about what these players have issue with with regard to the PGA Tour and the share of the money. I I don't. I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. So if they're really getting ripped off by the PGA Tour, then hey, do what you gotta do, and if you're willing to to jump in bed with the Saudis, then have at it. But I I it's not I don't think if I was in the prime or just past the mid line of my career, I don't. I don't think I personally would would go do that. I just I just think I just wish Phil or Dustin or whoever. When they do give the press conference, and Phil did give his press confidence because I think they're playing tomorrow in London, I wish one of them would just be like, look, you guys, here's the deal. You know. Yes, I love the PGA Tour. Of course I have one majors. It's given to me. This has given me that we all have a price. Some of us may not, but most people have a price. And the money was just too good to pass up, you know. I mean, as far as the tour, fucking us, and you know, using our likeness to make money and we don't see any sort of you know, royalties from that or whatever. Their argument is, like you, I don't really know, but it's been pretty good. They've made your career, you know, they have afforded you to get these sponsors. You've obviously played well enough too. But it's I wish one of them would just say the money is really good. Two million dollars. I'd love to hear who would turn that down? You know, for those of you who are nay saying me for like the shambles of the world or whatever, you think if Shamble was offered half a billion, five million dollars to go announce over there, do you think he'd do it? I don't know. Probably that's that. I mean, I don't know. I mean, I I don't know him at all. I don't know at all either. I'm just I'm just saying, I know, I know what your point is. Your point is everybody has a price, I guess, but then everybody has tigers. But Tiger Tiger was apparently offered almost a billion dollars, like highs nine figures, and he's like, nah, but that makes sense. Yeah, and I think I think that that's a wise decision for somebody that is highly as as highly regarded as Tiger Woods. And I think some of these guys are damaging their legacy forever. Now if you don't care about that, you know, I think about that all the time in in Major League Baseball, when when these guys are like, well, it's his second performance enhancing drug violation, you know, you can kiss the Hall of Fame, go buy Well, maybe not everybody cares about the Hall of Fame. Maybe they'd rather, you know, fly in the face of of the rules of the game and take whatever performance and ancing drug they're taking. Make their three fifty billion dollars and okay, I got caught. I still made my three fifty million dollars, and okay, I don't go into the Hall of Fame. Whatever I don't, I don't care. I assume there are quite a few players it would say hall of Fame or three fifty million dollars. If if you know you're gonna get caught, then you're not going to the Hall of Fame. I would say most more than fifty would be okay, I mean I yeah, all right, I'll take the money and I think that that's for each individual to come up with. Now, I mean the other slippery slope is when you say, well, I'm not gonna take any Saudi money. I mean they they have, they have funding in a lot of different companies that a lot of us use every day. So so you know, where's the line. And and if you're you're gonna throw rocks at at their glass house, well then good luck because you're probably doing in some roundabout way the same type thing. You're just not an all world golfer that they care to pay to watch play. So you know, I it's just unfortunate to me that that the money that that is funding this is coming from the Saudis instead of some other corporation that says, okay, we're gonna take on the PGA tour. And it's it feels a little more clean. But you know, when we Phil, Phil said so many things that were just so crazy dumb about you know, the human rights violations and the terrible track record that they have and these guys are bad m efforts and whatever, almost just scoffing at the whole thing. And I that's just dumb. And from where I say, I agree, and that the the The the issue though, is as you talk about legacy, it's almost like Phils he it was already tarnished before he even stepped foot on that London golf course. So you know, after he made all those comments and then and then I was like, all right, well I took these weeks off and fuck it. When now what do I have to lose? You know what I mean, Like it's over, I might as well go do this. But he's gonna come back and play in the US Open. And he's gonna come back, and how do you think you're gonna go play in the majors his reception? Do you think he'll get booed? No? Because the US Open. Everyone loves Phil. The US Open everyone. Yeah, that's the thing. That's that is what a fan is all about. Even if somebody shows up there with the sole intent, the sole intent to boo and heckel Phil Mickelson for this because he's an easy tar, a good Now, if he's in the lead and finally wins the US Open to complete his career Grand Slam, people will go crazy and those same people that are there booing him will be there cheering him five minutes later. If he's in a position to win, so and that's the same thing in baseball. You know, everybody's booing the perceived steroid guys unless they're on your team. They're on the other team than boo boo boo. But if they're on your if they're in your uniform, Yeah, this guy is amazing. I want to watch him hit home run. So it's a little hollow, you know, I I it rings a little hollow too. Yeah, I just it was almost like once the US Open, once the U s g A said that that they were going to allow anyone to play in the US Open, that's when you saw Bryson and Patrick read announced that they're they're bailing. And then I'm wondering if after the US Open, now you're going to have more people moving over you know, there's gonna be more sort of defectors. Well at some point, at some point. Yeah, it's interesting because at some point the PGA tour, that's that's basically said, Okay, you go over there, you're not going to be a part of this tour. If enough people go over there, they're gonna have to change that. They're gonna have to change their stance because you can't have a tour. You're already barely have Tiger, who's not playing in the US Open. He's he's waiting for the British open Um, so you already barely have him. Now you don't have Phil. Who are the marketable guys on the PGA tour? Who who moves the needle? I I don't know who that is anymore? I don't and fell Ricky went over to the live tour. Yeah, I mean, okay, Sergio Garcia. I I don't know who they're market with. Who are who were the guys like, oh my god, so and so is it still speak? Maybe like he's in the league. Yeah, he's a great guy. He's gone now, so no more DJ. You know. Then you got Scheffler, the new guy who's just kind of like all yeah and just in amazing. I mean, the guy is so good, but nobody's going, oh my god, I gotta run home. Cheffer in the league. Yeah, the shambo is gone? Who is a big draw? You know? Yeah? I don't know. It's true. Don't go anywhere. We're back after this short break with more daddy issues. Alright. My other thing that I was going to talk to you about Michelle. I, I don't know that you and I have even talked about this when we were in Cabo, and I can't give a lot of detail, but I'll give enough when we were in Cabo, not not when the four of us were in when Michelle and the boys and I were just there a couple of weeks ago, and she's still struggling with her dad passing away. She talked to somebody that her friend Sheila gave her and I guess this person we would be categorized as a medium, like somebody who gives a quote unquote reading. I don't know what they're doing on the other side, I don't know. And this is just by the phone. And all the women knew was Michelle's first name and her phone number because she called her. Now, is there is there a possibility of of background check and links and you know, could you find out that um, that Michelle is somebody at ESPN and then go down that rabbit hole and then you you know, you link into me and whatever. If somebody cared to do all that for a hundred bucks, I don't think so that they're going to do that much work. But the detail with which this woman gave a reading to my wife was it was stunning, like stunning about her dad, about her dad's house, about her dad's you know, not being proud of the clutter and everything else. And where to find all of his papers because Michelle and her brother and he don't really know where his anything in his estate or I mean he had no estate, but anything in his you know, where he banked. He didn't even know that. So you know, they're they're going, you know, where to find all that stuff. And that stuff was there, stuff about Michelle's brother, stuff about Michelle's brother's kids, stuff about me, stuff about my dad coming in and talking to her about proud. No. She wrote down sixteen pages of notes and then we sat there and she went through the whole thing with me and I I was emotional. She went through it with Trudy. He doesn't my daughter who doesn't believe in a lot of that stuff and thinks it's all bullshit. And and to the point where Trudy was crying because of things my dad was saying, crashing this reading and saying, you know, I never got a chance to meet Michelle. She and I would have been two p's in a pod um making mention of my first wife talking and saying that he's obsessed with you have two you have Do you have two boys? Yeah? I have too, Yes, we have two boys. He's saying, are the boys similar? Yes, they're twins, um and and like with first names, and and you know, is there Blake, you know Wyatt and he's watching over them, and he's watching over Joe's older daughters. And I just couldn't be more proud of my son. And was I good enough? Dad? Did I tell him enough? And I mean, and it was on him and then about Michelle's mom and more stuff about her dad, and I mean, it was just shock game. How amazing what reading was. And I'm kind of a that's a bunch of crap, and you know, it's it's all mind games. And these people are skilled at at giving you half answers and asking you questions, and you're revealing things that you don't know you're revealing. But but there was so much detail and stuff that even if she knew that Michelle was Michelle Bisner who worked at ESPN, was married to Joe Buck, this woman would have had no idea that this other stuff, of course, not see stuff that I can't even say, yeah, wise too personal. It's personal about it's not about Michelle and me. It's personal about other people in Michelle's life, and it's it's not fair for me to talk about it. But they did say. This woman did say, Michelle said, do you believe in past lives? Michelle's like, you know, I don't not, I don't really think about it. This woman's like I've I've on readings for twenty years and you're the first. You're one of the few women I've ever talked to where every one of your past lives you were a man and you were either a ruler, you were a ruler, a king, somebody who made decisions, and in three of your six lives you were killed and in the other three you did a lot of killing of other people. This couldn't make more sense. I mean, it's perfect. Like I I that that energy makes sense to me. Not not that she's masculine or as like a man, but like she's tough as ship, you know what I mean. She's a strong woman. She would be categorized as a guy's girl and with a mustache. Yes, yes, yes, and so I I just my my question to you, and I know the answer before I even asked it. But I know from come from whence you come with Goldie and Kate and everybody else, the women that I know in your life, I mean, you've you've been, even my mom. This is the last I know. I'm going on. Even my mom, who is the most religious person I know. When she was in New York in the sixties and she was acting and you know, doing Broadway and different things, she saw a fortune teller or a reader, a medium, or whatever the hell these people are. And this woman said, you will meet a white haired man who will have six kids, and you will have two kids of your own, and your son, your your firstborn, will be a son, and people in this country will know who he is. And she met my dad two years later, white haired man with six kids and had my sister and me. And so she's told that story for fifty years, forty years, and so even even she doesn't have a leg to stand on because somebody told her what was going to happen in the life, and it happened. I believe in all that stuff. I mean, I take it with a grain of salt, but I do believe that the human can tap into certain things, you know, I do believe in psychic ability. I believe in sort of accessing parts of your brain that are inaccessible to some um you know, even if you read Eastern philosophical stuff for spirituality through Buddhism and Hinduism and how deep you can go through meditation and the Dalai Lama and how you know, how he has found his successor it's pretty incredible shit, you know. And I do believe that it would be sort of short sided to think that we as humans are are a maximum k ability, you know what I mean, Like, doesn't that sound crazy? If I'm like, no, this is it. We've maxed out, our brains have maxed out. This is all we can handle. No way. I mean, we're such infant creatures really, and we're extraordinary that way. And where we've got this, we've had an intelligent design. And so I believe that there are certain people who can tap into, tap into more than we can even imagine, you know. And if you believe in spirits, if you believe that my dad and maybe you don't, but if you believe that my dad crashed this reading, then that means you have to believe that there's something after this life, which You've told me many times you don't think there is, and we become worm food. I never said that, I said I don't believe in God. I didn't say that. I don't. I believe that we just we just die and then it's just blackness. I just don't believe in God, and I don't believe that there's like a heaven in the hell and all that stuff. I just don't believe that. I think that's just that's a creation. That's that's text, you know what I mean, that's that's that's the game of a giant game of telephone over thousands of years. I don't, you know, I just don't believe that. So, but I do believe that there is something bigger. I don't know what it is, but I think that I don't think. I think there's something beyond this. We are made of energy, and from a physics standpoint, energy never goes away, so we have to or electricity. It has to go somewhere, something has to happen. I don't know what the funk it is, but I don't believe in the in the pearly gates, you know, I don't believe in the judgment of a of a man, you know what I mean? Like, so you don't but you don't believe that if you just go on a killing spree right now, then I'm going to hell. No that your spirit, whatever spirit that is is that exists after you get shot running to your Ford Fiesta, Yeah that that you don't think that that thing that that spirit now is dark? And maybe yeah, I mean I'm not saying it's all sort of rainbows and unicorns. I mean maybe, and maybe Jeffrey Dahmer is just it's not it's not great. You know, he's stuck in between something and he's he's a tortured soul, tortured spirit. I don't know. There's no great sort of plan. I don't believe and not at all. I believe you can manifest things, meaning like you know, you can be positive and you can sort of work hard and and go through life with a positive attitude. But and then I do believe in luck. I do believe there is luck. But you believe in life after luck? No? Do you believe in life after love? Yes? Yes? Do you believe in share? You believe in Sonny is in heaven right now? One h He's got me, babe, Like there's just no doubt about it. The son he's in heaven, you know. But anyway, no getting back to that. It's amazing and honestly, I want I want to talk to this person. I would love to have a session. I have fucking did Dell was psychics all my life. My mom has turned me onto them. And I will consult the oracle, you know, when I have sort of a decision to make. When I, oh, dude, when I was, what does that mean the oracle? When I that's sort of the joke, but that that's what I said to Mom. I'm like, Mom, we got to consult the oracle here, you know. But I was I finished Rules of Engagement. Rio was ten days old. I got a job. I got an offer a called for a show called Nashville that I ended up doing. It was for no money. I was making great living on Rules and then Nashville comes along and it's like not a lot of money at all. I'm like, okay, you know, but I gotta stay relevant and this and this and that. I did not want to do it. I didn't want to leave Rio. She was ten days old, going to Nashville for two years, going back, and it was just gonna be. It was hell for me. And I called like eighty different psychics and I'm like, God, I don't have to do and every one of them was like, you need to go. You have to go, like this is a part of your story and it's it's only going to be great for you and you need to go do this, you know. So and I went and did it and it was great for me, you know. It helped me sort of keep my career going. And then I got another job, and another I got a job right after that are actually during Nashville um and then even on this show, even on The Cleaning Lady this summer. This last summer I had, I had a decision to make because I got offered two jobs. An NBC show and this show, The Cleaning Lady. NBC show shot in l a which was amazing, but it was comedy and it was really cute, but it was like I've done this before and blah blah blah or this different kind of show, but it was shooting in Albuquerque and no, no no, no no. And this was right in the height of my anxiety. I was like, oh my god, I can't if I'm getting offered two jobs right this is when you were not sweating. Yeah, this is when I was everything was wrong with me. I was a fucking nightmare. And you remember that, like, you know, our audience remembers that. They're like, God, thank god this guy's back. But anyway, I I consulted the oracles multiples and I'm like, what the fund do I do here? Like I don't want to go to Albuquerque and live there, but I am scared. Every one of them was like, no, you gotta go. You gotta go to Albuquerque. This is the job, this is the job that you need to do. That came up in in Michelle's reading. You know, I know that your husband, does he have a bad back. I'm sinceing, I'm getting a lot of pressure on on my back and like, you know, I've had back surgery. But this woman said, you know, I know he's he's not as happy as he should be about a move that he's made recently, a big move in his career, and and you need to tell him that he needs to let it go because it was the right move. He made the right move for his life and for his career, which again I mean And then when she saw somebody she talked to somebody two years ago and predicted that that was gonna happen. And I was like, I'm not going anywhere, and she's like, he's gonna be And I thought it was gonna be Jeopardy. I thought I was gonna get offer Jeopardy and and and this woman said, he's gonna do something that he's wanted to do and it's going to be a challenge and it's gonna go well, but it's not going to lead to the next chapter. There will be something right after that. And it was Jeopardy and it went well, and you know, crickets and then here comes Yes in out of nowhere. So I mean, this stuff, you can put it out there and and hope that it gets delivered somehow, which I think that's I think that there are good psychics and bad psychics. They're swindlers like anything else, like any business that you get into, like the Wizard of oz One. Now that dude was he was he was legit. He was legit. Oh oh, yes, Dorothy, huh, I see I see a dog and I see it. Do you have an ant or a grandmother or a mom or a woman in your life? Yes, Auntie m Yes, oh Dorothy, she's calling for you. Now there's a twister comings, but I want I want this was it a man or a woman? Woman? I want her number, okay, and I've got one for you too. I want you to call her. Actually, that'd be fun if the next show, like you've talked to this girl Patricia, who's an amazing you just get on the phone with her, so inexpensive, it's crazy and she's awesome, and she's Irish and she throws tarot cards and she's great. I mean, she's amazing and she knows nothing. I think you have to be open to it. Also, like it on the other end, like if if I went and I was like, no, this is bullshit and she's throwing cards, and like this woman said to Michelle, She's like, I don't. She's like, I'm an a d h D psychic And if something hits me, I say it. It's not gonna all be in chronological order. I'm just gonna say what hits me? And are you willing to hear stuff that's not all puppy dogs and rainbows. It's like, absolutely hit me with all of it. And and so she did, and there was some bad stuff in there. I mean and and not stuff about her, thankfully, but it's forced her to go get a blood panel and different things in her own life. But there were there were It was not all pleasant, it was not all great, and especially about her dad, and and a lot of the a lot of the regrets that he had talking to her through this woman, if you believe in that, like I, I didn't do a good enough job of telling you how great of a daughter you are and how proud I am of you. And it's and he hadn't passed on yet, according to this woman, And and the person who would let him pass on would be Michelle. And so when we were laughing at her talking to the pigeon, when we were all there, she also lit a candle and set a prayer ish and hopes that he passed on. But I, I, you know, pat crossed over or whatever the hell it pulp language you want to assign to it. He's in the bar, does right now, he's in the bar does the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying? Read that book. I don't want to get a little kid. I don't want you, uh don't. There's no part of me. I will not open that book. There's no world where you open it. It's so it's so dense too and crazy. But it's trying like hell to get through Dave Grohl's book, and and it's great. Every time I open I'm like, Jesus, I love this book and I'm halfway through it. I just can't do it. Oh God, I gotta start reading more. I I just I'm so loving television right now. I cannot stop watching TV. And it's it's a problem, like I need to read, but I just get I smoke a big dubes and I get in bed and I just and I'm watching TV differently these days. You know, you get onto a Netflix or an hbox or whatever you're streaming platform is, and you want to pick the best movie or the best show, and you're like, oh, I want to watch that, but like, oh god, do I what if there's something better? There's always something better to watch on TV? And then you end up watching trailers and cruising around trying to find something for now, and they're like, funk, I gotta go to bed. So I'm different now. Now I'm like, if I see it, I feel it, I put it on and it's been fun. You don't second guess it. Do not used to go through Blockbuster? No, did you just really roam those aisles would roam? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Did you buy Did you buy candy at Blockbuster? Ever? Me, the fat kid, I killed some Twizzlers. I'd buy candy there for sure. Oh my god. Blockbuster the movies were like behind the cover. Yeah, you'd see the box, but the actual the white box, actual vhs had to be behind it. And then when it was and you're like, damn it, God, Preston God here before me. I can't believe I wanted to watch Goony God. Going of the movie store was fun, though, it was like exciting. You know, have you seen uh, you know the Tom Cruise thing? No, not yet. I really want to see it in the theater me too. Yeah, I'm gonna go watch that this week. Actually before Why can't I not think of the name of it? Top Gun? Top Gun. That's age, buddy, that's age, it's age. I won my golf match today. Yeah, nice, I played good. Do you know what you shot? Many? Many? Good? Huh? Did you keep score or not? Really? His match play? Yeah, I shot seventy six, but I had shot seventy six with two doubles. Oh jesus, it's really good. Yeah, from the back tease Windy wet it was a legit seventy six. You're paying the kid who who plays in the NHL. It's thirty two, So I felt young for a day. How how badly did you beat him? I was? I was up four after this match play. I was up four after four holes. He tied me on ten. He went ahead on so he came back from four a four a four point death to sit he did. Then I was down after thirteen. I tied him on fourteen. I went ahead of him on fifteen. He made an unbelievable up and down on me on par five sixteen to tie me, and then I wanted on seventeen. I won the hole with a bar. I was two up with one ago. Wow, dude, Now, how many more matches do you have to be the club champion? I think three. I do think you can do this. I'm not I'm I'm not answering that question, but I feel better than I'm a better player now than I was when I got to the finals. Just depends on how I play when I play. Are you in the top flight? Y? Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, good, I gotta go put my kids to bed. Alright, go. I love you. Listen to Daddy Issues on the I Heart Radio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Daddy Issues is a production of Cavalry Audio and I Heeart Media. Produced by Margot Carmichael, sound engineering and editing by Josh Wendish. Executive produced by Joe Bach, Oliver Hudson, Dana Brunetti, and Keegan Rosenberg.