Good morning, Joe. Hey there shirtless the shirtless wonder? Is this what we're gonna be? Is this what we're going with every week? Well? Here, you know, you know I wear shirtless is because it's what is it? My? Look at Maria. It's six thirty am my time right now. Because I had to get up for you. You had something to do. I just rolled out of bed, and you know I don'tm not wearing a shirt, so you should actually be thanking me and grateful that I'm that I'm here for you right now. Does this mean that you're wearing skin colored nikes right now? So? Because they match? I've got nothing on foot. Um, but I had an interesting dream last night. I want to hear it. Does anybody You're gonna call me curmudgeon Lee again? But anybody ever get off on other people's dreams? Nobody cares? But yeah, go ahead. Well I got off in this dream. Do you want to hear it? No? But go ahead? Um, My wife does this every day. You can't believe the dream I had? I'm like, you're right, I can't believe it. This was a beautiful dream, Okay. I was riding a white horse bush. I swear to God, and this is a recurring dream multiple times. Do you want to have it again? Don't say it. I don't care. I don't care. I want to say it because it it felt, it felt amazing. It was short, so this isn't a long story. I'm riding a white horse bare back on this mesa and it's a full moon, so it's like that moonlit and I just am feeling extremely free. Now I am clothed and I'm not like naked on the on the horse. But after about I don't know, thirty seconds of riding this horse just sort of takes off and now I'm flying on the white horse. And I looked down and I can see everything below me, and I passed through these clouds and I am just free, just flying through the air on this horse, and it felt really amazing. And then that was the extent of the dream, but it was special for me. Yeah, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, Yeah, I rest my case. What do you mean how nobody cares about nobody? That was horrible. It's just it had it had no ending. There was my truth. It's my truth. It's what's in it's my subconscious I'm trying to reveal my subconscious now, care to analyze it? Yeah, I'll analyze it. You're you're you're a fucking analyst, aren't you analyzed? You were stoned as hell when you went to sleep, and you probably did. You probably had this dream right out of the gate, and then the rest of the night you were drooling on Aaron's air. But yeah, that's it. You can't analyze me riding bareback on a white horse that actually takes off into the clouds. I mean, you know, you know who I am? Is there any sort of profound analysis? You're you're shedding. You're shedding your former life, your former slovenly look, and you're you're cleaning your act up. You're on you're on your athletic greens. You're you're feeling better about your body. You've got a haircut. Finally, post quarantine, you should just work in all the sponsors. You have a watch on. You just used a Roman wipe, right, you just signed yourself up for insurance policies. Do you know that if you crash that now pegasus first, it was a horse, it's a pegasus. If that thing crashes into somebody's chimney or maserati you're covered thanks to policy genius. Oh yes, this is true. And then when I'm recovering, I can have a drink works, you know, so I can just have a nice cocktail or something right while you wait for the insurance adjuster to show up. That was thank you, thanks for that job. I'm gonna write that down once this is podcast is done. Um. Yeah, so we recorded this, I don't know, a few weeks ago or so. I can't even remember. My man, Adam Sandler, one of my very good friends. He bought my childhood home from my parents, so I get to still be a part of my childhood thanks to him. So yeah, we recorded the episode with Adam so long ago. I think he's released four more movies since we talked to him. Yes, he's like, he's this. He's like Stephen King in the literary world. If if you he gets into a cab, he goes ten blocks, he gets out of a cab, and he's produced another movie. He's prolific. He's prolific, and he's great and and he's he's so genuine. I think he's just somebody that when you see him on screen or when you know he's behind something, it just feels authentic, it doesn't feel forced. He's just kind of being himself. Yeah. I love his stuff me too. And you know, he's obviously multitalented. He can be water Boy and then go play this part in Punch, Trunk Love and or even Uncut Gems. The guy can act. I mean, there's no doubt about it. He can. He's a great actor. UM. And he's just so versatile. He can do whatever the funk he wants. I just don't think he gets the credit actor. I don't think he doesn't even need it. He's happy. The guy's a lot of money, good family, happy dude, you know, really close with his wife and his girls. Yeah. And what I loved about this, um, this conversation we had was, you know, everyone knows who Sandler is as a comedian. UM, even in his press interviews. He's funny. He has not really talked much about his dad, what he meant to him, how painful it was when his dad passed away, UM, and the influence that his father had on him. And we got into that ship and it was really fun for me, someone who has known him for a while, to hear him open up about that stuff. On top of that, how he is as a dad, and how protective he is and how with with his girls, and how it just comes through in the episode. And we'll cut this off so we can get to it here soon. Just there's no pretense. It's not Sometimes I feel like you see people trying to act like they're a great dad. In Adams case, after this episode and the way he talks about his girls, you'll just know he's a great dad. He's not trying to act anyway. He's just he's a protective, loving dad. And that, you know, makes me like him even more when I see him on. So enjoy Adam Sandler in all of his glory. Good to see it, Good to see you. Thanks for having me. Thank you brother, This is this is a treat for Joe especially. Yeah, it is my god. We you and I have shaken hands before, but we've never spent any time together. Although I feel like I know you well as I've watched you same age age before me on my movie screen, and I've aged before you on your sports TV screens. We got that in common. Have you ever have you ever, you know, been listening to a Yankee game and been like fucking Joe Buck always felt like Joe Buck had a was pulling for the Yankees. You knew it was good for the world. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. I rest my case every Yankee fans, like, what what do you hate the Yankees? Come on and Mike, why would I hate? Are you kidding me? Why would I hate the Yankees? It's gonna only help Joe Buck if the Yankees win this thing. That's right, You're right. I've won Emmy's thanks to the Yankees. I've been watching a little bit of the Korean baseball. It's been fun. Is the Korean Baseball League up and running? Oh yeah, it is? Yeah? And the umps are wearing masks and stuff, and it's it's and you're getting to get to know them a little bit. And there's great players over there. It's like watching the game and no one's in the stands though, right it's no one's said they have like cardboard cutouts, right yeah, which is a little odd, but at least it kind of looks normal. And I got some headlines a couple of weeks ago when I said every network is gonna look to put audio like some sort of fake crowd noise under us while we're doing the game. They're gonna put virtual fans in the stands if they can if it looks okay, Because if you're at home and it's flat on the broadcast, or you look at the stadium there's nobody there, it's gonna look like practice. I mean, it's it's just gonna be it's gonna be weird. So you've got to try to fluff it up a little bit. I think I heard, uh somebody's talk about announcing the games now that they'd be nervous that the players can hear them. Yeah. I don't want to call a home run too loud to pictures be piste off at me that he'd hear me. But yeah, that that is a factor in Like Oliver and I've talked about, I try to use the crowd as much as I can. So if it's not there, you're gonna feel the need to talk, like for three straight hours because there's gonna be no other noise, which is gonna be terrible. Yeah, that is a slow game to not have any noise. God, which told you guys, Vince Scully that much more unbelievable at doing games by himself. Crowd or no crowd like that. Sometimes it's sitting there for four and a half hours. Yeah, man, did you guys watch the Tiger Filth thing? No? I just saw it was good. It was good. I liked it. Did you watch it, Joe? I did? Uh. I loved it. It was different than the one they did the week before. It was it was fun and and Peyton Manning had a blast. Um. He may or may not have taken advantage of the fact that he, unlike Brady, is not scared of a cup of vodka from what I hear from friends that I know in the business, so I think he had a little, a little swing juice going and Brady Brady looked nervous, which when you're out of your elements and you're used to being the best and what you do. Man, Oh that's the worst. Worst. I did only one of those tournaments, like fifteen years ago. Only you must love doing those tournaments, right, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, shock everybody, how great you are? Oh I love the Dudevice. My first tournament ever one of those pro ms was at in in Palm Deserts at the Bob Hope and Arnie Palmer was the host at the time, and on the first te he was sitting watching everyone tee off. Now, most players are right handed, so they're back is to Arnie. They don't have to look him right in the fucking eyes while while they're taking the club back. I'm a lefty, so I am six feet from him, and he's like staring right at me, right down the barrel. I'm like, oh my god, Like this is crazy right now. I mean, it was the most nervous t shot I think I've ever and ever had. I had a going, I had a great one, so much so that these the kid who keeps the score or whatever, you know, he runs up to me in the middle of the fairway once where once we're down, he goes. I thought you'd like to know that. Once you hit the ball and walked off, Arnie was said that kid's got a great swing. Oh my god, God, you play awesome. I do. That's really how Oliver and I know each other, uh is through golf events, and then I bring him down to Mexico every year to El Dorado and Cobbo. We play in a remember guest and uh the first time we ever played together and really hung out was it that one out in Tahoe Oliver when I got to know you better. And Kevin Kevin, Yeah, Kevin's there. Yeah, it's fun. I mean, you know Barkley, Charles Barkley holds Court, you know, is up all night and having a blast. So it it brought us together. I love that hang out of it as much as I love actually played golf. I remember I went to one. I haven't done in it so long because I don't play that much. I don't. I haven't played in the last ten years at all. Maybe yea, you you used to and then you just gave it up. Yeah. I used to be able to go out with you, but you were incredible. I was. I was okay at best, but but uh. I went to one tournament with all athletes out at Sherman. What's what's that Sherman the Lake Sherwood. Yeah, I did a tournament there and it was all football players and all basketball players and they were all the guys. But I remember just nine of the guys had the toughest time walking from the foot old football player so shot man it was. It looks like like revolutionary war people coming back from the front lines there, you know, just hand somebody a fife and a drum and their walking down the fairway like with one one replaced hip after another. Um. So to give everyone a little bit of backstory, because no one knows this, but Sandler and I have known each other for a long time now. Our wives actually became best friends when they were modeling in Miami, which we won't we won't get into that whole world because who knows what the hell they were doing. Yeah, that doesn't exist. You know, anytime the word even when I hear the word Miami, just even the word, I get like a little nauseous. It's good to know you have that gene. Ali, I didn't know that you really gave a shit about that stuff, protecting those feelings. You just blocked that. Yeah he does. I dude, I get jealous, Like in the beginning of my relation, all my relationships, I'm jealous buck Like I get crazy, a little crazy, and then I ease into sort of normalcy. But in the beginning, if you're not jealous, you don't care, right, But I need I need specifics. So I need who were you with, what happened? How big was this dick? Why were you with this guy? Where were his hands? I need to know everything, otherwise I can't sort of sleep because I don't want to run into some dude later on and wonder you know what I mean. I don't want that. I do want I don't want that. I want to just ignore anything. But I'll tell you my biggest difference in getting older and what I'm jealous of. Fact, what that that all the stuff you said was was early early part of my jealous brain. Now the stuff I get jealous of this when some when when some normal guy doesn't react crazy to a situation and your wife just goes, oh, it was nice that man stayed calm, And he's just like, oh, you're liked. You like a guy, stay calm. You know, I don't even make up sex anymore. I'm just like handling and I I don't handle think, Okay, I got it. Isn't that nice how that man fixed our refrigerator and you couldn't do it? Yeah? Um so then anyway, so that's how I met Sandler, and then he actually ended up buying my childhood home. Yes, yep, yep. And uh, I think my bedroom is now an Jackie's office. Your bedroom is in office, uh, Sonny, my daughter's growing up in Kate's room. And but Sadie. I think lives. Didn't You used to stay in that room too, that Sadie Sadie Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. When I was well, you know, I didn't leave. I didn't leave Mom's home until it was twenty four when I met you. Yeah, you were still sleeping in Sadie's room, by the way, I was. I was, but it was funny, man like. Yeah, just so you know, Adam, those aren't ghosts. That's actually it's actually Oliver still being up in his room gets kicked out by Aaron. Yeah, Oliver grew up in a good house. I got to say that was a nice upbringing. Nice nice. Uh. We took Oliver's little handball court. What was that a little mini tennis court? Yeah, yeah, a little like the paddle tennis court or whatever. Turned that into a half court basketball. That's that's like the BA. And we took the sacred cow away. That's right. Your mother just took that. No, she did, she just took it. That was not part of the deal. I thought I was getting the cow and that you don't get the calendar. There was a cow involved in the transaction. Potentially, what you had a city you grew up with a sacred cow. Oliver, Yeah, what what was that cow? It was? It was like this ceramic cow that we've had in the family since I can't even remember. And you know, I think it's still it's still at the fucking still at their new house. Yeah, it's a new house. That's really funny. I've been to the new house. I swam in their pool. They hid the cow that day because they know it was part of the deal totally, this breach of contract, by the way, that when we went. When I first looked at the house, I I first saw the house at a party. Oliver had a giant party and and that's where it happened. We're looking for houses, and I was with Jackie in the kitchen sitting there, and she kept going, this is what we're looking for, this kind of house. And I was like, yeah, this is awesome. Then she's like no, this is and this and pointing at everything. And then then it got done, like your mom and Jackie talked. But uh, I don't know. I I think there's nothing like getting ripped off in a deal where you buy something that wasn't for sale. That's right, say Ill at the time, Oliver, I don't remember. I think I think that created the film. That's how much you love Jackie when she's like, no, no, I'm no. I mean literally this house, not kind of this house, literally this house. What about that party? Oliver's parties were giant back they were huge up the street. That was I think one of the biggest parties I've ever been to. And then also I when I went back to see the house another time, I go, I can't just drop all my cash just for a party night. I gotta see this house one more time. And I remember going in and Kurt was there, was Kurt, and he was just he was sitting in his office and he was kind of disrelaxing and sitting back and he's like, oh hey, oh hey, yeah, let me show you. And he just showed me a couple of rooms and then he goes, you can check it out after a little while. And I remember he just sat and watched the ESPN or something walking around the house and he's like yeah. He was very cash about Oh yeah, well, you guys became neighbors. You were funny, asked neighbors. You and Kurt sort of across the street from each other. Amazing, always felt protected. When Kurt was across the street. I just know, I know he literally I remember your brothers caught some guy looking in my yard. Yeah like that. I can't both your brothers grabbed the guy or something that yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep that Wyatt and like Boston, Yes, they were that was I was at very protected at the time. Then you guys moved out the street. And I feel like at any time I can get killed without so happy you're you're doing this, Sandler, because you know it is about being a dad and being a son and and I know how much you loved your your dad, and I know that being a father's your number one priority to your girls. And uh, you know, so you grew up in you were born in New Hampshire and grew up in New York. I bought in New York. Okay, there's Jackie by the way. Say we were talking about Jackie Miami and Miami. Uh and Sunny what are you doing? I gotta talk sun Sun, sunset. You can't listen get at it? Oh, dude, I just I just saw Jackie and Spades movie like two nights ago. It's so good. Jackie is so good and Jackie's great, she's so pretty. She looks beautiful to say that, and that that's good. She's that smiling right now. The Barracouta's very happy. But glad you like that movie could and uh and then being a father and uh, and I've grown up. I'll tell you my story. I was born in Brooklyn, New York. And then my father when I was five, and I'm one of four kids. When I was five, he got a job in New Hampshire, so we moved to New Hampshire and then I walked there. And then after and most of my family stayed in New York, like relatives and grandparents and everything, and so we kind of went back and forth to New York and New hampt for the whole time. What did your dad do for a living, I don't even know. He was electrical engineer and then he got a job in in UH in New New Hampshire has an electrical engineer for a while, and then he got into electrical contracting. He he ultimately when I was in high school, he got a company, electrical contratracting company. I used to put in UH alarms and wire houses and wire hotels and all all that kind of very very like a real guy, like a real man, knew how to do stuff. He didn't pass that along to meet He actually like I used to say them because I'd see him be cool with that, and I'd watch like Fonzie, you know, be a mechanic and stuff, and I was like, I want to be like a fonnd. So I'd say to my dad, can you uh, can you teach me what's under the hood? And he'd be like absolutely, Saturday morning, we'll go do it. And then literally get up, like seven thirty in the morning, go to the driveway Papa hood. He'd say like two or three things. I'd start tuning out and he'd be like, you know, I don't want to them. I do, but you know I got Paseball later and be like, just get out of just move was what was it nine to five? Stuff? Like was he there like for dinner or you how did that work? You know? Yeah? He When we first moved to New Hampshire and he worked at a company, say hi guys, say hi Ali, what's up side? What's up? Girls all? And that's Joe say how to Joe? Hi girls? Okay, so my my my. When when we first moved to New Hampshire. My father worked for a company and he really into coaching all our teams. He coached baseball and basketball and that kind of stuff. So he used to try to he was at every practice and he'd always get there on time, and he always he was all about that stuff with us. And I had two sisters and he was all about studying with them and helping out and being part of their lives. So yes, he even when he didn't have any control of his job, he would like take off lunch and shoot home and that kind of stuff. It was all about the family. And and he's really was was had no friends. My mother would try to be social and stuff, and he would be like, I don't wanna, you know, We'd rather be home with the kids. He was that kind of guy. And uh and and so yeah, he was around all the time. When we would go on vacations, we would go to like Howard Johnson's or something and just be the six of us in one room and you'd sleep on cots and stuff. And he never went away with other family. So I like grew up like that, that kind of guy. And uh and uh and and so I I started feeling guilty when I was making a little bit of money, and I would call my dad and say, I'm thinking of going to Mexico or something that some guys are going. He'd be like okay, and then I'd be like, oh, my father would never to do this. He would never just run away if he had a shot, he would run home and be with his family. So it always always in my head was like, what am I doing? I better go to New Hampshire instead of going to Mexico. I was always a little jumpy about doing it. Yeah, but I mean that's you literally have taken that from your dad. I mean, you bring your family everywhere you go. You know, I know that you are just a unit, a solid unit, but what but what a gift Adam. I mean, when you when you get to a certain age and you realize that not everybody else grew up that way, and you start looking around, you're like, my god, my dad has been here. He has that pull back to our family, and I mean it feels like in this day and age that's even more rare. But but for somebody like me, my dad was constantly going, going, going, and I used to just savor every minute I got with him. But it was a totally, and I didn't feel like he didn't want to be there, but he was always working in other cities and doing all that other stuff. Right, But what a gift and and thank god that that you had that and you now provide that for your girls and your wife. I'd say, thank you, man and I and you're right, your dad, that was his gig. He had to go on the road. He had to do his thing. And uh, did you go on the road with him? Ever? Like when it was I did. I mean, he took me my my my story and this isn't this podcast isn't about me. But I came along at a time when my dad was married with six kids and met my mom, who was coming through St. Louis uh in a theater production they met. I came into the world, uh not long thereafter, and then he started up kind of his marriage with my mom, and but I think there was a lot of guilt there for him with the other kids. By the time I was twelve years old, I had been in every National League city. He wanted me to travel with him, so I got to go on a lot of those trips, but I didn't miss a lot of time. And then later on the end of the story is he and I were broadcast partners with the Cardinals, and I got a lot of that time back on the team bus, on the team charter doing that kind of stuff. But I I just I I find it just inspiring for for any dad out there to hear Adam Sandler say that you were aware that your dad when he had a moment was running home, not running out to do other stuff. And like Ali just said, you do the same thing. I know you have your girls involved in projects and your wife's a big part of the wrong Missy and other stuff. So yeah, thanks man. Yeah, I mean, like, like Oliver, I remember you you were telling me your your parents. You grew up on sets to your your parents bring you if they had a gig out of time, they take you with it. It's just you're just happier. You love your kids so much. You don't want to be away from him. You don't want then the to you know, like you go away for a week or something. It's okay, you know they missed you when you missed them, But when it starts being a lot a lot of time, it's shake takes it up too much. Did your ad sacrifice a lot for the kids or was he pretty was it pretty much? There was you know, I never never. It was a natural thing. And my dad wasn't a drinker he he uh. He used to eat, you know, like that was this big thing with with the kids. Like he'd say, hey, don't tell your mom, but let's stop for some MC nuggets, you know, and then we eat. And then when he driving home, he'd be like, your mom doesn't need to know about this because she's preparing lunch for us. And then we get home and I'd be like, did we just eat? You'd be like, you know, chowing out another meal. But but I don't know if it was a sacrifice. He just like naturally wanted to hang with us when when when my father passed away, though I remember the funeral was really like a lot of nice people in Manchester, our hometown. I love my dad. Even though he wasn't like running around doing stuff, he just was part of a little league and part of the the city. So everybody liked him as a guy. And so at the funeral, I had a few Oh, my dad was a great golfing. My dad was really great at golfing, so he uh he had some golfing buddies that at the funeral came up to me and told me, I remember when your father did this, and that was the only time I went my dad, Holy shit. I don't know he ever did. I don't remember anything in particular right now, but I was like a dad. I didn't really know that like that. You find that at funeral, so you you hear about your dad. I didn't need to know that one, right So yeah, I've heard some stories too from some people. Did that deal detail need to be thrown in there? I would have been good without knowing that one thing. You just that. I remember I was in I was in the driveway with my dad and he had this two tone colored Cadillac Dar green on the top and I like green on the bottom, and I thought I loved that car, was the coolest thing. And we got into the driveway, were cruising around. We were tight. Me and my dad would really like I would lay My dad would had a bed in the TV over there, you know what, well, my mom would sleep. It was the afternoon. My father was hanging out in the bed. I would lay down with my mom and watch the TV with him and shoot the ship with him, and I remember I said, uh, were you like this with your dad? And he goes, it was a different time, man. We didn't get that tight. But he loved me, but it wasn't like this, and uh so we were really just shot the ship and I was close, and I always wanted them to love everything. Uh you know, get the approval about every move I made, even though I was kind of a fucking big mouth and I got in trouble and stuff. I didn't do everything right, but I ultimately wanted him to like what I was doing. But not really connected to what I just said, but I remember we were in that fucking Cadillac, was sitting there with We're close, and I for no reason, I said, will you ever with anybody before mom? And uh he goes, uh you mean romantically? Man. In my head, I'm like, oh no, he's gonna get me something here. I come here and I said yeah, yeah, and then he looks at me. He goes, you know there was before your mother. I there was there was a time where I it was called practice. I was practicing. But I said, what do you mean practicing? He goes, I practiced with a couple of women before I go and I seen. I was such a little baby. I started screaming water and I came and I left the car and I ran into the house and I was hugging my mother Like that's sick man. Actually that that brings up a question actually, like because you have girls, yeah, they're they're getting to an age you know where it's you know, you gotta talk about sex and all that crazy ship, Like how do you deal with that? With girls? I have Reo, my little one. We're not there yet. With the boys, it's kind of easier. It's like, hey, you got your little dick and you know, yeah, it goes plays like what do you do? Or does Jackie handle that? Or does they How do you deal with that? I think I gotta start handling it a little better. Right as it was growing up, I always played like, hey, no, no, guy, you nothing. I don't want you to. Don't worry about that. I'm not anybody hurts says one thing, I'll knock him out that kind of ship. Yeah. Uh. Lately Jackie has been kind of telling me, like you want them to feel good about a guy one day, and like you want to be friends with this guy. You don't want to say you gotta hate everybody, and I you know, I am changing a little bit, and like where I talk about their futures and this make believe future I talked about, you know, you just wanted a nice guy, guy who you can count on. It's gonna like look out for you and blah blah blah. I'm getting into that world. I'm less less being like, fuck everybody, we need that ship. You only need me. Now. I'm like, hey, I'm gonna fucking die one totally totally, but let me give you the cliff notes because I'm I'm a step ahead of you. You and I are about the same age, but I've got daughters that are twenty three and twenty um and and there with serious boyfriends who I love. We all love. And what you're putting in with your girls, I guarantee your girls think of you more as their buddy than they do their dad. And then that's kind of what you were leading to with with your own dad, like you were more friends. I looked at my dad like he was my best friend, not not my dad, Like the guy who came home and poured a stiff drink and then if I got out of line, he gave me a whack it was, and so you'll get all that back and and that openness is golden, and then they'll start finding men that remind them of you. But Joe, Joe, but did you handle the specifics of womanhood or did you leave that up to their mother? You know what? I left that up to their mom. I mean, I can't. I can't talk to him about, you know, having a period every month. I have no idea so that I just remember that kind of came and went and and all of a sudden they knew. But like you and I have talked about, it was so much that's out there. I think it's almost naive to think that they're not going to have some idea of how the basic anatomy and the whole equation works. It's more about being there emotionally and and like Jackie said, let them know that whatever they whoever, and whatever they're bringing home question wise, it's an open forum to ask whatever. And and and that's what they'll do with friends, which is what you and your wife are to them. I imagine, Yeah, man, that's good, that's good. I I appreciate that. You know, it's funny, Adam touching on something that you said earlier, you know, when you were lying with your dad and you're like, did your dad do this with you? You know, it's a touching story. And I relate to that because you know, as you know, my real dad wasn't there for me. You know, I didn't. I didn't get to have that sort of physical touch, you know. And um, and I'm I'm super physical with my my boys. And I lay in bed with them and cuddle them and and I will and I will be lying next to them, and I won't say it out loud, but I'm thinking, man, they're so lucky. They're so lucky because I never had that, you know what I mean. Like I never had a dad who would just lay down with me and cuddle me till I went to sleep, you know. And I'm like, god, man, they're such lucky kids, you know, you don't you don't have to let them know that. That's just in party. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I'm not like you lucky. You know how lucky you are? All right? Right? My dad never touched me. I didn't care. Yeah, no, I know what you mean. Man, it's I have I'm like beyond my dad with staring at my kids and love it, like I'm psychotic with with Like my two kids are running around, his thirty kids around. I'm still just staring at my two kids, like she tripped, she tripped. I think she tipped right there, and ever who tripped? I'm like, I just she tripped, That's all, you know, I just staring. I'm staying like an idiot too much. I'm so in love with them. But was your dad? Was your dad discipline? Discipline? Yeah yeah yeah. But by the way, Joe, my my father didn't crack me a few times. There's no doubt about that. You need to stiff drink. That's the sad party was sober. But he was like, but but you know, we were so tight and he would touch the king and a family that uh, none of that ship mattered. They were they were heated, crazy moments. And I look at those moments and say, Jesus Christ, I wish I didn't upset my father so much because I was a fucking big mouth and I didn't say dumb ship and I was a punk because I when I walked down outside, I see a fifteen year old kid, I see him being a wise guy. My instinct that at my age it's like this fucking asshole kid, you know, wise ass But then I go to the second part, I go, actually, I think I was that fucking dick. I was being there like that, and that's why my father said, kicked the funk over here a few times to me, you know, oh yeah, oh yeah. But but it's those moments though, that you almost need that in a way where you like, that's the way I was disciplined by my parents. I didn't get I didn't get in trouble for the big things where it's like, look, you know what you did long you shot out windows with your BB gun. All right, you're fucking idiot. Yeah, but there's no need to punish you, because we're gonna give you the benefit of the doubt to know that you're an asshole. But it's the little things. It's the little things where I'm being, where I was being, you know, sort of just taking ship for granted, or being a spoiled kid, those small things that I don't recognize or didn't recognize. This when Kurt and Mom would just get down on me, and that's when they would get piste. You know, yeah, man, I mean I know, I know, And man, Kurt loves you, Kurt. So I remember when I first met you and Kurt told me how far you could drop drive a golf ball, and I was like, Jesus Christ, Kurt's in love with this kid because there's no way he's hitting it that long. And then I probably I was like, oh ship, I don't know, whatever the fun you you probably gonna end up three I have, you know, in a long time. But yeah, yeah, yeah, he raised He definitely you know, made me the man that I am. I mean even I mean, I'm like not really much of a man, but the little man that I am. You have many manly things you can do, You're I've got a couple manly things. He fishes, he can, he can he can put bait on a on a Yeah you were talking earlier though, So I'm a dad the second time around. Now I've got two year old twin boys. And it's weird to see kids, you know, become adults like I have with my girls, and now to start back over, because it doesn't matter what you have. They're so fragile and and like you said, you're you're sitting back staring at him going, oh my god, I think she just tripped. I think she tripped a She okay, there's nothing that scares me more. It keeps me up more at night than the inability to protect these boys from any little thing like walk, taking one step too far somewhere or whatever. That that is a frightening feeling as a petty you know what's it's so funny. Last night I didn't sleep at all. My one daughter is eleven Sonny, and she she had this weekend she wanted to jump in the ocean and she had she burned itself like two years ago, so it's still it was a third degree burned. So she still got to cover up from the sun with zinc and all that stuff, and she said, can you put a band aid on on that so um, you know, the sun doesn't hit and it's protective and it doesn't. Can you get a waterproof one so it doesn't come off in the ocean. So we got of these waterproof band aids, put it on her, and it was starting to hurt her and we couldn't get it off right because it's waterproof, so it's so sticky, and so going to sleep at night, she's like, I'm scared. I gotta get this off. And my wife tried olive oil and it wasn't working. And just because I'm so nuts over this kid, I couldn't sleep all night long. I was like, we gotta do that tomorrow morning. It's gonna hurt her. And I was looking online all the tricks to get a band aid off and extra sticky, and I didn't sleep, and so I'm a mess. But when I woke up this morning, what the CBS when it opened up, got baby oil with squirting on her, and then Jackie and Sonny got it done. I I literally had to leave the room every time he was going just do it, just do it, get done right. And we're talking about a band aid here like something. I mean, you know I had a band aid on. I'd hear from the other room when I'd be like, oh, I just hear my grandmother going, man that off. I'm not already. I mean I was with her man it started. Oh it's so true. I'm the same way. I have so much stress over my kids sort of well well being. It's and I have to try to put it out of my head because I can. It can spiral me. You know, Wilder has my tummy hurts, right, I immediately go to oh my god, you have the stomach, can'ts all right? I gotta take you to the hot all right, you know. But but I know he probably just has to fart or whatever. But I have to stop myself from going to the extreme. You know why, because everybody, the three of us, I think, Man, we were so lucky. We've got it so good. When's the shoe gonna drop? You know? I think about that all the time, all the time, like it can't be good. Some bad ship's got to happen. I think about I think about uh me dying now. I never thought of, like I guess I block it out on them. I don't. I don't want even think that's possibility, but I do when I get something funked up, my head's dizzy. All of a sudden, I'm like, oh no, no, no, we can't yes right now, I can't die because I I fucking lived in fear at my dad dying all the time, and then when it happened, Holy shit, it's so upset. I remember getting ready from my grandfather's funeral, my mom's dad, and I was watching my dad. I was, I don't know, thirteen fourteen, watching my dad get comb his hair, and he used to love when he would comb his hair down and he would try to find the right hair to start the part to go over to the side. I was fascinated by that as a little kid. And here I am Oliver talking about Harriet again, but different, different part of it. Uh. And he looked at me and he said, I know what you're thinking about. You're thinking about what it's going to be like when I die. And and I was, and and I and he nailed it, and then cut to him passing away. And I basically had to be the MC of his funeral. And I don't know that I ever got a chance really to to mourn that whole thing. But I it's funny you just said that because I had written down on my little notes that I made to talk to you about death, because I think at some point we all all start thinking about it a little bit more. I'm fifty one, you're fifty three, whatever the hell you are. But but it does, it does enter in more than it ever has. I want to just pick up on Sandler too, because I'm the same way like I'm not. I'm afraid of me dying because what the hell will my kids do if I'm not here like I. I live with that fear for sure. That is so real. Sorry to interrupt you, Joe had to get that out. No, that I mean, that's basically at some point you start thinking about it. I thought about it as a kid, worried about it for my own dad, and now I am the dad, worried about it for what it's going to be like for my kids. And you know, I do freak out about what's on the other side too, but for bad. Yeah. I actually I I don't think about that anymore. By the way, you guys, when my father was dying, it was three is like, three days before he died, and I said, I said to him, I go best golf score seventy one, right, he goes seventy. I oh sorry, and so uh he was like, don't run around say seventy one when I'm dead. It's all right. Yeah. But but I said, I was sitting there in this hospital room and it was just me and dad and he's sitting he's very uncomfortable because of the cancer and all that. And then I said, so do you uh, do you think that uh he goes what I said? Do you think maybe he goes that this is an afterlife, and I go yeah, and he goes, how the fund should I know? And I sorry, sorry, and then he go on, But it was so funny. I was gonna get a movie moment. I'm just like, right, he was just like was scared? That's all I don't know. Was was he afraid of dying or you know that he didn't tell us that he I mean, at the very end, I think we had to do the morphine and stuff. He knew it was coming, and he was just an agony, so he didn't talk. He didn't say anything about being scared. He just was like, I love you had a good life, right, A good life. Don't feel bad. I had a good He used to say that a lot in the last couple of years he ago, And my mother says it to me. Now, just I had a great life, so don't be don't they all knew I was. My father knew I was so in love with him. You go, don't lose your mind. I had a great life. Now you do that for your kids, and you do that, do you remember a moment? Do you? Because I'm the grief. I can't even think about my parents dying. I mean, it's it's beyond my comprehension. But was there a moment where you the sort of the sun came out again, you know what I mean? Like? Or was there was there a time we're like, oh, wait a minute, I wake up. I woke up and I actually don't feel as bad as yesterday. I don't think it was quite like that ever, But you become I'm remember being unable to say the word dead. I always like the first year or two would be like he I couldn't even say he passed, he passed or he passed away. I didn't like saying died. I think like, uh, maybe four or five years later I was able to laugh about him. And I mean before that for sure, but where it was like a guarantee people could say your dad blah blah blah, and I joined in the talking about my father's ups and downs I didn't and and and being able to snap on me and bah blah and I would laugh. But it was tender for a long time, right, No, I don't know. I was, Yeah, I was. I was the same way I although being in St. Louis, which is where I still am, I would get a story a day on kind of what you said earlier about being at the funeral hearing stories about your dad that you never knew, and they did it on the radio here in St. Louis. I was like, my god, he did that too, and stuff that he didn't come running home and tell everybody about at the dinner table. He just did it because he knew it was the right thing to do. But I remember my dad being in intensive care and he had a track which was kind of the ultimate irony. This guy with this beautiful broadcasting voice couldn't talk, and so he had to mouth it to me, and he said, you know, I hope because I went there every day. I went there every night, and he said, I hope. Me laying in here, this is all being mouthed to me. So maybe this isn't what he said, but this is what I took. That when you get to where I am right now, it's too late. Live your life. I was building a house at the time. He said, build your house, be happy, have fun, don't worry so much, because when you're laying here like me, it's too late, and what's it all been for? And I think about that. I don't want to exaggerate, but I think about that once a month or something, if something comes along. I think about my dad saying that because you're at your probably your most real in some ways, when you're about to check out. And and that was basically the last thing he said to me. Uh And and it was great advice because we could all probably use a slice of that and as we you know, worry so much in the day to day stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my that's that's my dad. I always was when I was in my twenties and just started to get into being a comedian and all that stuff and trying to be good. I was always competitive with other guys too, like a like a psycho. Like someone was doing good, I'd be like, fucking ba blah blah bah. I could be dad, I'm better than that guy and blah blah blah. And my father. I'd watch my dad at home see other comedians, and I'd see him laugh at other comedians and I'd be like, guy sucks, but he's funny. I'm funny. He'd be like, you're both funny. What are you doing? Why are you so jumping about everybody else? He's good someone. So it was good and uh. He we used to kind of get on me, just like just it's not a competition. Just enjoy your ride, other than being so fucking threatened by ship and and I ultimately got I got to that. Nope, Nope, maybe one or two things probably bugging nowt but right right the last ten fifteen years, I was able to enjoy other people being great at ship and go wow, I can't I can't do that. That gets great, or that that actress is great. I could never pull that off, and so much better, whereas in my twenties I was like, fucking, I gotta get great. I gotta be this and that. And my father and when my father was dying at the hospital, I did Fifty First Dates that movie he got sick. I was with you, Oliver, I knowwaii, I know I was. I was at the hotel with you when you had to leave. I remember, man got the call wood Oliver and it was death and uh and uh man you we just got there that day, yeah, exactly. But my dad when I was at the hospital, Joe, like you was saying with your dad that track my my my father was in bed and I kept getting um footage of of edits of fifty First Dates, and I would watch it and I'd laugh and I'd go, that's good, and my father would be look at that. They can do it without you. They can go. Why don't you go live your life a little more and stop stop because I was always in the editing room and always blah blah blah. They can do it without you. Man, you don't have to do He's so on top everything, and go have a good time a little more. You're always fucking stressed out over all this stuff. And he lightened me up a little bit about not being so jumpy about every aspect. Yeah, yeah, I I did he I know he was your biggest fan, and I know you always wanted his approval, But did he get the early stuff? Like it was it was so quirky like you when you popped up, at least in in my world. It was so different and it was so you know, like what are there? Was the stud boy or whatever you were doing like you know it was it was just it was it was a different slant on it. So it wasn't like somebody standing up telling you know, like the question is was your dad ever? Like what the funk are you doing? He did that more that he loved everything that a baby, it was great. You were terrif he take everything I did. But when I would just discuss wanting to get better, it'd be like, you know, why don't you try being more yourself up there? He would give me a little things like that, but he did think everything I did was funny. But then he supported you from the from the get from the very very beginning. I didn't bring him to everything because I would choke when he was there. I'd be so cursed a lot, and I felt like an asshole cursing and talking about certain things in front of my dad. So I uh, I even Saturday and I live. I knew when my dad was a I would choke, get nervous that he was there. That my father. My father realized that, and he'd be like, we don't have to come and just go do your thing. I'll come in on Sunday after the show, Hanna, We'll hang out Sunday and Monday. He'd be like, that's your job. Go do your thing, don't don't don't worry about us. And and he also my mother never saw me do stand up because I cursed so much that my father would be like, Judy, you don't want to see this, you know, but his but he I feel like his his advice for you being more yourself. I feel like that's your appeal. Like I was with my eighty year old mom today and I said, oh, I'm going home. I would get to we get to interview Adam Sandler on the podcast. He's like, oh, I love him, and I just I feel like you're appealing to every demographic because you just you come off so genuine like I don't. I don't see a lot of a lot of act I just see a guy who looks like he's being himself, having fun, smiling, and I don't know, it's it's that's a hard thing to accomplish. Thank you. And I got. I got to a place where I was comfortable being more like who I am. I mean, I can't guarantee if you were in my house you would see three or four different moods that you'd be, like, sucking head of sailors, insane man, I didn't know. But but I I keep that away most of the time. But yeah, when I first did stand up, I was so scared out there that I would jump into like I saw a Bobcat Golthwaite and Kinnison and Dice and all that stuff, and I was like, oh shit, I gotta create some sort of persona Stephen, right, you know, Like I was like, let me fucking just do some weird thing because then I'll feel less nervous or I'll have some way to catch that way and then uh, ultimately, don't know, I just got older and calmed down and able to talk like myself. Well, your stuff now is is authentic as it's probably ever been your stand up stuff. Yeah, I feel feel better now. Yeah, yeah, I remember you too. When I first started doing stand up again, Oliver came to ask him to see me at that. But I was just starting to get going again and it wasn't great. It was just starting to get confident again and it's fun. I love it again. And now I had some giant tour coming before that. Again. Man, I remember when when it was happening a couple of months ago, I had I had maybe fourteen dates set up at all these nice big joints, and uh, and I kept saying, like a week or two before I was going this this thing, Man, I don't know if this is good. Well, we uh, we can make sure that no one touches you. And I was like, no one touches me. All right, we'll do that. And then I started going, but I'm asking these fucking people to sit next to each other, but they can't, like, you know, it's not that. And then I find that I was just like, I think, I pull the plug on this scary ship. Where where is your fear factor with all this? Now? Like where you? Where are you with that? Finally I'm a little less than that. But I was so scared, uh when this was going on, so scared for family, so scared my you know, I have family members that have ship that they always say, well if you have this, So I got family members with that. So I was fucking nervous wreck over it. But uh, it took me a while, like like when I go uh into a grocery store or CBS or something like, I I maybe five percent scared now, but yeah I was. I was like, what the funk are we eating right now? For man, let's skip eating day I don't want right Yeah? Oh yeah, I had I had anxiety like I thought I had coronavirus at least six times a day. I'm like, oh, I've got it. I must have it. I mean, my mind just spun me out, you know, yeah, I I How about you, Joe? You were you nothing like that? Yeah? Yeah I am. And then with the with the little boys here, the two year olds, I was worried, even though they said it didn't affect kids. You know, you're always worried about being the exception to the rule. And every kid I read in the paper like, uh, you know one kid got sick and didn't make it. It's like, oh, fucking it's kids too, What are we talking about it? You know, it's like the percentage was where I was still like scared shitless. And how you went to when you went to CVS today, did you wear a mask? Yes, I wear I wore a mask, and I wear gloves. I feel for some reason, gloves are all relaxed. If I'm you. That's like the silver lining in this whole thing. Like if if if we weren't in a pandemic and you went to CVS wearing a mask, you'd be an asshole. But now we're in a pandemic and you can go to CVS wear a mask. Nobody knows that you and you can go get you know today, the mask and the sunglasses and the hat covered me up enough that I was like, oh shit, I am just a normal person. I'm not getting any treatment at all. And so I said that the UH got there early, and these three pharmacists was setting up in the back and shooting the ship and ignoring me. And I said, and I'm looking for baby oil for the ladies. Anybody know where the baby oil is or something? And I get hit with silence, and I was like, ship, there's no adam sailing the fact or going on a little out. I go, anybody know that baby oil? Where the baby oil is? And maybe some basiline and now? And then one lady goes, I have fourteen, So I go, all right, I go to fourteen. I'm looking around for vassil and I'm like, and I always anytime someone says that ill. I still can't find it for a half hour, so I think what part of fourteen touring me? And then I go, hey, ladies, give me a second over here, and they all look up, and I said, oh, maybe you know who nuts. I go, just look a bit of vassilting. Can you point me yet? It's over there, sir, okay? And so they didn't know. They didn't know it was bad boys, damn it. I wanted to say. I wanted you to say, you like started humming, like the honikah sound or something. You will find me vasoline later. How how your girls doing in all of it? With all of it, you know, Sadie and sons good good? I mean miss miss and the human contact and having it miss and having a friend sleep bowl, that's the you hear the most, right, Yeah, oh yeah for sure. Are you guys having to like create ship and things to do each day in the house? Are you more active, like all right, let's go do this, so let's try to do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a little nutty or everyone else is kind of like, we don't need to do that, man, but I do. We gotta get outside, they said the sun is good for us, right, you know, like we gotta take a walk, or we gotta this or that, and we walked the dog and uh that that that kind of ship. But I'm running. I'm running out of energy to even keep that going. Yeah, it is amazing how lethargic I've become doing nothing like I I'm way more energetic, traveling all around the country doing games that I am right now. Doing zero. Yeah, there's well, there's no excitement right to like, oh, I'm gonna get to do this. It's just kind of like, I don't know what the funk I'm doing. It's such a weird spot doing this interview right now. I was like, Okay, three o'clock. My fucking kids wouldn't leave anyways. It's just like now I'm wondering. I'm wondering if you bought like a one bedroom flat from Oliver's parents, since everybody seems to be in the same room. I'm not at I'm not at the Oliver House. I'm at the the the twenty year ago beach house. You got to use it. I've used it up in the pandemic that I've made up for the years I didn't use Are you you're working out at all? Dude? Yes? But eating eating so much? Didn't I send you that thing I was doing? Yeah? I love that thing. By Did you do it at all? Yeah? Yeah, it's it's it's great. I mean it's good, it's really good. Is I I did it? I just can't stop eating. I'm supposed are you? Did you do the hundreds? You get up to two push? Actually I didn't get up to two hundred push ups, but I got up to where do push ups? I was getting like thirty seven thirty in a row. I got it do it. At the end of it, I was getting to like a D and fifty. Yeah it's great, But I don't go all the way down, man, because I'm always afraid I'm gonna rip something, So I kind of cheat a little bit the whole time, you know, and then you're just you're just eating everything, can't stop beating. It's terrible. I looked at shirted off today for most of the morning because I was too lazy to get to fucking go upstairs and put a shirt on and buy the fucking terrible terrible. My kids are like Jesus Christ, what happened? Kids bring up the Zoa and they go, you know, remember the Zohan when you look like in the zona, like yeah, you should do that again? Yeah, oh yeah, rio same things. She goes, You're do you have such a big belly? Like when are you gonna get like abs? I'm like, Jesus, I'm not that it's not gonna happen, you know, but Zohan, you were that you were fit for about fives I had to go with were you miserable? Oh yeah, I mean, I know it looks good, but we weren't you just miserable? I was. I don't know what it got me, and my wife will fool around me either way, So I'm like it. But that's a real thing. Like I have a younger wife who was a Broncos cheerleader, who is perfectly fit, and I'm like this fifty one year old balding hair plug in my mind, fat guy, and I walker. That's all I think about every time. I I like, want to shower with my shirt on when she's in the bathroom. Yo, man, I'm talking swim in the ocean with the shirt on. I I when I'm in a wetsuit. It is fucking horrific. The covery I got my got my asses insane. Bulge isn't big enough doing right. It's the only thing that's not big is the bulge. And that's what That's the only place I stopped. I put my T shirt. But that's a real thing. Though you don't care, You don't care about anything, Oliver. But I think about that all the time, and like she's gonna look at me and go I look at her, and I'm I'm inspired. She likes, like, what did I do? Yeah? She she knew what she was getting, though not as it progresses into worse and worse. Yeah. Yeah, you know, you're you look good for fifty I meant three. I always say I have the fifty three, and then I see other fifty three year old guys look great. I'm like, that guy's fucking psychotic. Yeah, but you're also having a way better life in terms of just not worrying about what you're eating and dieting and working out every second of the day. Those dudes are are maniacal when it comes to that stuff. You know, that's a lifestyle that I'm I don't want to sign up for anyway. Honestly. You know, I know when I when I read a script and it says that the guy's shirt off or something shirt off, he's in shape, So Leagan, I'm like, oh man, this is just just it really does kill you for five six months, you gotta change your body. Yeah, Well, Spade had his shirt off in the wrong Missy. I was very proud of him for that. Has has like it doesn't matter. He's got just a little gentle, a little well, it's a little boy body's exactly what it's got, like a little boy body, and I wish I had that. He's got collar bones that still stick out. And but I didn't notice that. I was watching my wife, and that movie is funny front to back, like there there's no there's no gaps in that movie. That's great. Man. Yeah, it's pretty pretty damn there. And I know it's been successful, but it should be successful because it's really really good. Good my my, uh you know, Jackie's in it and my and my I got family members that I got, my nephew, my brother in law, and my fucking nephew directed it. Oh yeah, dude. When we watched was just like, you know, it's going to like a Sandler family reunion on screen. They are, they're all happy, and it is funny. And I'm very happy for Spade. I love when when he is he's excited. He's just very I I talked to him for me, and what do I know, And I said, only a narcissist would text this to somebody, but because I'm sure he couldn't care less what I had to say about it. But there was like there was a depth to that and it was a moving kind of restrained. You know, he was the straight guy in this, and I was like, man, this is really you. You leave that movie really loving him and and for knowing how great that girl is and how excited fun yes that he came around on her. She's unbelievable. I mean, whoever found she? I did a movie with her. She wasn't blended and she did one day on blended and I remember just going that, girls, man's just Jesus a champion. Jesus. Yeah. So, Adam, would you consider yourself a good father? I would like, what if you're looking in the mirror, You're like, I'm a good dad? I think so. I think I I definitely consider myself a good father. As they've been growing up, and then last year or so, I started coming on, man, they're getting older. I think I gotta like give them the reins a little more, not so so involved and let them make their own decisions. But I have a hard time for that because I am just always you know, I give them ship about practicing guitar or piano, and I'm a little freaking nutty with that. I gotta calm down, but I don't know. Yeah, yeah, if you could, if you could restrain from anything? What would you do? Like it's so it's it's a great point actually because as they grow up, you almost you're shifting and moving as far as being a dad goes or a parent goes. It's you know, when they're this age, Oh yeah, I got it, and then all of a sudd in their tent, You're like, oh, Ship, wait a minute, Okay, now I gotta sort of, you know, pivot a little bit here. You know the other times where you're just like, oh, Ship, maybe I didn't do that part right right. Maybe I was so involved that, like when I would see other dads and situations not be so on it, I mean doing. But then you see those kids that are like fending for themselves a little easier, and our kids are very close with us, and uh, and you're like, you can you can get in there and you're allowed to get in that situation and feel comfortable. You know, we don't have to come in with you. You know. I guess you can overdo it too. How do you do how what are the similarities that you you know, like with your dad, how did your dad raise you? And sort of the different the differences do you do? You do you hear your your Do you hear your father when you're when you're talking, I got I got, uh like, I'm probably more goofy than my dad ever was, and allow allowed myself to look look goofy. But uh, my father was always kind of strong and cool and just like steady. And my kids see me a little up and down for and uh, I think, I don't know. I do a lot of stuff that you know what. I got in there without without I don't ever never done a physical thing ever, never will do a physical thing. But I can definitely bring the the fear the heat, can bring the heat. And when they just go, oh shit, we better listen right now because he's he's you mean exactly me. It's good luck. I would never touch my kids, but I can bring the heat for sure, and I and I feel like shit after I bring it. Yeah. Yeah, But on rare occasions, I just I go, they gotta fucking know this one. It's crazy that they don't know this this thing about the world, or this rule, or how disrespectful that was, or you know, I just go what you know, you know, I get in there. I don't curse. They do hear me curse, and I have cursed angry before, and I feel like I anso want to do that, but but but I have, I have even a different voice. Yeah, Joe just brought the heat on his on his twins when they were coloring themselves with markers. No, I brought the heat on my wife because she's like, you brought the heat on them those well, because they have felt your heat. Because the whole you know, she's rationalizing with a two year old is he's coloring on his leg with the mark I'm like, she's going, Blake, do we don't color on the leg, We color on the paper. I'm like, Okay, notice that now, Blake. He's still doing it. Blake, we don't color on our leg, We color on the paper. Like, take the fucking marker away from him, let's go. He doesn't know English what, just say no and pull it out of his hand. There's no rationalizing with a two year old. Snap baby, snap on a cage. It does get it done really quick. Man. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Sometimes it works, but it wasn't perfect. But it works for different kids. Like Wilder when I got hot, he was like, oh ship with body my second when he was two or three four, when I got hot, he just didn't give a shit about it. And he was just like, right, that's you know. And so I was like, oh, I guess I can't use the same tactic with body as I did with wild Yeah. So funny when when I brought the heat on my Sadie, she she one time said to me, Daddy, this is after it happened. She goes, just so you know, when you you yell like that, I don't hear anything you're saying because I'm she goes, actually goes, yeah, right, when you start, your eyes change and I don't hear anything that you're saying. And oh sho, I didn't know that. It's not kind of amplified. I'm like, listen to me. Yeah that And I was like, this is changing. They're listening, and then one of them was just like, yeah, I tune out because you're fucking insane right there. That's so funny. I literally just had this moment with Wilder the same thing. It was about some zoom school work that he wasn't doing, and I was giving him not a not a school lesson, but a life lesson about being a fucking accountable and responsible And it's not about it's not about the work. It's about it's about doing that. What's about effort? And and I am just getting hot, and I am and he's not looking at me, and then I and then I stopped and I just decided to sort of do a social experiment and said, Okay, wait a minute, did you hear what I said? And he's like, yeah, yeah, And I said, no, I'm not mad at anymore. Now, I'm really just trying to figure out what's in your brain. Like when I get like this, do you actually listen and do you take it in? And he goes, I don't know, like I mean some words, some words. I'm like, oh, wow, you just tune me out when I when I get like that, you know now this just so you know, for history's sake, Adam, we've been on this podcast for a while now. This is the same kid that he told listen, I really don't care if you actually read it, but just learn how to fake your way around. I think there's value in learning how to get by. I really do, yes, yes, yes, to know one one sentence of a topic so you can join in a conversation exactly exactly three. I guarantee you were three guys who bullshitted their way through well this class. My point is that is part of education. I said a wild I said, look, I don't care about your grade, really, you know, I care about the effort that you put into it. And by the way, if you don't, if you forgot to do your homework right, don't just say oh well screw it right. No, figure it out. And by the way, if that means calling a friend and copying the fucking homework, at least you're trying to figure it out and get it in on time. I would rather have that than a kid who's just like whatever, I'll just right right. So I'm not promoting cheating. I got expelled from cheating from high school. But if if just you have the mindset to get it done, try to get it done again. On this podcast, I feel the need now to say the disclaimer that we are not professionals in raising children, nor do we act as if we are professionals in raising children. Uh, please take another advice into your own life, Sam, and like, I don't want to take more of your time. But this was awesome, dude, buddy, I'm happy for you. Guys. Is that great thing? It was so much so much, so much fun. We asked one question to everyone at the end, Joe, why don't you ask it? Well, I mean, Oliver kind of touched on it earlier. But if there's one thing that that you kind of took from your dad that that you see now in yourself as a dad to your two girls, you know, what is it that you're glad you took from him? And what is it that you took from him that you wish maybe hadn't been passed on? Okay, that's good, that's good. Well, I know one thing that I felt about my dad that they feel about me is I'm always on the side, for sure. They do know that now matter what was going wrong with me, if other kids didn't like me, all of a sudden, I definitely felt like, well, this guy loves me. And I think my two kids got that for sure. They're like, you know, Mommy and Daddy, without a doubt, we would do anything for their up this, even even when I act insane. Then like in thirty seconds, he's gonna be normal again. Uh So I got that and my and and something I got from my dad too, that fucking hot moment of going bananas. I let it go pretty quick too, pretty goad. My father was always like that. I'd be like, holy shit, he's on a fucking tear right now. And then a minute later he'd be laughing at me and like, you see how quick you ran? You know that kind of stuff. I've been there, and then we turned into a joke. So I got that and Ship, and I don't know what I I don't think I took anything from him that uh that I shouldn't have taken one. One thing I wish I got was he was a little more patient than me, patient of me, I get a little with teaching and Ship, I definitely I'm just like, let's go way. I told you you gotta do this. This isn't it Like with the guitar and stuff. I'm just like I told you to. Pinky used to Picky, what do you use the third finger for? It said that four times already, and my kids like, oh my god. In the same way. I'm the same way. It's just the word I. I coached my kids in basketball, both girls in basketball, and they were like, why do you only yell at me Dad? I'm like, because I will get arrested if I yell at any one of your teammates. You're you belong to me, so I'm lighting you up so that the other kids see what you're supposed to be doing. But that's yeah, the same way. Like it's three times too. You know you know what three times two is. I don't get it. Just say it, Uh say it. You're You're Kennison and back to school. That's right, I know, have it? Have it three times two and you see it delay and just like, well you gotta know that totally. God, I just want to I just wanted all to not go to school, Like I can't even deal with the stress that I'm feeling with with all schoolship. Man. Yeah, I just want to say one thing before Oliver says goodbye, because you guys are long friends. But the one thing that comes through Adam in everything, not just the authenticity and who you are on screen or whether it's big screen, little screen, but but the word loyal. Every every every bit of research we have on you, and when they go to quotes from anybody that's been in your life, the word loyal comes out. And and now knowing your story, I feel like that comes from your mom and dad, and that comes from this sense of family and you have the sense of family and good for you, especially in the city where you are, in the business that you're in. Loyalty is uh I would imagine a rare commodity. So it's it's been a pleasure watching you over these years. And I can't thank you enough for for coming on. Thank you. I love your show, guys. I'm happy for both of you. This is a great, great thing. I hope everyone comes on and talks to you. Thank you, m I love you, Sam. 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