“Payback is if a person stabs you, then you do the same thing. If I stabbed her then she’ll stab me, fifty-to-fifty. Like if I had sex with her husband then she will do the same thing with my husband.”

In this episode, meet Serafina and Noelene, who are doing time because of payback and find out how revenge shapes life in prison.

Payback is the fourth episode of BIRDS EYE VIEW, a magazine-style podcast that gives you a new perspective on women in prison. BIRDS EYE VIEW was co-created with women inside the Darwin Correctional Centre and is presented by StoryProjects.

Feature storytellers: Serafina and Noelene
Contributions: Sylvia, Noelene, Kaye, Aimee, Kelly-Anne, Bianca, Trisha, Kiara, Brooklyn, Taise, Rocket, Deanne, Jessica, Naomi, Serafina, Julie, Tegan, Joan, Philomena, Yasmin, Sofi, Kirsty-Louise, Jessee, Beccy, Gillian, Karen, Kym, Tara and Ashley.
Executive production: Johanna Bell
Production: Cinnamon Nippard, Leah Sanderson and Johanna Bell
Mixing: Hamish Robertson from Tall Tale Audio
Music coordination: Ben Andrews
Theme music: 'Worth It' by Caiti Baker
Featuring music by: Caiti Baker, Casii Williams, Stevie Jean, Soorkia, Ripple Effect, Eleanor Dixon, Shana Ray, Dhapanbal Yunupingu and Kardajala Kirridarra 
(full music credits)
Online production: Jess Ong
Legal advice: Kathryn Wilson
Graphic and web design: Celia Neilson

Please note that this podcast contains material that may be disturbing, especially for survivors of trauma. Aboriginal and Torres Strait people are advised that the story may contain the names and voices of people who have passed away.