On Big Lives, we're interested not just in the story of the icons we cover, but also on the impact they have on the world around them. And when it comes to George Harrison, his legacy has continued to evolve. So we're sharing an episode today from Hit Parade, Slate's podcast about pop-chart history and music analysis. Host Chris Molanphy shines a light on “Here Comes the Sun,” the George Harrison deep cut from Abbey Road that, in the streaming era, has emerged as the most enduring—and most popular—Beatles song of all time. 

In the 1960s, the Beatles were defined by the success of the Lennon-McCartney songwriting partnership. But in the digital era, we discovered that the Fab Four’s most popular song wasn’t written by John or Paul. In fact, it had never been a chart hit—it wasn’t even released as a single.

Find more from Hit Parade wherever you get podcasts.

On Big Lives, we're interested not just in the story of the icons we cover, but also on the impact they have on the world around them. And when it comes to George Harrison, his legacy has continued to evolve. So we're sharing an episode today from Hit Parade, Slate's podcast about pop-chart history and music analysis. Host Chris Molanphy shines a light on &ldquo;Here Comes the Sun,&rdquo; the George Harrison deep cut from Abbey Road that, in the streaming era, has emerged as the most enduring&mdash;and most popular&mdash;Beatles song of all time.&nbsp;
In the 1960s, the Beatles were defined by the success of the Lennon-McCartney songwriting partnership. But in the digital era, we discovered that the Fab Four&rsquo;s most popular song wasn&rsquo;t written by John or Paul. In fact, it had never been a chart hit&mdash;it wasn&rsquo;t even released as a single.
Find more from Hit Parade wherever you get podcasts.

From Hit Parade: The Harrisong Edition

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Why is Madonna one of the most controversial pop stars of all time? Before cancel culture and social media outrage, Madonna was already at the centre of America's biggest culture wars. Hosts Kai and Emmanuel sit down with writer and Scamfluencers host Scaachi Koul to explore Madonna's most defining controversies, from Like a Prayer to the infamous Sex book, and reveal how she turned feminism, sexuality, and provocation into cultural power. A must-listen for fans of pop history, music, and feminism.

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Why is Madonna one of the most controversial pop stars of all time? Before cancel culture and social media outrage, Madonna was already at the centre of America's biggest culture wars. Hosts Kai and Emmanuel sit down with writer and Scamfluencers host Scaachi Koul to explore Madonna's most defining controversies, from Like a Prayer to the infamous Sex book, and reveal how she turned feminism, sexuality, and provocation into cultural power. A must-listen for fans of pop history, music, and feminism.
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How Madonna Started a Culture War

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Who was the real James Baldwin, beyond the famous speeches and viral quotes? Hosts Kai and Emmanuel are joined by biographer Nicholas Boggs to explore the life and legacy of one of America's greatest writers. From his friendships and romances to his fiercest political battles and literary triumphs, discover how a Black, queer writer became one of the sharpest observers of America and its contradictions.

James Baldwin: A Love Story by Nicholas Boggs is out now in paperback

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Who was the real James Baldwin, beyond the famous speeches and viral quotes? Hosts Kai and Emmanuel are joined by biographer Nicholas Boggs to explore the life and legacy of one of America's greatest writers. From his friendships and romances to his fiercest political battles and literary triumphs, discover how a Black, queer writer became one of the sharpest observers of America and its contradictions.
James Baldwin: A Love Story by Nicholas Boggs is out now in paperback
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James Baldwin: Love, Identity and the Truth Behind an American Icon

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The new Odyssey movie was just released, with a star-studded cast including Tom Holland, Zendaya, Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway and Robert Pattison. If you’re a fan of fantastical myths and legends, heroes behaving badly, ancient Greek culture and want to know more about Homer’s epic poems that have inspired countless writers, artists and filmmakers for centuries, look no further than this episode of You’re Dead To Me from the BBC - the comedy podcast that takes history seriously.

Host Greg Jenner is joined in ancient Greece by historian Dr Emily Hauser and comedian and actor Kiell Smith-Bynoe to learn about the Iliad and Odyssey. Traditionally attributed to the poet Homer, these works tell parts of a legend that has fascinated us for centuries: the story of the Trojan War. Featuring a cast of unforgettable characters – Achilles, Odysseus, Paris, Helen, Hector and Agamemnon – the war between ancient Greece and Troy has inspired writers, artists and filmmakers for over a millenium. But the Iliad and Odyssey only recount episodes of this much bigger story.

In this episode, Greg and his guests trace the origins of the poems in the 8th century BCE, looking at whether Homer really wrote them and how these originally oral tales came to be written down, before exploring the fantastical tales they tell. Along the way, we also look at whether or not the Trojan war really happened, how the ancient Greeks defined heroism, and examine the role of gods and monsters in the poems and the lives of their heroes.

You’re Dead To Me is the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Every episode, Greg Jenner brings together the best names in history and comedy to learn and laugh about the past. They have just launched a new season, so find more episodes of You’re Dead To Me wherever you get your podcasts.

The new Odyssey movie was just released, with a star-studded cast including Tom Holland, Zendaya, Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway and Robert Pattison. If you&rsquo;re a fan of fantastical myths and legends, heroes behaving badly, ancient Greek culture and want to know more about Homer&rsquo;s epic poems that have inspired countless writers, artists and filmmakers for centuries, look no further than this episode of You&rsquo;re Dead To Me from the BBC - the comedy podcast that takes history seriously.
Host Greg Jenner is joined in ancient Greece by historian Dr Emily Hauser and comedian and actor Kiell Smith-Bynoe to learn about the Iliad and Odyssey. Traditionally attributed to the poet Homer, these works tell parts of a legend that has fascinated us for centuries: the story of the Trojan War. Featuring a cast of unforgettable characters &ndash; Achilles, Odysseus, Paris, Helen, Hector and Agamemnon &ndash; the war between ancient Greece and Troy has inspired writers, artists and filmmakers for over a millenium. But the Iliad and Odyssey only recount episodes of this much bigger story.
In this episode, Greg and his guests trace the origins of the poems in the 8th century BCE, looking at whether Homer really wrote them and how these originally oral tales came to be written down, before exploring the fantastical tales they tell. Along the way, we also look at whether or not the Trojan war really happened, how the ancient Greeks defined heroism, and examine the role of gods and monsters in the poems and the lives of their heroes.
You&rsquo;re Dead To Me is the comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Every episode, Greg Jenner brings together the best names in history and comedy to learn and laugh about the past. They have just launched a new season, so find more episodes of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/youre-dead-to-me/id1479973402">You&rsquo;re Dead To Me</a> wherever you get your podcasts.

From You’re Dead To Me: Iliad and The Odyssey

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We trace Tina Turner's journey from the cotton fields of Nutbush, Tennessee to global superstardom. We dig into the abuse that nearly ended her career, her extraordinary reinvention, and the overlooked influence she and other Black women had on a genre that too often erased them. This is the real story of one of music's most powerful voices,  and the legacy the industry tried to forget.

Additional archive:  Simply The Best, Capitol Records, 1991

River Deep Mountain High, Philles Records, 1966

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We trace Tina Turner's journey from the cotton fields of Nutbush, Tennessee to global superstardom. We dig into the abuse that nearly ended her career, her extraordinary reinvention, and the overlooked influence she and other Black women had on a genre that too often erased them. This is the real story of one of music's most powerful voices,&nbsp; and the legacy the industry tried to forget.
Additional archive:&nbsp; Simply The Best, Capitol Records, 1991
River Deep Mountain High, Philles Records, 1966
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How Tina Turner Built Rock 'n' Roll (And Got Left Out of It)

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Lauryn Hill is a generational voice, a cultural lightning rod, and one of music’s biggest what-ifs. This time, we're joined by NPR’s Code Switch host B.A. Parker to unpack the meteoric rise of the Fugees frontwoman, Lauryn Hill, and the intense pressures that pushed one of hip-hop and R&B's brightest stars out of the spotlight. From Grammy-winning highs to the questions that still surround her, we explore why Lauryn Hill's influence continues to shape hip-hop, soul, and pop today.

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Lauryn Hill is a generational voice, a cultural lightning rod, and one of music&rsquo;s biggest what-ifs. This time, we're joined by NPR&rsquo;s Code Switch host B.A. Parker to unpack the meteoric rise of the Fugees frontwoman, Lauryn Hill, and the intense pressures that pushed one of hip-hop and R&amp;B's brightest stars out of the spotlight. From Grammy-winning highs to the questions that still surround her, we explore why Lauryn Hill's influence continues to shape hip-hop, soul, and pop today.
Listen and subscribe to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/big-lives/id1877935081">Big Lives</a> for more deep dives into the artists who defined a generation.
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Lauryn Hill: The Miseducation, The Fugees and Her Enduring Legacy

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David and Victoria Beckham weren't always the untouchable power couple we know today. In 1998, David was public enemy number one after a red card cost England the World Cup. So how did the Beckhams go from national villains to a global billion-dollar brand?

We break down the Beckham playbook: how David and Victoria used humor, honesty, and razor-sharp media instincts to rewrite their story, survive relentless tabloid scrutiny, and build an empire spanning football, fashion, music, and celebrity culture. From World Cup backlash to billionaire status, this is the story of image, reinvention, and the making of modern celebrity power.

Additional archive: Ali G, Comic Relief, 2001

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David and Victoria Beckham weren't always the untouchable power couple we know today. In 1998, David was public enemy number one after a red card cost England the World Cup. So how did the Beckhams go from national villains to a global billion-dollar brand?
We break down the Beckham playbook: how David and Victoria used humor, honesty, and razor-sharp media instincts to rewrite their story, survive relentless tabloid scrutiny, and build an empire spanning football, fashion, music, and celebrity culture. From World Cup backlash to billionaire status, this is the story of image, reinvention, and the making of modern celebrity power.
Additional archive: Ali G, Comic Relief, 2001
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The Beckhams: From World Cup Villain to Billionaire Power Couple

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Sharing Malcolm Gladwell’s latest project, featuring our very own Kai Wright: a podcast called Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise. 

Imagine a time when the United States was split in two. And then had to put itself back together. 

It was a time of chaos and sometimes violence as millions of people fought for the right to become citizens. Americans struggled over questions like: who gets to be a citizen? Who has the right to vote? To own property? In short, who belongs? This was Reconconstruction… the era following the Civil War. When Americans ended slavery and expanded voting rights. But none of this was easy. Many people consider the promise of Reconstruction unfulfilled. Why?

In this episode, Kai shares the story of the legendary abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass and how he navigated a world without Abraham Lincoln.   

Find Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise on Audible or wherever you get podcasts.

Sharing Malcolm Gladwell&rsquo;s latest project, featuring our very own Kai Wright: a podcast called Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise.&nbsp;
Imagine a time when the United States was split in two. And then had to put itself back together.&nbsp;
It was a time of chaos and sometimes violence as millions of people fought for the right to become citizens. Americans struggled over questions like: who gets to be a citizen? Who has the right to vote? To own property? In short, who belongs? This was Reconconstruction&hellip; the era following the Civil War. When Americans ended slavery and expanded voting rights. But none of this was easy. Many people consider the promise of Reconstruction unfulfilled. Why?
In this episode, Kai shares the story of the legendary abolitionist leader Frederick Douglass and how he navigated a world without Abraham Lincoln.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Find Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise on Audible or&nbsp;<a href="https://lnk.to/reconstructionBL">wherever you get podcasts</a>.

From Reconstruction: The Unfinished Promise

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Sinéad O’Connor had one of the most unforgettable voices in music history and one of the most misunderstood lives. Kai and Emmanuel go beyond the "angry pop star" label and headlines to tell the real story of Sinéad O'Connor: the artist, the activist, and the icon who was right long before the world caught up. From "Nothing Compares 2 U" to her infamous 1992 Saturday Night Live moment, we explore the trauma, the artistry, and the fierce moral courage that defined her. What emerges is a portrait of a soft-spoken, deeply principled woman whose so-called controversies look a lot like clarity in hindsight.

Additional archive: Nothing Compares 2 U, Chrysalis, 1990

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Sin&eacute;ad O&rsquo;Connor had one of the most unforgettable voices in music history and one of the most misunderstood lives. Kai and Emmanuel go beyond the "angry pop star" label and headlines to tell the real story of Sin&eacute;ad O'Connor: the artist, the activist, and the icon who was right long before the world caught up. From "Nothing Compares 2 U" to her infamous 1992 Saturday Night Live moment, we explore the trauma, the artistry, and the fierce moral courage that defined her. What emerges is a portrait of a soft-spoken, deeply principled woman whose so-called controversies look a lot like clarity in hindsight.
Additional archive: Nothing Compares 2 U, Chrysalis, 1990
Saturday Night Live, NBC, 1992
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Sinéad O’Connor: The Story Behind the Icon and the Outrage

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This Juneteenth, in the wake of the Supreme Court’s seismic rulings on voting rights, Emmanuel and Kai talk about the legacy of one man: Jesse Jackson. We trace his journey from teenage activist to Martin Luther King Jr.’s inner circle to building a political movement that reshaped America. Along the way: the ambition, conflict, and vision behind one of the most complex figures in Black politics. 

Additional archive: Hosea Williams interview

In this episode, you'll learn about:
Jesse Jackson's early years as a civil rights activist
His pivotal role in Martin Luther King Jr.'s inner circle
How he built a grassroots political movement
The ambition, controversy, and vision that defined his legacy
What Jackson's story means for Black politics today

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This Juneteenth, in the wake of the Supreme Court&rsquo;s seismic rulings on voting rights, Emmanuel and Kai talk about the legacy of one man: Jesse Jackson. We trace his journey from teenage activist to Martin Luther King Jr.&rsquo;s inner circle to building a political movement that reshaped America. Along the way: the ambition, conflict, and vision behind one of the most complex figures in Black politics.&nbsp;
Additional archive: Hosea Williams interview
In this episode, you'll learn about:
<ul>
<li>Jesse Jackson's early years as a civil rights activist</li>
<li>His pivotal role in Martin Luther King Jr.'s inner circle</li>
<li>How he built a grassroots political movement</li>
<li>The ambition, controversy, and vision that defined his legacy</li>
<li>What Jackson's story means for Black politics today</li>
</ul>
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Jesse Jackson and the Making of Modern Black Politics

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Every legend has a twist. From pop culture icons to music and comedy greats, award-winning journalists Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi dig into the BBC archive to unpick the story behind the icons who shape our culture.

Each week on Big Lives, Kai and Emmanuel take an iconic figure — from musical trailblazers like David Bowie, Amy Winehouse and Tina Turner to stars of the screen like Richard Pryor, Meg Ryan and Jane Fonda — and dissect their lives. Join them as they see these icons in a new light, uncover deep cuts from the BBC's archive, and learn how each legend set the stage for our contemporary cultural landscape. 

After all, you can't understand today's culture until you understand the icons who built it. Smart, curious, and full of heart.

The Guardian: "A smart and chatty show"

The Telegraph: "Presenters sift wittily through the BBC archive"

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Every legend has a twist. From pop culture icons to music and comedy greats, award-winning journalists Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi dig into the BBC archive to unpick the story behind the icons who shape our culture.
Each week on Big Lives, Kai and Emmanuel take an iconic figure &mdash; from musical trailblazers like David Bowie, Amy Winehouse and Tina Turner to stars of the screen like Richard Pryor, Meg Ryan and Jane Fonda &mdash; and dissect their lives. Join them as they see these icons in a new light, uncover deep cuts from the BBC's archive, and learn how each legend set the stage for our contemporary cultural landscape.&nbsp; After all, you can't understand today's culture until you understand the icons who built it. Smart, curious, and full of heart.
The Guardian: "A smart and chatty show"
The Telegraph: "Presenters sift wittily through the BBC archive"
Listen ad-free with a Pushkin+ subscription. Sign up on the Big Lives show page on Apple Podcasts or at pushkin.fm/plus. Subscribe to BBC on Apple Podcasts and on BBC.com.

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Every legend has a twist. From pop culture icons to music and comedy greats, award-winning journalists Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi dig into the BBC archive to unpick the story behind the icons who shape our culture.
Each week on Big Lives, Kai and Emmanuel take an iconic figure — from musical trailblazers like David Bowie, Amy Winehouse and Tina Turner to stars of the screen like Richard Pryor, Meg Ryan and Jane Fonda — and dissect their lives. Join them as they see these icons in a new light, uncover deep cuts from the BBC's archive, and learn how each legend set the stage for our contemporary cultural landscape. 

After all, you can't understand today's culture until you understand the icons who built it. Smart, curious, and full of heart. 

From Pushkin Industries and BBC Studios, Big Lives drops new episodes on Mondays.

Every legend has a twist. From pop culture icons to music and comedy greats, award-winning journalists Kai Wright and Emmanuel Dzotsi dig into the BBC archive to unpick the story behind the icons who shape our culture. Each week on Big Lives, Kai and Emmanuel take an iconic figure &mdash; from musical trailblazers like David Bowie, Amy Winehouse and Tina Turner to stars of the screen like Richard Pryor, Meg Ryan and Jane Fonda &mdash; and dissect their lives. Join them as they see these icons in a new light, uncover deep cuts from the BBC's archive, and learn how each legend set the stage for our contemporary cultural landscape.&nbsp; After all, you can't understand today's culture until you understand the icons who built it. Smart, curious, and full of heart.&nbsp; From Pushkin Industries and BBC Studios, Big Lives drops new episodes on Mondays.

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