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The Black Fat Fem Podcast is a production of iHeartRadio and Doctor Sean Paul LLC. Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of the Black Bet Fem Podcast where all the intersections of it into are celebrated. I'm one of your hosts, John Paul, and I would like to know who the hell do I have to call to get folks on the West Coast to carry blue bonne and ice cream, because you know, it's it's a travesty. It's a travesty that Joe. Have you ever had blue bonnet ice cream?
I'm having the fiercely google. So who the fuck is blue bond ice cream?
My god, oh my god? Blue bon.
Oh my god? Is high quality? Is high qual?
T t e A. It is the best ice cream I have ever had in my life. And see, and keep in mind there is a handles over by where I live. I got handles all the time, you know, threefties. You know, ain't nobody touch blue bonnet. I don't. It's just it's just she's that girl. She is that girl. The flavors just to taste the creaminess. It's just it gives every time. And I also want to I want to talk about I was promised Bojangles on this side too, niggas be lying, I ain't seen. I want bow Jangles out here on the on the west coast. What is this? What is this? It's my money and I need it now. I want my blue job and I want my bow Jangles that I have been promised. I have been promised. I want it now. But anyway, Queen Jojo, how are you?
Do you know?
I just I feel like I feel like all all the two syllable foods just are not hopping blue bonnet Bojangles, like the just are not happening.
This is not happening for you, and I'm mad for you.
I write alongside you because I want to travel Jingles Shouble all the time.
And I'm like, I want when it opens in La Joe. We're gonna record our episode from here.
We're listen listen from corporate. Guess what we're gonna work period. I love that now.
Is there a bonnet in the logo?
Like?
Why is it called blue?
I don't know logo, I don't know. I had it one. I went to North Carolina and I was sold.
Okay, I'm like, bonnet, that's a that's a very you know, particular word like for different community, so to boon it because.
They were Amish, because yeah, yeah, I need to know moves in the bonnet. Ire this ship for me. That's all. Besides that fam is Jordan or Joe.
If you're a homophone, that's a homophone homophone, because I don't homophones the first place.
I'm here for you, girl.
And I just say, hell, it was a homophone.
You know, I had no idea.
I'm sure it's some English grammar thing right, it's like like you know what like a like like homonym homophone.
I made notes in our show flow and thought it was homophobe, and I was like, yeah, that makes something, okay, homophone each of two or more words having the same pronunciation between meetings origins, orgine, you and new New Yes, yeah, okay, all right. I'm not a journey for us. I love it for all the homophones out there also all you know, all the homos too. We love us some homos around here, and we want to say that we are celebrating you. We know that this week has been hard for everybody. These last couple of weeks have been hard everybody, but we definitely want to say that we are celebrating everybody, uh that that that is here listening to us. But with that being said, we are very excited for us to introduce our guests this week. Now. We haven't had you know, we we We've had some icons around here that have come, you know and set in our third seat. But we got another bright star who I have who I have coined the iconic influencer Landscaper. They just doing all the things. They've been making waves with their joyful content and I'm so grateful that our paths have crawled. You've seen them on TikTok making us laugh with their quick witted videos and just good sisterhood. They're just they you could just tell they're just a really good person. You have seen them on stage, You've seen them hosting for popular shows. One of their very popular TikTok shows is Gatar Funny as funny as hell, just funny as all get out. I love how quick people like how just they take them off guard. It's just so fun. I have the pleasure to write about them for Intermore earlier this year, and I'm just so glad that they could be on the show. Please give it up to Anna and Nyah. How are you today, my love?
Yo?
Yay, we did it, Joe, Joe, we didn't do it.
My word of the week has been uncomfortable, especially after the election, Like I've just been something's been off with my soul, something shifted, something shifted.
I'm comfortable. Yes, really, yes, that's very it. That's very much what it's give me. This whole entire life is just a comfortable And now you got monkeys running around self CareLine and the bird flowing us. It's just.
I read this speaking of monkeys. This is so random, but I have a HD. I saw this thing. I was like, monkeys and gorillas have been speaking in as l for years now, but they've never asked a question.
They said. They said, girl, I have nothing. I get it, I get it. This This is what said.
Oh when it's too can I say that throw her hat from a grill?
Yeah, we were up to.
Was given an ultimatum, and she she was given to like I don't know what it was. It was like it was a pile of food that had face on it and a pile of food that had Trump's face on it, and she ate Trump's cake.
Was going to win, right, and the next was gonna win. I think the Russians got to Moodang. I really do.
I think that all Judd, you Russians got you have read, you have rode for Moo Dane for weeks. I cannot believe you would tell her this. She is a child, she nobody, Yet you go throw her to the bus.
I think she should have been more responsible with her platform.
She she should have and said I have I'm not giving a comment on part hold on.
So she now could we interpret possibly that she ate the Trump cake because she hated him, that she hated like that, not that she's a groundhart, but that she ate it because she hates Trump.
They could have happened the thing. Can we give the dang what cake?
Who was gonna win? They asked mu dang who was gonna win?
Hippos?
So it really really do it?
Really well? I cannot do this?
Okay, Well, as we suddle, as we settle you and I into the hot seat today, we don't care. We don't kick out my should we do every week and give ours to miss Sasha Campbell with our still Here segment?
Every day is still here? Question? We have two.
Controversial ones for y'all, And I mean I guess not countroversial as Mu dang r.
But what is.
What is an underrated white bomb for you? In a ray of black for you now? A first pass John the Apostle to you and I, But that's you know me and me and you than be John. So my underrated white bob is that song My Love by just Glynn, not both her acoustic version and in the pop version. Now, and I know I saw a video of you saying that white folks snap with that. What that was someone's saying was an omen or was the last boy Sam Smith? But you have compared to rather Be by Clean bandon which also features just w That's what girl can sing. That white girl can sing, okay the the way here girl, That girl can sing. And I said, no, what just lin underrated? People don't give her a flyer for the voice that she got. The vocals are vocally am over.
Well okay, that's all we can sing because we don't want to get in troubled.
So my my now, my my red black bot. Don't listen. I do love the song and I will sing it if it's on, but I'm tired. Everyone has this one ever played list about love and that's just let me Love You by Mario. I just so this is my thing.
So listen, you're basically asking a girl to cheat on her man with you. And yes, I know her may not her may not treating her right, and I get that, But Mario didn't. Mom didn't say leave your man.
Come to me.
He just said let me love you while you still in this and that to me and then saying that's what you need baby.
First of all, how do you know what she needs? You don't know?
Did we see the music video? Did we see the visuals? So?
Yes? And I'm you know, and I am separating the artist from the r on this one, this one my lyrics alone, No no.
And and also again I love the song, but I feel like sometimes like it be comes I was saying it, yes, but sometimes I'm like, y'all, we do not need to stop this hard for this man, Like it's not it's not about for me, but the that's just making two people.
I'm not trying to be shady. Do people really go that hard for Mario? No?
But for that song, well, I don't mean him, so I think Mario had his moment.
I do know.
I feel like I don't know. I couldn't say a title of his songs, but I probably do know. I probably one song to come back when he was in Rent Live.
He tried to come back. He played with Rent Live and listen, he has a great voice. I just I just don't know.
He didn't he he didn't bring his Bride as a movie, which which is unfortunate.
But people really arrived for the stall, and that's what I'm saying.
Also, what a terrible marketing strategy because I'm going, you know, I'm not going. I'm not.
R and B. Yeah, I'm okay, I'm just I yes, yes, but that's just me about you.
Okay. So is the prompt is underrated white bop and underrated? Yes, yes, overratable, overrated black pop? Okay, I love black people down it really it really do be your own? Okay, you said it. My underrated white pop is probably rather Be. I think it's like the perfect example of a pop song like I think everyone, I think everyone is trying to get to rather Be. And it's not even about I mean, she has a great voice, but it's not insane. It's about how effective every second of that song hits. It changed pop, It changed pop, like she's girls Sick Sick?
Yes, yeah, did.
Rated black bop?
Oh?
I couldn't.
I couldn't.
I do like the song again now, but I really couldn't get into what's the one with? I know he's not black, but it was Bruno Mars and Cardi B. What was that song?
Oh?
That me?
Is it please song?
Or was it Hu? Yeah?
Yeah, I could not stand that song for a while. It was just everywhere.
I love that you chose A.
I was, okay, I love that you chose A made a non black, non black musician. Mars obviously counts, but I was like, okay, you said I shall not pay bibles against each other.
Well, I was thinking more so for the culture that song is really.
Let's just okay it is. You're right?
Is that man does not have a white man as a reference at all? Bruno Mars. I feel like Mars hasn't even seen a white person.
Do they do they exist to him?
I don't know.
Elvis maybe, but he.
Very much give.
Right.
So Elvis did steal it from black people. Let's make that very clear. Check the material, yes, let's check the material. Yes, yes. So as for me, so I'm just gonna say this, I believe and it still makes me very sad that now Natalie and Brulia's Wrong Impression did not get the timing and the support that it deserves. That song is fire. If you've never heard it, listen to it. Natalie and BRUI is wrong Impression. She's the girl who sang torn remember torn things. I'm I'm a little late. This is how I feel a song called wrong Impression, and it is, in my in my opinion, one of the best, like the just the instrumentation of the song. You know, I love music instrumentation of the song, from the violin, the chords, to the way that key changes. There's there's multiple key changes in the song, and it's just a very beautiful, beautiful, beautiful song. It really should have been grabbing nominated, and it did not get it's It did not get its time. So I'm gonna say now the song that I absolutely think is overrated that I literally will burn down a building to not hear is this is how we do it by Mom Tel Jordan, I.
Fucking damn song going to give you another lyric in that song.
I hate that song with a deep seated like every time I hear it, I literally my really is the worst, the most overrated.
This is how wow, that's He's just like, that's.
No. Nobody wants truer. Nobody wants to get their room before you get Yes, have us I've ever heard in my life, and let's talk about this. Nobody wants to get their room one on Friday. We have had a long week. We are tired. Niggas want to go to bed. I want to lay down far away from you singing anything about this. No, how how we do it, I'm going to bed. I'm done.
I have a new vocal stem this week.
Yes, a new vocal step. I'm god, I'm god.
I will say if I give that song on a Friday, I do get perturbed. I'm like, why is on Saturday or Someday? He says, Friday night? Like, why would only only hits on Friday night?
Song?
Is it?
Sexy? Red of seven p five degrees?
I ain't got no nigga, nigga.
You can long on Friday?
Yes, correct, Yes, songs about dates?
Why do on Sunday? I love? But the Sunday song is gonna be saved for her song with Kurk Friklin.
I'm just okay, I'm gone off the Rocks here talking about sexty reds. So with that, he told you how we really feel. You probably are getting ready to turn this episode off. We've got to take a short break and pay some bills. When we come back, we are going to Kiki with our good sister, a walking legend about what it means to be uh an artiste in using art as a resistance. Will be back in a second, this says, and I hate it, and we are black fam and we are excited to get into a rich conversation with our girl and Anayah about art as resistance. So we're gonna talk about multiple things while we are here, but the one thing that we definitely wanted to talk about with them is really thinking about this idea of like how folks kind of use their art to express themselves differently. We know our guests here's no exception essentially, you know, really thinking about gen Z artists paving the way and the path forward, specifically against oppression. And I'm thinking, you know, I keep thinking about something I've been thinking a lot about since you know, everything came down with you know, the what do you call that? With the the election. I keep thinking about Tony Morrison's quote about this idea of like, now, in these moments, this is the time for us to be the most artistique, to really get into our art and use our art to really help liberate people. And so I guess what I really wanted to start with is that I know that you, in your mind didn't start off with your stuff trying to be art per se, right, but there is art to what you do and how you do it. So when you saw that the space was missing online for fun, relatable, you know, quick witted, you know, just kind of like real, just real good judy content, what made you feel like you had to be the person to feel bad?
Well, I feel like I'm coming from a place of I was an artist first, and then I saw that there was a need for people to be like as authentic as they could in a way. And I think I love my manager so much because they always say this, They say, I'm an artist that has to make content, rather than I'm a content creator who's trying to be an artist, you know what I mean. I always wanted to like let people know that whatever they're going through is not something that is specific, It's not something that is like damning it's not something that they can't get through, you know what I mean. And I know when I was like transitioning from like oh well just going from college to not going to college, like graduating, That's what I meant. I know when I was graduating college, like when I was in like junior year or senior year, I felt like really alone a lot of the time, and honestly, like this is so dumb and it's so gen z. But like getting online and seeing people like me, like going through stuff and being honest and like figuring out how to be an adult, how to be themselves, like how to take away like the pressures that they had when they were in childhood, and like all these different things that I've felt supported, And I felt like, not only could I add to the conversation, I wanted to support other people who wanted to as well.
Yeah that's really dope. That's really really dope.
You know, I think part of your charm, of the charm of your content is that you usually share about the conversations like we're all thinking of to ourselves, which I really like value a lot. Like a lot of times I what's in your videos? I'm like, I had a conversation myself all the time. I just never like do it out loud, and you do it in such a light and true way. But like it's also vulnerable and like I want to be like I want of knowledge. Being vulnerable online at a young age is not easier es especially today, especially in this world, especially in this climate, especially with the results of our our elections.
So I'm curious as like what keeps you motivated to do it.
I think it's the people who follow me, Like I really do have fun like interacting with people in my comment section and stuff like that. Also the friends that I've made that are also creators, like keep me inspired and keep me saying I guess yeah, I think it's definitely the people that I'm doing it for that make me feel inspired and like I'm safe to do so. I think the thing with vulnerability is like and like trying to keep like a lighter tone on my page, which I do like quote unquote like sober up and like, you know, this is serious, this is what we should do, like pay attention to this. But I think I try to keep a relative happy tone because I've just been through so much and like at a certain point it's like, I don't want to be my circumstances. I want to this is who I want to be, and I'm gonna I'm going to tell you who I am rather than you know, let these things that happened to me determine like how I proceed. You know, I think it's I think I'm because of my circumstances and not and I think I'm in spite of my circumstances and not because of them.
Ooh, I want to say I love you saying that, because I think that's like, it's such a I think it's such a uniquely like a uniquely queer and black experience to show up in that way, to be able to say, like, I'm not going to let the circumstances like like of of of my life define me and like and like and like make like make that be my whole personality. Like I'm actually able to use to create something else with it. I think that is like that it's just a huge testament to like what being black and queer and black and like and and being black and queer at the same time or the black we're in trans and no matter like being that at the same time, and it's actually is like that's a testament of the magic that we have.
Yeah, answer, And if.
I can add something to that too, I would. I would say, for me, I think that's a big part of what makes all of us. And I've said this so many times on the show, but I go, there's something so special about black queer people, and I think that's what makes things so healing for us. Whenever we touch something, there's this element of we're telling people how to engage with our with us, and we're leading people to understand us and to comprehend us.
Right.
We're telling people and again I talk a lot about this in my book, right, telling people how to love you, telling people how they need to show up for you. I think all of that is really a big something that I believe, or at least I see, factored into your art and into your work. And I definitely say I was a fan before this, but hearing you say that, it really I don't know why, just this week for something, you know, for some reason or another, and maybe it is because of all we've been through the last couple of weeks, it just it's a lot to me in the sense of that. So thank you for that. Thank you The next thing. Yeah, yeah, I again, I always believe in giving people their flowers because I don't think we do it enough, especially to black queer creators. This this industry is so rough to us, and it is so dismissive of what we bring to the to the table. And I think it's just it's really cool to know that you're you're existing in the space. That's it's necessary. Folks need to see you.
And hear it.
But that being said, you know, we wasn't gonna let you get up out of here without talking about your fashions, because let me tell you something, if y'all don't follow the baby on TikTok, if there's one thing mother is going to do, Mother is going to dress. And I have seen you out in the hole. I have seen you. Yes, I have seen you in the winter. I have seen you. I've seen you in all the seasons. And mother looks good. And so I will say that as much as like for an R and with a lot of the stuff you do on your socials, I find that, yes there's a story. Yes you might be saying something quick witted or fun, but I feel like the fashion also is a story. Like you're still you're still saying something when you get in front of the camera. And so with that being said, I know a lot of your content features you both in and out of drag. I know a lot of it is very much fem realness. You're you're giving kind of this soft touch, and it's just it's just great to see. And so I guess I wanted to ask, what where does your sense of expression come from? How does it push you to be more free with not only just the content you create, but with people.
That's such a really that's a great question. Wow, I feel like I've been struggling a lot with like, I don't know, I feel like I've been struggling a lot with like trying to differentiate like the different parts of who I am. You know, Like it's not it's not the most simple thing to be a trans drag queen. So it's like I look like this now, but then I might do like a softer beat when I'm in my you know, my she her era, and you know, then then I do this hyper femininity when I perform and stuff. And I just think that it's a it's a little confusing, especially for people who haven't like walked with me this entire way, you know what I mean. They don't know where I'm coming from with when I meet new people and I'm like in quote unquote girl mode. You know, they think I'm in drag or there's some kind of like performance that I'm putting on, But really I'm only doing that when I'm wearing a middle park bust down and my eyes are the size of a football field, you know what I mean. Like right, it's always hard to like compartmentalize that, but I think it also adds to like my talent, like my I pride myself on, like my ability to like transform, and like makeup for me has always been like a way to express like how I'm feeling, to make me feel more confident. I always call it farmer and stuff, you know, because it's it's really like it helps. It helps like ease dysphoria, Like it gets me closer to what I feel and what I see in the mirror, you know what I mean, But also like falling in love with how I look without makeup on and without surgeries and all that kind of stuff, Like I feel like it encourages me to encourage other people to be themselves, Like and I say this all the time, but like, I want people to be okay without having to worry about like is my lace unclockable? Or how long can I get my waist and a like I need the biggest ass in the world. Like I want people to be comfortable in their own bodies. And I feel like that comes into my content where I'm like willing to just I'm willing to show myself at any stage. You know, I'm willing to show myself when I'm in high fashion, when I'm ready for the stage, or when I'm like this, or when I'm in my do rag and you know what I mean. Like, there's just things that I'm I'm willing to compromise on to show people that you know, you don't have to present all the time. You can just speed. And I feel like a lot of people would like to see.
Yeah, especially now, yeah, especially now, Not that yeah, I didn't want to step on you. But I think you speak to something that I think we've said so many times on this show. I think social media, especially like Instagram and TikTok it has it has gotten people to believe that you always have to look a certain type of way to be to be taken seriously, you know, and I would even say it for myself. I've found in the last couple of weeks I've been doing a lot more like vocal videos. When I'm just in my bonnet and my contacts are out, I get more engagement with people who are laughing and like feeling like I guess they feel more like John is just coming to the camera versus me trying to Hey everybody, it's John and I have this thing to tell you. Like, I just think there's a certain element of real that sometimes is missing in social media world. And I love that you're saying, like, their layers to all of all of this shit, and I'm really hoping that everyone sees those layers and understands that each one of those layers are important.
I used to feel like if I wasn't in makeup, then I shouldn't make videos, And then I had to instantly nip that in the bud because I was like, Wow, I have the same exactly voice with or without this wig on, you know what I mean, like be able to make a joke and say something important and keep it pushing. Really, you know, yes, I love it.
You know, I feel like I feel like you know like you said, you said the word compromise and I and to me, I I I honestly, I honestly like I don't think it's really like a compromise or a negotiation. I think it's like I think it's actually super real to say like like I can like whatever I wear, I'm still gonna be like that girl, like whether I am dressing up like to the nines or like or I'm just gonna be and like it's like a T shirt and a T shirt and jim shorts. Like it's like like that actually has nothing. I think, to me, what went when I see with you? It's like it demonstrates that like like like the way in which you show up, like in terms of dress, like like in dress like is is only when an articulation of who you are. But like like like people people come to see you be who you are, over over anything. And I think that's really incredibly special because it became because like like I mean like yes, like yes.
Like like like like like.
When like when you have the hair on the you know, the makeup, everyone's like a girl yes, but like but no, but I like, I don't think you're compromising on yourself at all or that people see as a commonise. I think I think people actually do see it as like, oh, like I actually give myself an a given moment and like dress in any other way, in any way a gum in time, and like that will actually not change how people receive me because they because they still rop with me, they still love me, They still not a fear sas person, a funny ass person, a dope best person, and certainly like I just I.
Just I just want offer that I.
Think what you do is like such a true and real thing, especially in a world in a time where to your point, people are always trying to show show the like best selves and like girl sometimes like your but like your best stuff isn't the stuff. The best is the best stuff, like where you look in your face like you are happy to be president.
The girls who get it get it, and the girls who don't don't.
Okay, hurry, hurry, okay.
So for our for our last question in this segment, we could not have you on the show and not bring up your amazing show guitar because I because personally I love watching it and I'm so curious.
So I have two questions and then and then then ask of you, okay, like how did you how did you come up with it?
What's your process of been the questions and find like finding people for it, like walk us through how that experience is.
And then also could you can we get tastes of it?
He can we flip it to you and you give us as here. I don't want to. I don't want to reveal too much about how we do it because that's kind of the magic of it. But I do. I do ow this all too. A production company called Mutuals by Amelia mom Tooth she's she's our director, producer, you know, and Emmitt Zandberg and Roman I don't know how to say Roman's last name. Sorry, Roman, I love you. They came up with this idea to like it was at first called strapped for Cash, where we would give a dollar to someone who got a question right about queer culture or queer history. But then it evolved into what Gatar is now, where it's just like trying to entertain people while also giving them information. By the end of the episode, like it's entertainment, but it's also like you walk away with ten party facts about you know, queer history and queer culture that you didn't know before. You know, it's like this like really easy way of osmosis of just like giving people information and things that they should care about, you know, names, dates, that kind of stuff. You know. Okay, I guess I should do. You want me to just ask a couple of questions and see if we get it right?
I mean, is that is, if you're here in this protection studio, I would change.
I'll just make sure to send my rates over after the episode. But yes, I'm that's a good I'm kidding, that's not like that. But okay, I guess my first question is and we'd say this all the time because I feel like there was this one day where we asked this one question like maybe sixty times. But anyway, who was the first woman, the first trans woman to be on the cover of Time magazine was Luther and Cox?
Okay, period, it's correct.
What was Harvey Milk's job in San Francisco?
Uh?
He was? Uh?
Oh, he had a photo a photo studio.
Didn't he he was, he had a camera.
It was like Cara shop shop but his but his his role was like in uh.
Significance, I'm looking for significance. No, shade, no shade to Harvey Milk and in this camera shop.
I'm sure he was coy.
I was like mama had a camera shop. But yeah she was. She was a part of the city council.
Okay, good job.
Yeah, I know a history.
Come I think that wasn't correct. But I also don't have my card.
I'm only meet with my guards. I'm a google it.
What was it was?
It was a mayor council.
She was, so she was a politician.
They called her mayor of the Castro, but but he was not actual mayor.
You know what.
We're all though. His real job he was a city supervisor.
Supervisor basically basic council. I'll give it to you exactly.
I guess my last question what year was the progress the progress flag made? And a bonus point if you know where it's from where it was?
Yeah, uh shit, I don't know that when two thousand? It was in the two thousands, it wasn't it was the two thousand, two thousand and two thousand and four, eight, I don't know those twenty twelve.
Let me make sure I'm gonna are you talking about the wall with the arrows? Yeah, yeah, it has the brown the paint uh huh white and the intersection.
I'm gonna say twenty twelve too, and I might be lying.
I'm just going to Ingraman's of four sixteen.
I know, I thinkn Gove twenty eighteen?
Was it twenty eighteen? Really, that's the next person who created it though, right, Isn't that right?
That is correct?
Okay? I was going to say, I know, yeah, progress.
This is this is the crazy thing. And I know they're going to do this one day. They're going to switch it around and I'm going to be the guest on the show and they're going to be up set.
Okay, I can't wait.
I almost did that today, but I was like no, no, no, let's so.
You are right, joho. It was twenty eighteen. It was twenty eighteen. It was crazy, and it was Daniel Quasar who was the one who designed it for It was a it was a considered it's called the Now Gallery and it took place it was actually uh Victoria Albert's museum in London, so it actually started with with yeah four. It was actually just for display and then it was kind of taken back for folks to be able to kind of use it. So I'm here for that.
Okay, okay, okay, but people, people really get really to get tripped up on on on this question.
Yeah, I mean I think there's like so many Okay, there's a couple of things right, Like one, we shouldn't know this much information. I feel like humans just as a as a species should not be in you dated, with so much information like we have. We could know everything essentially, anything that we've learned so far as a human race, we can know. So I give grace there, But I'm also like a lot of people get a lot of misinformation. They have to unlearned a lot of things.
You know.
I feel like a lot of people don't read articles all the way through that kind of That's what it's about, you know. It's trying to teach people like to pay attention really when they're like consuming media.
Okay, amazing, amazing. Well, if I if I'm in Brooklyn, I'm gonna confine you, oh my god, yes, let me know.
Also combined you and just like kick you with you.
You're amazing. Okay, So now, thank you for thank you for indulging us. I appreciate it so very much.
Now this segment has has inspired everyone everyone listening to cut back our renaissance boy Beyonce.
Because we've all moved on too quickly from it. We're gonna take another quick break. We come back. We are going to be here with some rapifier questions for our world.
This is how we do it.
Okay, hold back a laugh, and we are back, like Trump with the concept of a plan.
What's your plan? You have a concept? To me, absolutely planning.
This whole shows the concept that plant.
The idea of massaging. Because if Coma ever said I have a concept, we would have eaten her alive.
They said.
The fact that she was the most qualified like elect ever in the ever of the country ever, and she the only person the concept of the plan.
She so pause before we jump into our second. She has held a job at every single level of any type of federal You can't like, there are three different levels, and she's had all three of those jobs. My god, my god, like it just it blows my mind.
And so we put the guy who would probably forget his name on a group paper. It was just it was anyways, now that we are back, we want to take some time to ask and I asked some repifier questions to be looking to be on the lighter side of you know, life right now and have a little bit of fun.
It's not you.
I am so cool with that.
Okay.
So, so we repreferre questions and you just gotta respond to these morning person or night owl owl first you can do when you wake up.
I can't say that online. We should go to comfort food Chinese food.
Last show you binge watched Adventure Time?
I'm still watching it.
Okay, I love to see you.
Okay. Favorite season of the year, uh? Winter?
Was?
Was you the teleport or try and travel?
Teleport?
One word to describe yourself?
Okay, okay, okay. So if you can only eat one cuisine for the rest of your life, what would it be?
Cragons?
Oh?
Your taste? Favorite holiday?
Halloween?
This should be.
Good answer and did atiated? Most random thing you've googled recently?
How is thread made?
Okay? Would you rather wait? Pas?
I don't know. I got to I got too overwhelmed. I literally got too old. I was like, I get it.
How do you make threads?
That is a good question. Would you rather always be too hot or too.
Cold to gold?
Yes, you can always get cold, you can always get more, but you can navi get cold. Yeah, it's hard. It's hard when you're hot, all right. If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would it be? Oh?
God when Houston?
Mm hmm some times sometimes all right? And what is your guilty pleasure?
The smell of like old basements?
Okay, okay, my finest matches. I love the smell of some good Oh my god, yes, like this country. What is your biggest pet peeve?
When people choot with their mouths open?
Gross?
Oh okay. If you weren't what you do now, what would be? What would your dream job be?
Forensic psychology?
Oh, come on, ss I. What's the first I check in the morning?
What was the question?
It's the first app you check in.
The morning, probably Twitter?
What's your senator dance move?
I love? Like this is what it's the to the doubles.
So I have asked because and I feel so asking this, but like when is the best moment to to like to use.
This Like it's like it's the same way that you would say period, Like it's it's a it's an emphasis. You know.
Okay that thank you? Because I because when were gonna use it? I'm like, okay, like what like what's the content.
For those who are not watching you got to put you right, your two l's in your hands. For those who are not watching us, just your hand.
To your coffee tea.
Would you referred to living in a city or on the beach a city superpower that you choose?
Whatever Raven had going on?
Oh, they come.
On em to use the crying one.
The best advice you've ever received.
Oh, this is I guess it's not rapid fire, but I read this book Ocean vong on Brief on Earth were briefly gorgeous, and they were talking about how to refer to things not as violently, like when you say you ate that, you slay that, like try to find it.
I've read that, yes, like the pulling the trigger and all of that and stuff. Yeah, I've read that.
Like trying to say, you know things that possible rather than in violence.
Mm hmmmm, yes, yes. So I'm asking you just maybe one or two more. What is the last song you played?
Disease on.
Repeat?
Disease Like, yeah, I'm doing it next week.
Okay, Okay, you gotta learn it. So what is one thing you can't live without?
I don't oh, maybe like makeup? Brushes.
That's fair, very fair. I'm about my brushures on my hair, my hair. Yes, god, okay, we got two more for you. If you could switch lives with anyone for a day, who would it be and what would you do?
Paul cast me.
Okay, okay, yes, okay, and then I'm gonna cast okay.
End up maybe and tracking okay, okay.
I want everyone to know there's a rapid fire question. I will aware now I'm trying to uphold my kingdom.
My god, what is the last one? What is something you wish you were better at.
Asking for help?
Amen? Amen?
Amen, that's very much.
That's yeah, that's a real one because I'm I'm real good at drowning, and.
It's like I can do like I could do it and I could probably know better than you could.
T t That is there's a very mutual feeling until you realize that you just you're like help you, what do need? Help me? Support me? Bench until you realize that you you drowned and you're just like support me, bitch. Yes, I definitely understand that. Well, this has been fun. This is something that I want to implement with all of our guests from here on now. It's just a way to get to know you better and also just a great way for people to know you when they go over to your site and you know, and kind of engage with your stuff. So thank you for participating. And with that being said, we're gonna take our last break of the episode to come back with y'all's favorite segment, Yes ma'am and No Man Pam More in a second. All right, everybody, So y'all know how we wrap up the show around here. This is where we give people. This is our yes ma'am, No ma'am Pam segment. This is where we either give people their flowers or we hit them with them. And this week I'm gonna go ahead and start with the idea of my yes ma'am being to our ancestors for reminding us how big and how fearful the world is of us. And I say this because I know last week we had a moment where we were talking very openly and honestly about how we were all feeling around not only just the elections, but just in general the stress of being a black wear person being so visible, and I really wanted to just take a moment to kind of like reset and just say, like, as much as we are all probably I wouldn't even I mean, there's multitudes of emotions, right, some of us are scared, some of us are concerned, some of us are worried. I definitely want us to tap into this idea that our ancestors really really have taught us that we are. We literally are the power. We are the reason why people are shaking at their core. We are the reason why people want to be us in so many ways. It's I mean, why do you think our lingo is used? Right? People still our lingo, People still our style. People, people want to be us in so many different ways because of the ways that we show up in different spaces. And so I just really wanted to say, yes, thank you to you know, Audrey, thank you to James Baldwin forgiving us the language, Tony Morrison. I just all of these people have been able to help us understand what the fuck is going on around us, and it has been so I would say for me, Like I even sat with some of James Baldwin's reading this week and it really helped me make sense of how I felt around everything that's happening around us as a country. So I just really wanted to shout them out now for my no man, Pam, I wanted to say this in the same ballpark, but also not I am sick and tired of the people who are on social talking about God has all of this under control. Oh, sick of it. And I want to say it is so passive, and it is so dismissive of the fear that cis gender black women have, that trans black women have, that queer people have, that all of us, really all of us should have.
Right.
And I say this too because I recognize as much as I'm a spiritual person, I recognize not everybody believes in God. Some people believe in Buddha, some people believe There are multiple different beliefs. Christianity is not the only and I've set this time and time again on the show. There are multitudes of religion. There are Jewish people, they're Jewish niggas like, they're just multitudes of religion. And to say that God has all of this under control is very, very dismissive to immigrants who are worried about what their status is going to be come January, where they're going to live, if they're going to have their children's it just it really really, I'm just gonna say this, and I'll probably get in trouble for saying if I really don't care, we should gonna step in and make sure that I have my rights protected, because if God has everything out of control, I have questions, no shit. Right, I'm in a place right now where I'm like y'all keep saying that, and I'm tired of being your strongest warrior, Mama, Like I'm tired.
Yeah, a lot of people have to I feel like, to believe in God the way that they do, like in a way that is like harmful to others. They have to concede so much. They have to. They have to willfully. They have to willfully, they have to want to forget and to not observe how people are actually being treated. And it's like it's just so disappointing. It's so disappointing to see.
I just and so before I go on a tangent because I'm so good for it, I just really want to say I think this. I put this here for a reason. I think we all need to be extremely cognitive and mindful and amure about what we're saying to people in this moment because not everything you're tweeting. Not everything that you're saying is going to hit the way I think you're I think you think it's going to hit this, and it just it's just one of those things for me, like this is one of the things that I really don't need to hear. Also, I also want to say to why we're here, stop telling people that they can't block people for their political views, because I don't. Oh, you can't block your There are a lot of things I'm not doing now because I know that there are people around me who voted for Trump. I'm not I'm not. I'm just not gonna do it.
Not gonna do it.
And I said on the last episode, I have the right to protect my piece, and if blocking people who I feel like are harming me are is the way for me to protect that piece, That's what I'm gonna do. So yeah, that's that's it. But what about you, sis? What are your guests ma'm's and no man PAMs for this week?
Okay, give me my flowers shoe and then who am I gonna hit them with? Right?
Okay?
Okay, yes, yes.
Honestly, I'm gonna keep it. One of my friends her name is Shllen. She's also a content creator. Everyone go follow. I want to give her her flowers. She's always like, she's so consistent and honestly, whenever I see her videos, I stop. I listen, like, I like, I'll listen to a videos like a podcast, Like it's like I am like, I love, I love and I think she is severely underrated, even though she's like at the top of her game, one of the most beautiful people, one of the nicest people. And I love her, and I miss her so much, and I'm probably gonna see your friend see her again soon. I was just a really good friend. And she's like one of those people like online like that are so genuine when the camera turns off, but also so genuine when the camera is on. It's just so inspiring to see and honestly, like, I don't know who I would be as a content creator if, like, if we weren't mutual. So I love her, I love.
How do we How do we spell her name so we can make sure that we tack her in the.
I think her, I think her her at is c h A l l x N, But you spell her name c h A l l A N I think that's correct on all of her socials.
I don't know though, Hey, hey, okay, we'll find her. We will get down with our with our microscope and we will find her.
And who am I whacking?
Yes? Like the week Yes?
No, man, Pam, I don't know, can I can? Can we come back to me.
If you want to?
Yes? This weekend? This weekend, no pub at all. So my guess, Maam Pam's just gonna be well.
I know the election outcome was rough for all, and it's been about two weeks. My time is coming up. This comes out with two weeks since since then, there we we got a lot of queer wins, which is great. We have the first ever transperson in Congress. We have we have we have several court vessel color in Congress and the Senate, which is really good. So, I mean, obviously is gonna be uh strappied one way, but we saw we still up people that look like us in them seats, and that's good. You know, several states, several states you know, past pass laws that ensuring the right to marriage as well as more protections.
And it's especially good because we.
Know that with with the new administration, there's a high chance of the Supreme Court overturning a Burger Feller Stages, which was which gave us thereat to marry.
So with these with these states enshrunning them into their constitutions, I means to marry will be to those states. And so I want to say that there there's there are some several linings there, although more like like keep more like keepick Xaconia, but some linings in there for us. I know, man, Pam, it's just everyone playing the blame game. Everyone's from the blame you right now.
Everyone's mad each other for everything, and like, listen, I just want to say this is controversial, but like everyone is like at the third party voters, I'm like, listen, just I only got six hund thousand vones the entire thing. So like I'm so sorry about Actually we like we actually we actually can't blame the jill Stein people, like like they actually didn't do much at all.
Like they like who the only people we can blame are the was it.
Seventy percent of white men that have voted and it was high, like want we can blame let's Peoplet's be clear, you know, like like I mean, I mean all the people that we can blame. But like but but like if we're gonna send kind, let's just in that way of like who actually voted and then voted?
Who voted for this for this man you know? And and and also said in the instead of saying said blame pool who did not vote, and well, yes, I'm like I wish you were unvoted.
Maybe asked question as to why they didn't vote, and like understand why, like just like passing blame, won't do won't do it anything.
And y'all be y'all being sort of visip and.
As someone as someone as someone posted today, but they say they said, they said, y'all will cut something out for y'all cut some what comes out proba the voting or how they not vote.
But you won't a count your exc that has cheated on you four billion times. And I was like, well, points have been made and will keep you made at this point. So talking about y'all, okay, who have the cognit of dissonance to not to not to not to not like recognize different for themselves.
Just lee all y'all.
Mm I think I'm gonna whack my know. Pam, No, ma'am, Pam wham sham bam. I think I'm gonna have to. I'm gonna have to whack elon Musk. I gonna have to because, oh my god, like these past the past like three weeks on Twitter specifically, there was no there's not one non partisan ad like on my on my feet at all. And I feel like if if anyone interacted with a political tweet, they were getting tons and tons of Donald Trump content and and promotion and campaigning like and I just I'm so oh and and let me keep whacking. Let's let's whack the Andrew Tates. What's the broken guy, Let's let's whack him. Let's let's whack the YouTube shorts. Wait, well, Chris, Chris, can we can we you take that off? I just remember I'm on that.
Yeah, we gotta we gotta bleep that.
Yeah, let me be more specific. I'm gonna whack all the boys watching YouTube.
Maybe you're cutting out, you're getting out? Can you say that again?
Technologies against your girl?
Are you back?
Google? Chrome? Say YouTube?
What you girl?
Yeah?
You get to YouTube?
And they was like listen, no, no, Mike got her. Mike said get somebody else do it?
Am I back?
Yes, you are not you are, now, Okay, I was saying that I want to whack all the boys who are watching right wing propaganda on YouTube shorts. They definitely need to get their lash, you.
Know, you know, you want to know what's funny is if if you've been growing through Twitter. So there's two things that have been happening that people have been noticing. And it's not even just me saying it. I noticed it too before someone else said it. One, people are losing followers at massive amounts, and they're saying that's because that old boy is trying to get up all of the the and this is all What do you call that when you what do they call that stuff when people are what's the word you don't want to be? It's something that they call people when they are making like educated guesses.
What do we call that?
I'm tired? So no, well that part, but also there's a word for when you call people when they are like speculating on stuff. When people speculate conspiracy theory, that's it. I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. However, there are people who have said that the that the the profiles are disappearing because is trying to clean it up in case folks come after him. And if you notice there are no trump if you notice there's no Trump ads whatsoever, and everything is about like earning a living or like just random ads that they had prior to the elections. So yeah, it's it's it's just it's just a really.
And really quickly. I don't want to take up too much time.
But you're fine, you got the time.
Do we have thoughts on Kamala's concession, Like where you were y'all in the hopes of demanding a recount or.
I was hoping she would demand a recount. That's where my heart was.
Yes, I'm like, this question is real and I just want to like, Georgia, can we just can we just Georgia? The the the margin is two things for me to be like, this is okay. I just think okay, like like like like just run through the machine one more time.
Let's just let's.
Go for a little bit. You know. I was I was praying that we would give we count the.
Same day votes, so we count the ballance.
I have you, I have purguntasna tango mass praguntas, but don't want to answer them.
So okay, yeah, here we are like one.
I thought she would have. I thought if she maybe would have. I appreciate that she like bout out gracefully, and I'm also like, girl, I would have been like swing on the beach.
It's definitely not a binary situation. I feel the same way. I feel like I get that she's probably exhausted. You know, she probably got put on the spot, you know what I mean, And she did her best, so I get that, But I also do I do you think it's a little contradictory to say we are going to keep finding but she didn't make every avenue. Yeah, the very next day. It feels politically smart, I guess in a way, just to like to make the lesson of And she said this in her concession speech, like we will transfer power. I'm like someone who didn't do that before, you know, But I think that's I just don't know if that's effective enough. I don't know. We'll see, y'all.
Yeah, it's where like I said, it's it's it's a tough time and it's like, no matter what would have happened, and this is what I I think. I don't know if I mentioned this the last episode, but I'm gonna say it again. I said, you know, there's a part of me that that is happy that she's basically said, I'm gonna go ahead and put this down and y'all can have it, because I know she's tired. Mama was running from literally from east coast to west coast for all the one hundred and seven days. I felt like I've seen Kamala everywhere.
And so.
I know, I know she's tired, and she's still the vice president. It's not even that, it's not even whole right, She's literally still having to do her vice presidency work. So I'm like, I know she's tired, But you know the thing is, you know they and this is how I see, y'all voted for who y'all voted for, and you got what you wanted. So you know, now you got to do with the repercussions of it. And I honestly don't feel bad, like I know there's gonna be stuff that's going to impact me and personally emotionally, I'm ready for it. But at the end of the day, it's like you know, when you you know, when when you vote for who you vote for, you vote for their you know, but.
Do clown shit when clownshit happens.
If you vote for the circus to come to town, you cannot be mad when clowns get out of the car. That's literally it, so Hank Hawk, Yeah, so.
My god.
So with that being said, to wrap it up and put a little bowl on it. You know, you get what you put out, and uh hopefully you know, I hope you. I hope all these slugs you know, didn't vote to get salted on. That's all I got. That being said, Please send us your thoughts, your feedback and email. It's the blackfatfempot at gmail dot com. You know, we be round here waiting for we just we we literally be like miss Seely. You know, if for any of you who are really truly color purple fans, will miss Seely be like checking the mailbox and she like, is this something for me? That's how we be sitting around looking at our email as well. Yeah, we just be waiting.
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No.
You notice how she gave me the best song on the album.
Absolutely okay, yeah, but but still I still like there could have been more there. I'm I'm I get it, Bodyguard, I get it, ma'am, but I still Lifeguard.
I get it.
But I'm I'm gonna need I need I need more, I need more. There's just like, you're playing with us at this point. The fact that you had this birthday.
I was like, that was not a little nasty work, But okay, girl.
She's playing with us at this point, controlling us, and it's really I'm really praying that Act three is really just gonna give us everything we've been asking for and then she can finally be like, look, eat now, go away. But with that being said, Gazelle, I still got my eye on you. I love you, girl, but I'm gonna need them visuals. All right. That has been another show. This has been fun. Stay Black Fat seven fabulous, and remember we may not be a cup of tea, but drink some water. You probably need it anyway. I love us for real bad