Check it down, man, now down. Then it is a numbers game right here on a Monday morning Skill Alexander Week seventeen Guessing Lines. It's our final guessing lines of the year, tribute to the old Startust radio show of the same ILK back with Roxy Rox Borrow back in the day, where typically I'll try to guess the lines and then Christie'll tell me what he's putting up at the end of the show. But this being Week seventeen, this is squirrely, So it's basically an excuse just to talk to Christy about football for two hours because I don't know how many lines are actually are actually up. Let's bring him in. Uh he is my He runs the South Point Hotel Casino, ladies and gentlemen. He has a brand new, funky intro for guessing lines, and it goes a little something like this, yeah, yeah, all right, maybe not so brand new. We played it a couple of times before. It's Chris Andrews. Everybody runs the south Point hell to Casino. Good morning to you, Christie's how you doing? I warn you in the vance? Who is that? What music is that? Gil? Somebody I had never heard of? No No, No, I had nothing to do with that music. What was that, Jason? It was just generic. We can't hear you, Jason, generic marching Eric fired up marching band, beginning of the game music. All right, generic marching band, beginning of the game music. There you go, Chrissie us there to Okay, So I warn you in advance this by texts. Also, I could have verbal diarrhea on some of these games. And your response was good because there are there might not be lines for half of these. Yeah, I know. I mean I wrote him down last night, and you know I made my numbers. Yeah, let's this way. I put in my power ratings on every game. You know, it did the addition and subtraction necessary. But you know, still we don't know who's a lot of games, we don't know who's really playing. Who isn't h you know, coaches, just a warning coaches lie on a week like this. And the other note that I would make is sometimes needs the game is the most overrated thing in sports gambling period. Yes, if you if you, as the Great Dr Bob One said, if you're in a must win situation, you must not be that good was his comment. Is what you're saying that But The way it's set up this weekend is that the early time slot on Sunday again, no Thursday, no Saturday, know nothing before Sunday. The early time slot on Sunday are basically the teams that are a f C UH specific in terms of whether they will be in or out of the playoffs, so who will get those final spots in the a f C layoffs. Those teams are involved in the early frame. In the second group, the afternoon games, it's determined perhaps a f C South winner, uh, determined the NFC number one seed and determine the NFC ins or out of the playoffs. And then the late game, the night game is the NFC East title game, if you will, de facto title game. Washington involved in that. I know that because that was splattered all over the places. Still don't know the lines. But that's the that's the schedule. How did you do this past week? Saturday was a grind, we wind up slightly in the black. But Sunday was real good. Sunday was a real good day. Sunday. What was your best? Was your best outcome on Sunday? Oh? The best outcome yesterday? Uh? Probably the Jets. Yeah, that was probably our best outcome that would make sense. Jets winning their second in rowbating Cleveland out right, um thirty five left in circus survivor at a third teen hundred ninety um thirty five out of thirteen ninety headed in the final week too, at least what we can ascertain two people with two entries left, so thirty three different people thirty five entries um. Remember twenty three is the point where it becomes a six figure theoretical value, twenty three point nine specifically, so almost at the six figure mark, the Browns took out the most. The aforementioned Browns with twelve, Texans went down with five. Someone had the Cardinals. So that's how you got to the eighteen. All right, let us begin with the first game on Sunday. I got a lot to say, somebody whatever, So the first game is in the rotation, is the night game, so we'll get to that, lax, I guess okay, Um, let's do early gas early games. Jaguars at the Colts, Jaguars at the Colts. All right, Promise me we'll get to the Miami Raid Miami, either Miami or the Raiders in this segment, because I got I got too much to say about that Jaguars at the Colts. This, by the way, let me just say this about Survivor. But let me take a moment to just remind people that this is Gil Alexander, Chrisandrews. This is guessing lines week seventeen, the final week of the regular season, right here on the Numbers game at Vista, the sports betting network. The exercises. I don't know the lines. I try to guess them. Chrissie tells me in a typical week what he'll post at the end of the show. We'll see how this goes today, because Week seventeen is scorely uh for those of us who have got beat with the Rams in week fifteen. I speaking for myself, I had the Ravens planned all the time for week sixteen, so of course it was a cruise job. Indianapolis would have been my Week seventeen pick. And as it turns out, I'm gonna guess that this is gonna be a massive spread. I'm gonna guess it's fourteen the Jacksonville Jaguars yesterday, and this is what I talked about. It's what I talked about with Tanka Palooza three years ago in the NBA. So when I talk about quote unquote tanking, now, the layers on the field don't take, but front offices and the coaches can do things to minimize your chances at winning. The Jaguars yesterday came out with no Gardner Minshew. They went with Mike Glennon and no James Robinson. They announced this before the game. Uh, they announced this before they went out and laid an egg against the Chicago Bears. There's a couple. There was a few things happening in that Bears Jacksonville game, by the way, the first of which was when Arizona lost on Saturday. I couldn't believe more people didn't pound Chicago early. They waited till Sunday to go crazy. I immediately it was like everything on Saturday after Arizona loss. That's a different story. But Jacksonville no Minshew, no Robinson, the Jets win, and the Jacksonville loss means Jacksonville clinches the number one pick in one draft and a shot at Trevor Lawrence. Mike Glennon was twenty thirty seven for two eleven in the loss, two touchdowns, two picks. He was sack once. They only had fourteen first downs. They had ten penalties for hunter fifteen yards. UH longest losing streak of franchise history ties the franchise record for losses in the season at fourteen that was set back in twenty twelve. And then there's the Colts. The Colts had a big lead over the Steelers, your Steelers. They were up twenty one to three in the second half UH minus two in turnovers, though they had nine penalties for eighty three yards. They got outscored twenty one to three. As I said, in the second half after being up in that game, a grip uh and that was the big turn around. They were up twenty four to seven, got outscored three rivers twenty two of thirty five or two seventy one touchdown one. Picky sacked five times Jonathan Taylor eighteen for seventy four and two touchdowns. But Indianapolis now needs help because of that loss. They need to win and Tennessee to lose to win the a f C South. Their second way in is a win by Indianapolis in this game against Jacksonville shouldn't be difficult, and a loss by Miami, Baltimore or Cleveland any one of those three, coupled with a Colts win here over Jacksonville and Indianapolis will be in. So Indianapolis has two roots Division or wild card, but they do need help. I'll say Colts by fourteen to touchdowns here because the Jaguars have done so uh it's thirteen and a half or fourteen. I definitely like the higher number. My I made it seventeen myself, you know. And I know Coals could be wildly inconsistent, which is, you know, a commentary and think more Philip Rivers and the rest of the lineup, but yeah, they all, they all are complicit in this, but I like this high. I mean the DAGs just they didn't show up the second half. They played a good first half against the Bears, but just didn't show up the second half. I mean, how much enthusiam unique is going to be in that locker room this week as they view film and do all that other sort of things. So I definitely like the highest number possible here. So fourteens what I'll open just because I see a lot of thirteen and a half out there. But I'm gonna stay the only counter arguments that and I think you're right. I doubt they'll care at all, especially when looking at film for this last game. The only counter argument would be Jacksonville actually now can win at will, right, nothing goes wrong if they win this game, they still have the number one picks. I'm gonna I'm gonna just say fourteen. And you're saying you'll put it at seventeen or whatever is the highest you said. I'm gonna use fourteen because, like I said, it's the plenty of third team and a half now, so I'm gonna be on the high end of it. Okay. Next, you want to do your rant now, Gil, because those two teams are way down the list. What's the perfect segment, Well, we'll do that. I just want to do it in the top segment or of either hour, So we'll wait till the second hour for that. Okay, Okay, that makes sense. Okay, okay. Next in the next in the rotation is A one is a late game? Do you want to skip that and go onto the early games first? Yeah? I think we should do all the early games first. Let's do chronologically, okay. Next up, Cowboys at the Giants. Cowboys are the Giants. Okay, So winner of this game will win the NFC East. If then Washington loses later. Okay, so winner of this game wins the NFC East. If Washington loses later, it's the six and nine Cowboys the five and ten Giants. Cowboys win. Yesterday they beat the Eagles. They were way down. They were down fourteen to three against the Eagles outscored him thirty four to three. The rest of the way beat him thirty seven to seventeen. Is three point dogs. Dalton was twenty two of thirty for three seventy seven, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked twice. Zeke nineteen for one oh five, Cooper four catches for one, Gallop six for one one and two touchdowns scored on five consecutive possessions in the second and third quarter. And then the Giants just got rolled by the Ravens. It was never closed. Thirteen was actually closer than it was. Ravens fumbled at the two yard line late on the way into make it a three touchdown lead. Instead, they only win by two touchdowns. Daniel Jones fifty two, one touchdown. Note Pixy was sacked six times. Giants offense one of ten on third, one of three on four. It's their fifth straight game with fewer than twenty points. They've scored just two touchdowns over their past three weeks. And that's that with the Giants. So I'll say Dallas not quite by a field goal, say Dallas minus two and a half in what could be a game for the NFC East. Depending on what Washington does later, what is two and a half? I might make the number higher. So I'm gonna open three, and I know somebody's gonna come and take it's like that, you know, it's like the last three they're ever going to see in the world. You know what, I post one of these, but I make this a lot higher. And my commentary on the Giants is that was looking to some things to see. I think it's overlooked just how bad this franchise has been for about six or seven years now. I mean they are terrible. They have they're looking at that. They the five and ten is done what they are and so double diget losses, double digit losses again this year. Uh you know what, they lose three and you mentioned nominy points. They haven't scored in the last six games or whatever, six against US, thirteen against the Ravens before that. Their wins. They had seventeen against been they hit the shards. How they won that game, I'll never know. Uh. Beat the Bengals, beat et Eagles, beat the Washington's twice. This is a terrible team. And I hate to say because I've always kind of liked the Giants. I'm the NFC has been one of my favorite NFC teams. That this is a terribly run franchise for a while now. And it's kind of, you know, split under the radar because they do have those two Super Bowls with Eli Manning, and they have pretty rich history parcels and a couple of Super Bowls, you know, so, but um, this is this is a bad team and a bad franchise right now. Left of the Cowboys are any great shapes, but they're playing pretty good. Looks like Dalton got his feet on Dermans, knows how to use everybody. You know. They look a little rocky certain in the first half this It came out with the managers. I like this number way higher. So I'm gonna open three, somebody's gonna grab it off me and I'm sure, but I like this number of way higher. Did you just tell me? I hit the first two on the button. By the way, first two lines, Yeah, has never. I don't think that's happened all year. I'm sure I'll miss one up badly coming field field Yates. Oh sorry, go ahead, Chris, what do you say? I'm gonna say, what do you see some of these numbers? I remember that from week seventeen. By the way, field Yates had this great tweet about the Giants. They could win the division. Remember if they win in Washington loses, the Giants based on tiebreaker because we swept Washington will win the division. Or they could pick third in the draft. How amazing is that? That's how wacky the NFC East is. That's from Field Yates from espn uh win the division and get a home playoff game, or or pick third in the draft in another scenario. That's the gap. The other thing about this is six and ten could win the NFC East and eleven and five could miss the playoffs in the a f C. That's just another all right, what's next? Yeah? And by the way, I still don't want to change the playoff format. I think it's great drama, it's great, it's great. Yeah, Yeah, I really do. Yeah, And I mean, listen, you're looking, there are two and a half point dogs. How many of those win quite a few. We haven't gotten to the Washington's yet. That's that's a low point spread there too, an easily easily app them winning the division. Okay, next up, we have the Steelers at the brown Steelers at the Browns. Here's where it starts to get squirrely, because because here's where you can't I mean, I don't know what to make this. Uh. Pittsburgh, as I mentioned yesterday, out gained by the Colts in the first half two six to eight in total yards. In the first half, Colts were up to seven as I As I mentioned heading into the final stages of the third quarter, biggest second half comeback of Mike Tomlin's tenure in Pittsburgh ensued. They outscored the It's twenty one and nothing over the final eighteen minutes and sixteen seconds, and Pittsburgh clinches the a f C North by the way, they would have clinched it with the Brown's loss anyway. Seventh a f C North title under Mike Tomlin. Big Ben came to life thirty four or forty nine for three forty two, three touchdowns, no picks, sacked once. All of his touchdown passes in the second half Juju a touchdown, Deonte eight for seventy five and a touchdown. They were plus two and turnovers. That always helps. Now here's where it gets squirrely. They can clinch the number two seed with a win and one Buffalo loss. Remember the Bills play tonight against New England and then they got a game next week. So Pittsburgh could clinch the number two seed with a win in a Buffalo loss. But the number two seed, remember, doesn't have a buy anymore. First year that's happened, So do they really care? I don't know. Mike Tomlin already on record is saying he's not sure how many starters he might sit in this finale against the Browns. The Browns, on the other hand, have everything to play for. They can clinch their first playoff berth since two thousand two with the win next week or in Indianapolis loss, or a Tennessee loss, Miami win, in Baltimore win. You got all that, So let me say that again. Brown's clinch of playoff berth with a win that's the easiest way, or in Indianapolis loss, that's the second easiest way, then the more convoluted way. A Tennessee loss, a Miami win in a Baltimore win, don't ask Baker Mayfield yesterday, and defeat fifty three for two eighty five no touchdowns, no picksy was stacked four times. The Browns had a season low forty five rushing yards, as I mentioned, Oh no, I didn mention this. They were minus two in turnovers against the Jets. But remember this was the COVID game. They entered that game against the Jets without seven players because of COVID nineteen issues. Along with the with the Cardinals losing on Saturday, which should have triggered Bears bets for everybody based on playoff implications, and the fact that the Jaguars already anounced they weren't playing Minshew or Robinson. This was the other sort of must bet the cove bid issues with the Browns. No Jarvis Landry, no. Three. Other wide receivers were Shard Higgins, Donovan People's Jones or uh uh, Cardarell Hodge, linebacker Jacob Phillips as well Jedrick Wills, the rookie left tackle was out for other for other reasons, they had to call up several players from the practice squad and coach Kevin Stefanski ran a walk through in a parking lot near the team's hotel to get some of the new players up to speed on the game plan. After the game, Baker Mayfield said, quote, I failed this team. I put three balls on the ground, two of them they recovered, and the other on fourth down, just hold onto the damn ball unquote, And the big one he's talking about. On fourth and one, with the shorthanded Browns driving for the potential tying score, he tried to push forward for the first down and lost The ball went Torrell bash him smacked into him. Kareem Hunt recovered, but by rule, Mayfield was the only one who could advance the ball and he was short of the first down, so the call was upheld by video review and the Jets got the ball with one eight team left. Second straight win for them after an O and thirteen starts. So that's the situation. The brown of everything to play for, still could get in if they lose, but they've got everything to play for. Pittsburgh's got only seating to play for. Does seating matter? I would argue it doesn't. Mike Tomlin as you say, coaches lie, indicating that it might not matter to them. I don't know. You put all that in the wash Cleveland's what a seven and a half point favorite or something like that. I don't know. I'm there's only a couple of numbers out there, and it's more like six and a half. Um, but I'm not I'm certainly not posting this number today. I mean, the Bills game means, uh, you know you say seating doesn't matter. Go, I don't know if it matters or not. Might not? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. So I mean, I'm not going to post this today. But six and a half is kind of the number that's out there right now. Um. You know, I listen, I get, I have all the Pittsburgh papers that I try to follow as much as I can. I'll see if I can get read on it. But like I opened the show is saying, I don't know if I trust these coaches with what they say. They're not under no obligation to tell you the truth, um, except on an injury. But you know, we'll see. I don't know so right now, knocking open, But six and a half is the number, but very very few numbers out there. But that's what I see. Yeah, this is the first one where it's impossible to set a line for And I will I will say this, even if seating did matter to you. Again, we're not talking about the number one seed because Kansas City's got that. We're not talking about two met or to miss the playoffs. We're talking about you're in. You've either clinched the playoff birth you've clinched a division win, and you're in the playoffs. And even if you cared about seating, you couldn't plan it if you tried with all of these teams bunched up like they are, so you couldn't. You couldn't even figure out who you'd end up playing if you had designs on playing a certain team. Unlike the NFC, by the way, where you do have the NFC East winner sitting out there is the four seed. There would be purpose to try and get the number five seed, but the a f C forget about it, you know, so that that will be interesting to see in the NFC how teams play that. Who can jockey for the number five position? Can you? But at least there's a goal you could argue there's a goal in the NFC with seating you cannot argue because all of these teams are really good in the a f C. And now that Pittsburgh showed up, I would I would throw them into the hole. Mix um. So that's the story there. So we'll probably run into several several more of these games where there's no idea. How do you know does a team care? Does it not care? What is the coach saying? Is he lying? Is he telling the truth? We're all amateur psychologists on heading into week seventeen. But that's what makes it interesting. We'll come back. We'll continue with guessing lines week seventeen. Nonetheless, the Titans at the Texans. Titans at the Texans. Titans got beaten the snow last night by Green Bay. We'll get the Green Bay. Have you ever seen more effortless football than the Packers are playing right now? It's amazing. Titans get eat U fort fourteen. They got a close at one point, uh, nineteen to fourteen, I believe, But then it was just a steam roll down the stretch of that game. Uh, Tennessee, let's see here, Tennessee at who did you say at Houston? Oh? Okay, Ryan Tannehill yesterday, by the way, in defeat eleven of twenty four for one one through the air, one touchdown, two picks. He was sacked twice, three carriers from fifty five yards and a touchdown for him though Derrick Henry for ninety eight. Whenever you can hold him under a hundred, you're doing a good job. A couple of calls in that game went against Tennessee. I'm not saying Tennessee would have won the game, but offsides called on a blocked field goal attempt was interesting, and then by the time they got to the replay on a big Aeron Jones run where he clearly stepped out of bounds, they couldn't really challenge. It ends up costing the Titans thirty six yards. That was a little odd in that game, odd being a kind word. But nonetheless, Green Bay cry them. Tennessee ten and five. There are in a big mix. But if they win, they win the a f C South. In this game at Houston. End of story, Houston loses to the Bengals. Bengals have won two in a row. DeShawn two thirty three for three forty seven, three touchdowns, note picks. He was sacked once. Uh David Johnson twelve carries, one hundred twenty eight yards and a touchdown. He finally showed up Cook seven for one fifty three and a touchdown. It's the third time in the past four games of the Texans had a chance to win or tie a game late but lost a fumble instead last drive of the game. I'll say Tennessee has is a ten point favorite at Houston. You're a little high. It's uh seven and a half. Uh yeah, let's call it seven and a half. There's some other weird numbers out there that seven halfs the consensus is a little lower. Um, I don't know that. I mean, the Texans look terrible. I mean they've been terrible for most of the year. You know, still like the Shawn Watson, you know, like many of the skill players surrounding, and but I do like him. J J. Watt at a pretty famous rant yesterday on Twitter that's got a lot of attention. Um, you know, and I you know, listen, he is still a team leader. And I think that's gonna mean something in a week like this where they are. I think they're going to do their best to show up. I think the numbers are shade high myself, but I will open seven and a halfs. It's just such a squirrely week. I don't know if I want to get overloaded on some team in a situation like this when I don't know exactly what the Texans are gonna be doing. A Titans certainly are playing for quite a bit um. I think seven halfs okay, but I kind of like a little bit lower. I wouldn't be surprised that game trends down a little bit that I will open seven as see what happens. Yeah, I do, I miss one badly. Uh ten right and Houston. But this is fitting though, to end Week seventeen with a game where I missed the line on the Houston Texans game. They have been them in New England that I think if we had one theme on guessing lines this year, Houston and New England, I perpetually got those lines wrong. The market has just a different opinion of those two teams. And I'm not saying I'm right and they're wrong. It worked out sometimes, it didn't work out others. But you're saying, he said, so what are you posting on this again? In the end, seven and a half said seven and a half, all right, and again, if Tennessee wins UH, they win the a f C South. Doesn't matter what Indianapolis does. If they lose and Indianapolis loses, they still win the a f C South. If they lose in Indianapolis wins, then they're in the wild card mix and it becomes a whole bunch more convoluted. Again, these are all early games on Sunday Week seven. Team, we're running up against a break. The Jets at the Pots, Jets at the Patriots, by the way, didn't mean to like seg from that callous lee. What we we gotta move on here, Jets at Patriots. Let's see Jets two and third. As we mentioned, big win over the Browns. Big, well, I don't know about big. Jets fans are just devastated because in a two week span, the Jets have completely taken themselves away from the Trevor Lawrence sweepstakes. The Jets, when UH did, in fact clinch the number one pick for the Jacksonville Jaguars, New York will have the number two pick. No matter what they do in this game, they will have the number two picks. So no Trevor Lawrence welcome whoever you decide to pick number two. Jets. Sam Donald was sixteen thirty two for one seventy five, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked twice in the victory over the Browns. Jamison Crowder one of one passing for forty three yards in a touchdown, one carry for fourteen yards, seven catches for ninety two yards and a touchdown. The Jets, as they mentioned, were plus two in turn overs. New England hasn't played New England place tonight against Buffalo, where they are seven point dogs against the Bills, who are trying to get Sean McDermott that Coach of the Year award. I would imagine at this point, not that they may think about that out loud, but that's probably what's online tonight, Buffalo already having won the a f C East. I will say in this game, I mean, I'll just say New England minus four, because Bill Belichick doesn't want to let Adam Gaze beat him, So I'll just say minus foresight unseen with the Patriots, and I'll leave it at that. As it's four and happens five. You know, I have no idea how Bill Belichick is going to approach this game. I mean, you've never been in a game like this, you know, And you know, I mean even in the Cleveland days. I don't think he was in a game like this. You know. I just have no idea. But of course they do hate the Jets. He hates them personally, and I'm sure the Jets feel the exact same way about him. One more thing about that the Jets Browns game. You know, I think Stefanski has done a great job with Cleveland this year, but with no wide receivers, what where was the running game? And I know they fall behind earlier that you're supposed to run the ball a little bit. That was a terrible coaching performance by Fancy just rushing yards as I mentioned for Cleveland season low yesterday. You know, okay, but you know they abandoned the run like early in the game. I mean, I don't know what the game plan was, but no wide receivers and one of the best running games in the NFL against a horrible team. You can't abandon anything early. I mean we were watching it. We listen, we needed the Jets to win, and the whole time I'm telling Jimmy and then it's still the Jets. They could they could blow the game and the number. Believe me, so, you know, but the advance that was terrible coaching at this point anyway, I'm an open New England five. I have no idea what yes, I have nothing else, nothing further to add your honor. Jets win that game against Cleveland yesterday to sixteen, A seven point Dogs next. Oh, here's another one. Vikings at the line. I wouldn't know what to make this. Uh, Vikings lose. The Vikings lose to the Saints on Christmas and they lose pretty handily. Cousins twenty seven forty one, three touchdowns, No Pixie was sacked twice. Adam Feeling eight for ninety seven and a touchdown. Minnesota eliminated from playoff contention while allowing the most points by any Vikings team since nineteen sixty three in that game, fifty two points to the Saints. They lose fifty two to thirty three. Camara had six touchdowns himself. We'll get to him. Vikings never let in that game. They gave up five hundred eighty three yards. The most ever gained by a Vikings opponent and New Orleans is two hundred sixty four yards rushing were the most by a Vikings opponent in Zimmer seven seasons. So how about that Minnesota, And by the way, another completion of a Kirk Cousins middling season. Mazel tov to you for a Kirk Cousins. Detroit Lions their game uh. They started against Tampa Bay without interim coach Darryl Bevel along with the sistance on the defensive staff because of COVID nineteen contact tracing the wide receivers. Coach Robert Prince was their head coach for the day, and they played much of the game without quarterback Matt Stafford. He was questionable to play with hipp and thumb injuries. Then he heard his right ankle on the opening drive didn't return anyway. They got housed forty seven to seven. Tampa Bay could have scored a hundred if they wanted to. Stafford was two of three for seventeen. Daniel Chase Daniel thirteen of eighteen for eighty six. Blow came in six of ten for forty nine. They had twelve total first downs in that game versus thirty for Tampa. They were one of ten on third downs on eighty six total yards versus the five, eight, eight for Tampa minus two in turnovers. They had eleven penalties just for good measure, the Lions did for one seventeen yards. They're only scored Jamal Agney returning upon seventy four yards in the third quarter. I don't know Minnesota by by something, by six, but we have no idea who's playing for Detroit, who's coaching or whatever, So I have no clue. Yeah, at six and only a couple of numbers out there, it's gonna half. I mean, I gotta wait to see what are they gonna do with Stafford. I mean, they're crazy if they're playing. But these two teams gave up combined points this past weekend. I mean, two teams totally in the tank. So I don't I have no Let's put it this way, I have no idea what I'm gonna open, probably around six and a half. But you know, I don't see anybody beating down the doors the bet game in the first place unless they actually know something. So I'm just gonna hold up on this one. I agree. Well, not well. I can't imagine it being a heavily bet game unless they know something. As I said tonight, the first time we've seen the New England Patriots play a game of no consequence in almost twenty years, It's hard to believe. Um still more interesting than the Masks singer? Say again, the mask singer, what are you talking about? It's all the commercials that they played during UH Sunday Night football Mass Mass dancer. By the way, just scanning the TVs, Our National Nightmares over, Lori Laughlin is out of jail, very excited for her. Yes, collective sigh of relief, Great National Nightmares over? Didn't President Ford say that once upon a time? By the way, Christie, I didn't know what Jimmy Carter was our rock and roll president. Have you seen the ads for this documentary coming up? Who knew? No? I'm not very very excited to find out Jimmy Carter being our rock and roll president with music. We'll see, we shall see about that. I picture him more of a Johnny Cash type early rock and roll. Alright, number, let's see what are we were? Still in early games? Are we late games yet? Yeah? Eight late games? How many early games? Seven early games? So this is our seventh and final early game? Oh we got one more? What's the next? Right? Shoot? We've got two more? At uh Falcons at the Bucks. Falcons at the Bucks. Let's see here, Falcons at the Bucks Again. Falcons lose to the Chiefs. They do so seventeen to fourteen as eleven point dogs. Young Hey Kup missing a a thirty nine yarder with nine seconds left in this game sealed the deal. UH Matt Ryan and defeat seven thirty five three, two touchdowns, no picks we sacked four times. Ridley five or one thirty. Falcons have lost four straight, all by five points are fewer. It's their seventh loss this season in a one possession game. Wow Tampa Bay. Meanwhile, Uh, as we said, they crushed the lines forty seven and seven. Tom Brady twenty two of twenty seven for three for his personal record by halftime, four touchdowns, no picks sacked once. It was his third career game with a perfect passer rating one fifty eight point three. Only quarterbacks every throw four touchdowns in three forty plus yards before halftime, his second time doing it. Only half he needed to play Bucks on seven to seven. They rested Brady ahead thirty four to nothing. The Buck, the largest halftime lead in franchise history, sealed the spot in the playoffs. For the first time since two thousand seven, the NFL's second longest postseason drought behind Cleveland. I would not have been able to name that Tampa Bay had the second longest playoff drought outside of Cleveland Cleveland eighteen years. They're trying to uh break that drought this coming Sunday. Tampa Bay set team records and points in yard three thirty four and four ten in the first half. Remember, they had been outscored fifty nine to seven in the opening quarter of their previous six games. NFL record twelve straight seasons making the playoffs for Brady, She's Gabett came in playing Gabett. That is nine of fiftee two touchdowns, no pixy sack once, Evans ten for one eight one two touchdowns, Godwin five of eight rather five eight four h five Ready four touchdown, Gronk two for fifty eight and two touchdowns. They got thirty first downs and total yards Tampa Bay single game record four seventy seven of which were passing. So Tampa Bay again incentive to get the fifth seed. Can they figure out a way to do that so that they can face the NFC East winner. Atlanta is always playing one score games. I'll say Tampa Bay minus four and a half, no more than that six. And that's exactly what my numbers came to. Um, you know, I'm watching the Falcon just I mean, a win by the Falcons would have been beautiful on a couple of different levels. I can't think of what the second level might be, but I won't speculate. Yeah, and then I'm watching the games. We're back there. Come on, that Ryan pulled us. I'll never say anything bad about you again until you blow the next game you're supposed to win for me. So but you know that was just Atlanta just keeps losing these close games one way or another. They blew up thirty nine yards field goal that would have put the game into overtime. She's uh, anyway, I make the game six. That's what my numbers can come to. I pretty much see, um, you know, a solid six with no variation. So that's what I'm gonna open it. All right, let's do one more here before the break. Ravens at the Bengals. Ravens at the Bengals. Okay, now, according to what I said earlier, this is uh oh no, no, this is an early game. Is this early or late is early game? Still early? Okay, I think we might have maybe we played one late game. I think my accident first games was there was messed up, there was a late game, like the very first game was out of whack. All right, so this is an early game. Um, okay, Baltimore say again, who are they planning? Baltimore Cincinnati CCATI. Yeah, we discussed these little Lamar Jackson beating the Giants. He was seventeen of twenty six thirteen carries for eighty uh. Ravens were eight of eleven on third down. The Giants are one of ten on third They had two forty nine rushing yards. Perfect Ravens kind of game script. Ten penalties for sixty five yards. They gotta clean that up. But they can clinch a playoff berth with a win next week at Cincinnati or one loss by either Cleveland or Indianapolis. So a win by the Ravens puts him in, or one loss by Cleveland or Indianapolis. The Colton the Browns losses this past weekend thrust the Ravens past both of them in the a f C wild card hunt, and then Cincinnati's we mentioned one, their second in a row. Good for Zach Taylor and Cincinnati their four ten and one now so not got awful, just awful. Brandon Allen in probably the most surprising box score line of the weekend twenty nine of thirty seven for three seventy one against the Ravens two touchdowns note picks, he was not sacked. Sam J. P Rhyme thirt two touchdowns. Tee Higgins good rookie season for te Higgins six for ninety nine in a touchdown. Bengals had five hundred and forty total yards in this game against Houston. By the way, against Houston, not against Baltimore. The playing Baltimore here. Five forty total yards against Houston, four hundred fifty three uh given up to the Texans. It wasn't all great, but it's the first road win for Zach Taylor ever as head coach of the Bengals. How about that against the Texans thirty seven to thirty one win that knocked out some survivors. As I said, I had I had Baltimore planned, if the Rams had one, I would have played Baltimore yesterday and I would have played the Colts next week. It was so perfectly set up God, I hate the Rams, but that's a different story. Uh sorry, sorry to stray Baltimore had since the datie Baltimore are they're gonna be double digit favorites ten and a half, I'll say, yeah, you're a little light. It's eleven eleven and a half. I gotta tell you I made this fourteen. You know, maybe I'm overlooking how well the Bengals have played last couple weeks, because they did. They played well. And I've knocked Zack Taylor as much as any coach. I just I think he's been a terrible coach. But you know what, guy did get better and he was a young coach and he was terrible last year and maybe he's getting better this year. And uh, you know, I kind of like the Bengals early on. I think I said on the show when Joe Burrow was playing, I said, look for the Bengals to cover some big numbers. Not because they're gonna win a lot of games, but they're gonna cover some numbers as a dog. You know, Burrow went out and they kind of tank a little bit. But the last couple of weeks are playing well. But I gotta tell you, the Ravens are playing really well too, although if you look back, the last four games are on a blue winning street. But they played nothing but garbage that whole way. Um, so is that why they're suddenly rearing their ugly heads once again as one of the best teams in the league, not just the a f C. But they played a terrible team here. You know, I don't know, they've been terrible all season, but uh, you know, not so terrible lately. So my number is probably a little like my number came like fourteen. But I'm gonna open eleven and a half. I see it, um and I saw some ten and a halves really been not anymore. I see eleven, eleven and a half. I'm gonna going to high end here eleven and a half. But if I season is going to high, I think it might go higher. Myself a matter of fact, that I might even open twelve. I'm gonna put down a twelve and and open that. Everyone. Let's take it. I think it's gonna go higher. Ravens are playing good, like I said, against garbage teams. The question is sort of the Bengal still garbage team or are day? So we'll see on Sunday. I guess all right, so we've gotten through half the schedule. So Tennessee is that if I'm based on the numbers that we've gone through so far, you would think Tennessee would be the play so far in the games for me. But as you mentioned, you know, I don't know Houston plays all these these tight games. They fumbled three of the last four away on the final possession, So I'm not like racing to play Tennessee even though I guess them at ten and it's seven and a half. And that's that's also the game that was a late game based on I based on my template here where the early games. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jason, But based on my template that the early games were all a f C ins and outs, so meaning the Cleveland's and the Miami's and the Baltimores of the world. In the late frame, it's a f C South NFC number one seed at NFC ins and out. So the Tennessee game must be a late game. Yeah, the Tennessee game and the Colts games are late games. Okay, So Tennessee is I'm looking at dawn best. They still have those lists as ten o'clock games. Okay, Yeah, they definitely. The NFL definitely scheduled this so that you could not correlate. You know. Again, we we this changed a few years ago where that we're always correlated parlay opportunities with early games and late games. They have completely legislated that out of the final week seventeen schedule. Um, they'll tell you they didn't have gambling in mind, but it's awfully suspicious that you can't do that anymore. Uh, Chrisie Andrews is here with us. We're guessing lines for week seventeen, and again for those just landing on this show for the first time. Uh, Typically this is about an exercise to extract value from the upcoming upcoming week's line, week lines, week's lines. Thank you. So the guessing lines intro. We didn't have the music, no music, just a quiet one. We're not sure how Chris feels about the music. Okay, so we just we got rid of the music. Sorry, Chris, we didn't. They didn't clear it with you. I apologize pure Typically this is about extracting value. But it's Week seventeen and the optim when the word we're using is squirrely, Everything is squirrely. So we're trying to find value, but motivations are suspect and uh, amateur psychology is at the four this week, and so we don't want to get into that typically, but we'll do our best here. What is next in the afternoon window, Chrissie, Well, I still have this in the morning games, so Jason might have some. I'm born on don desk, so that's all I have is time change. But anyway, it's stole morning game, and I believe you may have something to say about one of these teams. Uh, we got the Dolphins at the Bills. Dolphins at the Bills, So yes, this is an early game. It's an early game. Okay, so we jacked up the order. But again, what you need to know is the early The early window involves all the a f C teams that are trying to make the playoffs at the risk of being out of the playoffs. The late window is about a f C South title. Indianapolis also included in that because they have two different ways of getting in about the NFC number one seed and about NFC ins and outs of the playoffs. It feels like they moved then FC South games to the afternoon. Yes, and then the night game is for the NFC East Washington, whether they win or lose. Okay, So Miami at Buffalo, you said, yes, Okay, so the rates. So the Dolphins beat the Raiders in dramatic fashion on Saturday. Uh and they do so by the score of twenty six to twenty five. And let's go over just again the the ending of that game, sixteen to sixteen. The Dolphins put in They put in Ryan Fitzpatrick. He leads a field goal drive to make it sixteen to sixteen with four oh one left. Then there's the eighty five yard touchdown past and Nelson Agilor from Derek Carr, who played in this game. Surprisingly, let's put the Raiders up twenty two to sixteen. They missed the extra point. He out jumped Byron Jones with a catch and then he juked Bobby McCain. Then Fitzpatrick gets the ball back. Flores again had inserted him in for an ineffective two of the drive before fifty nine yard touchdown past the Miles Gaskins. Gaskins did all the work there to put the Dolphins up twenty three to twenty two. Again, this is all in the last four minutes. In one second, then the p I on Byron Jones as he was covering Nelson Aghaloor deep. Again, a lot of people had trouble with that call. I thought live that it was a ad call, but on replay he did have both of his hands on Agilor and the ref was looking right at it, so I understand why they called it. That led to the field goal that put the Raiders up twenty five to twenty three all in, and then, of course what happened at the end with nineteen seconds left in the game, um the fits magic one play was enough to move the Dolphins from their own twenty five into field goal range. Matc Collins was left to open for a thirty four yard pass that Fitzpatrick through while being dragged down by the face mask by arden Key. The penalty moved the ball down to the Las Vegas twenty six, setting up Jason Sanders winning kick twenty six twenty five. The Dolphins win it with no time remaining on the clock. Fitzpatrick's desperation heave uh to Hollands, setting up Sanders forty four yards. Forty four yard field goal moves the Dolphins a step closer to a playoff berth. With that improbable win TWA was seventeen of twenty two for ninety four yards. That's it, touchdown note picks. He was sacked three times. And I said it on this show and I've said it on Primetime Action that Brian Floor is as great as he's been this year. And we talked about it, you and me Chrissy on this show. He sort of painted himself into the corner with TWA, like what happens if they really need to win a game, or if they're in a game in game and they really have a moment where they got to get a drive done, and he regained his senses and he went to Fitzpatrick. He did it. I always wondered what he would do, and he did, in fact do it. Fitzpatrick ends up nine of thirteen for a hundred eighty two yards, one touchdown note picks, no sacks in less than a quarter. It's Gil Alexander, It's Chris Andrews. This is a numbers game at Visa, the sports betting network, Visa dot Com, the Visa app, Food Boastling, and Game plus h Fitzpatrick through for a hundred eighty two yards and a touchdown with a passer rating of one. Thirty seven point five per ESPN Stats and Information, It tied for the most productive fourth quarter Fitzpatrick's sixteen year career. He led three scoring drives in the fourth quarter for Miami, with the final one the most unlikely. After the Raiders bypassed a gimme touchdown for a field goal, the move to play for the field goal backfired. Raiders lost on a kick instead. Um Miles Gaskin, who was a fourteen carries for eight seven yards, five catches for a d two and two touchdowns, said quote, probably the most fun game I've ever played in my life. But let me just say this now about everybody, and I'm hearing it everywhere in sports media, and no one has been more critical of John Gruden than I have on this show. But the people who are killing John Gruden for settling for a field goal there at the end, what are you talking about? That is the most results based analysis I've ever witnessed ever in the NFL. It was absolutely the right thing to do. After the Raiders kicked that field goal leaving nineteen seconds left on the clock. The Raiders have a nine nine point nine win probability way, and so there's gonna be some people out there who are listening are like, if the numbers, it's like you're just like your shows called the Numbers Game or something. Okay, well, if you don't like that, let me just do it historically for you. The Dolphins became the second team in the past twenty years to take over that deep in their territory in the final thirty seconds. Remember they took over at their own twenty five. Became the second team in the past twenty years to take over that deep in their territory in the final thirty seconds when trailing and dry for the winning score. And remember they only at nineteen left Green Bay did it to Detroit five years ago, you may remember on a desperation pass from Aaron Rodgers to Richard Rogers. I think we all remember that. So, in other words, both from a win probability standpoint and a historical standpoint, of course, what John Gruden did was right. All these people who are who are basing their analysis on the result of what happened, you're killing John Gruden. This is not an Anthony Lynn situation where it was an awful decision. This is actually a good decision. It just didn't work out. It's amazing to me how people can't remove the results from the process of it. Now, if you want to blame anything, if you want to blame anything, the Raiders sideline allowing car to kneel down on third and goal with six full second still on the play clock, gifting Miami additional time for its future you know, game winning field goal. Okay, you can blame them for that. That I would agree with, at least milk it to the end of the play clock. The other thing is and I'll leave it at this, but I think a lot of what people are missing is on that play from Fitzpatrick to maccollins. Maccollins had got thirteen balls all year, the big thirty four yard passed were Fitzpatrick got his face mask wrenched the corner bit in the same on the flat pattern, the same way that Lamar Jackson of the Jets bid on it against the Raiders. Henry Ruggs in the Raiders dramatic win against the Jets a few weeks back. Who was that cornerback Damon r Net. Now, Raiders fans, you can blame Jon Gruden all you want, but you all lost this game in April because the Raiders chronically overdraft. They overdraft Cleveland Ferrell. They criminally overdrafted Damon r. Nett. Remember he was the one guy in the first round that was that was picked way ahead of where he was projected to be picked. Because the Raiders don't understand the draft. They pick these guys they like, they get fixated on players, and they're like, we have to have him, we have to have him, and so when their pick comes up, they grab him, even though they could play it, they could get the guy much later, but the Raiders aren't like that. They're like, Henry Ruggs available at twelve, we don't care. We've got to have Henry Ruggs now, even though they might have ended up with a better wide receiver at twelve or gotten HENR. Ruggs later. And then it nineteen. Here's Damon Arnette, who no one projected in the first round, and they grabbed Damon Arnette. Well, Damon Arnette bit on that pass. So if you want to blame the Raiders, blame them for not letting Derek Carr milk the final six seconds out of that play clock, and blame them from drafting Damon Arnette when they did. But John Gruden didn't do anything wrong. Stop fixating on the result, not the decision making process. And that's my rant. Chris Andrews, what game was this again? Uh? I forgot completely. Dolvin's at the Bills. Oh yeah, that's right. Bills haven't played. Bills played the Patriots to night. There's seven point favorites. Bills are eleven and three. They're a hail They're a hail mary away from being twelve in two and if they win out there a hail mary away from being fourteen and two. Sean McDermott ought to be the coach of the year. I'll say the Bills. And here's here's one of these two where we don't know, right, we don't know the Bill's motivation will be. Does it mean enough to them to win out and play everybody? Will they care to play Josh Allen in this game next week? There is some question again, as we mentioned, with Pittsburgh number two seed or not? Do they care about the number two seed? I don't know. I mean, I'll just as a placeholder, I'll say Buffalo minus two and a half. But I'm just guessing we appropriately after that eleven minute ramp. There's no number on this, that's awesome. But I have a commentary and very quick not it's far less than eleven minutes. But have ever noticed the uh, the Bills post the Dolphins, you know in Buffalo for the second they played twice a year. The second matchup is almost always in Buffalo. I think it's I have noticed that things like Okay, so I you know who's a big Bufalo fans and for some reason follows me on Twitter? Nick Lacai remembers him. Nick have a segment I love Nick. Has changed a few messages though. Yeah, he's been on Numbers game a couple of times. He's been on the Numbers Game a couple of times. I love him. I love Nick. So I d M him last night. I said, was there some sort of deal? Because you youngsters aren't gonna remember this. The Miami was not an original a f L team. They came in in sixty six, and I was just saying, they put him in Buffalo's division, and it's been changed a million times over the years, but it's always been Miami and Buffalo, so they always played twice here. Was there some sort of deal that they had to go? I mean, it's a big home field, advantage. You know, these Florida boys going up to Buffalo in December. You know, Um, there's some sort of deal that that had to be here and then didn't know, he says, but it sounds very much like an a f L thing that they would do. Um, so we remember. That's a great point. I can, yeah, because we remember it when we were kids, that this was always the case with Buffalo in Miami. It always seems to be that way. By the way of a couple other notes, there is some sort of deal, you know when they got in and I think it's great. Let those Florida boys come up the Buffalo a deal that still last in My god, didn't these didn't the merger happen in nineteen seventy. Fitzpatrick, by the way, hasn't made the playoffs in his sixteen year career. That's hard to believe. Uh. And Brian Flores says that to a will start in this game, to a will start, and if things go awry, then they'll go to the bullpen and get Fitzpatrick again. I guess here's the Miami playoffs situation. They clinch a playoff berth with a win over Buffalo or one loss by either Baltimore, Cleveland or Indianapolis. I just wanted to clear that up. Do we have Brent's call on that? Is that what you're saying, Jason, here's Brent Musburger, the great ent Musburger from Visan, calling the final sequence of this game between the Raiders and the Dolphins. All right, fits, see what you can do for timeouts, and you've got nineteen seconds. A win is a win, is a win. We'll take it. That's right, is hit And oh my good, how does someone get I don't believe this. They got ahold of the face mask and Fitzpatrick somehow got the ball off. He somehow launched the ball and wide open at the of the Raiders defense. I've never seen anything like this in my life, like I have not either, a matter of fact, I should not believe he got this ball off. The face mask was being wrenched. And if I was in the booth, I would have quietly said, they drafted him nineteen, Brent, they drafted him bent. Brent would have said, Lad, you're never invited in this booth again. But you could make a taste. You could make a case that Fitzpatrick's passes one of the greatest passes in the history of the NFL, given the stakes and how his face was wrenched, certainly for the Dolphins, it's incredible. I couldn't agree more. That was unbelievable. It really was unbelievable to have your faith face mask ripped like that. You're you're They turned his head like a hudow and he wanted up throwing it. Uh, you know for the game winning essentially the game winning pass, you know from incredible what They turned his head like, Chris, what do you say? They turned his head like a what who? Yeah, didn't you learning school and owl can turn its head three like a hoot owl. I didn't understand. I was like, you mean like an owl head hoot? So I didn't understand. I never referred him those whod owls before he said, like who down? You gotta understand my Pittsburgh Gas. Who know. I suppose we better get to other games because I'm way behind schedule now, So what's what's next? None? No line? Yeah, sorry, we should really do show prepp now we're on the afternoon games according to my schedule. But I guess Jason may have something for the may at Chicago. Yes, this is a late game because it involves uh number one seed in the NFC. So again the NFL doing this window by windows, so you can't have any correlated parlay's happening. In other words, in their parlance, an early game, an early game can't affect the motivation of a later game, so for beetting implications, no correlated parleys. Green Bay at Chicago, Green Bay, as we mentioned last night, fifth consecutive win. At one point they were out gaining Tennessee in total yards two seven to twenty two. That was late in the second quarter. They did have their lead cut to nineteen fourteen before blowing Tennessee away. Final score for fourteen. They get the number one seat if they win or if Seattle loses. Playing and simple for the Packers. Aaron Rodgers twenty five to thirty one, four touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once and by the way the pick he looked like it. He was just how could I have possibly thrown a pick? They're gonna be tough in that Green Bay weather, and Aaron Rodgers is playing the most effortless football I've ever seen. A J. Dillon, who had a hundred fifteen rushing yards all year, had spent over a month on the COVID nineteen reserved list. One carries for one two touchdowns. Aaron Jones ten for nine four even though he stepped out of bounds. As I mentioned earlier, replay didn't happen quick enough for them to challenge it. Davante eleven for one forty two and three touchdowns leads the NFL and touchdown receptions despite missing two games with a hamstring injury, and then four forty eight total yards for for the Packers, two thirty four of which were rushing. By the way, the Great Magic Johnson tweeting about this, he wants everybody to know in case you missed it, about the Suckers win last night. Magic always pithy, always describing a situation in a way that well, no one else can, and it goes a little something like this. With the Packers having home field advantage in the playoffs, they will be tough to be because of the cold weather and the snow, cold weather and snow. Thank you, Magic, Chicago Bears again with that big win over Jacksonville, and by big, I mean bigg in points in terms of being a twenty three point win, but also just in terms of implications they gained control of their postseason path when Arizona lost to San Francisco on Saturday. Again, I was very surprised that people didn't pound Chicago right after that game, but they did not. They waited till Sunday to do so. Uh. They can clinch a playoff birth with a win in this game against Green Bay or an Arizona loss, which we haven't talked about yes yet. Next week, the Bears scored thirty or more points for the fourth consecutive week, first time the Bears have accomplished that since nineteen sixty five. Not known for their offensive rows, these Bears Trabiski twenty four thirty five or two sixty five, two touchdowns, one pick. You said on his performance was far from perfect. His interception came in the end zone late in the first half. It was brutal, He scrambled, he threw it into a crowd with the Bears and field goal range. He nearly had another in the third, so he was doing Drabinsky things. Montgomer In a touchdown, Robinson ten catches for one oh three, Jimmy Graham four for sixty nine and two touchdowns. But the Packers needed they win their number one seeds. I'll say the Packers minus seven. My number is closer to yours, but I like your number of better. How's that first time? Because it's four and a half, I made the game six. You know, I know the Bears are playing much better. It's fright they're gonna wind up signing Rabisky. You know that's once no doubt. I mean they've been looking, even looking for quarterbacks and Sid Luckman retired what was that in the thirties or something like that, But they're gonna do it. They're gonna do it anyway. I'm gonna open his game five. That's I don't even see a five. I see it all four and a half, and I'm gonna take a better. Hi. I think Green Bay right now is just playing fantastic football. And the Bears, yeah, that come alive, certainly, I know, But the Packers right now. Blood. If I got the Packers moren for me on Sunday, I had no problem with that. So I'm gonna open five effortless. Aaron Rodgers looks like nothing on a football field surprised him in any way. I know that second half against the Panthers last week was a little weird. But other than that, it's just like I see what's happening. I see what's happening before the play starts. I see what's happening while it's while the play is going on, I don't change my facial expression. Davante Adams and I are telepathically connected. Um. It just seems so easy by the way that touchdown past the Adams in the end in the corner of the end zone. One of his three last night, which is you couldn't you could stop the tape Rogers couldn't have walked to the ball up better to him. Just just unbelievable. Um, all right, so what are you putting up finally on that, I'm gonna use five, although I don't see a five, octor. It's all four and a half. If they want to give me a bet on on the Bears, And like I said on Sunday, if I need the Packers, I'm okay with that. Again, both teams needed Packers number one seed. If they win or Seattle loses the Bears, they can clinch a playoff berth with a win or in Arizona loss next week. It's amazing, magical, amazing, right, It's a great save that the Saints that the Panthers all right, so the Saints still have a shot at the number one seed again. They crushed Minnesota on a Saturday um did so with fifty two points fifty two to thirty three win over Minnesota. Minnesota just completely on defense, laying down uh. Saints will get the number one seed if they win. If Seattle wins and Green Bay loses, Saints win, Seattle wins, Green Bay loses, Saints are your number one seed. Breeze was nineteen of twenty six for three eleven Who cares Alvin Camara twenty two for one fifty five a career high and six touchdowns six ties an NFL record set in nineteen twenty nine by Ernie Never's by running for six in a game forty yards one yard, five yards, six yards, seven yards, three yards for one. Yes they did. They went to uh tas him for one of them. He could add seven. Also has the Saints records for rushing touchdowns in the season. Now with sixteen. Does camarain total touchdowns with twenty one he has five receiving one lot of fantasy games on Saturday for people five eighty three total yards for the Saints to sixty four, rushing thirty six first downs, and they were minus two in turnovers, but they had a thirty six forty seven to thirteen advantage in time obsession. They never punted, set a record of yards gained in a game by Vikings opponent with five eighty three. And then Carolina beats Washington yesterday against Dwayne Haskins and and Taylor Heineke. So whatever, Bridgewater nineteen of twenty for one, one touchdown, one pick, stack, four times lost the fumble, Samuel seven for fifty two on the ground, five catches for one of six. They were plus two turnovers against Washington. Panthers have eight losses this season. With a chance to tire take the lead late in the fourth, I'll say New Orleans by seven, by seven once once again, I liked your number better. It's six or six and a half. I made this game eight and a half. Last night I was checking the opening lines that opened Saints five and a half. So it's been climbing ever since. I have thirty one minutes, he decided, But I might open this game seven book on either six and after seven. But let me say this. You know, first of all, I always got my question marks about the Saints. I don't know why I'm not sold on them, But as far as the Panthers go, they I think they have found the right coach. Now they need a lot of help up and down that lineup that they found the right coach anyway, six and alf I think I might open seven on that. Yeah, you said that before. I think I agree with you. Matt Rule does appear to be the right coach. Again. They fired their GM, their longtime GM who they got the two Super Bowls with. He may end up in Washington in some capacity with the Ron rivera connection Christie. Nick McKay, as it turns out, as a Vicent subscriber, just got the word on that courtesy Billy. Yeah. Yeah, he's been following me. You know. I love him. I think he's hilarious and just a brilliant guy. And yeah and he answered me. Yeah. For those who don't remember Nick McKay, well before gambling was ever uttered on mainstream media, he did a gambling segment without calling it a gambling segment, like twenty five years ago, and he would say he would think his famous line was what was he goes At the end, he would be like push right operation push or something like that at the end. Yeah, advantage push, advantage push. He also wrote, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer, he has been on a numbers game. I had him on. He told it amazing o. J Simpsons story. I'm gonna have to uh resurrect that or maybe getting Nick on the show again and asked him to tell it. Maybe that's the way to go. Mean, we'll get a nickel on this way, the Buffalo guy, that's why. Yeah, okay, you anything about that area? All right, let's get to We got more games to get to. What's next. By the way, Don Best is just catching up with Jason at the time changes the Colts and the Texans games were both moved to the at Jason has always been a handy Best always. I'm glad Don with the program. Gee oh man, I mean we're paying these guys to supposed to be ahead, to be fair. Yeah, well I'm not. Next up, Chargers at the Cheese, Charges at the Cheese. We don't have to spend much time on this, but the Chargers do get it done. Finally, Uh they let they let the Broncoes all the way back in the game, tied up sixteen to sixteen after they were up sixteen three, but they do win at nineteen to sixteen. Justin Herbert one of thirty three against the Broncos in their nineteen to sixteen win for two fifty three one touchdown note picks. He was sacked twice. Sets the mark for the most rookie touchdown passes in a season twenty eight, eclipsing Baker Mayfields twenty seven a couple of years ago. Led the Chargers on winning drives in three straight games. Now he's the fourth player to throw for over four thousand yards as a rookie, Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Jameis Winston the others. And again after Brandon McManus tied it at sixteen with two forty seven remaining with the fifty two yard field goal, Chargers took over the twenty five we're in the red zone three plays later, and then four plays after that Michael Badgeley with a thirty seven yard and with forty one seconds left. That held nineteen sixteen winners plus two in turnovers where the Chargers. Who knows Anthony Lynn may keep his job after all this, because they're six and nine now, I don't know if the Chiefs don't care, and they have no reason too because they've got the number one seed. Maybe they finished seven and nine, Chiefs clinched the number one seed in the a f C and to buy and home field advantage with their win over Atlanta, which again much closer than the the line. It was a a eleven and a half point closing spread Kansas City in Atlanta, no called eleven even they win by three. Seventeen and fourteen. Neither team could score in the first half. Patrick Mahomes through a twenty five yard touchdown past de Marcus Robinson with just under two minutes to go. The play before that should have been a pick by A. J. Terrell, though, so whoever had the Chiefs and survivor man was the universe smiling on you yesterday? The Terrell non pick and then Young hay Kho's thirty nine yard field goal try to tie the game looks like it's going right down the middle, and all of a sudden like saw like a something to the right and turned ninety degrees to the right, complete slice, faded it more slice with nine seconds remaining, Chiefs escape seventeen and fourteen. It's their tenth straight win. They've won the league record seven straight one possession games, set the franchise record for wins in a season with fourteen uh and Kelsey single season record for receiving yards by tight end, eclipsing George Kittle since beating the Jets on November one. Here are the margins of victory for the Chiefs. Two points, four points, three points, six points, six points, three points, three points. That's your number one seed, Kansas City Chiefs. They have nothing to play for. I don't know what Andy Reid's gonna do. Placeholder. I'll say minus four because I don't know what else to make it. Well, there's a couple of numbers out there that I don't even know if they're better boys, And you know, each side favored by two and a half one and a half, you know, so I don't know. I'm not gonna put up a line here until we find that. What more they want to do. But by the way, and you kind of hit on it, suddenly they're not playing that great a football right now. I mean they're winning a lot of close games. You know what a field goal here, a turnover there, they're gonna lose. You know, I don't know if they're gonna lose in the playoffs or not. They might that might not. But there's some good teams in the a f C. And uh, you know, I think Buffalo certainly, and Buffalo could beat them. And the Ravens are playing some pretty good ball. I don't know if it's just against lousy competition, but this team is right for an upset. Might now they're not playing that great football. Aaron Shots of Football Outsiders called me out on it during the megapod a couple of weeks ago, when I very sort of in a lazy fashion, said yeah, you know, they turned it on against Miami in the second and third quarters they outscored him thirty to three. Blah blah blah, and Aaron said, he goes, you know, it's it's super subjective because it's the Chiefs. We tend to just purge it as or just to sort of you know, process it as, oh, they can turn it on and turn it off. But it was another team, we would never say that, and I acknowledge it. It It was very subjective, by the way. Drew Dinsick the next week yesterday last week on on a Numbers game, came on and sort of said the same thing. A lot of red flags with the Chiefs. Man, it's gonna be tough to bet against them. I mean, we're talking about betting. Do I still want my money on Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs? Yeah? I probably do, but I get it again. Since November one wins by two points, four points, three points, six points, six points, three points, and three points. Seven straight one possession wins for the Chiefs. That's a league record. So interesting. Alright, Christie, we've got four more games to get to tee up one of them for me as we go into the break here. Hawks alright, Seahawks at the forty Niners. Uh, Seahawks clinch the NFC West with their win against the Rams yesterday. They can clinch the number one seed still with a win, a New Orleans loss and a Green Bay loss to Chicago. Seattle has allowed nine points per game during their three game winning streak. They've held opponents. The seventeen points are fewer the last five games. Not exactly a murderers row Philadelphia, the Giants, the Jets, Washington and the Rams, but still for a defense that was criticized, holding opponents the seventeen points are fewer the last five games. Wilson was twenty five yesterday in the win against the Rams one touchdown, note picks. He was sacked five times. And then San Francisco, as we we didn't mention, they beat the Cardinals on Saturday. C J. Beth thirteen for one two three touchdowns, no picks, act three times. Third string quarterback, he was one of it was one end nine as a starting quarterback heading into it. But Wilson, Jeff Wilson Jr. Three on the ground, Kittle four for ninety two in his return the forty Niners, playing their final home game of the year in Arizona Home. In quotes against the Seahawks, I'll say, Seahawks, mine is six. We'll get Chrissie's response, just a placeholder coming back on a numbers game at Visa these sports betting netwhere all right, Chrissy Seattle at San Francisco. I said, Seattle, mine is six. And again Seattle clinching the NFC West yesterday. They can clinch a number one seed with a win, a New Orleans loss, and a Green Bay loss to Chicago. No matter how unrealistic that sounds. Uh, I like your number better. It's UH four and a half, it was four. It seemed to be climbing. I think I'm gonna open five on this one. But I gotta tell you, I have been off on the forty Niners all year. This is one team with all their issues. You know, I think, very good coaching, uh, good general manager, all that sort of thing, but they've had a time of injuries, you know, in the Super Bowl last year. I've been off on them all year. But I like Seattle. They their defensives playing better. I mean, I know they played some cupcakes, but their defense is playing a lot better all of a sudden. So I'm gonna open five. See if they want to take it. But like I said, it opened four, most things been on the climb ever since. So I think I think this is gonna go higher, and I'm gonna try to get ahead of it by opening five. All right, let's do one more Raiders at the Blancos. Okay, we don't have to spend much time on this. Raiders were oh of ten, zero for ten on third down against the Dolphins despite four eighteen total yards, eliminated with their fifth loss in six games, and will be out of the postseason for the seventh The seventeenth time in eighteen seasons, seven being out of the last eighteen years, the Raiders haven't made the postseason. Why do we keep acting like the Raiders are a great franchise? Stop it? Everybody, stop it. So tired of it. But I love you, Oakland. I just want to put that out there. So in Oakland this weekend, UH coach John Gruden chose to run down the clock. As we talked about his quote afterwards, I don't regret it one bit. I just regret the results unquote. He's right Denver, as we mentioned loss to the Chargers, how about Jerry Judy with multiple drops in this game? That dude. That dude never dropped a pass at Alabama and he dropped like four passes yesterday, one of which could have won the game for Denver. What's what's up with him? Broncos were minus two in turnovers in that game. The big announcement from the Broncos Prissy Vic Fangio's coming back. Yeah, I don't know, split the difference between Yes, I'll split the difference between three and a pick and I'll say Raiders by one and a half. No idea. Yeah, it's in one of those games. Between one and a half and two and a half. I have no real opinion here that I mean, my numbers come a little higher. But you know who knows coming open to here And we didn't hit on it much when we were talking about the Miami but to a better learn to throw downfield. He can't be captain checked down his whole career ball somewhere. Gee. Well, this is again That's why I said I said on numbers game with you, I've said it on Primetime Action. Brian Floors really painted himself into a corner with two A starting no matter what, and he is, according to floor is going to start again on Sunday. And I guess if it's magic is there for a relief appearance. But it is a very odd way to go about things when you are when you have to make a decision. If you're the Dolphins, you owe it to your fans and try to get in the playoffs. Here and it's two of your best foot forward. Now he may be great moving forward, but certainly not now. Um and Richard Palmer just tweeted a great tweet that Bill's Dolphins game could the winner of that win Coach of the Year between Brian Flores and Sean McDermott. We talked about the Alabama Florida game being for the Heisman between three players. Maybe that's for Coach of the Year anyway, last of the afternoon game, sir, you know we can't spend much time on this either. Cardinals at the wind so yes we can. I have her verbal diarrhea here. Not not as much as the Dolphins and the and the Raiders. Uh, Kyler Murray and the loss. Arizona loses outright to the Niners twenty to twelve, and the Cardinals needed that game, as you said at the top of the show, must win situations, and I get it. It wasn't technically a must win. But if you're in must win situations, games you need must wins, you must not be that good. Kyler Murray was thirty one of fifty for two forty seven, no touchdowns, one pick you sacked three times, eight carries for seventy five yards. But Arizona's playoff hopes delt a brutal blow with the twelve loss, and because of that, they no longer control their own destiny. Chicago does. Uh. Air Zona will reach the playoffs if the If the Bears rather win. They'll reach the playoffs because of a tiebreaker over the Cardinals, so Cardinals need help. Kingsbury was the culfort to me in this game, watching this game, and the whole time, I'm screaming at the tv. Fourth and two from their own thirty five. Let's start at the beginning, fourth and one at their own thirty four, with six thirty left in the second quarter, down seven to three. He goes for it at their own thirty four, gets it, gets away with it. Fourth and three at their own forty eight with two minutes left in the second quarter, down seven to three, gets away with it, Fourth and five at their own forty two, with two thirty five left in the third quarter, down fourteen to six, gets away with it. And then finally you knew it was gonna come back and get him. And then the absolute audacity of going for it fourth and two from his own thirty five, down fourteen to twelve, with nine eighteen left, what are you doing? And it finally bit him in the butt. Cliff Kingsbury, that's on you, dude, that's on you. Just reckless. Got away with it a few times, didn't get away with it the last time. And then there's the Rams, who again have I pointed out that the Rams stabbed me in the heart and survivor, and that my final two picks. The Ravens cruised yesterday and the Colts are fourteen point favorites, as we've already established. Next week, all right, never mind thirty five left and Survivor, congratulations to you all. We'll track that as the week goes on. The Rams can still get a playoff birth. They can still clinch a playoff birth despite their loss to Seattle yesterday with a win or a Chicago loss. But NFL media is now reporting that Jared Golf may have broken his thumb when he hit it on a Seahawks defensive end Benson Mayowa's helmet on a pass attempt in the second half. Golf was able to play the rest of the game after the injury, but that doesn't mean it's a sure thing that will make the start against the Cardinals this week. John Wolford had a wake Forest as their backup quarterback. He's never appeared in a regular season game. That's also the case for practice squad quarterback Bryce Perkins. The Rams again will advance to the postseason with a win where Bears lost consecutive losses for the Rams with the first time this season. Jared Goff thirty four, no touchdowns, one pick, three, three sacks, and as Pro Football Talk tweeted, because you know, this is my favorite subject of all time, you cannot win a Super Bowl without a rookie quarterback who excuse me, a quarterback who overperforms on a rookie contract, or a Hall of famer. And here's how Pro Football Talk put it in sixtinctly. Yesterday, Jamis Winston and Marcus Mariota drafted one and two. Their teams didn't extend them, and after five years that was that. Jared Golf and Carson Wentz drafted numbers one and two, their teams extended them after only three seasons, and now they both regret it. The NFL is a tough business. That's a painful tweet to read with that Jared Goff face. But broken thumb man shouldn't be playing Rams minus four, I guess, But we don't know the quarterback, Christie, so I don't know. I see a couple of numbers out there, but I'm not sure that they're better ble, but it four is what I see. I'm up, putting ending up. I gotta find out what's going on with golf. But as far as the Cardinals go, you know, I've never been a Kingsbury man. I don't know why he should be an offensive coordinator, maybe not a head coach. And I've never been crazy by Murray either, So I have my questions about this team, certainly, But you know, I'm not gonna put this up. And now I've got to hear more about the golf st and Wofford? Was that the guy's name? Whatever? The backup corn, I don't even remember him. I don't remember Sean McVeigh, though. I'll bet you the guys better than we think. Where does Sean McVeigh end and where does Jared Goff begin? I'm not so sure I think Sean mcveigh's a genius anymore. I got news for you Sunday night, NFC East. What's the matchup Washington at Philly. I know this one, Washington, that silly. If Washington wins, they win the NFC East. Baby Dwayne Haskins yesterday fourteen one fifty four, no touchdowns, two picks, He was sacked twice, he lost a fumble, he was stripped of his captaincy this week after parting with several people that's very generic. He was at a strip club without a mask and he got docked forty dollars stripped of his captaincy. Chase Young is now the captain, breaking COVID nineteen rules. All three to his turnovers. All three of US turnovers yesterday were in the first half. He was benched for a practice squad quarterback Taylor Heneke in the fourth quarter, and then for good measure, in case you missed it, Dwayne Haskins skipped his postgame press conference yesterday. Good riddence, dude, Oh my god, is he he is? There's problems, man, way beyond football problems with that kid. This will be his last game in a Washington uniform, that's for sure. Taylor Heneke. By the way, it was twelve of nineteen for one thirty seven in relief. Since the start of eighteen, Washington is ten and five with Alex Smith starting their six and twenty six with other starting. How about that ten and five with Smith six and twenty six with others. We don't know if Alex Smith is playing in this game or not. Chase Young four tackles, one sack, forced fumble, fumble recovery. He's amazing. But they had four turnovers and they were minus two in turnover. So they lose to the Panthers, and then Philly, as I mentioned, up fourteen to three against the Cowboys, then they just go to just into the Crapper. Six loss in seven games for the Eagles, they're eliminated from playoff contention. DeShawn showed up, had to catch Rading one yards and a touchdown, back pedaled his way into the end zone, did a flip, and we're like, hey, we're up fourteen to three. Hey Deshaun, you got outscored thirty four to three the rest of the way. Maybe not do that. Maybe your team's eliminated. I don't know what to make this. I mean, if it's Alex Smith, Washington might be favored by a tick. If it's not, Philly's gonna be favorite. But we don't know. Rivers come out and said that Haskins will not start according to Breaking News. Errand well that we know it's Heineki or Smith, but it's not. It's definitely not Dwayne Haskins anymore. He's done. So I don't know what to make it. Chris that, but it's the Eagles. One is pretty much the number I got. I got bet on Washington before the season and make the playoffs for a pretty big bet. I need Washington and to win here so that that might influence my number a little bit along the way here too. But at least Tyler Heiney I remember him in college. Not like the ram guy, you know, so he was a pretty good player. Uh but Haskins, I think you're looking at the Jamacus Russell too. Yeah, never take a snap in the NFL again. I don't think Christie, I don't like anything. That's my honest answer. How about you? I like the Cowboys. Like the Cowboys. Only four days until Visa is no longer available on serious visa dot com slash listen for all the details. Don't be late, go there now. Thank you, Chrissie, thank you coming back. Good luck with everything tonight in the football game or beyond. From all of the v Sports Network