Check it down, man down. Good Monday morning to you. How you doing. It's a part of people is a numbers game right here at Visa and the sports betting network Visa dot Com, the Visa at Food Boast, Lincoln Game Plus. Hope your Monday is good so far. Hope your weekend was good. Betting football, college and Pro. We got it all here on the show today. Uh. Guessing lines with Chris Andrews Week fourteen Survivor Breakdown. Oh that was fun. We'll get to that. What a weekend for survive Let me just say this, I had the Raiders. If you could have had a camera on me when that touchdown was scored late, Uh, that would be phenomenal video. We'll get in all that when we get to that game. I don't want to I don't want to go crazy on it now, but we get to everything. For those landing on the show for the first time, this is a tribute to the old Stardust radio show of the same ilk where I've been in a cocoon. I don't know the lines for this coming week. We look forward to the exercise of me coming up, me guessing those lines. Chris Andrews will tell us what those lines in fact will be what he posts them at the end of this show at the south Point. Within that exercise, we hope to extract some value, and we'll look back at yesterday all the while. Let's bring him in the star of the show, ladies, gentleman, author of the book. Then one day he is my Misha who runs the south Point Hotel casino. Right here it is Chris Andrews. Good morning, Chrissy, Good morning Gil. So you had the Raiders. Okay, we'll get into that, I'm sure. Oh yes we will, Oh yes we will. How was how was the book weekend? From your perspective? We always start there. Yeah, you know, we did really good, really good. Saturday was very good and yesterday was fantastic. Hey, what was very very very good weekend? What was your biggest result yesterday? Biggest result? Uh, you know what, I don't know what I look like I sprung question. Yeah, it was a surprise card and we had so many good ones. You know, I'm still kind of catching up from last night. Is uh, let me see here. The Vikings was actually a very good result. Force so just perfect um, all right, we'll figure it out as we're going the Giants Giants Giants is probably the best result of the night matches, the single biggest upset in the NFL this year based on the closing points. Bread Let's let's do that. Yeah, we we have so much to get to. Let's get right into it here with now by the way, before we get to Thursday, I football, of course, today double header? Who don't love a Monday double header with lines on the move right? Washington now just a six and a half point dog consensus against the Steelers. Uh, that down from ten at one point, and then Buffalo San Francisco. San Francisco a one point favorite. Now, uh, they were once a three point dog in this game. Dallas Baltimore tomorrow to close out Week thirteen, Baltimore about eight and a half point favorite, consensus nine in some spots hosting the Cowboys. So all of that is still the coming week thirteen, but we'll begin with week fourteen on Thursday. What do you have on Thursday? Thursday? We got the Patriots at the Rams. Patriots at the Rams. Pretty good game for Thursday night the Patriots. The Patriots beat the Chargers forty five to nothing. I believe I said maybe ten, if not twenty times last week. By the immutable, irrefutable laws of football, you have to bet the Patriots here. You just have to. I don't care what the talent says. Uh, this is just you don't get this opportunity. And this resulted in spades the way that we had talked about it. Forty five to nothing. The Patriots led this twenty eight to nothing at halftime against the Charges yesterday. They've won four or five? Now have the Patriots since the two and five starts. They had a punt return touchdown, a block field goal return touchdown. The return man gunner is it Olszewski. He had three punt returns for a hundred forty five yards. That's an average of forty eight point three yards per return. Cam Newton twelve of nineteen for sixty nine. Christy had sixty nine yards passing and they won forty five to nothing. One that's amazing. One touchdown note picks. He was sacked once, by the way, fourteen carries for forty eight yards. Another two touchdowns for camp By the way, Jason, now your Jared Stidhum m VP ticket is still in play. He was two for three for sixty one off the bench. I actually didn't know he was in the game. They're exciting, you're still live. They were plus they were plus plus two in turnovers, Belichick's twelve shutout in twenty one seasons. The Patriots will remain in Los Angeles to face the Rams UH for this Thursday night game since they were just playing the Chargers. And then there is the Rams who get the win over the Cardinals. They do so um by ten in the end, thirty eight to twenty eight. And by the way, let me just pause for station identification. It is Gill, Alexander and Chris Andrews right here on a numbers game at Visa the sports betting network Visa dot Com. The Visa have food, bost link and game plus guesting lines. From week fourteen, Rams beat the Cardinals by twenty eight Seawan McVeigh now Chrissy thirty four and oh when leading at halftime including the playoffs four and oh. This season, following a loss seven and no under his tenure versus of the Cardinals, UH, they clinched. The Rams do their fourth straight non losing season. Jared Goff thirty seven or forty seven for three fifty one one touchdown note picks He was sacked once Acre seventy two and a touchdown Woods ten eighty five. The Rams were eight of fourteen on third down. They had a four hundred sixty three to two hundred thirty two advantage in total yards and thirty eight fifty three on the clock to oh seven for the Cardinals in time of possession advantage. That was a pretty substantial and convincing win for the Rams despite the ten point difference. I will say the Rams are the favorite here against the six and six Patriots who are still alive in the a f C and refuse to let those of us who have the under at night and a half clinch our season win total under. I'll say the Rams by six on Thursday, Well, you're dead on kill. It is six. I do see some six and a half in uh, some respected places with a little tiny bit of juice on the Patriots. Um my, my power ring from the four. Um. You know, I don't know. I mean, I still have like belief in Patriots, you know, strategy, although you know, like you said, cam Newton had less than a hundred yards passing that they win by forty five points. You know, uh, I think that number is a little steep, but I will open six just because I see six and a half's out there. But I'm gonna stand on the lower end of this. If I see this game dropping, I'm gonna drop a little bit myself. Um, Like I said, I just I when we get to these Thursday games. I've always said, I think it's coaching quarterback. The better coach, better quarterback. I give a little edge to certainly at this point down the better quarterbacks with the Rams, And at this point in time, Billichick is certainly better coach filling the blank against anybody. But you know they get you know, they get some three good things going here with the Rams. Like what was his record at that with a lead at halftime, unbelievable thirty four and oh now including playoffs. Yeah, yeah, that's uh. You gotta take note of that. So McVeigh doing a hell of the job there too. But i'm gonna i'm gonna open six. If I see it dropping, I'm gonna go ahead and drop. But I do see six and a half. It's a very key spot. So I don't want to go too far off of that. And we'll drill down on the charges when we get to the Chargers but Rams take the temporary lead of the NFC West now by tiebreaker with that record at eight and four. For those tune again for the first time and you're like, oh, wow, we hit six or he had to make that. Trust me, I get a lot of these wrong. What's what's on Sunday morning? Detroit, Green Bay ad Detroit. Uh, let's see, got sixteen games, no more buys Green Bay at Detroit Green Bay nine and three. They win and cover against Philly yesterday, game clinching seventies seven yard touchdown from Aaron Jones with two thirty six left. Uh. Couple that with seven sacks that with stood a fourth quarter comeback attempts. They beat Philly and cover. As I said on that touchdown for Aaron Jones, thirty to sixteen. What a run it was. They built a twenty three to three lead, did the Packers? For the Eagles scored two touchdowns span of just over a minute. Uh. Their comeback started after rookie quarterback Jalen Hurts took over for an effective Carson Wentz. But Rogers Aaron Rodgers twenty five of thirty four for two nine five, three touchdowns, zero picks, sack twice thirty six touchdowns and four picks on this season for Rogers thirty six and four war in eight eight different games this season, he's had three plus touchdowns and no picks, including that one. Jones fifteen of one thirty for a touchdown seventy seven on that scamper at the end, DeVante ten for one, twenty one, two touchdowns, a four hundred thirty seven to two hundred seventy eight advantage in total yards versus Philly. And then there's Detroit who were coached by Darryl Bevil for the first time. In this game, they get the win against Chicagoy come from behind win thirty four to thirty, and the Lions go to five and seven. Stafford Twenty seven and twenty seven four forty two for four oh two, two touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked twice. Marvin Jones Jr. His big target eight for one sixteen and a touchdown. They were six of eleven on third down against the Bears, one for two on fourth. They had four hundred sixty total yards. Uh Bevel goes from offensive coordinator interim coach. The Lions trailed thirty to twenty early in the fourth after a Mitch Dubisky through an eleven yard touchdown at Cole Comment on a bootleg and uh then Chicago's Blow Nichols intercepted a short side armed nonsense pass that Stafford throws from time to time. It was intended for Jesse James, but the Lions turned it around, cut it to thirty to twenty seven with to eighteen left on the twenty five yard or from Stafford to Jones. And then the Bears had a third down at their seventeen when Romeo Aquara stripped Urbiskie. John Pennini recovered lines took over at the Chicago seven. Peterson a p that is ranted in two plays later. Lions win. But this is the Packers at the Lions. Oh boy, these are the Packers. Lions game tend to be weird over time, though, I'll say the Packers. I'm gonna come out low on this. I bet I'm gonna say the Packers minus six and a half. WHOA, you're way low? How much is eight? Yeah? It's yeah. There was a maintenance, there was, but they're gone. Um. I gotta tell you, I like the Packers share Yeah, I really think you Look at Detroit where they rejuvenated with their one win after they got Matt Patricia off their backs. Probably, but the Lions win the game or did the Bears blow it? You know? I think, you know, we'll get to the Bears obviously a little layer. I think the Bears kind of blew it. I don't know why the Packers seem to not get the respect that they should. My power rings make the Packers ten. I didn't elevate the Lions much off of yesterday's games. They didn't lower the Packers at all, even though they did their best to kind of let Filly back and he did right. Yeah, I think that was that was kind of candy in my humble opinion. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna open eight and a half here. Uh, I see pretty solidate, But I'm gonna open the eight and a half. Take a whack on the lines if they want to take that number off me, because I think this game is gonna head up. Um. That's again one man's humble opinion, and I always say my opinion is worth one bet, So I'm gonna give them one bet if they want to take the eight and a half, that's what I'm gonna open it. The only thing with the Lions is right if if they get Gola Day and Swift back, Um, yeah, you know, then that becomes a different football team. Goladay is the big differentiator with that team. So I don't know, Um, I thought i'd be low. I'm not rushing to bet the Lions based on that. But you're right about You're and you're right. On the other hand about Aaron Rodgers, it just seems like he's just kind of puttering along. We just expected from him, right, thirty six touchdowns at four picks, all right, what's next? Yeah, I mean, he really hasn't been fantastic. Chief. Okay, next up, We've got the Titans at the Jaguars. All right. Titans at the Jaguars were crescendoing by the way the survivor and Anthony lidded so much more. Uh, we just gotta get through a lot of these Titans at Jaguars. Alright. Titans is the one game I got completely wrong. Yesterday. The Browns scored the first seventeen points of the game against the Titans on the way to wait forty one to thirty five win over the Titans, a game that was not nearly as close as the final score suggests the Titans allowed five touchdowns and one field goal on Cleveland's first six possessions. Basically, the Titans fell apart after a bad fourth down spot on their opening drive, which actually survived the challenge as well, was a fourth and short uh. Derrick Henry lost his first fumble on the season on the next drive, and it was just floodgates open at that point. The Titans three and four since starting the season five and oh Ryan Sannah was five for three eight nine cosmetic yards in the end, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked three times and Derrick Henry this is the story of the game, fifteen carries for sixty yards and the lost fumble. Season low in attempts for Henry just fifteen of them. Um Corey Davis eleven one two and a touchdown. Those were both career highs catches and receptions for him, but they were out gained four fifty eight to four thirty one by Cleveland. Despite all the yards at the end, thirty six fourteen disadvantage in time of possession, in other words, Titans only had it for twenty three minutes and fourteen seconds. They were minus two in turn overs They did make it interesting late. They outscored the Rounds to three in the second half, but Andy Jenevis recovered the on side kick to seal the victory. Amazing that the Browns needed to recover an onside kick in that game to seal the victory. And then there was Jacksonville. Uh, most people in Circus survivor little over half, just a tick over half had Minnesota of the remaining one three entries took over time to beat the Jaguars. Minnesota did it on a Dan Bailey chip shot. Bailey had missed a couple extra points earlier in the game. They did twenty four. But Jacksonville, who were talking about here? Glennon two for two eighty one touchdown, two picks, two sacks, He's just not very good in the end, can't make plays when it matters. Robinson, James Robinson eighteen seventy eight and a touchdown, six catches for thirty yards minus two in turnovers were the Jaguars. They had ten penalties for eighty three yards. I mean Glennon and Conley each lost fumbles. As I mentioned the ten penalties for eighty three yards. Chase McLaughlin had a chance to win it in regulation with a sixty two yard field goal fell short, and earlier in the game, Glennon lucked into a touchdown. When you ever, when you do the autopsy of Jaguars games, then you start to think about it, you're like, oh, yeah, they were kind of lucky to be there in the end. Anyway, uh yard touchdown pasted Labisco Chenalt early that was off target. Off target from Glennon, glanced off of Chris Boyd's arm of the Vikings straight back to channel. There was also a pick six for the Jaguars, right, so you know, maybe they should have been in it, maybe they shouldn't have. But this is the Titans at the Jaguars. I'll say Titans by seven minus seven. You're a little no, it's seven and a half. My power rain is coming to eight. I'm sure I don't want a dick or over half a point in a spot like this. But on the Jaguars, you mentioned like the tip past that was like one of the luckiest patch sounds of the year. You also had the pick six like you mentioned, But really, damn Bailey, if he just plays like a normal kicker, you know, then this game really never would have gotten closer over time. Uh, you know, but it did. So I don't want to elevated Jaguars in any way, shape or form. Uh yeah, I give him credit for playing. I got see football game, but I mean that's what they get paid to do. Like I said, I made it eight Titans, um, and I don't want to say they're a sinking ship. They're not. But they're certainly not playing as well as they had earlier in the season. So I'm gonna go ahead and open it to seven and a half. Like I said, power ratings come to eight. That's not an half point. I'm demon worthy to dicker over someone to open seven. Apps what they want to do with that. I think it's a good number. I like the word dicker. By the way, how many coaches, Chris, I mean, we've already had O'Brien, Quinn and Patricia gone, but I'm just thinking around the league five like Marone and Gaze and Lynn and Naggy. Um. I'm forgetting somebody as well. But there's like five other coaches. It's it's a quarter of the league, um that that. Honestly, if you fired the other five today besides the first three, no one would bat An eye. It's just they're so they're they're have done such a terrible job in so many ways. Uh and sadly, if you don't win football games, I mean, like the Jaguars, Maron's gotta be on the hot seat as well. All right, let's do one more here before the break. Dallas at the Bengals. Dallas of the Bengals. Dallas has not played yet. Dallas place tomorrow against Baltimore. Haven't seen Dallas since Thanksgiving. The Bengals that I mentioned Taylor in that group, um yesterday they lose to the Dolphins. They were with him for a half and then Miami just took over in the third quarter of that ballgame. Brandon Allen was eleven of nineteen for one fifty three, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked five times by the Dolphins. He was sidelined with the chest injury. In came Ryan Finley. He was six of seven for forty yards, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked once. Uh. Twelve total first downs for the Bengals in this game against the Dolphins a hundred nineties six total yards, only forty of which were rushing. In a game, by the way that they love the Dolphins. Just get the cover in that one. But a game that featured and I'll just read what it says right here because it's a great description benches, clearing, confrontation and other after the whistle, unpleasant trees. I love that unpleasant Trees. I'm gonna be very unpleasant with you. Five ejections in that game. Zach Taylor. Two seasons with the Bengals, four twenty three and one. Good God, Dallas by four. Again, we haven't seen Dallas, but that's what I'll say. It is sight unseen. Yeah, it's three napps and four. My power ring has come the four, So that's obviously what I'm gonna open. Zach Taylor. You know, I've been knocking him from day one. I mean, he's just not a very good coach. And if they want to get the most out of Borrow, who I think has a potentially will be a terrific quarterback, they gotta get rid of this guy, they really do. And I think he has no no faith from the rest of the players in that locker room. And I think that's kind of evidence they got to get rid of this guy. The Dallas and of sight unseen, and I'm not sure what's to make of them right now? Either four is probably uh, like I said, a good number exactly when my part rady to come to and I do see three and a half and four, But I'm gonna go ahead and open the four. Yeah, here's the list, O'Brien, Quinn and Patricia already gone, Lynn, Naggie, Gaze, Taylor, Maron. Like, would anybody argue with any of those other fives? I mean, Naggy maybe, but I don't know. I think I think Naggy. Yeah, how about Maron? I think Maron you know, you know, they fired a general manager. I would you know, I don't know how much Maron is involved in personnel decision, but the general manager down there did I have terrible, terrible job ever since his tenure started in Jacksonville. So yeah, I vouched for Maron about any of the others, maybe even, But that's a court. I mean, that's a quarter of the league. And then there's always a surprise somewhere. Mike McCarthy will be safe because of the dock injury, and they won't do one and done with Mike McCarthy, so he'll be say I think everybody else is probably say about'll be a surprise somewhere. But that's that's a quarter of the league. Maybe I think his team's come around. Yeah, they're coming. I mean to see how it, see how the season ends. But jeez, watch the game. Just mean compared. Jason does a lot of look out for so and so does a lot of that before the show. I believe lookout for the Lions. It came out of his mouth earlier. Let me just say this, Jason. Let me just say this about Jason conn He was right about which of the big favorites was the one that was going to lose out right in Seattle. So profit Jason Cohn called that one. We'll come back. We'll get some more lines for week fourteen. Oh yes, we have to talk about the Raiders, said survivor, and so much more Chargers as well. What is next? The Cardinals at the Giants, Cardinals at the Giants. But the Cardinals are I guess, I guess Kyler Murray. Guess they figured out Kyler Murray. Huh. They've lost four of five since A five, and to start they lose to the Rams we talked about earlier. By ten, Kyler was twenty one of thirty nine for one seventy three three touchdowns, but one pick that was a pick six, sack twice. He lost a fumble. In the first half, he was three of twelve for seventy three yards, one touchdown note pick, sacked twice. Dan Arnold ended up being his biggest receiver, basically because they were triple teaming DeAndre Hopkins. Dan Arnold was wide open. It's a body down there, you better throw it to him. Two catches, both for touchdowns for sixty one yards. The Giants with the big upset of the week and matches the biggest upset by closing line in the NFL this year, and Jason Cohn called it uh The Giants win matches the largest upset of the season based on points spread. Seahawks closed as a ten and a half point favorite over there at at will Hill. Caesar's by will Hill won four straight out have the Giants. They've won four straight since a one in seven start, four straights and say one in seven start. Their five and seven at top of the NFC East. They've held three straight opponents the seventeen or fewer. Leonard Williams two and a half sacks, five quarterback hits and Colt McCoy everybody thirteen of twenty two for a stellar one oh five, one touchdown, one picky sack twice, Gallman sixteen for one thirty five, Alfred Morris former twelve Washington football team great with two touchdowns. The Giants had a grand total of fourteen first downs. Grizzy there were three of twelve on third down. They only had two total yards. But she looked back at their schedule, now five and seven. They gave the Steelers a fight Week one before Daniel Jones had a couple of a couple of killer turnovers. They held the Rams to seventeen in a road game. Week four, they lost a Dak Dak's Cowboys by three. They lost up Philly by one in a game they dominated. They lost to Tampa by two. Maybe they're good, um M Cardinals by three, I guess you're high. It's two and a half. And I gotta tell you, I'm opening this game too. You got two teams going in completely different directions, and you know you could tell me all these offensive stats. Cold McCoy, who I always kind of like in a role as a as a backup, and he came in yesterday. He played fair at best, he really wasn't very good. But that Giant defense is just terrific. And uh, you know, Judge, the coach for the Giants, I think that's another guy doing a hell of a job. And he you know, listen to New York. Everything gets exaggerated before the year, and in the early courts of everybody said he was too tough on the players. He was this and that. You know, you got knocked quite a bit. And then they got off to a pretty bad start and they lost a lot of close games. But here we go, now, all of a sudden, this team is really coming around. And uh, like I said, not offensively, but I think Daniel Jones, I think it'll be back this week. By the way, just my hunch. Um, imagine if the Cardinals, Sorry, Chris, I apologize. I was just gonna say, imagine if they had a real coordinator except for Jason Garrett a little editorializing the air for um anyway, and I think the Cardinals, you know, you know, you know, we talked about a lot on this show. You know, I wasn't crazy about Murray coming out of college and just thought it was too little m I kind of all of a sudden gave a me a collpla about halfway through this season, saying, okay, finally convinced me. But you know, Kingsbury, I don't like it the coach, and maybe they are figuring out Kyler Murray a little bit. You know, he certainly doesn't fit the mold of any other quarterback. Anyway. I'm gonna open this game too. I'm gonna be a half a point under the market, and if I see going lower, I'm going lower myself. I like the Giants in this game. Yeah, I hated my I hated my guests the second it came out of my mouth. Chris, I really did that three. I think, yeah, I think your number is better. Um. Yeah, if you can keep Kyler Murray in the pocket, all of a sudden, he becomes very ordinary. All right, I gotta take a break. We'll do more. I got a whole bunch to get to guessing lines a week fourteen. Wow, coming back right here at Visa these Sports Betting network. We got the Texans at the Bears. Texas at the Bears, all right. While all the other shenanigans were going on in the NFL and UH New York specifically, most notably the Houston, Texans. We're busy knocking at the door of a potential victory, potential go ahead touchdown at the very least against the Colts and a and they had a chance to take the lead with about ninety seconds left there at the Colts too, when Deshaun Watson there's a snap that is a little low to the outside, a little low and left. Probably should have been able to feel the snap, but he he does not get a hold of it. It's a fumble and Anthony Walker of the Colts pounces on it to secure the twenty six to twenty victory. Oh my goodness. And the Colts get the cover in the process. So just a horrible beat for Texans backers there. It was twenty at the half, finished twenty six to twenty, just the safety. In the second half, DeShawn was twenty six of thirty eight for three forty one, no touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked five times. Um DJ David Johnson ten or forty four with a touchdown. Kiki Kte eight one career high, Chad Hanson five for one oh one career high. These are the guys catching balls for the Texans now. Chad Hanson not Stills, not Fuller, not Hopkins, Hanson five for one oh one, a career high. Uh, and they're playing Who's who? Do you say? Chicago? Oh yeah, Chicago lost to the Lions. We talked about that, Detroit wiping out the ten point deficit in the fourth quarter, recovering a strip sack in the closing minutes to set up to go ahead touchdown, and a thirty four thirty victory over these Bears who have now lost six in a row, six in a row. Mitch Robiski twenty six of thirty four for two sixty seven, one touchdown. Noe s was sack to two times, David Montgomery seventeen for seventy two two touchdowns, four catch us for thirty nine. They were minus two in turnovers. This is this is a little tough line to make. Um, Houston buy three. Uh, yeah, you know, I like I'm gonna the first time in the show, I liked your number better. I made it four. I made Houston four. I see the game as low as one and as high as two and a half. So take your choice anywhere in between their one one and after two. Uh, there's only one one out there, and that's with a lot of early one and a half to two and a half. I'm gonna go on the upper end here go to two and a half. I see it climbing. I'm gonna climb with it myself. That the Bears team, of course, we're always sorry. Bears defense, defense, defense. Well, they didn't played very well yesterday, I gotta tell you. And that was one of the games we mentioned earlier and we talked about the Lions that the Lions winner. Did the Bears just blow it? Well, I make theirs blew it. And that's the team not playing very well. Uh. You know we're talking about Naggy. Did he lose the locker room? It's hard to say, you know, we're looking at the outside, but I can tell you this, they're not playing very good football. Uh. They can go to fold, they go Trabinsky and not any difference that I could see there at all. And the Texans. You know, I gave out the Colts last week on this show. By the way, I gave out the Giants too while worked at it, and uh, I really didn't waste o and the sides I liked. But anyway, the Texans, um I really thought were probably the right side against the Colts yesterday, but they know the one fumble kind of ice to game, and you know they did nothing the second half, meter did the coals um But anyway, I think the Texans, I thought that they're playing great, not that they're in any great shape going forward, but I think the Bears were just even worse. And like I said, I like the higher number. I'm gonna go to two and a half, just because I don't see any threes out there. Uh, and I do see one and a halfs and two, So I'm gonna go with the two and a half. But if I see going higher, I'm I'm going to join the club. Uh. You were three and own in contest picts? Are the ones that you gave out on this show last week? The ones that gave out on the show I had. I had Colts, Giants and Patriots. Nice, I'm two and once it was a new quarterly over at Circle. I'm two in one. Uh. The one that I got completely wrong, as I mentioned earlier, Tennessee and the ones that I got right New England, which was just an auto pick right and Indianapolis, which you can say was lucky, although I could argue they probably should have won that game without that kind of fear. But then I have to I have to place today I'm on in these two games that are being played today. I'm on Pittsburgh, even though it's a bad contest line it's seven and a half, but I'm I'm a lifelong fan of the Washington football team. They do not win this kind of game, and um seven and a half dozen seem high enough to me, So I'm on Pittsburgh. The other one I'm on is the Niners. I mean, that game today between the Bills and the Niners is a sneaky, massive game. Buffalo loses there in a tie with the Miami Dolphins in the a f c's the top of the a f C East. I've got the plus eleven fifty on the Dolphins to win the division from before the season, and then with the Niners, who are sort of an afterthought. The Niners win this game. They're six and six, overcoming probably the worst spade of injuries any team. I mean, I can't imagine a team had worse than this in their first three quarters of the season. Guys were out for the whole season, like Bosa, like Thomas on their defensive line, Guys who have been gone and are just coming back. They win this there six and six, they're on that you know that graphic that they show for the NFC playoff picture in the just on the outside looking in, and they've still got more players on the horizon coming back, most notably Kittle at tight end. So the two massive. I like the Niners tonight. Now, if they lose, that's probably the end of the season. But if they win, Kyle Shanahan ends this season big. He doesn't deserve some Coach of the year thoughts. I mean, that's amazing. Yeah, he's got to be in there by the way, Tomlin goes sixteen and know he's gonna win Coach of the Year. But Belichick, Shanahan, Peyton, Peyton, all these guys. I mean we talked about the bad p yeah, Stefanski, all these guys have just great Jose. So just the chasm between the halves and the half nots and the good and the bad in the NFL, it's like the MLB. Now this year we'll come back. We got more lines to guess. Oh, I know the Raiders are coming. Survivor thoughts on the way, not even halfway through right here on a Numbers game at Viason the Sports Betting Network with Chris Andrews Christy Just some of these games that we've gone over. Houston at Chicago, Dallas a Cincinnattie, Arizona at the Giants. Good weekend to do some Holly Day shopping. Oh my god, I don't like any of these. All right, what's next? Next up? We got Denver at Carolina. Well, there's another one for the med category. Denver at Carolina. Denver, I guess put up a fight last night. I mean that game was very much in the balance against Kansas City. Kansas City ends up beating the Broncos. They do not cover in the process, twenty two to sixteen. I mean, that was a game where the Broncos, first of all, Drew Lock fifteen eight for one one, two touchdowns, two picks, No sex. He's not very good, is he. Melvin Gordon the third fifteen carries for one yards. I just didn't understand why the Broncos just didn't keep running the football. Drove me crazy last night. Just run. Yeah, they were running all over him in the last game, right the Chiefs. Yeah, that last game was a cosmetic win by the Chiefs in terms of the final score. They ran on him and then they just they're like, no, let's just throw. They were set been a thirteen on third downs with the Broncos. They were minus two in turnovers. That usually tells the tale. Carolina was one of the two teams on by this week, so they're gonna be on extra rest here. So it's Denver at Carolina. The key point before we get off is the key point in that game between the Chiefs and the Broncos last night was with what was it over just over six minutes left in this game, and the Broncos are down three points, They're down nineteen to sixteen. It's like a fourth and three. They're about one first down, maybe two, but with Brandon McManus, maybe just one, you know, maybe just ten yards away from being in field goal position, and they decided to punt. I get it. On the one hand, you know, maybe your defense has been good enough, but you still have to assume it's the Chiefs right and that they're gonna matriculate the ball down the field. You may never get another chance, and they did get another chance, but it wasn't much of a chance. So late in the game, down X, I'll say Carolina minus four. Yeah, it's three and a half. There's a couple of places that don't have it up yet, you know, with the Broncos playing late last night class, I'm just seeing that Carolina closed their facility for Monday and Tuesday because of some COVID issues. And of course, yeah, we didn't come to fruition with them being off yesterday. I mean, so we're kind of lacking any any news at that point. So I'm not sure who all is involved. Uh, you know, I think your number is a little high. You know, I don't want to mess with the three, but my number is coming to two and a half. I'm gonna keep an eye on this one. I really I like the lower number legitimately, and if there is COVID issues on the Panthers, that for sure you've got to drop that number. But they did then just came across it closed up facility for today and tomorrow. It's kind of a precautionary measure. Uh. At this point, I think I'm gonna open three and a half. Like I said, I just don't want to. If I mess with the three, I know that may get bit right away. And this is in the game. I want to take a huge stand on because I don't see me doing a ton of business. But you never know. Sometimes any game with a point spread, and especially around the three, you could always do a lot of business. But I'm gonna go ahead open three and a half here, and uh could definitely keep an eye on this one. No one would know better than you about that. You know. I think about the Broncos for a second, and it's like John Elway at GM, vic Fangio, who I didn't even mention right in that list of coaches, Vic Fangio's your coach, and Drew lock is your quarterback. You know, they say, like good baseball teams right down the middle, catcher, pitcher, center field. You have if you're a Broncos fan, do you have any confidence in that triumvirate? Oh my god? Well the other thing too, you know, Pat Balling passed away, and I guess you know right now, they don't have strong ownership. I guess it's his daughter. It's taken over. But you know, I attack Balling. I think was a great owner. And now you know, I mean, so you go right down you know, owner, general manager, coach, quarterback and not a pretty picture right now. Yeah, not at all. All right, let's do one more before the break. Vikings at Tampa Bay, Vikings at Tampa Bay. Well, this has implications for the Vikings certainly again, as we mentioned, the Vikings needed overtime to beat Jacksonville yesterday to twenty four, but Dan Bailey did miss two extra points. The Jaguars gotta pick six in that game, the Jaguars gotta touchdown where literally bounced off the back of one of the Vikings. But the Vikings were one in five and they have. They have clawed their way back to even here at six and six, fully in the running for the playoffs entering the final quarter of the seasons. The fifth win in six games. Bailey's twenty three yard or with one forty nine left it overtime after he missed those two extra points and a fifty one yard try with thirteen seconds remaining in regulation, lifting the Vikings to a twenty seven to twenty four victory over the Jaguars. Harrison Smith setting up Bailey's redo with a diving pick at the Jacksonville forty six, the fourth turn over the game, but fourth turnover rather of the game by the Jaguars. Kirk Cousins forty three for three oh five, three touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked four times. Dalvin Cook thirty two for one twenty Remember it was a week ago and Dalvin got hurt and it looked like when they were taking him off the field, they're like, oh, man, that not only is he not coming back in this game, but he may be done for the season. He came right back in that game thirty two for ones. Way in this one. It's amazing. Justin Jefferson nine for one twenty one in a touchdown. And I mentioned this. I don't know if I mentioned it on a Numbers game or in primetime action last week, but Aaron Shots from Football Outsiders, pioneer of football analytics, through his proprietary stats of d v o A, he believes this season from Justin Jefferson is the greatest rookie is on pace, I should say with four games left. This was with five games left when he said this is on pace for the greatest rookie season for any wide receiver in the last thirty five years, as far back as Football Outsiders data goes on a play by play basis, that's better than Randy Moss's rookie year that's better than Michael Thomas's rookie year. I mean, that's saying something. And then he goes out and does what he did yesterday nine for one too when he wanted a touchdown. And so I guess I ask you just brief aside before we get to this line, which is Minnesota at Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay coming off a bye Justin Justin Herbert has three wins and they're all against crap teams. Are we sure that he's the rookie of the year when a guy like this is, according to Aaron Shots, is having the greatest year a rookie receiver has ever had in a in a in more than a generation. I don't know, Adam Feeling by the way, eight for seventy five and a touchdown the Vikings again, plus two and turnovers Jags turned it over four times. Um, I don't know. I don't ask that rhetorically. What do you think you think it's Justin Herbert's award? I'm not sure I think Gainst Herberts Award. Yeah, I do, you know, But I mean it depends on how how in depth these voters go. Right, You're right, maybe Jefferson does deserve it. But right now, Herbert's WoT making all the news. Um, you know yesterday's game, of course, you know. So we'll see what happens last four or five games of the season here. But I think it's Herbert's to lose for sure. Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably the case. I guess what I'm saying is we we we tend to think of these things that's fade up complete way earlier than we should, right. And I used the Chris sales Cy Young Award example from a few years ago in baseball. It's like, oh, it's absolutely his award, and then all of a sudden it wasn't right, Like you can't stop playing, and Herbert's not stopping to play. But if you've only beaten three teams, if the Charges have only beaten three teams, and those three teams are the Jets, the Jaguars, and the Bengals, everybody's unassailable worst three teams in the National Football League, can you still win Rookie of the Year. I don't know, especially when this wide receiver is doing historical things. I don't know. Minnesota at Tampa Bay. I think it's worth bringing up Minnesota Tampa Bay Tampa Bay on extra rest, the Vikings on the outside looking in now in the playoff picture, but in the mix, I will say the Buccaneers minus six, you're a little light. It's six and a half. And maybe it's he's six and a half juice of the favorite one seven juice on the dog. I gotta tell you, I like the lower number here. Um. You know what Tampa Bay reminds me of, kind of that you have that friend or something that you're always making an excuse for that you know, I know he drinks too much. Yeah, I know he's always late. I know he's you know, got problems at home. And you know that's what Tampa Bay reminds me of. We just keep, you know, making excuses for him that you know, they're gonna be one of the best teams in the league and all this and uh yeah, I and they had that great game against Green Bay, but they had some real clunkers too. You know, I don't know, you know, the story, the narrative that's been out there with their week off, as you know, Arians and Bread, you're gonna get on the same page. You're gonna fix this offense that has been you know, showing signs of being really really good but then showing signs of being not so good at all. Um, you know I'm gonna go ahead open six and a half just because I see it going higher, you know, but I certainly want to take a bet is uh. You know, I think Minnesota and I didn't like their games, maybe because I kind of needed them in that one contest that I don't want to talk about, but you know I do they're playing pretty good ball, and I just I don't have a lot of faith in Tampa right now. I just I just don't. But I will open six and a half just like I said, because I do see it going higher, and the way I see the betting trend, this one may end up at seven. And I'd be very happy to take a bet on camp of my US six and a half, and so wants a plenty of that, alright. So six and a half is it over the contest that I don't want to talk about. By the way, just a flush out what I was saying for those who for those who care about the Justin Jefferson thing. Uh d way d y A R is the stat that Aaron Shots uses for these defense adjusted yards above replacement uh and his top ten years for rookie wide receivers. Just because this is interesting to look back at. Ernest Gibbons, number ten Oilers, number nine A. J. Green twenty eleven Bengals, Number eight Juju for the Steelers in twenty seventeen. Number seven Lee Evans for the Bills in two thousand four. I remember that number six Keenan Allen with the Charges. Number five Michael Clayton for the Buccaneers in two thousand four, Number four Odell Beckham Jr. With the Giants, Ineen, number three Randy Moss is unbelievable Viking season, number two Michael Thomas with the twenty sixteen Saints. And number one is justin Jefferson this year on pace for number one coming back. We're halfway through and the juicy ones are coming. Guessing lines right here on the numbers game of vicent these Sports Betting Network week fourteen and in the process looking back at week thirteen and hopefully in the process extracting some line value. I don't like anything the first hour, to be quite honest with you. Usually by this by this point I like something. A couple of clarifications. One, first of all, Chrissie. What Chrissy said is right. With these awards, you're handicapping the voters, you know, more than anything here. In fact, that's a percent of the game. Well, they care about Aaron Shots has a vote over their football outsiders, but it's just one vote about the Justin Jefferson thing. Uh, this is from three jack h three on three one. Please keep leading the offensive Rookie of the Year brigade for Justin Jefferson as he shows me a screenshot of his twenty eight to one on Justin Jefferson doing that hashtag hashtag vested interest, Chris and then el Montestro, not el my Astro, el Metestro. For what it's worth, Herbert doesn't have the win against Cincinnati. That was the first game of the year with torodd starting. So so you're right, it's only the two against Jacksonville and the New York Jets. Can Rookie of the Year win two games? Well, I think that I think a lot of that's gonna get Pitmo and Anthony Lynn and probably rightfully. So Yeah, I'm just saying it's worth a discussion. Quarter of the season left, all right, Um, I think we got some good ones coming what's next at Miami Kansas City at Miami. Oh, that's a good game. There you go the the eleven and one Chiefs who keep pushing your Stiller's Steelers again playing playing Washington today. Chiefs when they beat the Broncos, don't cover. Chiefs are just one of these teams. Man, where's like they? First of all, that should have been a bigger win to write. The Tyreek Hill touchdown yesterday is on a non touchdown? Pardon me? Is unlike anything I've ever are scene unbelievable. First of all, a wide receiver who who never put up a fight, what's alive? It looked like he caught the touchdown. So he goes down. For those who missed it, he goes down to the turf with the defender. The ball pops up in the air and lands right back in Tyreek's lap and the referee without missing a beat. The officials like, not, it's incomplete. Well, the defender was on top of him, like you almost couldn't even imagine that the ball could get through. Well, I think those hit the ground. No. I think those of us watching it, a lot of us were like, no, he caught that. I could imagine it but it looked like it, but it was still hard to believe. But he didn't complain, and then Andy Reid and coaching staff didn't wait for a replay like what was the rush? Anyway, that game should have been worse now that I think about it. Harrison Butker perfect on five field goal attempts, clinched the playoff berth Um do the Chiefs. But again that fourth and three with six minutes to go, coach Vic Fangio of the Broncos electing to punt the ball away and the Chiefs melted most of the clock before Butker kicked a forty eight yard or with one oh six left for the final score. Patrick Mahomes twenty five of forty three eighteen one touchdown note picks. He was sacked once with Chris Collinsworth gushing all over them, all over him all game long. Trap this Kelsey eight for one thirty six and a touchdown Tyreek as I mentioned six or fifty eight. But it was that third and ten at the Denver forty early in the second quarter where he was a wide open looked like he dropped it, that he caught it. He didn't complain. The Chiefs didn't wait for a replay, they end up punting. When do you ever see a wide receiver? And I complained about something like that, Tyree just got him and went back. Um okay, four forty seven total yards for the Chiefs even without that, plus two in turnovers they learned early Sunday. By the way, I don't know if anybody saw this early Sunday morning, the Chiefs had seven positive COVID tests. At least they were They returned seven positive COVID tests, but it wound up being a computer glitch and the game was allowed to proceed. Weren't positives at all, So that happened. In case you missed it in the middle of the night, that could have been interesting. I wonder if the same people complaining about people picking the Saints and Survivor the previous week would have complained about their own Chiefs pick that week. And then there's the Miami Dolphins. Chiefs had Dolphins, you said, Dolphins one for the seventh time in eight games to achieve their best twelve game record since two thousand three yesterday to thirty nine for two nine six, one touchdown, one pick, wasn't sacked. Tagola improved to four and one as a rookie starter with seven touchdown passes and still no picks. He played with a with a thumb on his throwing hand taped warmed up as the game war on. He threw for a hundred sixty seven yards and the pivotal third quarter one sixty seven and the third gaskin twenty one ninety on the ground two for fifty one receiving Mike Gasicki, nine catches for eighty eight and a touchdown. The Dolphins were one of ten on third downs, one of ten only the last one skill Alexander Chris Sanders guessing lines right here in the numbers game at Visa the Sports Betting Network guessing lines for week fourteen, looking back at week thirteen, hoping to extract some value in the process, right here on best in these Sports Bending Network. One of ten on third downs were the Dolphins one of one on four and I think that third down was late if I'm not mistaken, four oh six to one advantage in total yards versus the Bengals, though limited Cincinnati to twenty five yards after halftime and finished with six sacks. The defense has allowed ten points total in the past two weeks. Um Kansas city will be favorite. The question is by how much. This is the tough stretch now for the Dolphins. They're hoping for the Bills lost today to get them in a tie, but then they got to navigate this final stretch. I'll say Chiefs minus seven, that's what I made it. Seven. But it's seven and a half from I'm seating the lower um some of the go ahead, no bit to seven and a half. If I see it drop, I think they will drop a little bit myself. I'll tell you what I really did like the So I liked about two of yesterday. Uh, he was terrible the first half, and Flora's stuck with him, and he came through and he played really well the second half. Remember where's this QBR. I think it's like sixty seven. No, I'm sorry, seventy two. I can't even read my own writing, you know. So he wounded up with a very good game, you know. And again we talked about bad coaches. Here's a good coach for from Miami. This guy's doing a hell with job. I've done it since last year. Another Coach of the Year candidate. Right, Yeah, he's I really like him, man, I like him a lot. Um but meanwhile, you know, the chief there's still a Chiefs, but they they didn't look sharp. But we're talking about that cats, the none kids. He said that when when was the last time a receiver didn't complain? I mean, how many bad how many bad reviews did Andy Reid have, like a bunch of him, and this was one where he just kind of didn't even think about it. It looked like you know, and I'm like you, I saw it live. I'm like, oh, he caught that. He caught it. Um So anyway, but I'm gonna go with seven and a half. You know, just we we don't usually have trouble begging for Chiefs money, and even yesterday Wise guys were all over the dog in that Chiefs game late last night, but as as we went in, we still neeted the underdog. So, you know, like I said, we never have to go begging for Chiefs money. So I'm gonna open it seven and a half. Although I do like the seven a little bit better. What I like about this show is that I think almost every show this year, We've had at least one game where I've been like, what and it was a bettable game? I guess Green Bay Detroit is the one I've been most off on so far, and I still don't love that. By the way, last four games for the Dolphins the the hard part of their schedule. Kansas City, New England both at home, then at Las Vegas at Buffalo. What's next? Yeah, uh next, we got the Colts at the Raiders. There it is, there, it is the Colts. The Texans again on that Deshaun Watson, mishandled errand snap. The Colts now four and oh following a loss this season. Philip Rivers seven thirty five, two eighty five, two touchdowns, no picks, sack three times, Jonathan Taylor thirteen of nine ninety one on the ground, three catches for forty four yards and a touchdown. T Y Hilton eight for one ten and to touchdown justin Houston. On defense, three sacks in his safety, DeForest Buckner two sacks. Colts are allowing an average of seven point three three points in the second half of games this season. That is it. So there's the culture Review beating the Texans yesterday to twenty and covering because of that fumble at the end. And then there's the Raiders. Derek Carr I had the Raiders. Just say this again, because we've gone an hour without talking about Survivor, We're talking about it now. I had the Raiders Derek Carr, for those who missed it, a forties six yard touchdown past to Henry Ruggs the third with five seconds left, lifting the Raiders to a wild thirty one to eight win over the still winless New York Jets. On Sunday, the Jets had taken a lead with five thirty four remaining on Ty Johnson's one yard touchdown. Defense came up with a big fourth down stop that appeared to end uh New York's winless season, but New York went three and out with a chance to seal it. Let me just say on that three and out looked like on the third down play, Ti Johnson might have been out of bounds, but the refs kept the clock moving on the Raiders um and then Car and the Raiders had thirty five seconds left to try for what appeared to be an unlikely comeback. Three plays later, deep bald A Galore car missed him and a Gala was behind the defense. Next play, which is the fourth play into their final drive, third and ten from the Jets, forty six with thirteen seconds left, car Finds Rugs streaking down field, touched down, delivers the ball perfectly touchdown Lamar Jackson on the coverage. We'll get to that in a second. Raiders win. Raiders, by the way, they don't win at that point. Then with five seconds that the Raiders squip kick. They think they're being clever and it gets like knocked down like a like a sharp ground ball at the fifty. So with four seconds left, Sam Donald and the Jets have a final chance. Hail Mary. That was a legit. Hail Mary, batted down in front of the end zone. I could go through these stats. I'll get to the point here, KRT, thank you, oh long version. I like it. Congratulations for being a survivor. Thank you. If you could have have taken a video of me when that touchdown was scored, you would see a madman. Can you show people the text that I sent you when you when you texted me, you texted me congratulated whatever it was when that happened, exclamation boys or whatever. Here is the text that I showed Jason. I don't have a screen in front of me, so I can't see this coming up. Um, But basically, it was just gibberish. I just couldna just texting wildly there. It is just just letters randomly miracle. Um, okay, look, I said, let's just know the cerebral stuff first, I said last week again, I don't know if it was on a numbers game or on Primetime action. I can never remember what's what now, But I said, why don't the Raiders just go to Darren Waller every play? Darren Waller thirteen catches for two hundred yards for two touchdowns. Called that twelve tight ends since the nineteen seventy merger with a hundred fifty or more yards receiving and two or more touchdown catches in a game. Now, let's get to this. Let's get to this final play. Henry Ruggs had a key fumble earlier in the fourth quarter. The Jets were up eleven. The Jets were up eleven in the fourth quarter. Excuse me, the Raiders were up eleven early in the fourth quarter, So only the Raiders didn't blow this. The Raiders should have won this easily. They're up eleven in the fourth quarter. They give up a nineties six yard drive to the Jets and a two point conversion is a three point game, and then Ruggs fumbles after a catch that led to the Jets go ahead touchdown. All of a sudden, You're like, I cannot believe this is happening. Now here's the formation for those looking at Visa dot Com in the Visa app, here's the Jets defensive formation. And on the top of the screen you see Henry Ruggs single covered by Lamar Jackson. Not that Lamar Jackson, undrafted rookie Lamar Jackson. What you will see on a subsequent shot of this is Lamar Jackson bites on a Henry Ruggs fake. Remember the Raiders have no timeouts left. There's thirteen seconds left of the game. On third and ten, Ruggs doesn't in move and Lamar Jackson single coverage bites on it. Henry Ruggs does one thing better than any human on Earth, almost run by you, and that's what he did. Derek car hit it. It's just incredible. Here's a Michael Lombardi tweak and we have the Michael Lombardi tweet on this um. He's so aptly puts it. And again, I don't have a screen in front of me. Jason so I'm going, uh, sort of off the top here, but Lombardi rights Greg Williams. Running zero coverage or or no coverage at that point is coaching malpractice so bad. I feel for the Jets and their players. Should not have been called, nor should gaze of have allowed him to make the call horrible. On Sunday Night Football and NBC last night, Rodney Harrison called Greg Williams selfish and I point out complimented by Lamar Jackson biting on the rugs fake with no help behind him. But can we put the ESPN Stats and Information tweet up there, because this really sums it up. The Jets made an unprecedented play call to end their game versus the Raiders. There were two fifty two pass plays meeting this criteria the last fifteen seasons final fifteen seconds down four to eight points, forty plus yards to the end zone. In other words, a kind of hail Merry situation. They were the first defense to send six plus pass rushers in that situation and left an undrafted rookie free agent on an island with the fastest man in the league and he bites on a fake. Greg Williams just got information from below recently fired. Fired this morning, Greg Williams fire. It is so and justifiably so again Rodney Harrison calling himselfish. What a checkered career. Greg Williams has had checkered because he's had some great defenses that he's coordinated, but then the whole Paul of what happened to Paul over him in New Orleans most notably, and this yesterday is just unforgivable. Remember with Tanka Blues, as we talked about, it's never the players who are tanking, and I'm not even sure Greg Williams was. He just might have been arrogant and selfish. And goodbye Greg Williams. Now. I had them in Survivor the Raiders and I went ballistic. There's my again. My texted Jason, It's just I don't even know how to even put it. I if you had a if you had a video of me Chrissy, but I thought I was a caged animal. I went nuts. Nine one entries left, and Survivor hundred and ninety started with one thousand dollars a pop. Everybody got through except for those who had the Seahawks. So we're down from one oh three to nine nine left out of th hundred ninety with four weeks left in this season. Steelers do have two people attached them today. I think they'll be okay. But five groups now have multiple entries, meaning five have two entries eighty one others have just one, of which I am one of which others that I know are in that group too. No names, and that's the deal. Ninety one left? What an escape? I look back all at the what is it? Thirteen? Now? Yeah, we've had thirteen weeks? No pardon me, we had fourteen weeks of Survivor and we just came through. Okay, we've had thirteen, right, because Thanksgiving was the other one. No pardon me, we've had fourteen, right Thanksgiving? I've got fourteen? No, please, fourteen. We've had fourteen so far. Six of mine have been complete escape jobs, complete escape none more so than yes none more so than yesterday. But don't kid yourself. Five others have been complete escape jobs too, and yet here we are. Okay, that's enough, all right, Christie? What were we talking about again? Who are the Raiders playing? We need a line on. But before yes, I just want to comment on your diets ride there. Did anybody remember Greg Easterbrook and easter write for ESN dot com. Yes in Tuesday Morning Quarterback and it was all I he loved that. I mean in eastern Brook fly me. I disagree with a lot of stuff he said. I wrote some things about politics, science, but of course a lot about the football game. But you know, whatever game was during the weekend. But one of the things that he founded on a lot was teams over blitz and uh and this, um, what's the coach of naim? Greg Williams was one of the guys that he highlighted. Jim has It was the other one. So a lot of times there's just only one way to lose a game, and that's the over blitz. And that's exactly what Williams did yesterday. There's no way for them to lose the game except for doing exactly what he did. Um you know and uh, you know that was really coaching malpractice, just absolutely ridiculous. And after the New Orleans fiasco, I never thought Williams would get another job in the NFL. And the other thing that I thought was interesting, the Jets were on the verge of signing Matt Rule to be their head coach. Got by the way Matt Rule, guy who I think is when the hell of a job. But one of the things, you know, the I guess the Johnson family that owns the Adjuts, that you have to keep Greg Easterbrook, Greg Williams as your defensive coordinator. And and Rule wouldn't bite, you wouldn't do it. He went looking elsewhere. And so there's another great management decision by the Jets right there. They could have Matt Rules their head coach. It would have been way better than this guy. But you know that, just you know, just we keep piling on. But everything we were polling on is deserved. Just a horrible, horrible I think. But anyway, now you've got to make a number of Colts at the at the Raiders, Colts at the Raiders colts by I'm gonna say Colts minus four and a half because after living through that Raiders defense yesterday, it should be four and a half. I want me just say this. I'm in I'm ant survivor. I did not have the Raiders, so I was greatly rooting against you there. Did not know that. You didn't know that anyway, you made it four and a half. I made it three. As soon as you know my power rings come three and as soon as I made the drift the boy, I think it's too high, you know, I think it's two. I really, I think the Colts are just yeah, they're too inconsistent. Um so it's two and a half. I see three with juice on the dog. Uh see some two and a half with some juice on the favorite. But I like the two and a half. Like I said, I thought my number was was too high, even though that's what they came with. So I am going to open two and a half in this game. And uh, I think they have our first place from I think we do. I like the Colts. I like the Colts, by the way. By the way, of course, I being tongue in cheek, not only do I not not only do I know that you're a survivor. I know you're every move and by the way, Rex Ryan Rex Rex Ryan uh said quote about the play call yesterday, dumbest call I've ever seen. Been around the thing for fifty eight years, by thing, he means football, thirty years as a coach. That's the dumbest call ever. There's a time and place for cover zero. That shurine it It's just stupid hashtag Jets and Tom Pellicero, As Jason I mentioned, the first to report the Jets have fired defensive coordinator Greg Williams, per sources, that's as long as it took. I will never forget that play. Ever, how many games do we get to that segment? Jason, we gotta we're behind. That was only one we had the Chiefs and then the Okay, all right, we got six games left to get to. Um, but that is my first I think that's the first play that I like. They're Indianapolis. That Raiders defense is a trocious Oh my god, are they bad? Um Cleveland Ferrell who wasn't supposed to play and ended up playing two huge strip sacks in that game though for the Raiders. That was a key, key contributor for the Raiders eventually being in that position. But again, they were up eleven in the fourth quarter. Should have never come to that. Henry Rooks Man, I wish there was a video of me that moment. We'll come back. We'll get to all of them guessing lines with my mish book of Chrissy. Next right here on the numbers gameing visa the sports betting network m we got the Jets at the Seahawks. Hey, have we talked about the Jets at all? Uh? Jets Jet? I don't know. I forget Jets at the Seahawks. By the way, the Jets, with their own twelve record, now tie the team mark for the longest overall losing streak, which spanned the n and ninety six seasons coached by Chrissie rich Code tight New York remains on pace to join the two thousand eight Detroit lines in sev Cleveland Browns as the only NFL seems to go oh in sixteen Donald yesterday fourteen for twenty three for one eight six, two touchdowns, one pick. He was sacked three times hundred forty four of those hundred eighties six in the first half. Again, the Jets just couldn't do anything in the air in the second half, but Ty Johnson and the running game was cruising twenty two for one oh four in the touchdown for Ty Johnson. Frank Gore got concussed, didn't play most of this game. The Jets had two hundred six rushing yards against the Raiders. Jamison Crowder five for forty seven, two touchdowns. You said there at Seattle Man the Seattle Seahawks, Jason Conn again producing number seven, calling it that that was the mind, that was the team that was gonna lose. Of all the big favorites. We had a mess of big favorites this week, eight of them still something to come already today and tomorrow, still to come to day and tomorrow. But Seattle Man they lose to the Giants seventeen to twelve, as ten and a half or eleven point favorites, matching again the biggest upset by that number this year in the NFL. Russell Wilson was forty three for two sixty three. He had one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked five times, and some of those just from holding the ball too long. Fourth game this season he's had with two plus turnovers. They're oh and four of the Seahawks are when he does that. There were only four of thirteen on third down, there were only zero of two on fourth. The Seahawks also dropped four passes, including one that led to an interception as they were trying to mount a fourth quarter comeback. But it's the Jets at Seattle, and this is going to be the absolute most pick survivor pick next week for sure, because most people still have the Seahawks at their disposal. I really do that twelve people had the Seahawks yesterday, which is a curious thing to get into from a survivor strategical standpoint, because eleven of those twelve had either the Raiders or the Vikings to choose from. Just to select two teams, they must have either hated all the other options or just had something else going on, because again, they had this game next week. I'll say the Seahawks. God, I mean, it's ten and a half at the lowest, fourteen at the most. I'll split the difference. I'll say I'll say twelve and a half. It's thirteen and a half out there, even a little bit of thirteen and a half with juice on the favorite he won. Uh do she one number higher than that? You know, my numbers come to eleven. Um. I don't like the way the Seahawk team is playing, and uh, you know they you know Russell Wilson. I kind of joked earlier in the year that how I hated rooting against him every week and seemed like I had to do that. But he is not having a very good year. I think six weeks into the season, everybody had him pretty much penciled into the m v P. Didretty much golf, um, you know, and you know, one of the things I really you know, football is constantly changed, and one of the things that I think that we see a lot is the best quarterbacks it's processing the ever accurately, process and deliver accurately. That's really not Wilson's game. You know. He needs to drop back because he is smaller, shorter, uh, And it's not that's that's not what he does. By the way, we're talking about Brady earlier. That was his best part of the game. But you know, airing is kind of taking that away from him. Um. But anyway, I just think I don't want to say they figured him out, but he doesn't have a lot of help. Um. And he think that he does with metcalfs and you know, lock it and all that, you know, but he doesn't have a lot of time usually. So I don't know. I don't like the way they're playing. You know, I'll open thirteen af because everybody's gonna bet against the Jets. But I see that dropping lower. I'm gonna go a little lower myself, and it gets too high alright, thirteen and a half open from Christie on this one. Uh Seahawks hosting the Jets. All right, Um, by the way, how about DK metcalf, Like absolutely just face face crushing somebody. They'll throw a flag on that off a deefense. You can't even cough on the guy. But man, you can just absolutely destroy somebody's face and not get flagged on offensive that game yesterday, Seahawks Giants. We'll come back more to get to guessing lines with Chrissy right here in the numbers game at Visa these sports betting network. All right, what's next, Chris? Anybody taking note someone that I am going to change the Kansas City opening number to seven. I'm gonna go seven. Yeah, you've come back, all right? Next up, we got Falcons a Chargers. All right, Falcons lose to the Saints. We haven't talked about that game. Matt Ryan nineteen of thirty nine for two seventy three, one touchdown. Note Pixie was sacked three times Ridley five for one oh eight Julio six or ninety four in the Falcons loss to the Saints yesterday, Saints twenty one Falcon sixteen Saints cover in a game that the Saints actually had to hold onto at the end. Um probably should have wanted by by more. I was so into the Raiders game. I didn't get all the nuances of that. But the Chargers, as we talked about, forty five to nothing loss to the Patriots, it is the worst single loss in franchise history period. They're eliminated from playoff contention. They have not beaten a team with more than two wins this season. Let me say that again. They have not beaten a team with more than two wins this season. The three and nine Chargers, the Jets, the Jaguars, and the Bengals. They were shut out at home for the first time since n obviously a new stadium. They've allowed twenty seven plus points in nine straight games for the first time in franchise history. They gave their coach Anthony lenn a contract extension in February, coming off of five and eleven season. Let's not forget about that. John Spanos, son of owner Dean Spanos, and general manager Tom Tolesco. They're not going anywhere those two. By the way. They reassigned their special teams coach George Stewart on November twenty but their struggles in that phase absolutely continued yesterday, as we mentioned a a just a tour to force of special teams gaffs punt return touchdown, block field goal return touchdown on and Gunner Olszewski of the Patriots three punt returns for a hundred forty five yards for forty eight point three yards per return average. By the way, can we show that tweet about the Chargers because this is as damning as anything we will ever see. This is uh, this is is a Dan Popper. This is from Daniel Popper, rights for the Athletics, the Chargers guy for the Athletic. The Patriots lined up to punt five times in this game. He writes, the Chargers had the wrong number of players on the field for three of those five one on one series. They lined up for a punt with twelve, got flagged and gave up the first down, then lined up with ten, four snaps later. It's a joke. It's a joke. It's a joke. I mean, listen, we've talked about when Anthony Lynn finally does get fired, we're gonna have to pour out a forty for him on this show. Like it's gonna be kind of a sad moment in the most bizarro kind of worry and most bizarro kind of way. Uh are jus Falcons? I mean the Falcons are a favorite. I'm sorry, charges can't be a favorite anymore. It's not gonna be three though, I'll say it's with the difference. I'll say Falcons minus one and a half. But you're a lot closer than me. But I like my number a lot better. It's two and a half Falcons. I made the game six. Wow, I mean, this team is just falling apart. You went over some of the highlights yesterday, you know, I you know it was one of those you know. I went on the air last week. I loved New England and when there was a room were out that cam wasn't gonna play. A lot of money showed on the Chargers. I went to two chargers and it looked like you was. I went back to one and a half and just said, well, I'm gonna let say, you know, the money dictate where I go from here, because evidently there was something maybe not a d percent with Newton. I mean, it was just a ridiculous, absolutely embarrassing performance. I have a grading system that I use and I was just looking at it while we were talking there. I mean, I think it's the worst grade I've given a team this year by like, by like twelve thirteen points. That's how bad this you know game was, you know, I mean, are they gonna rally behind coach Lynn? I don't see it. Uh you know, I'm gonna open this game three and you know it's there's two's out there in some two and a half. And you know how these wise guys are when they see a three where it's the only three out there, they act like they'll never see another three again the rest of their lives. So they will beat down the doors about this street take the plus three, but they could have it. I mean, I want no part of the Chargers from here on in none. That was just such a ridiculous performance from a horribly coached team. And uh you know, now you know Atlanta at least their media and that's you know, high praise for what they started out at, their mediocre team. I'm I want no parts of the Chargers in this game. Ye I can't blame you. I can't blame you, and I I the more you talk through that, the more I'm thinking to myself. You almost have to, Just like the Patriots was the absolute only bet you could make yesterday because it was the ultimate Belichick versus Lynn. I'm not so sure you couldn't bet the Chargers anymore until you see something different, you should and anything that's close to a pick them every time. It's sort of auto play. Just a CROs corrosive football team. My god, um, I think that might be pick number two Indianapolis in Atlanta. The more the more I talked through that despite my guests, all right, we got four more games to get to, although I think a couple of these are gonna involve teams that haven't played yet Today and tomorrow, so there won't be much to say about them. Remember double header today with lines moving Big Pittsburgh down to a six and a half point favorite against Washington. That's a five pm Eastern two pm Pacific start. Teaser opportunity. I'm all about Pittsburgh, have him in the contest. And then Buffalo San Francisco, huge game for both teams. Niners favored by one after being three point dogs. I'm on the Niners. That's an eight fifteen Eastern Pacific start. Doubleheaded Dallas Baltimore tomorrow. Four more games to get to. We'll get to him next for Week four teen. Right here on guessing lines and numbers. Game in Visa the sports betting network State at the Eel. All right, this is lay game New Orleans again. Fleshing out the Atlanta victory yesterday. New Orleans victory over Atlanta. I should say the twenty one to sixteen final score. New Orleans got the big defensive stop and needed in the closing minutes to preserve the victory. Atlanta got a touchdown with seven forty three remaining. New Orleans hadn't allowed to touchdown since the opening drive of a game against San Francisco way back on November fifteen. It was a span of fourteen quarters without one. But they do get it. They clinched the playoff. They clinched a playoff birth is their fourth year in a row. Coupled with Chicago's loss to Detroit, those two things clinched the playoff birth for them. Their winning that loss, uh, it's their ninth win in a row. Eight no without breeze. Now since we started last year three and o this year, Hill was twenty seven thirty seven for two thirty two two touchdowns note picks. He was sacked twice fourteen for eighty three on the ground. He did lose to fun Bulls, though the first coming deep in Atlanta territory that really sparked the Falcons come back. Four total yards two seven on the ground. Thomas was nine for one oh five. And then there's the Eagles. Eagles lose to the Packers, who we mentioned. Carson Wentz was six for fifteen for seventy nine yards, sacked four times. He was benched. Finally in the third quarter. Jalen Hurts came in five for twelve for one oh nine, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked three times. His thirty two yard or thirty two yard touchdown past to Greg Ward on fourth and eighteen sparked the Eagles Jalen Reagor seventy three yard punt return after that cut the lead of twenty three to sixteen was six thirty left. Uh though Jake Elliot missed the extra point. They did allow three plus sacks the Eagles in ten straight games now seven yesterday. But I don't know. Maybe it's Jalen Hurts and and Doug Peterson saying he will not commit to a starter yet for this game. But New Orleans at Philly, I'm saying New Orleans minus seven and a half yeads six and happened seven. I made the game eight, So I'm gonna be on the higher end here like the seven. I mean, I think, you know, I think I'm gonna put a dot next to the Saints or two that I got. The Eagles my ratings a member just dropping like a rock. I mean, they just they look in disarray. And I heard rumors at Peters in one mind getting fired. And that was one of the things that I always said about college coaches, like something guys said, I won't want to be a college coach. You have to find a new quarterback every couple of years. And I said, well, I think it's the opposite. I think you want to be a college coach because you get to find a new quarterback every couple of years. I mean, I think, you know, Philly, they're kind of stuck with Wines. They're stuck like million or something. Next year, you can cut them. Yeah, they can't cut him next year. They can hope to trade him. That's their way out. If somebody wants to trade for him, that's their way out to trade. I'm with you, though, I like New Orleans there, I like New or Indianapolis and four all right, last of the non prime time than on Sunday, Washington football team at the four Niners. Okay, so we don't have to spend much time on this because again, Washington plays Pittsburgh today six and a half point dogs, and the Niners are one point favorites against the Bills Washington San Francisco. And I'm way more bullish on the Niners than most, but sight unseen this this could hover around a touchdown. To me, I'll be high. I'll make the Niners a seven point favorite. That's how much I think. That's how much better I think the Niners are than Washington as a placeholder. Well, you're You're way way high. It's anywhere between four, four and a half. And I even see a five out there. Give me the Niners. I like four. Yeah, I like you know, it's weird. Though we had a lot of money showing Washington today, a lot of it. I don't get it. The Niner game was one of the craziest bet I ever saw. We opened Buffalo two and a half. They couldn't wait to lay it up to three and the Floodgate open. I mean, I need the bills pretty good today, I can tell you that. But yeah, the Niner is interesting just because of their situation. I think I'm gonna open for I'm gonna think about it. I might. I might wind up opening four and a half. It's just a very weird game. You had big money, big money show on both teams that I opened Washington, I opened them ten or the Steelers ten. Yeah, I opened him ten. So big money showed for both these teams. It's gonna be an interesting bet game, you know. So two things on that. One, I think people are really being influenced by Washington on Thanksgiving, I as a Washington fan, like, I don't get the move today on the Steelers, I get it. Bud Dupree is hurt. But that was a few days back, you know, came well after one. Yeah. Um. And then San Francisco to me that that's so interesting what you're saying about the Buffalo thing. It's it wasn't a point of resistance. It was a boomerang effect. That three. It is weird. Yeah, um yeah, all right, let's go to the primetime game. So I San Francisco will if it's four again, barring the unforeseen today, I'll be all over San Francisco there. What's Sunday night, Steelers at the Bills? Okay, another game that will have nothing to talk about here, because the Steelers haven't played in Buffalo. Um, when was the last time Buffalo played Buffalo? Who they played yesterday? What am I missing on Buffalo? Oh? They played today? That's right? Duh, Okay, I've been talking about him all show. Right, So, and I love and again. I love Pittsburgh today and I love San Francisco today. Site unseen barring the unforeseen, I'll say Pittsburgh by the slightest bit. I mean, this is the game where if the Steelers aren't going to go undefeated, this is the primary suspect. So I'll say Pittsburgh minus one and a half. I'll just split the difference between three and pick or you're dead on My numbers come a lot higher. But I got it. I'm just trying to figure out this move, this monster move on Washington. That Um, it's solid one and a half right now. But I'm gonna open to I want my taking a bet on Buffalo. Um, you know why they're anybody bagging on the Steelers all of a sudden. I just don't get it. I don't get it. Yeah, they're really losing confidence in you know, and undefeated football team with you know, lost one player. I mean, well, people are so affected by recency, right, I mean that game against against Baltimore last week. Just throw that game out. It was delayed. I mean it's postponed three times, like just enough? Yeah? Um, okay, so that's where I thought it would be right now. Okay, well we have one more game and then I'll give you what I think at the end. Alright, so Monday night. What's our Monday night game? The Ravens at the Brown Wow, this this ended quick because all these teams haven't played yet. Ravens play the Cowboys tomorrow, coming off that Wednesday affair with the Steelers. Robert Griffin the third on I R. So it looks like Lamar Jackson is playing. Do we know that a hundred percent? Um? But yeah, he's got and not the Lamar Jackson, the undrafted rookie free agent who bit on the Henry Ruggs fake. Not that guy, the other guy. All right, I owe Cleveland, and I owe their fans and apology. I've called him a paper tiger. Apparently I'm wrong. Uh. Cleveland came into this game with a minus twenty one point differential, the worst by any eight plus win team through the first eleven games in NFL history. Well, yesterday they guaranteed themselves their first above five hundred records since two thousand seven in that big win against Tennessee, which again, as I mentioned, the final score not indicative of the blowout forty one to thirty five final score for the Browns. They're nine and three for the first time since Cleveland has only one nine games in the season three times in the expansion era, which began in ' the NFL's longest active playoff drought, moving closer to an end after eighteen seasons. By the way, they had more the most first half points they've ever had in franchise history. Yesterday they had thirty eight in the first half, thirty eight. Uh. That score at the end of the first half was thirty eight to seven yesterday, biggest halftime lead thirty one that they've ever that they've had since nineteen one. Mayfield twenty five or thirty three for three thirty four, four touchdowns, no picks, all of them, all those touchdowns in the first half two ninety yards by halftime. He had eight different receivers Chub eighteen for eighty on the ground with a touchdown, Richard Higgins six catches for ninety five in a touch, People's Jones, Donovan People's Jones, that is, two for ninety two in a touch, Jarvis eight for sixty two in a touchdown, ten for sixteen. On third downs, they outgained Tennessee four fifty eight to four thirty one, though they did have thirteen penalties for ninety two yards thirty six forty six and time possession plus two turnovers. Good for Cleveland, Good for you. Um, I will say Cleveland will be a will be a dog against sight unseen tonight, yes, tomorrow. Rather as long as nothing goes down with the Ravens, no big injuries, I will say the Ravens will be favorites, but not by three. I'll say two and a half. You know, my numbers coming to two and a half Ravens, and when soon I rode down and plan it's too high, and I think I would take the Browns, um you know, with the points with any money line associated with two and a half. I see it one and I even see a pick. I like one a little better, you know. So I'm gonna open Ravens one, and uh yeah I did. I sure want to see something out of Ravens tomorrow. I want to see what's because there. That's a team that's not playing good football right now. Okay, So, Chrissie, I like Indianapolis. I like the Saints based on the numbers we talked about if the Niners are only gonna be four against Washington that I like the Niners too. You may have talked me into Atlanta as a fourth you I like the Giants. I like Atlanta and I like the Saints. All right. It's a little, a little tie over there on the Saints, for sure. We're both landed on them, all right. Uh what a day in the nash of Football League, so good that we couldn't even get to college football. We did, however, get to the undoing. And what bothered me about the undoing? So that's worthwhile, don't you think, Uh, Chrissie, I thank you. Was almost a lot of action on that thing too. It was amazing, no guilty or not guilty, it's amazing. The handle on that thing then one day is the name of the book. Visa dot com slash subscribe for all the information there. Thank you, Chrissy, thanks to you. Good luck with both games today right here from all of us at Visa, the sports betting that work