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And in addition, don't forget where mandalais Bay every Saturday to bring you the analysis of all the best games. Visit bet mgm for terms of conditions. Gotta be twenty one year older and physic located in Nevada. As always, please gamble responsibly guessing lines for week number thirteen. That's what we're here for today. For those who are just landing on the show, it's a tribute, a nod to the old Start Us show of the same ilk where I'm in a cocoon, guess what the subsequent lines weeks are going to be, and then Chris Andrews tells us what he's actually going to post at the end of the show here at the South Point Hotel Casino. And within that exercise we hope to extract value. Jason, good morning to you man. How are you good, Gil, how are you? We're good. All of us survived. We're all survivors. Yes, exactly, hundred and three entries left out of nine. There was a hundred and five going into Sunday. One person picked the ram and one person didn't submit, so one oh three left. Wonder which is worse. One hundred and three survivor entries left and everybody got through. It didn't matter who you picked. And so we'll talk about that as we go on today. But let's bring him into the show. The star of the show, Ladies and Gentleman runs the south Wain Hotel, Casino, sports books, book, Chrissie Andrews. How you doing, Chris? I'm doing good, Jil, very good. Thank you? How are you? I'm doing well. You guys had a ridiculously great Sunday, didn't you. We had a ridiculously great week from Thursday on? And I always listen, I've been doing this a long time. Everybody knows that Thank Youiving Day is often times a blood bath for bookmakers. But you guys, like four free picks almost you bet against Detroit, you bet on Dallas, and you bet over in both games. And I've been saying that peers, and even this last year. I mean, there's only one game that upset the apple cart there and that was Dallas losing. But we wound up with a really good day Thursday and it just kept going and um, yeah, yesterday was the culmination of a very good weekend. What was your single biggest winner yesterday? The Raider game? What do you make of the Raiders? Good guy? We gotta get to them, just, you know, we will. That was I have like a grading system, should I use see here? And the Raiders had the worst I know, they had the worst grades. Uh, they were even three points worse than the Broncos. That's how bad they were. Yeah, there's a lot there's a lot of bad teams in the NFL, and there's a group of teams in the Mill. You have no idea are they good? Bad teams? Bad good teams? You just don't know it. Again every week, all right, let's not forget tonight. We have a game still in week twelve, Seattle at Philadelphia, where Seattle now is six and a half point favorites. Tomorrow, we think, but we don't know that. We're going to get Baltimore at Pittsburgh that's up to ten now in favor of the Steelers. I don't I have no idea if that's going to happen or not. We'll get to the do we have the Adam Schefter tweet that just came out recently about this game. We have no idea if this is going to happen at this point with with Baltimore. And but here's what Adam Schefter had to say about this, and it goes a little something like this like this, NFL canceling Raven's practice schedule for this morning, per league source. Raven's last practice the Saturday before the Titans game currently scheduled to play in Pittsburgh on Tuesday night. Raven's travel plans and flux with snow forecasting in Pittsburgh on Tuesday. Am. So read into that what you will. Um, But let's start with Thursday night, week thirteen and try to see if we can maybe have some thoughts here heading into next week. There's a Thursday night came there, that's right scuttled Dallas Baltimore. I'm sorry, Dallas Baltimore got moved to Sunday. Sorry, I gotta keep up with all this or to Monday. So we have a we have a double header Monday, Monday at five pm Eastern. Say, I knew all this last week. It's all that Survivor met this this weekend. Yes, that's Monday, we think at this point though that will be contingent on what happens tomorrow. Okay, so we'll start Sunday morning then. Okay, before we even get to that, let me just tell you there's no lines anywhere on that Dallas game. So don't you know Dallas and Baltimore Monday game, So don't Yeah, it's Gil Alexander, Chris Andrews. This is a numbers game right here at Vicent guessing lines on a Monday morning. Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, no line there. Well, I was gonna say, don't don't say it's time for that game on Monday. There's no lines anywhere. No one even knows, you know, what the hell is going on? Hell Baltimore. So okay, Sunday morning, Yeah, Sunday morning. First up, the Lions, the new coach against the Bears, who didn't look so great last night Lions and Bears. Turns out Mr r Bisky is still not that good at football. Huh. Detroit at Detroit four and seven, and they did, in fact, fire Matt Patricia and their GM Bob Quinn. Matt Patricia's final record with the Lions nine and one, remember Jim Caldwell before that was thirty six thirty six. General manager Bob Quinn twelve games under five hundred over five seasons. The Lions, as you mentioned, get crushed by Houston for twenty five in a game that wasn't that close, in a game again that was marked by the Lions lollygagging at the end of both halves in the first half, down nine, just refusing to realize they had three timeouts in pocket and just absolutely used none of them and made no sense what they did at the end of the at the end of the first half, just let the clock run from a second and ten with forty six seconds left all the way down to twenty five seconds. Punted, got sacked with seventy It was terrible. And then the end of the game, Yeah, they probably weren't gonna win, but they got it from sixteen and then they just decided, we're just gonna lollygag down the field too. We we have no no clue about what we're doing here, and that's probably why that was the final straw for Patricia and Bob Quinn there. Uh so Detroit is in that situation there four and seven extra rest. I suppose I'm supposed to say that in the Chicago last night. Uh they were pretty terrible against Green Bay. The final score was more cosmetic than anything. Fifteen unanswered at the end for the Bears and Mitch Drabinsky. But they were not good last night at all. Trabisky twenty six of forty six or two forty two looks better on paper than it was. Three touchdowns, two pick sack three times. David Montgomery eleven for one oh three, a lot of that on one big carry. Robinson the best player on the team eight eight for seventy four two touchdowns, but they were minus three in turnovers. They only had the ball twenty two minutes and seventeen seconds against the Packers. They get crushed in that game. Uh, forty one to twenty five, as I said, not as close as it seemed as seven and a half eight it's called eight and a half point Dogs closing was eight on that I'll say Chicago minus three just because I don't know what else to make it. Well, you're light, it's five and a half. Uh see one six that uh you know, my power radis came to five and it's you know, kind of a difficult thing with Detroy situation in flux. But the Bears really looked awful. I said, I still make them. I made them five. I'm an opening in five and a half. That's pretty much where I see, although I do see one six. And the issue with that game, of course, and the reason I have the three and you have a five and a half is because we don't know who's playing right for Detroit. Will Amandola be back forgetting Amadola. For a second, will Kenny Golladay be back? Will DeAndre Swift be back? That will make that will make a bunch of difference once you have multiple bodies back like that. So um, okay, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna go too crazy about that difference because again the Lions, we don't really know what we're getting. What's next? Okay, before we move on, I wanna you know some maybe some people on Twitter can help me out here. I started thinking about because Patricia obviously wasn't doing the job. He deserved to get five He was a terrific coordinator. Though let's not take that away from what I look at is when these guys hired coaches, they're hiring a head coach, except for two exceptions, they hire um coordinators who are doing really well. You know, it's not the same job being a coordinator and being a head coach. The head coach has multiple people under him that he's trying to get the best out of those people. So I went through and I probably missed somebody, and that's a massive Twitter to correct me here, help me out here. The two guys who are not who were not coordinators that have head coaching jobs probably the second and third best coaches in the league, and that's John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin. How is there anyone else out there who was not a coordinator and and you know Harbaugh arguably was the special teams coordinator, but you know that's not a going re position as a coach. And I just wonder to present any one, I think other ones out there, because you see some of these guys, you know, like Jason Garrett, he was a health coordinator, wasn't very good head coach. I mean, we'd run down the line the same thing, and I always say say the same thing. It's they all look great on the way in. They all look so great on the way out, right, But I'm just one that for another coach who who was not a coordinator. It's a great point, Chrissy. And also, you know I asked this of Lombardi, of Michael Lombardi a couple of weeks back. Do we know, like because one of the hot coaches, hot coaching commodities, you hear out there is a guy like Eric bi Enemy. Well, we have examples of Chief's coordinators not doing so well as head coaches, right, Like how do we know that he's any different from anybody else. Maybe he is, but I don't know that he is. You're right, it's a different gig. What about Vrabel, No, that's a good one. Tomlin was defensive coordinator in Minnesota. I've got to look it up. But I thought he had coordinator experience. He wasn't. I think he was the defense I think it was the linebacker, defensive coach. I don't think he was like the coordinator. I might be wrong. Yeah, you know, he certainly didn't get that job for being such a growing coordinator. That's what got That's not what got him the job. Rabel. You might have a point there. I'm not. I didn't think about I thought you might have been a defensive coordinator, Mike tell you, Yeah, Mike Tomlin was the defensive coordinator for the Vikings for one year two thousand six, So just for one year. Um, that's on there. And then the case of in a case of Mike Vrabel, Vrabel was defensive coordinator for the Texans for the year before. At least we're stint there. So yeah, but briefly for both of those guys. All right, anyway, next game, what do we got on Sunday. Next game Bengals at the Dolphins. Bengals at the Dolphins. Oh, the Bengals to eight and one, could have taken out the Giants and survivor, but couldn't do it. Had the ball, couldn't do it. You want to talk about coaching records, Zach Taylor four in one in two seasons with the Bagles. Now, how about this. They're one thirteen in one in one possession game since the start of last season. Let me repeat that, one thirteen and one one possession games. The Bengals worst in the NFL since the start of last season. Brandon Allen seventeen for twenty nine, one thirty six and his debut against the Giants. Zach Taylor said he's going with him next week against the Dolphins. Said, gave us a chance, did some things I love that, did some things football coach speak, one touchdown, one pain. He was sacked twice. The Bengals had a grand total of eleven first downs, one hundred and fifty five total yards of offense, forty rushing, and they were minus two in turnovers against the Giants. They were out time of possessioned thirty seven twenty six thirty four and but remember one of their scores was a kickoff return for a touchdown for Brandon Wilson a hundred three yards. And despite all of that, they got within two points with two thirty three left. Uh Man. And then Brandon Alan fumbled while being sacked with fifty seven seconds left to seal it for the Giants. And as I said, Zach Taylor said, I'm sticking with Alan. Miami beats the Jets. Uh that's not breaking news. Jets go to eleven. We'll get to them later. Miami's now won six of sevens and starting one and three. This was Ryan Fitzpatrick, not to a Tago vloa Volo was Tago Volo was inactive with a left thumb injury. The Dolphins now seven and oh. When leading at halftime this season, Ryan Fitzpatch was twenty four thirty nine for two fifty seven two touchdowns note pix. He was sacked four times. DeVante Parker was eight had eight catches for a hundred nineteen yards. Now, I'm not saying the Jets would have won this football game, but did you see that DeVante Parker catch that was ruled to catch even after replay on the dolphins first go ahead touchdown drive. This might have been the worst call in NFL history, and I really am not given to hyperbole on this stuff. This was awful. He got a nineteen yard catch despite not appearing to ever fully control the football before Getry knocked it out of his hands for the Jets. Gaze Adam Gates challenged the call. TV replay seemed to support the Jets argument, but it was upheld. The Dolphins scored four plays later, and I'm just like, the Jets are not only bad, but they get the Scrooge Up of the year on that, Like, this is terrible, and you never know how plays like that, because that was the third dampot. You never know how plays like that can change a game. Jason Sanders, by the way, kicked field goals of fifty four and fifty one yards for the Dolphins as well, giving him an NFL leading eight from fifty or more yards. He's like, justin Tucker light, he's that good. I'll say the Dolphins will be ten point favorites here. No less, that's what I made it. I see it higher. I see eleven, eleven and a half. Take your choice for both numbers out there. I'm gonna open eleven because you know, well, they do have a lot of one score games. The Bengals. They managed to blow every one of them but one, I guess in the last two years with Taylor to Helm. But yeah, I think they'll probably listen pen eleven. We're cutting it pretty fine. But I like the eleven better than the eleven and a half. And by the way, Bryant Flores who was not a coordinator, so that guy who like, there you go, doing a hell of the job of the All right, Uh, those are two non exciting games, by the way. To start things off, what's third? Colts at the Texans and you are posting what are you posting for the Dolphins game? Again? Just for record keeping? Eleven? I'm open eleven. Eleven, Okay, Colts of the Texans. Seven and four Colts at the four and seven Texans. Indianapolis losing to the Titans and therefore getting knocked out of first place in the a f C South that now belongs to the Titans. Titans crushed in forty five to twenty six. We'll get to the Titans momentarily, but that was all out destruction in the first half. Indianapolis allowed more points in the first half of that game, thirty five of then they had in any full game this season. They were out rushed in the first half to twenty nine to fifty six. They allowed three hundred forty six total yards in the first half. Philip Rivers too touchdowns, one pick, he was sacked once. Then there's Houston extra rest as we mentioned beating the Lions handily. Deshaun Watson with a pair of go ahead touchdowns in the first half through for two more scores in the fourth quarter. Uh to have the Texans pull away from the Lions forty one twenty five. Remember J. J. Watt had the pick six. DeShawn was seventeen of twenty five for three eighteen four touchdowns, no picks in that game, will full of the fifth his biggest target six for one seventy one and two touchdowns. But the Texans were sloppy. Remember how many penalties they had in that game, and there was a bunch denied excuse me, UH declined as well, So in the end it was ten penalties or seventy four yards. But I mean, they were just shooting themselves in the foot. Is just the Detroit was so bad it didn't matter. They were plus two turnovers in that game, and that the trick play late h India at Houston. Huge game now for Indie as they're out of the top spot and there in the wild card mix. After that Houston performance in the extra rest, I don't think Indie can be that big of a favorite here, even though again it doesn't matter that you're on the road. But I'm not sure that that's factored in here. I'll say Indian Apples minus three and a half. So the first time in the show, I liked your number better. It's a two and a half. The Colts my power rating from the five. If you look back at this text and the team. Now there's two wins against the Jags. They have win against you know, a letterless ship and the Lions, and then they beat the Patriots, which is pretty good. Okay, that's their four wins. I think it's I think it's a classic, you know by low Sell high moment, because the whole world saw the Houston Texans went on Thursday, Like I said, against the Runner the Ship, the Colts look awful yesterday. I've forgot the last play, well last significant play of the game. They tried the ontie kick and the guy returned it for a touchdown. So there's an extra seven points against them that you know, not really inagoration. Um, so I think that that number I like fining as certainly a lot better than the two and a half. But my numbers come to five right now. I see the game two and a half one, two spots with a little bit of juice on the favorite, one spot, three with the juice on the dog. Um, well, we do everything eleven at ten at South when everybody knows that I'm gonna debate that one, I'm gonna I'm gonna if that three holes out there, I'm gonna open it three. If not, i'll open it too and half because I know I'm just inviting in action if I don't, but I'm probably probably gonna open three. I'll lay the two and a half if I can find that on Indianapolis. Yeah, that's that total. I think you're buying low and Teche. I agree. Let's try to get one more in here. Jacksonville at the Vikings, Jacksonville at the Vikings. Man, these are barn burners, huh, Jacksonville. Jacksonville's one in ten, but they had the ball with a chance to tie it up yesterday against Cleveland would have had survivor implications or at least would have forced an overtime or or a frenzy at the end of the game in regulation. Jacksonville one in ten. Now they said a single season franchise record by losing their tenth consecutive game yesterday, and they fired their GM. By the way, Dave Caldwell, the owner, con says the that Doug Maron is safe till the end of the year. Oh, that's wonderful. Uh. Caldwell has been the GM since January, presided over only one winning season. Jacks thirty nine and eighties six in his tenure have lost ten or more games in every season under Caldwell X up twenties seventeen. Remember that glorious season where they got to the you know, a f C championship. Um glenn On Mike Glennon Yesterday thirty five or two thirty five, two touchdowns note Picks wasn't sacked, Robinson one twenty a touchdown, Colin Johnson four for ninety six and a touchdown, but all for not couldn't get the two point conversion. Brown's beat him by two and then there's Minnesota, who, like so many games yesterday, looked like they were dead in the water, and then not so much. They beat the Carolina Panthers yesterday twenty eight to twenty seven. Huge for any possible playoff hopes for the Vikings. Joey Slide missing a fifty four yard for the Panthers with the second left. UH that after Jeremy Chinn of Carolina had two fumble recovery returns for touchdowns on two consecutive plays the first minute of the third quarter. I said, I've never seen that in my life, and there's a reason for that. Only one other player has ever had two fumble scoops for touchdowns in a game ever, let alone to consecutive plays. Kirk Cousins third before forty five three oh seven, three touchdowns Doe picks. He was sacked twice. He was twelve of fifteen in the fourth quarter for one thirty six and two touchdowns. When the game was decided, Jefferson justin Jefferson seven for seventy two touchdowns. The Vikings win it. Besides, despite being minus two and turnovers, those two turnovers we talked about being the difference UH three turnovers for the Vikings in total, I'll say Minnesota, that's against Jacksonville. It's gotta be more than a I'll split the difference between seven and ten. I'll say minus eight and a half. And we'll come back and we'll get Chrissy's response coming back on guessing lines right here on the numbers game at Visa these Sports Betting network. All right, Jacksonville in Minnesota, A get I guess eight and a half? Three two segments were in a third. I'm sorry he good side checked Tiratings came to level. I see the game anywhere from nine to ten tens with the juice on the I'm gonna open nine and a half. But i gotta tell you, if I've seen this thing creeping up, I'm going up because I think the Vikings game, I know they pulled out of laid victor. Did you give up to defensive touchdowns in ten seconds? I mean to the same guy, I mean, I'm sorry, that's you got to kind of throw that out of your handicapping. If it happens. That happens, but you can't dand the camp with that. You can't but that those two scores affects your number, That much, but I like the higher number open ten and half. I see the tens hold or go to flat. I'm gonna go to tend myself. Okay, um, yeah, nothing more to be said there. Okay. Next one, your team, the football team, yes, versus my team the Steelers. Oh season, maybe not so? Yes? The football team, Man did they make weren't they great? Flying around on defense against the Cowboys? Man? That was funny and the cowboys then then the Cowboys decided to just try a fourth and tent at their own twenty four with over twelve minutes left, down four, and that was that. Katie or the door. Washington has won three times in the last five games. They are a top at least until tonight the Eagles can retake the lead. In the NFC East. Washington is in a tie with the Giants, although technically the Giants beat them twice, so the Giants would actually be a top the NFCS. Anyway, you get the idea of the Skins washing football team four and seven. Alex Smith was nineteen twenty six or one forty nine. Didn't do all that much one touchdown, one pick, sack three times. Antonio Gibson twenty carries, for one fifteen three touchdowns and Terry mclaurins seven catches for ninety two and of course the rundown of Jalen Smith to prevent the tying touchdown before the Cowboys had to settle for a field goal. There. In the second half, they were seven of thirteen on third down, There were one on one for one on fourth, had a time possession advantage over Dallas thirty fifty four. Uh you know, okay, great, Now they're playing the Steelers. The Steelers again, we you know, site unseen this week. We don't know if they're playing the Ravens tomorrow night. We shall see. But Pittsburgh's got to be at least a double digit favorite here, right, I'll say ten. I see nine and a half, but mostly ten. You know, only I got open ten I got. I think it's a shade high. I only made it at nine and a half myself. Your team is playing some pretty decent football. Of course my team is too, but you know, they they even having a laying down against certain teams, and this looks like a perfect spot for that not to be that up for it, because they've been on tenident needles since last Thursday, trying to figure out they're actually playing their division rival and if they beat them, which I think they will if they actually play, I see a possible left on spot for the Steeler. So I wouldn't want to get too far ahead of myself here, but I think ten and decent numberst on. I'm gonna open alright, just from a fan standpoint, these games are awful so far. The once you've told me, what's the last? Yeah, okay, here's one at the Jets. Raiders at the Jets. Uh boy, what do you what do you make of the Raiders? I mean, there's a few of these teams. We'll get to the Rams and the Cardinals later, but the Raiders. Derek Cary yesterday twenty two of thirty four for two fifteen no touchdown passes. He was picked off once it was a pick six Dion Jones, and he lost three fumbles, was sacked three times, three fumbles lost. The Raiders had a grand total of twelve first downs against the Atlanta Falcons in what was a absolute drubbing forty three to six, and the Raiders were three and a half point favorites in that game. So again, twelve total first downs, forty rushing yards five total turnovers minus four in turnover difference. They were flagged eleven times for a hundred forty one yards just for good measure. Now they're six and five. They did the exact same thing last year, Christie, they were six and four. They got beat by the Jets thirty four to three at this point last year, exact same thing. Now they're six and five on the outside looking in. And then there's the Jets we talked about earlier and eleven. They're the fifteenth team to start Owen eleven since nineteen seventy. That since the merger. Eleven games. Skid is the second longest in team history, one game short of the losing streak in ninety six teams under Rich code tight and whenever your reference code type, you know it's bad. Fourteenth double digit loss in two seasons under Adam Gaze. By the way, Gas appeared to reclaim play calling duties from the offensive coordinator didn't work out. Donald six one ninety seven, no touchdowns, two picks, sack three times, ninth career game for Donald with two plus picks their O and nine. In those games, they had a grand total of ten first downs against the Dolphins. There were three of thirteen on third, they were zero for one on four. They only had two sixty total yards. But it's the Raiders at the Jets, and I'll make it quick this. We have last week as a reference point. The Dolphins were about a touchdown favorite, so I'll say the Raiders will be about a touchdown favorite. I'll say minus seven on the road. Yeah, it's more like seven and a half, although I see somewhat juice of a dog a seven half, you know, I like the seven a half. I like it even higher than that, you know. I mean, let's not forget how horrible this Jets team is. And I feel like one of those Olympic skating judges. I'm just gonna throw out that last game. They're ready to throw off that score. You know. Just games have a chance, and I think can take the lights of their own and I think I think they did with this Raider game. So I'm just gonna throw that one out of it, you know, just a law existent and I think this number really should be a lot higher, Like, don't forget how just absolutely horrible this Jet team is. So I'm opening seven half only because I see some sevens around. If I see this creeping higher. I'm going higher. Do you trust the Raiders and Survivor I'm saying, I'm putting this out to the world. If you're in Survivor, you trust Jets haven't won since the Eisenhower them. You have to consider them. You have to consider them. They're part of the group. If you have Pittsburgh left, you'd have to consider them. I mean, we've had a lot of big numbers already. Minnesota against Jacksonville we already talked about. You'd have to consider them. Geez, Miami, if you still have them, you'd have to consider them against the Bengals. Like every game we've gotten to has almost been a potential Survivor pick. Wasn't a fitting of the herd yesterday in Circa? It could be next week because there's a mine amongst them. It's a minefield. There's definitely a mine amongst them. We'll come back. We're guessing lines week thirteen with Chrissy next on a numbers game a visa the Sports Betting Network Skill Alexander. It's Chris Andrews. Everybody, my Misha. We're guessing lines for week thirteen. So far, Chrissy, if I just like sort of stopping double back for a second. The only thing I've really liked is if you're telling me you're giving me the Cults at minus two and a half at Houston. That's the one so far. But man, didn't games. I mean those four games I just mentioned to break for like close to double digit, if not double digit favorites, all survivor possibilities. This will be an interesting week, interesting week. All right, these are still early games. Now, we're still talking early games. Okay, what is next? Very pretty good games at the Falcons, Saints at the Falcons. Alright. Uh so the Saints were the beneficiaries yesterday of what went down with the Broncos, and again the Broncos three eligible quarterbacks, Drew Lock, Brett RiPP and Blake Bortles all were each deemed to be high risk COVID nineteen close contacts. None of the three were allowed in uniform for the game yesterday. That was announced Saturday night. Denver's uh statement didn't say who the players came in contact with, but jeff Driscoll was the positive COVID nineteen at least initially they didn't say it was Jeffrey School, but they were all on the quarterback meeting together. Vic Fangio, Broncos coach had previously said that running back Royce Free would be the team's emergency quarterback. Instead, they went with former Wake Forest quarterback turned wide receiver Kendall Hinton got him off the practice squad. That didn't go so well, and so Circa reopened the line at New Orleans minus thirteen. Where did you reopen it, Chrissy, Yeah, I went to fourteen, queven fourteen, a half fifty at fifteen, got to seventeen by the end in favor of New Orleans. I wasn't high enough. New Orleans ends up beating the Broncos yesterday by the score U It was the final score, thirty one to three, and Sean Payton went, you know what, We're not gonna do anything on offense because we're not gonna We're not gonna even risk making mistakes to give you guys a chance of the eighth straight win for New Orleans. Taysom Hill in the end was nine of sixteen for seventy eight yards, no touchdowns. He threw the one pick and that was the end of that. H was sacked three times ten for forty four on the ground. Two touchdowns on the ground hit a pass a rating of forty three point two. Remember that's at a one fifty eight point three. At halftime, the Saints and Broncos had both combined for one yard passing. Wow. Let's Abas Murray two touchdowns himself the Saints since the start of last season seven and oh now without Drew Brees. And there's Atlanta, who we mentioned crushed the Raiders forty three to six. Atlanta moves to four and seven. Remember dan Quinn was scuttled, So so the order of events this year with coaches was Bill O'Brien coach GM first with the Texans, then Dan Quinn and his GM to meet her off next until yesterday when it was Patricia uh and the GM as well in Detroit. But Dion Jones returned to pick yesterday sixty seven yards for a touchdown. Remember off Derek Carr, Matt Ryan threw a pair of short scoring passes. Falcons thoroughly dominated Derek Carr in the bumbling Las Vegas Raiders forty three to six. Remember they played without Julio Jones and without Odd Girly still crushed him. And then young Young Wake kupa connected from fifty four stretching his fieldheal Street to one straight. Ryan was thirty nine six, didn't have to do much. Two touchdowns, one pick, sack ones. They were plus four in turnovers as we mentioned Jacob but Toyoto Mariners sack to fumble, two fumbles, Furce two fumble recoveries. Um, okay, this is interesting because we know that this will not be Drew Brees. This is the last of three games where Drew Brees absolutely may not play. They're they're estimating that Breese won't be back the next week either when he would technically be eligible, but they're probably they're saying probably an additional week. Do we really think they're being honest with us about Drew Brees. They haven't been from the beginning? Have they eleven cracked ribs? Almost half as they're just need to know, they're just Thomas as little as they possibly can tell us about Drew Brees. You're right, I think he will be in the booth by the playoffs. Unfortunate. Now here's the thing, Chrissie. After Taysom Hills, you know, half of it was game planned yesterday. Half of it. You know, I don't know how we're going to interpret that. But I guess what I'm what I'm trying to sort of talk myself into now is New Orleans is going to be a favorite, But they can't really be that big of a favorite here, right, So I very gingerly will say New Orleans minus four, well you're a shade high, although once again I like your number better. Um it's three juice. I'm a favorite, three and a half juice on the dog. I'm gonna open three and a half. Like I said, you know, the Saints were completely under wrap yesterday. I'm not gonna I'm throwing that game completely out the falcon. It's like I said, game, Sometimes games take on a light of their own, and that's what happened that uh Atlanta game. Yeah, let's not forget there's still Atlanta and they're playing a lot better now with Raheim Horses the headman, and I think it's a team that probably should have been this good all year. But you mentioned what the Saints or seven and oh about Teddy Bridgewater without Drew Brees. Yeah, um, Teddy teddie one for those games in it. But anyway, so I'm not lowering them that much just because breathes out so I like the higher number. You know, I guess that my numbers came to five, maybe four, depending on how to look at a couple of things. But uh, I think I think three is too low, and I think three and a half of even maybe a shade too low. But I'm gonna open three and a half just because I see some lower numbers out there. Can we get a good game, Chris? Can you? Can you serve up a good game? Wow? These are just that's the one. It has been bad this next time the Browns at the Titans. Oh well, that is at least again I'm just talking about from a fan's perspective, like you know, real life playoff implications. There. That's a game right there, right Eton three Browns, eight and three Titans. Now, I think the Browns are a paper tiger, but still eight and three Browns at the eight and three Titans. Titans now lead the a f C South. The Browns improved eight and three for the first time since nineteen nine four yesterday, and again Jaguars had the ball, needed a two point conversion to tie it up late, couldn't do it. But that's the first eight and three start for the Browns. Ninety four when they were eleven and five under Bill Belichick. It's their most wins eight in thirteen years, So congratulations Browns fans. Baker Mayfield actually put some stats up yesterday. Ninety nine for two fifty eight. I guess that's something based on where it was before. Two touchdowns, No Pixie Sack twice, Nick Chubb nine on a touchdown, Jarvis Landry eight catches for one forty three in a touchdown. Browns had four hundred fifty nine total yards two hundred seven rushing. But again it was against the Jaguars, and so you know, like what what does that mean? And then there's Tennessee. Tennessee with the a f C South lead, as we mentioned, beat the Colts yesterday. Derrick Henry in the first half seventeen for one forty and three touchdowns, ended up twenty seven for one seventy eight and three touchdowns. The Titans, as they typically do, two hundred twenty nine total rushing yards fill up the rushing part of the stat sheet. Colts were missing three key starters, including Pro Bowl defensive tackle Deforced Buckner, who was on the reserve COVID nineteen list. Though yesterday and the Titans took complete advantage of that. With thirty five minutes and thirty three seconds of the clock, Ryan Tannehill didn't have to do much thirteen twenty one one touchdown note picks sac Once and A J. Brown as you mentioned earlier, four catches for ninety eight yards and the touchdowns and a special teams touchdown at the end on the on side kick which made the score look even worse than it actually was. The final score of that game between the Titan of the Colts forty five to twenty six, but that was destruction was thirty five to fourteen in the first half. So this is the first good game Marquee wise. On paper. I'm all about Tennessee. That's the one team I've consistently had. We do. Our top ten rankings are power rankings on primetime matching on MSG plus. I've always been higher on Tennessee than everybody else. I remain high on them. This can't be quite a touchdown. I'll say Tennessee minus six and a half here, Oh wow, you're you're still high. Uh it's five and a half, like a couple of fives. But there's this team opened four last night. Um and it's been on a steady climber since. I can't say I disagree with that. You know, um, I do like a lot of things about the brown and I think they have a really good lineup up and down. I love their coach. You never know what Baker Mayfield you're getting. You know, if there's good Baker, they could absolutely win this game. It's not good Baker, then you know they won't. Uh you know, what do you say? Six? And if I don't want to say I like the number bearer, I don't because I thought this number. I thought five is a good number. I thought the four that opened last night was just too late. I see five, five and a. I'm gonna open five and half. I think that's okay because if Browns do play some close games, and uh, you know, I think, like I said, good mate, if good Baker shows up, they got a chance to win this game out right. So I'm gonna go with five and as. Yeah, if we had done this show last night and I'd heard the four, I would have been incredulous about the four. I just don't. I mean, I don't know how you feel Cleveland is among that group. Well, no, they're not, actually like Eric to me Arizona, the Raiders, the Rams, like from week to week, I have no idea what I'm getting with him. Cleveland's a little different. Cleveland a little different because they played all these inclement weather games and they played Jacksonville yesterday. Like I kind of think I do know what they are, Like, I just don't think they're that good. I could be wrong, but like they're not scared. Like eight and three is the total paper Tiger record, you would agree, right, Yeah, Like I said, it just depends on what Baker you're getting if if it's if he shows up playing as well as a potential is. I think they're a very good team because the rest of lineup is today to have us from roster and a good coach. So I think that's you know, that's where consistent. That's where we might disagree because I don't. I just don't think Baker's all that great. I think in the end and I and maybe it's too early, maybe he ends up being great, but like right now, I think he's just not good more than he is inconsistent. I think he got to give credit to Stefanski, he's really uh coached that team well, got a great running game. They've made the look they play, who's in front of him? And certainly the weather as has been an issue with them, had some COVID problems as well that haven't had Myles Garrett, So I'll get him credit eight and three. Nothing to sneeze that, but I like Tennessee there in that ball game. We'll come back. We're a little more than halfway through guessing lines Week thirteen in the National Football League with Chris Andrews right here on the numbers game with Visa the Sports betting network. Chris I am told by Jason that that was the actual dividing line between the early games and the late games. So all of those were early All those were early eight eight games in the early block at least as it stands now and again, we have Monday night football tonight Seattle at Philadelphia, Seattle favored by six and a half. We think we have Baltimore Pittsburgh tomorrow, but we don't know that. What would you put the line at that, Jason, that we're gonna have that right now? Yeah, fifty fifty. I'm sitting here looking at the Steelers having to play Washington on five days rest. I mean the Steelers are really Yeah, it's unfortunate. It's it could get very interesting from here on out because again the no Thursday game, because that was the Baltimore Dallas game, which has gotten postponed until Monday of next week, which makes Monday a doubleheader with Buffalo San Francisco. I think it's time to talk about Week eighteen, and it's just this by weekend next week and regroup maybe though, I mean, then once you get to week eighteen, what are your what are your assured? Says that those get played on Week eighteen have no assurances. There are no assurances here, chrisye. What about the game tonight? You're getting a lot of Seattle money? Is that all you've gotten? Yes? All Seattle all the way up to six and a half. Now may get to see some Jalen Hurts tonight for the Eagles. He was taking some some first team reps. All right, what is the first of the afternoon games? By the way, before we move on, I saw I saw a thing on Twitter that the Ravens were practicing this morning and the NFL told them the shutdown the facility until five o'clock tonight. I don't know what that means. But not good. All of this falls out of the category of not good. Yeah yeah. Next up, Giants at the Seahawks. Giants at the Sea Seahawks site unseen. They played tonight. Giants have won three in a row. Yeah, and the Giant and says we said they had to Uh. Cincinnati had the ball with the chance to All they needed was a field goal to beat the Giants. Yesterday, the most picked team in Circus Survivor yesterday. Maybe this reflects your Survivor pool, but the most picked team was, in fact the New York Football Giants thirty five out of the one oh four that started yesterday. Remember one didn't submit. Thirty five had the Giants and they were nervous, but they got it done. Daniel Jones was sixteen thirteen no touchdownsne pix. He was not sacked, but he then went out with a hamstring injury. He was flushed out of the pocket um and it was kind of weird how it happened. He grabbed his hamstring. He was in the second half. He's getting an m r I today. So Colt McCoy went in that game yesterday for the Giants. He was six of ten for thirty one his brief time in the game. Yesterday, Daniel Jones got in re entered the game for one plan and said and then grabbed his hamstring right after he threw a past. He's like, I can't do this. So depending on what that m R I shows, we'll know if it's gonna be Daniel Jones or the veteran Colt McCoy Gallman ninety four yesterday with a touchdown against the Bungles Ingram six. They were plus two in turnovers, they held the ball for thirty seven minutes and twenty six seconds, thirty four advantage in time of possession. But it's the Giants who again technically lead the NFC East right at this moment, having beaten Washington both times this year. And it'll be at Seattle. Uh, you know it again, depending on what happens tonight with Seattle, barring any catastrophic injuries or whatever, I would imagine Seattle would be north of a touchdown. I'll say minus seven and a half. Well if you're light, but again like your number better. I mean Seattle's again I home field means left. Um, you know there's six and a half over Philly in the I had to playing some pretty good football right now. Anyway, the numbers not is what I see. I think that's too high now, assuming Jones is healthy, because I do like Colt McCoy. I like him. I think the very valuable backup. Uh, but Jones is coming around, and really the team's coming around. This team is playing pretty good football. Uh. You know, I think that number is too high. You know, I'm gonna open nine just to be conservative, because I see one place as ten, but a lot of juice on the dog. I see like a couple of seven a halves juiced on the favorite. I'm a debate by that right now. I'm probably gonna open nine, but I might open eat and a half see how that thing goes. But I think the Giant I think that's high. I'd like the Giants in that spot. And remember I'm putting a market next to the Giants. I think they played that game a lot closer than what the nine would indicate. Skill Alexander Chris Andrews. This is a numbers game right here a Visa the Sports Betting Networks series except Channel two or four Visa dot Com. The Visa app Bobo is linking game plus guessing lines for week thirteen. Uh, well will I rush about the Giants? I don't know. I don't know, just so tough. There's so many we were debating, yes, I'm gonna be on the Giants over a touchdown. I can tell you that we were debating yesterday. Uh, Felika E and I how many truly bad teams there are in the NFL? And Felicka and I came on the high side. We were both like a fourth of the league is just bad. And he was trying to say, well, no, but this team is a coach away, this team is a quarterback way. I go, yeah, but you can say that about lots of teams. But I'm just I'm thinking of myself on like, so many of these teams are so bad at so this this is why Survivor has lasted as long as it has this year, because you can just fade the crapola. Now, as I said, there's nothing guaranteed moving forward. I'm terrified by this coming week because it's a minefield. One of these one of these big favorites is not going to get there. Um, so you know it is what it is. But are the Giants terrible or the Giants actually a burgeoning team. If Daniel Jones can get it right, they're actually going to be good at football. I don't know. From week to week, I have a different opinion. I have a different opinion on a lot of it. You try to Recency bias is real because in the NFL you try to overcome it. Just so difficult with the performances of these teams from week to week. And we're about to run into a couple more. What's next? Next up we have the Rams at the card Okay, so this is a perfect game. I didn't know you were gonna go with this, but this is perfect the set up for this because these are two teams, Chrissy, the Rams and the Cardinals. Do you have any clue what you're getting from them week to week? None? For me? None? Literally? A week ago, who is the Rams? Beat Tampa right on on the primetime game? And the day after I said, are the Rams the best team in the NFC? Like I said that out loud on this show. Maybe the Rams are the best team in the NFC. Well, they lose to the Niners yesterday twenty Now, there's no shame in that the Niners had bodies back, most dirt and Sherman. We're back. So it was debo and the Niners got it done, beat the Rams three to twenty. But it just looked listless from the offensive side of things for the Rams. I mean, the defense completely kept him in that game. Golf Jared Goff that is nineteen of thirty one for no touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked twice. There were seven turnovers in that game between the Rams and the Niners, four committed by the Rams. Robbie Gould's forty two yard or for San Francisco with no time remaining was the game winner. Aaron Donald did it all yesterday, sack, forced fumble, fourth straight season with ten plus sacks. But the Rams lose and the Rams fall to seven and four. And then there's Arizona. You know, we talked about the Raiders in the Rams not knowing what you get from them from week to week. Arizona might top them in that category. Like one week, I'm like, Kyler Murray can beat anybody. Like they're a team that could get into the playoffs, and all it takes is for Kyler Murray to go off. That team could get to like the NFC Championship. Maybe who knows, and then you see them yesterday against the Patriots and you're like, I don't know. They could lose to anybody. To Murray twenty three thirty four for one seventy no touchdowns, one pick, you sack twice five or thirty one on the ground, Nick Folk kicking a fifty yard or for the Patriots is time expired and they rally to beat the Cardinals seventeen Cardinals were pretending nothing. I had the Cardinals in this game. This is one of these that I loved on guessing lines last week and attended anothering. I'm like, oh, I'm so smart, and then not so much so. I don't know. So when you make this line, and again a home field doesn't matter, it's the Rams of the Cardinals. I guess the Rams will be favored, but even three seems too much, So I'll say two and a half. And I have no idea if you're gonna laugh me out of that room with that line, because I just have no idea what it should be. No, No, it's two and a half juice on the favorite, three juice on the dog. I like the to and ask better. I think it's I think it's a shade high made it one and a half. Again, you're cutting pretty close there, But three I think it's a little too hot. Um. You know Arizona. You know, I've had my questions about Murray and you know, voiced them, and I still have questions to buy him long term, although short term I think he's pretty good coach. No, I don't like Kingsbury. I don't like it, um And I think that could be one of the reasons why you're looking at an inconsistent partinal team. You know, I like a lot of things about the Rams, but there's a case where the quarterback is inconsistent. Um. So anyway, that's my assessment of those two teams overall. But I'm gonna open two and a half. I might have some guys lay it to me, but I'm sure as soon as I go to three, they're gonna gobble that up to So there we go. And every time Jared Goff has a game like that, I always get back to my whole thing about how the economics of the NFL is so messed up for teams. Right, So, Jared Goffe signed a one hundred ten million guarantee. It was a four year, one four million dollar deal. One million guaranteed. This is in September of so, before last season. And if you're the Rams, you have to make this decision again. You do not win a Super Bowl unless you have a Hall of Fame quarterback or a guy over performing on a rookie deal like Russell Wilson did. And by the way, it's a travesty that the Seahawks are only able to win one Super Bowl with that legion of Boom and Russell Wilson. But we all know what happened there with the pick against the Patriots. But anyway, getting back to the point, so the Rams had to make this assessment about Jared Golf and they decided, you know what, we're gonna give him this fat contract. The Cowboys with Dak pre injury and they're not gonna, I hope they're not gonna let the injury affect them, but who knows. Uh, they have to make a decision to give Dak the long term deal. They were assessing that is he the guy that's going to get us to the Promised Land. Remember the Washington football team, perhaps most famously had to do this with Kirk Cousins and they kept signed named Kirk Cousins to one year deals, and Kirk Cousins was like, cool, I'm betting on myself. Just keep signing me to one one year deals. I'm gonna make fat money. Then the Vikings through the long term contract on him. It was three years, eighty four million initially. But I guess what I'm getting at is it's such a weird place in these guys careers, Golf Cousins dak to have to make this massive financial commitment. You are basically making a decision on your franchise's entire future because it's the most important position on the field, and it is a wing and a prayer because you really have no idea if Jared Golf is your answer to get you to the promised land. And every time we think he's good, he has a game like this and we're like, yeah, no, sorry, just odd. That the that the NFL economics, that's how the salary capboard, and that's how the rules work. That it's at this point in their career when you really have no idea yet and you've got to make that big decision. Anyway, it is what it is. I don't know where I'm going with that other than God, I mean, like think how fortunate you are if you're a fan of the teams that has a big ben talking to you, Chrissy. Uh, you know, if you have the you know, the players that that can get you there, like a Patrick Mahomes. I mean, what a that that's just made the franchise, right with that one pick and one one pick in the draft that is, by the way, we'll get to him, but good lord, is he Greig? Anyway? That's it. I didn't have much to say other than what interesting economics for a second before before we get off that. It's not just you get rid of him, you get rid of golf. Let's say, well, you got to replace him. You got to replace him with You're you're in the middle of the draft, you know, so you aren't getting Drevor Lawrence, you aren't getting Justin Fields. You know again, you're gonna ask to take the gamble. I can't remember the guy's name, the kid from North Dakota State. And you know you're played one game kid this year? You know, yeah, yeah, you know, you played one game. He looks good. The scout's love, you know, is it going to be you know, pre injury Carson once it was pretty good or is he going to be uh, you know, Mr Busy, you know, I mean so, I don't know. I mean that's a really tough question. But just keep that in mind. I would makes you get rid of golss. Okay, fine, replace them with who Yeah, no, you're you're ask yourself that, right, And that's what That's what with Washington, you know they could never figure out Okay, well we have Kirk Cousins, but literally look at them. Well, now with the alternative, what do they have? The quarterback of the future is not on that team. It's not. And so as as exciting as you can as exciting as you can be about the performance on Thursday as the Cowboys, you're still like, well, where is this going? And the Rams have no draft picks either. They traded on the draft picks for Jalen Ramsey, right, and so they've really really hamstrung themselves for the next couple of years. Unfortunately, right now is the NFC playoff picture of the playoffs were to start right now, you get one team from the East right now, it's the Giants. Could change tonight if the Eagles win, Packers, Saints Seahawks as division winners, Seahawks againstill haven't played. But let's just go with what's going on right now. Your wild card teams as of this moment would be the Rams, the Buccaneers, and the Cardinals. Cardinals are at six and five, and then you have three teams right behind them, the Vikings, the Bears, and the Niners all at five and six. You imagine if the Niners got there, yeah, oh my god, all four teams in the NFC West still alive. Well, but then they would ostensibly knock out the Cardinals. So you know what. Anyway, interesting to look at the Bears at five and six, still on the picture. All right, what's what's next? I'm sorry, what's next? At the package? Alright? So Eagles we haven't seen again. They're six and happen when we Dogs tonight against the Seahawks, and we might see some Jalen Hurts tonight Carson Wentz just to give you an idea of why Doug Peterson has finally the had to give Jalen Hurt some reps with the first team. Carson Wentz first among all players and interceptions fourteen fumbles, ten sacks, forty ranks thirty second because I guess they add some other quarterbacks beyond the the starting thirty two that have also had starts uh thirty second and completion percentage fifty eight point four, thirty feet in yards per attempt six point two, and as the worst off target percentage. That's not what you want to be worst in off target percentage, Chrissy Tree, among all qualifiers that according to the ESPN Stats and Information. Thank you ESPN Stats and Information for that list. Green Bay beats the Bears last night. Now, if you missed this game last night, you'll you'll wake up and you'll say, oh, green Bay one to twenty five. Yeah, but fifteen of those points where the Bears in the fourth quarter fifteen unanswered. That game was over by halftime. Another one of these Sunday nights, Chrissy, where it's like, is there anything else so on? Yeah? Yeah. And by the way, the the ABC College Football or the ESPN slash ABC College Football Game of the Week on Saturday. They've had such bad luck with their primetime games too. Like Fowler and herb Street and Felika, they go to they go to these games every week. Uh, and they're like more often than not this year, like, oh this is over. But but Rogers last night against the Bears, another just masterpiece to eleven but four touchdowns, no picks, wasn't sacked, just as complete command of what's happening on the field. Aaron Jones seventeen of nine, seventeen, four and rather on the ground, six for eleven on third down, three for three on fourth. The Packers were they had had the ball for thirty seven minutes and forty three seconds to the Bears seventeen. They were plus three in turnovers, and again Mitch r. Biskie still not that good at football. I'll say Green Bay against sight unseen here with the Eagles, Ah, this is probably more than a touch down. I think mine is a I'll just split seven and ten like I did with the earlier game, minus eight and a half. Uh, you're right there. I don't even see a couple of numbers seven with pretty solid juice on the favorite eight and then nine. A lot of guys don't have this up. And I think probably the question has to be what's Jalen Hurt's gonna do? What are they gonna do at quarterback? You know? And I think that's one of those deals where you have to trust the coach to make what he believes is the right decision no matter what it is, whether it hurts or or Carson wins. Um. Now my numbers came to nine. I tell you what, I really liked a lot the Packers just says, I only ran the football because wasn't the There's those have a pretty good defense, you know, I love nothing else and there's still in the playoff pants, so I guess that's true. But the Packers really ran the ball. Well, Um, I think I think we gonna go with a nine. See what they want to do with him, you know. Um, And I think I think when the Packers have things going their way, they can be really really good. Now that's a big gift in the NFL, but I think the big gift would be a yes. And they're playing the team like the Eagles, So I'm hoping nine. See where they want to go with that. And the Eagles, by the way, Trey Lance was the kid from North Dakota State you were talking about, uh that we didn't name earlier. Uh. Thank you Chris Fleako for texting that the the Eagles are the proverbial team of And I said this to Matt Brown on Primetime Action the other night. And I'm not. I'm not picking on that at all, because I was right with him when they played the Browns. The Eagles like on paper, you're like, oh, they're getting these guys back, you know, getting you know, they're they're as full throttled as they as they have been in recent memory. So I'm taking the Eagles. And I said to him, I go, okay, but is this the game where if the Eagles do not cover and do not win, where we vow we're never picking this team again under any circumstances, because they're the team that when you bet on him, one drive into the game is all it takes for you to go, I cannot leave. I'm betting on this team again. How did I get hoodwinked into this? And so tonight that applies to night's game, by the way, where they're six and a half point dogs. So this is, at least in recent memory, a different position to be in because they're considerable dogs and they've been favorites in a lot of the games recently. How will they perform tonight? And then in this game that we're just discussing, the Eagles huge even bigger dogs one would think at Green Bay, Cold weather. You know, I'm just waiting for the game. They're never when they're blown out of the water, and I wonder if that's the game. But if they win tonight, they're in the lead of the division. So you know, still make the pups again. If you win the NFC East, Chrissie, you pick no better than nineteen and if you lose, you're gonna have a top ten pick. Do you really want to win this division? Players? I mean, they don't want. They don't want a good d choice that's probably got to take one of their jobs, so they're not gonna stankers might never referring to the players, never referring to the players, But I'm just saying, do you really if you're a fan of the team, do you And if you're and if you're if you're in the front office, and I'm giving you truth, serum, do you really want to win this division? Maybe you do. As I was watching Washington the other day, I was like, let's win this division. Boys, you know, I got super excited about the team. And then I'm like, I don't want to win the division. All right, We'll come back, We'll do more because we have I believe four more games or three more, at least four more games to get to. Maybe three, they'll they'll let me know. Guessing lines for week thirteen so far Indianapolis. I'm not sure I like anything else really, off the top of my head, Indianapolis seems like the one thus far. If you're giving me two and a half, I'll grab that we got more game tough, I'll grab that we got more games to get too. Coming back with Chris Andrews right here on guessing lines Week thirteen on a numbers game at Visa v Sports betting that work. What do we have next on week thir team, I think we're still in the date. Yeah. No, we have multiple prime time games, so these are prime time. Yeah yeah, but I guess that one has no lines whatsoever. We get discussed and of course there's no right, Okay. Um, So Sunday Night, Broncos at the Chiefs for the Broncos. Are we not flexing games at this point yet? Broncos at Chiefs Chiefs? Well, Kendall hint Hint yesterday, let's uh, let's uh pour out a forty for Kendall hintons pro football career. It's no, it's not his fault. He was a quarterback at Wig, then he became a wide receiver and then you know, the day before, the day before, they're like, oh, you're playing quarterback in the NFL in an NFL game. By the way, Keyshawn Johnson was on ESPN Radio this morning. He apparently was the emergency quarterback back in the day for the Jets, and he was saying, it's just it's really not that hard. It's like ten ten plays. They're the most simple plays possible. It should have been better than this was yesterday. In the end, though, Kendall Hinton why, he didn't get a week to practice, so I think it's kind of unfair. Kendall Hinton was one of nine for thirteen yards. Uh. And I remember the one that he that he got for a first down. I was one of them. First down. He was smiling, was like the biggest accomplishment ever. One of them were thirteen yards, no touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked once. Six total first downs for the Broncos yesterday. Six. There were one of ten on third down. They had one hundred and twelve total yards. Now, if I'm not mistaken, Washington had a game earlier this year where they had a hundred and eight total yards, So congratulations, Kendall h Hinton. You beat that. They had twelve passing yards when you factor in the sacks, the fewest by any team since twenty sixteen, the first team with more interceptions to than completions one since the Chargers. Yeap, Sorry I could go on minus two in turnovers. Broncos are now last in the NFL and turnovers and turnover margin minus fifteen. But they'll get their quarterbacks back for this game. They managed thirty seven yards in a single first down before heading into halftime down seventeen and nothing after the Saints scored twice off turnovers in the final to twenty two of the second quarter. Hinton did not complete his first pass until the third quarter, and that was his only pass completed. Broncos didn't help him much. Five of his seven passes were thrown fifteen plus yards down field. They didn't call a single screen pass for him, or at least they'd had none completed. He's also pressured on five of his seven attempts, so it's like they didn't help him out either. Anyway. That was the frue Bengo square. Saints beat him three and there's Kansas City. Kansas City. I had Kansas City yesterday and I was like, Oh, I'm winning this game until it was a push. Kansas City sixth rade season with ten plus wins. Tyreek Hill in the first quarter seven catches for two hundred three yards. I've never seen anything like that. Over fifty Fantasy points in the first total in the game because he finished thirteen for two sixty nine and three touchdowns of seventy forty four and twenty yards. By the way, Todd Bowles and the Bucks said we're gonna single cover Tyreek What was that? Mahomes thirty seven and forty nine for four sixty two, three touchdowns note picks. He was sacked twice. Mahomes after the game was like, we don't usually see that with Tyreek Hill. Kansas City ran forty forty two plays the Tampa Bays twenty two in the first two quarters, out gaining the Bucks three seventy seven to one thirty one with Mahomes throwing for three fifty nine yards and Brady won seventeen. That's in the first half. But Tampa Bay came all the way back to get the push. Never really thought they had a chance to win it. Though Kansas City wins at twenty seven to twenty four. Some people lost on the Chiefs. If you got it at three and a half. Anyway, it's the Broncos. I don't care if they have their quarterbacks back, which they will. I will say even more than two Touchdownslet'll see, fourteen and a half they were the Chiefs. Wow, you're high. Well, I can't say you're wrong money by powering from the thirteen. But I always say it's just a place to start. Uh, I'm gonna open thirteen and a half. But boy, I'll tell you what, I'd would be hard pressed to it that the Broncos here the Chiefs. You know you're talking about you know, the single cover Tyree Hill. Okay, fine, I mean they should have doubled him, of course. But this team has so many weapons. Um, they've just done a fantastic job, you know, accumulating talent, coaching everything. There's a really really well run franchise right now. And uh, you know they do they super Bowl winner. They deserved to be and they deserved to be the best team in the league so far this year. Of course, you've got to go on and win the playoffs, but that may happen, they may not. There's a hell of a team, hell of a program. They're doing a great job and a half. That's the high watered more. Okay, I'm a little high. How about Patrick Mahomes like backpedaling ten fifteen yards and still reading defenses and making sheet code. Coming back, We'll do the last couple of games with Chrissy for Week thirteen, right here in the Numbers game at Visa, these sports betting network messing lines with Chris Andrews, right here on the Numbers game at Visa, these sports betting Network. Chrissy, I know that the uh that the double header, the Monay night double header is potentially the Dallas Baltimore game and Buffalo and San Francisco, and so upon thinking about that during the break, I was like, wait a minute, why haven't we talked about Buffalo. We must have skipped the game, right? Did we skip the Chargers game next week? Yeah? Okay, what game is that Chargers playing? Yeah? We did, we trust me, I know we did, because we didn't talk about any We didn't get there. You're yeah, I wrote in my Yeah we didn't talk about them yet, You're right, you're right, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, So who are they playing? You were discussing Destiny's Child while I wrote in the number, sorry, I took you. I took you off the setting. You know what we're just you know what we're talking about during this break is because I was talking about the whole you can't win a super Bowl unless you have a Hall of Fame quarterback or or a rookie, a guy on a rookie deal over performing. And so we're talking about the Lions having fired coach and GM obviously is Matthews Stafford? Like? Is he? Is he a super Bowl quarter Like? How do we know he's good enough? I don't know about Matthew. I think he is myself, I really do. I think he is. So if she went to the right team, yeah, I think he could do it. Yeah. Okay, so we're the Chargers playing. Let's get back to let's double back to the Chargers, go back to the Chargers and Patriots where at at the Chargers like it matters? Uh? Patriots win as we talked about, beat the Cardinals, Cam Cameron Newton as Todd wish Ness. Cam was nine of eighteen for eighty four no touchdowns. Two picks, sack three times. He did carry the ball nine times for forty six yards. The Patriots only had a hundred seventy nine total yards, only sixty nine passing yards when you factor in the sacks, and they won Nick Folk fifty yard or to win it with no time remaining, beat the Cardinals. Patriots are five and six. If they get to eight and eight, Bill Belichick deserves some coach of the ear thoughts thoughts, Yeah for sure, yeah, probably, yeah, okay. And then there's the Chargers. Chargers lose to the Bills. I knew we felt light on this show. I knew that felt like we were a little too far into it, all right, So the Bills of the Year candidate not like if I haven't had a chance. That's cert de sides Anthony Land. It definitely is not going to get say why do I feel empty on this show? What have I failed to talk about? Bills beat the Chargers twenty seven to seventeen. It is their first loss, the Chargers first loss this season by ten plus points, so let's at least give them that. They still covered the tease though they're oh in six this season versus teams currently over five d though Justin Herbert once again filling up a statue thirty three six, one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked three times. By the way, he's over three thousand yards, which means he joins Patrick Mahomes the only players the top three thousand yards passing in their first ten career starts. How about that. There's your rookie of the year. Austin Ekeler came back fourteen forty four in the ground, eleven brady five through the air, eleven catches, eighty five yards returned after missing six games with a hamstring injury. UH charges were plus two in turnovers still lost. Joey Bosa had a career best three sacks, six tackles for a loss, also recovered a fumble still lost, up his career total in sacks to forty seven and a half. All right, Anthony Lynn, so begins the Anthony portion of this program. Christie Anthony Lynn at the fifty yard line, fourth and two, play clock and game clock almost equal. This is right before the half. Now I'm talking, and instead of living the time run to maybe do a final play, he calls the time out with twenty seconds left, and then punts and You're like, what are we doing? What are we doing? And you're like, well, I can't get worse than that today? Oh did it ever? End of game? One minute left in the game. Justin Herbert throws a fifty five yard to Tyron Johnson, just heaved it up in the air. Tyron Johnson came down with it two yard line um, So seconds left downtown, no timeouts. They run the ball. They run the ball. Like you're watching this, You're like, what what are you doing? It's like you can count on it, you can just he two scores. You either you either kicked the field goal right there and then or he just plays into the end zone. Period. They run the ball, and so there's six seconds left in the game before Herbert throws an incompletion which was just ridiculous, right into the ground, and the game ends with Herbert being stopped on a keeper up the middle. And so I listen, we've talked about Anthony Lynn a thousand times. Okay, it's an exaggeration, but we have over the years a hundred times at least. You can't keep doing stuff like this. You can't. Here's the thing. You're allowed to make mistakes, but you have to learn something at some point, and I don't think it's like this blank slate happens every week where they learn nothing. And this is Bill Belichick and the Patriots at Anthony Lynn and the Chargers. I have a feeling this is the play of the week because if I'm guessing the line, which I'm told is the point of this show, uh, I would make it a pick them because I wouldn't know who to favor here. And if that's the case, this is this, by the irrefutable laws of football bestowed upon us, you have to bet the Patriots. What's the line, Chrissie, Well, it's pick or the Chargers one. I even see a one and a half the juice on the dog. I made the Patriots too. And to your point, you have one team that's gonna figure out a way to win and another team is going to figure out a way to lose, exactly picking. I'm sorry. Yeah. By the way, Richie koke Tite, remember one time ah refused the penalty and then punted it. This was closed when Anthony called the time out and then punted it. You know that was I'm not sure which one's worse. They're really close. I thought the run at the end was just that's that was the cop so ridiculous that I mean, just the topper. So listen, this is again by the irrefutable laws of football bestowed upon us by Moses himself or whoever? Did you have to beat the Patriots here right like this is I say this a lot on the show. Some bets you just have to be willing to lose. This would be that bet. If you can, If Anthony Litt and the Chargers can beat me on this, which is essentially a pickum, is what you're saying, God bless you. But I'm taking Belichick great teaser, teaser Schmiez or I'm just taking it straight. Still a great teaser. My mother used to say that, Chrissie teaser Schmizer. All right, what's that? What's what's what's name? We got the Bills? Who was doing? And yeah, I mean they were going to beat the Charges regardless, right, might not have covered the Bills with the Miners. So Bills have a one game lead on the Dolphins in the a f C East. There four and oh this season against teams currently under five hundred, they're a bully. Josh Allen eight seven, one touchdown. One, picky, sacked twice, bills were minus to in turn over. Still be the charges. As we mentioned, nine penalties for eighty five yards didn't matter. Tried to blow an eighteen point third quarter lead, turned the ball over on three consecutive posessions, didn't matter in that stretch. They limited Los Angeles to Michael Badgeley's twenty seven yard field goal. Three turnovers. That's all the Chargers got. And then there's the Niners, who we talked about beat the Rams. Nick Mullins was thirty five or two fifty three, no touchdowns, one pick, He was sacked twice, debot eleven for one thirty four. What a good game he had. But the Niners got Deebo back. They got Raheem Mostered back. He scored the Niners opening touchdown. After four games away with the sprained ankle, Richard Sherman came back. He had a pick lad the Niners with seven tackles in his first game back since Week one. The Niners have no idea where they will be playing this game though, right Santa Clara County saying you can't do that, So I don't know where they go here. Um some said Texas maybe there's possibility. You know, we don't know yet, but I'll say Buffalo not quite a three point favorite. I'll say two and a half. Yeah, you're right on, it's two and a half. You know my numbers came higher. Um, I really think I have to look at this Niner team. I have to make some adjustments because of the players who are coming back. So I'm not going to dispute the two and a half. A matter of fact, there's threes around last night they're pretty much gone. Um, So I do like the two and a half. I like it. It's me that has to make an adjustment to my power raising because it's the night are getting all these folks back. I definitely have to raise them. And by the way, Shanahan is doing a hell of a job. This guy's a great coach, so he is. He's a terrific coach. Alright. So, and we don't know Baltimore in Dallas, Dallas at Baltimore, we don't. We don't have any line for that. I don't know. I mean, there's so many question marks with Baltimore. I don't know how to possibly put up a number and means, you know, and I'm certainly not gonna, you know, tear down that wall and put one up. You're not gonna tear down that wall. Mr gro with Jeff uh. Yeah, and Baltimore again, as we say, we don't know, is this game gonna get played tomorrow night against Pittsburgh. It's still it's still there now, but there's a long time, long time between now and game time tomorrow between Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh a ten point favorite in that game scheduled for tomorrow. Okay, so Christie, as we do the inventory here, here's what I like. I like Indian apples. If you're telling me that there are only two and a half point favorites on the road at Houston, as long as it's two and a half, I'll take that two and a half extra juice, I'll take that. Uh. If the Chiefs are less than fourteen, which you're saying you might put them up, I will take the Chiefs at home against Denver. Denver will have their quarterbacks back, and the other one is and this is the biggest one of them all, I'm taking New England against the Chargers. Period. End of story. You. I like the Colts again, laying the two and a half against the Texas. I like the Giants getting points over you know, over seven and a half again the Seahawks, And I like New England too, Like a team that figures out out to win and get the team that figures out how to lose. By the irrefutable laws of football, that pick must happen. Christy, thank you as always. I appreciate it. Man, my pleasure, Gil, my pleasure, the great Chris Andrews, my mess booker right here on Guessing Lines week thirteam. We'll put it in podcast more. And if you missed all of this, it's skill Alexander. Good luck on all your bets, Good luck with Seattle, Philly, and I follow us a decent fourth betting luckway