On this week's episode, Paula is joined by former Football Ferns Dr Michele Cox and Maia Jackman to discuss their new book, Murdering Middle Age. They discuss how they got into their careers and the world of female sport, before sharing their advice and what they've learned about middle age, menopause, and loving your life.

Barry Soper on the loneliness that comes with being prime minister
46:48

Paul Ego is going solo and pushing boundaries
35:00

Laura McGoldrick on parenting like her parents did
36:30