Hello. I am Paula Bennett and welcome to my New Zealand Herald podcast. Ask me anything. One thing I've learned in life is it's never too late to learn something new. So on this podcast, I talk to people from all walks of life to hear about how they got to where they are, get some advice and guidance on some of life's biggest questions. Today, I have gotten Ozzie in the studio with me, literally fresh off the plane. I am joined by Australia's favorite handyman and TV icon host of the Block Australia, Scott cam. Scott is here in New Zealand to celebrate the twentieth season of The Block Australia, eighteen seasons of which he has hosted.

Hello. I am Paula Bennett and welcome to my New Zealand Herald podcast. Ask me anything. One thing I've learned in life is it's never too late to learn something new. So on this podcast, I talk to people from all walks of life to hear about how they got to where they are, get some advice and guidance on some of life's biggest questions. Today, I have gotten Ozzie in the studio with me, literally fresh off the plane. I am joined by Australia's favorite handyman and TV icon host of the Block Australia, Scott cam. Scott is here in New Zealand to celebrate the twentieth season of The Block Australia, eighteen seasons of which he has hosted.

Scott Welcome, Hello, paul Up, thank you for having me.

Scott Welcome, Hello, paul Up, thank you for having me.

Thanks for coming on in. I Ca'm going to ise us in with some quick fire questions. If you could go to the pub with someone interesting, who would you check?

Thanks for coming on in. I Ca'm going to ise us in with some quick fire questions. If you could go to the pub with someone interesting, who would you check?

Jees, that's a tough one, Captain Cook. Maybe I love explorers.

Jees, that's a tough one, Captain Cook. Maybe I love explorers.

He'd have a story, wouldn't he.

He'd have a story, wouldn't he.

I've always loved explorers since I was a kid.

I've always loved explorers since I was a kid.

Yeah, just what the adventure of it?

Yeah, just what the adventure of it?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Of course he's well known here too, isn't he very well known here?

Of course he's well known here too, isn't he very well known here?

And we like it bit of contribution cook, is it? Yeah, there's a lot of that.

And we like it bit of contribution cook, is it? Yeah, there's a lot of that.

I wrote a one of books about him.

I wrote a one of books about him.

He has named most of the bays around New Zealand, probably without in for varying reasons. I would say, if you heard an a drink with them with the drink, but you might have to have rum because he's well.

He has named most of the bays around New Zealand, probably without in for varying reasons. I would say, if you heard an a drink with them with the drink, but you might have to have rum because he's well.

Probably I might introduce him to a cold beer because that's my drink. I drink whiskey as well, so I think maybe we'd get a nice whiskey into him.

Probably I might introduce him to a cold beer because that's my drink. I drink whiskey as well, so I think maybe we'd get a nice whiskey into him.

Yeah, why not.

Yeah, why not.

It's a bit of an odd one.

It's a bit of an odd one.

I mean, I'd like to have a bit with a lot of sportsmen like Don Bradman and people like that. I do like explorers, yeah, and Australian history and you know he circumnavigated New Zealand as well, didn't he and drew the first map.

I mean, I'd like to have a bit with a lot of sportsmen like Don Bradman and people like that. I do like explorers, yeah, and Australian history and you know he circumnavigated New Zealand as well, didn't he and drew the first map.

Yeah. Absolutely. To say it isn't pretty much named after New Zealand, we've gotten renamed it back to originals. Yes, absolutely, Okay, Scott, I'm going to start with some steps, which is not like me, but here we go. Twentieth season of the Block Australia. You've been host for eighteen of those. There's nine hundred episodes, more than thirty four million in prize money given out, one hundred and seventy six contestants on the show, two hundred bathrooms and ninety eight kitchens built. Wow, that's impressive. So what do you put the success.

Yeah. Absolutely. To say it isn't pretty much named after New Zealand, we've gotten renamed it back to originals. Yes, absolutely, Okay, Scott, I'm going to start with some steps, which is not like me, but here we go. Twentieth season of the Block Australia. You've been host for eighteen of those. There's nine hundred episodes, more than thirty four million in prize money given out, one hundred and seventy six contestants on the show, two hundred bathrooms and ninety eight kitchens built. Wow, that's impressive. So what do you put the success.

Of the show down to look I think, Paul of that we create family viewing. That's what we try to do where kids are on tablets and things like that and other streaming devices. When I was a kid, we sat down with mum and dad and my two other siblings and we watched Telly as a family, and that's what we're trying to watch Evy Days. Well, no, you know, my dad didn't watch that.

Of the show down to look I think, Paul of that we create family viewing. That's what we try to do where kids are on tablets and things like that and other streaming devices. When I was a kid, we sat down with mum and dad and my two other siblings and we watched Telly as a family, and that's what we're trying to watch Evy Days. Well, no, you know, my dad didn't watch that.

That was on four o'clock. He was at work.

That was on four o'clock. He was at work.

But you know, we we we're trying to a family viewing show that mum and dad and three kids can watch at the same time. And because we achieve that, I think that that's why it's successful.

But you know, we we we're trying to a family viewing show that mum and dad and three kids can watch at the same time. And because we achieve that, I think that that's why it's successful.

And we have new customers every year. As in contestants.

And we have new customers every year. As in contestants.

We have different styles of housing and we have different areas, like whether it's a sea change or something else or a tree change, and so we mix it up a bit and mix up the format as well a little bit all the time.

We have different styles of housing and we have different areas, like whether it's a sea change or something else or a tree change, and so we mix it up a bit and mix up the format as well a little bit all the time.

We do love a renovation show the way we like. I think we've got New Zealanders and Naisies that's got there, but in common, you know, we kind of like practical people that are doing stuff and there. And are you as passionate about homes in Australia as we are here in New Zealand, you know, like one hundred percent.

We do love a renovation show the way we like. I think we've got New Zealanders and Naisies that's got there, but in common, you know, we kind of like practical people that are doing stuff and there. And are you as passionate about homes in Australia as we are here in New Zealand, you know, like one hundred percent.

I mean, everybody wants to have their own little patch, don't they. And there's other countries around the world that rent for the serial renters throughout the entire culture. But we definitely, and I know New Zealand is the same that we want to have our own block of land and then we want to we want to add value add to that all the time as well by renovating or painting or putting a pool in or doing something like that. And definitely we're obsessed with that in Australia, and I know you guys are here too, and I think that's a great thing. I've burned a carpenter for forty five years and all longer actually, but I started when I was seventeen and I'm in my sixties, and so that's all I've been doing my whole life. And then twenty five years ago I mixed it with a bit of Telly and so I've had the best of both worlds because I love Telly and I love building and you do appeal.

I mean, everybody wants to have their own little patch, don't they. And there's other countries around the world that rent for the serial renters throughout the entire culture. But we definitely, and I know New Zealand is the same that we want to have our own block of land and then we want to we want to add value add to that all the time as well by renovating or painting or putting a pool in or doing something like that. And definitely we're obsessed with that in Australia, and I know you guys are here too, and I think that's a great thing. I've burned a carpenter for forty five years and all longer actually, but I started when I was seventeen and I'm in my sixties, and so that's all I've been doing my whole life. And then twenty five years ago I mixed it with a bit of Telly and so I've had the best of both worlds because I love Telly and I love building and you do appeal.

So is that because we kind of like the Aussie bloke and we like someone that's a bit of a straight shooter and our tradees are a bit late there, so you are kind of, you know, like, obviously you're popular, otherwise they wouldn't store Heavy Year all these years later.

So is that because we kind of like the Aussie bloke and we like someone that's a bit of a straight shooter and our tradees are a bit late there, so you are kind of, you know, like, obviously you're popular, otherwise they wouldn't store Heavy Year all these years later.

And yeah, I've been very lucky, and I think I've just been myself and don't try and put on any airs and graces or any different persona on.

And yeah, I've been very lucky, and I think I've just been myself and don't try and put on any airs and graces or any different persona on.

It's just me.

It's just me.

So whenever people meet me they say, oh, you're exactly like you are on the Tiger. Yeah, because I've been rehearsing that for sixty two years. Yeah, I don't need to be anybody else. I can just be myself. And if in the early days, if the or public didn't like me or the viewers, well then I wouldn't have lasted.

So whenever people meet me they say, oh, you're exactly like you are on the Tiger. Yeah, because I've been rehearsing that for sixty two years. Yeah, I don't need to be anybody else. I can just be myself. And if in the early days, if the or public didn't like me or the viewers, well then I wouldn't have lasted.

No, And so did you think all those years ago that you would still be doing it all these years later and it would be popular and keep going and going and going.

No, And so did you think all those years ago that you would still be doing it all these years later and it would be popular and keep going and going and going.

Oh no, no, not at all. Like I started. I've done about ten different shows. This is just the last show that I've done at the moment. And when we first kicked off on a show called back Our Blitz, which was a building show as well, and I was the carpenter on that show. You know, my wife said to me, well, you should do this, because I'd knocked back the screen test that I was offered, and she said, well, you may as well do it, and then you can do something different for a year because you've been doing this since you was seven and I was thirty six at the time, and she said, you know, like you might get a good six months out of it or something different.

Oh no, no, not at all. Like I started. I've done about ten different shows. This is just the last show that I've done at the moment. And when we first kicked off on a show called back Our Blitz, which was a building show as well, and I was the carpenter on that show. You know, my wife said to me, well, you should do this, because I'd knocked back the screen test that I was offered, and she said, well, you may as well do it, and then you can do something different for a year because you've been doing this since you was seven and I was thirty six at the time, and she said, you know, like you might get a good six months out of it or something different.

Bit of fun.

Bit of fun.

And my wife and I've been married for thirty one years and I'm still there twenty five years later.

And my wife and I've been married for thirty one years and I'm still there twenty five years later.

And isn't it cool? Because also with being a trade is you could just go back to it if it hadn't worked a year later. Yeah, it's not like some careers. If I give that up, what do I do? You had your tools to fall back on.

And isn't it cool? Because also with being a trade is you could just go back to it if it hadn't worked a year later. Yeah, it's not like some careers. If I give that up, what do I do? You had your tools to fall back on.

Well, I never gave it up.

Well, I never gave it up.

Yeah, so I still had a carpentry building business with a couple of boys working for me until I was fifty.

Yeah, so I still had a carpentry building business with a couple of boys working for me until I was fifty.

Oh wow too, I did both.

Oh wow too, I did both.

Yeah, and I've only just sort of retired from that business about ten years ago.

Yeah, and I've only just sort of retired from that business about ten years ago.

That's kind of healthy though, right. It keeps it bit real and you don't just become that yourself TV star that you could have.

That's kind of healthy though, right. It keeps it bit real and you don't just become that yourself TV star that you could have.

Well, yeah, we don't use the word TV star in our house, we don't.

Well, yeah, we don't use the word TV star in our house, we don't.

I just go to work, Yeah, that's all I do. Yeah.

I just go to work, Yeah, that's all I do. Yeah.

Yeah, Yeah, I raised my children. They were all born with me on the Telly. I did both. Of course, I was going at half the time building and half the time telly. But we you know, they were very well educated not to ever mention the television at school. Yeah, ever, and they survived that whole period without any dramas.

Yeah, Yeah, I raised my children. They were all born with me on the Telly. I did both. Of course, I was going at half the time building and half the time telly. But we you know, they were very well educated not to ever mention the television at school. Yeah, ever, and they survived that whole period without any dramas.

Yeah, and there's just what just to give them their own space to grow as your own individuals.

Yeah, and there's just what just to give them their own space to grow as your own individuals.

Yeah, well, I said, you know, if you mentioned that until about it too much, people will just hate you.

Yeah, well, I said, you know, if you mentioned that until about it too much, people will just hate you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, it'll just be annoying and people will say that you're a show off or that you're this and that, and so just don't ever mention it.

Yeah, it'll just be annoying and people will say that you're a show off or that you're this and that, and so just don't ever mention it.

Yeah. I like that Okay, tell me about season twenty of the Block. It's on three now. I've heard this some twists and tunes and potentially some drama going on. Yeah, how much can you tell us?

Yeah. I like that Okay, tell me about season twenty of the Block. It's on three now. I've heard this some twists and tunes and potentially some drama going on. Yeah, how much can you tell us?

Oh? Look, there is something I can tell you is that there's a couple of firsts in twenty seasons of the Block. A couple of things happen in this season that have never happened before, and that's contestant related, not building related. So it's a really traumatic turn of events at times, and it's really you know, we always say that it's a roller coaster, but this is like even a roller coaster for me really along the way and right to the very end, like the last four weeks is first again, and so it's a really one of those because halfway through the year is you know, I was telling.

Oh? Look, there is something I can tell you is that there's a couple of firsts in twenty seasons of the Block. A couple of things happen in this season that have never happened before, and that's contestant related, not building related. So it's a really traumatic turn of events at times, and it's really you know, we always say that it's a roller coaster, but this is like even a roller coaster for me really along the way and right to the very end, like the last four weeks is first again, and so it's a really one of those because halfway through the year is you know, I was telling.

People you have to watch this till the end. Wow, from the beginning to the end.

People you have to watch this till the end. Wow, from the beginning to the end.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know it started a couple of days ago and it's all hunky dory right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I know it started a couple of days ago and it's all hunky dory right now.

Yeah, feller Pilon looks magnificent.

Yeah, feller Pilon looks magnificent.

It's about two hours from Melbourne.

It's about two hours from Melbourne.

Yeah, but at times it goes pair shaped pretty quickly.

Yeah, but at times it goes pair shaped pretty quickly.

So do you get irritated necessarily with these contestants. But you've been let's go over the years. I mean, we all like or get on better with some people more than others, and so that's not so you must find some of them irritating.

So do you get irritated necessarily with these contestants. But you've been let's go over the years. I mean, we all like or get on better with some people more than others, and so that's not so you must find some of them irritating.

Look I do, but that's in time because I always give everybody a fair chance right from the start until they show colors that make me think otherwise, because you know, I've got to be fair to them. And they're under pressure, they're away from their families, they're getting judged every week.

Look I do, but that's in time because I always give everybody a fair chance right from the start until they show colors that make me think otherwise, because you know, I've got to be fair to them. And they're under pressure, they're away from their families, they're getting judged every week.

So I do give them a fair run.

So I do give them a fair run.

And I'm on their team right from the beginning, and I'm on their team all the way through to the end because I want them to make money.

And I'm on their team right from the beginning, and I'm on their team all the way through to the end because I want them to make money.

I realize what they've given up.

I realize what they've given up.

I realized that some of them have worked hard, but a lot of people don't work hard. But they're the ones that I dislike, really, because if you're lazy, that's the big thing for me.

I realized that some of them have worked hard, but a lot of people don't work hard. But they're the ones that I dislike, really, because if you're lazy, that's the big thing for me.

I don't like anyone that's lazy.

I don't like anyone that's lazy.

When you've been given an opportunity, can you be lazy on the show?

When you've been given an opportunity, can you be lazy on the show?

Absolutely?

Absolutely?

You watch this series, really, you'll come to a determination of whether some people are more lazy and some aren't.

You watch this series, really, you'll come to a determination of whether some people are more lazy and some aren't.

Are the ones that work hard and more successful.

Are the ones that work hard and more successful.

Absolutely, yeah, always, yeah, and they have a better time.

Absolutely, yeah, always, yeah, and they have a better time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you're lazy, you're always looking for something to do and you don't know where to start. But if you just get into it and get going, then I mean, that's my theory on life is if you work really hard, then at the end of that you're getting an euphoric experience from it.

If you're lazy, you're always looking for something to do and you don't know where to start. But if you just get into it and get going, then I mean, that's my theory on life is if you work really hard, then at the end of that you're getting an euphoric experience from it.

And that's how I did it. You know. I always worked.

And that's how I did it. You know. I always worked.

Really hard, and when I was on television, I was working on the tools as well in the early days, like I was doing what these guys do in other shows. So I know what that you for a team spirit feeling is like. And I love it. And then you have a cold beer at the end of the day. You can get so much out of working hard and feeling great about yourself. And that's why a lot of people I think that don't have physical jobs, you know, have some maybe you know, they get a little bit of anxiety, a little bit of depression because they haven't got that euphoric experience of working to your drop Yeah.

Really hard, and when I was on television, I was working on the tools as well in the early days, like I was doing what these guys do in other shows. So I know what that you for a team spirit feeling is like. And I love it. And then you have a cold beer at the end of the day. You can get so much out of working hard and feeling great about yourself. And that's why a lot of people I think that don't have physical jobs, you know, have some maybe you know, they get a little bit of anxiety, a little bit of depression because they haven't got that euphoric experience of working to your drop Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, and do you need I mean, like you do, You've got yourself and then you've got some wonderful experts and those that help them. So do you need to have that ability to have that vision yourself or can you just take that advice and really know what you think, Well, it won't work, and then.

Yeah, yeah, and do you need I mean, like you do, You've got yourself and then you've got some wonderful experts and those that help them. So do you need to have that ability to have that vision yourself or can you just take that advice and really know what you think, Well, it won't work, and then.

Just go for it now, I think, you know, like if you're going to enter, like we get forty thousand people applying for the blocker, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to forty thousand couples. Oh yeah, yeah, there's a couple of years ago, we're getting fifty fifty six.

Just go for it now, I think, you know, like if you're going to enter, like we get forty thousand people applying for the blocker, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to forty thousand couples. Oh yeah, yeah, there's a couple of years ago, we're getting fifty fifty six.

Well, how do you.

Well, how do you.

Know, We've got casting agencies and that go through the majority of it, and I think a lot of those people can get weeded out pretty quickly. Yeah, you know, like into a yes in a no box and then the yes box ends up being two thousand something like that, and then you know, we get we can get through it pretty quickly.

Know, We've got casting agencies and that go through the majority of it, and I think a lot of those people can get weeded out pretty quickly. Yeah, you know, like into a yes in a no box and then the yes box ends up being two thousand something like that, and then you know, we get we can get through it pretty quickly.

But we've got people working.

But we've got people working.

On that, and then it gets down to the last fifty or sixty and then more eyes get on board and have a look then. So that's how the process works, and some of those people from two years ago get put in a maybe pile over here for the following years or years to come.

On that, and then it gets down to the last fifty or sixty and then more eyes get on board and have a look then. So that's how the process works, and some of those people from two years ago get put in a maybe pile over here for the following years or years to come.

So it's a bit of a casting process.

So it's a bit of a casting process.

But It's very easy for teams, couples, friends, whoever your team is, to you know, to basically lie in the interview process, you know, to say I can do this and this and this, and then when they get there on the day they can't. They're very cutesy, pie and happy and happy go lucky, and then when they get there they're not. So A lot of people say, oh, that, you know, the drama and all that sort of thing, But we don't create that drama on the show.

But It's very easy for teams, couples, friends, whoever your team is, to you know, to basically lie in the interview process, you know, to say I can do this and this and this, and then when they get there on the day they can't. They're very cutesy, pie and happy and happy go lucky, and then when they get there they're not. So A lot of people say, oh, that, you know, the drama and all that sort of thing, But we don't create that drama on the show.

We don't put it in place. It's an organic show.

We don't put it in place. It's an organic show.

We just have to leave them to their devices and it evolves organically in their personality and they're along with their building at the same time.

We just have to leave them to their devices and it evolves organically in their personality and they're along with their building at the same time.

Yeah, and surely is some of the drama or some of the emotion around it because you're tired, as you said, you're away from your family and friends, you haven't got those same connections. You're frustrated, I mentioned I would be.

Yeah, and surely is some of the drama or some of the emotion around it because you're tired, as you said, you're away from your family and friends, you haven't got those same connections. You're frustrated, I mentioned I would be.

Yeah. Look, some people really handle it very differently to others, and some people can cop it on the chin. But you know, you sort of know what you're getting in for when you're doing this show, and what you need is a.

Yeah. Look, some people really handle it very differently to others, and some people can cop it on the chin. But you know, you sort of know what you're getting in for when you're doing this show, and what you need is a.

Great work ethic and resilience.

Great work ethic and resilience.

Yeah, that's just and I think maybe some people are lacking a bit of resilience compared to fifteen years.

Yeah, that's just and I think maybe some people are lacking a bit of resilience compared to fifteen years.

If you were interviewing me with the fact that I hate my husband telling me what to do be effecting me not coming.

If you were interviewing me with the fact that I hate my husband telling me what to do be effecting me not coming.

On, well, that probably would be a good factor for us. We got that.

On, well, that probably would be a good factor for us. We got that.

If you're a hard worker with resilience and you don't like you have me telling you what to do, you'd probably be in the top twenty.

If you're a hard worker with resilience and you don't like you have me telling you what to do, you'd probably be in the top twenty.

Okay, see how much is it changed over the last twenty seasons, because well, just the way we build houses, the properties changed, the markets changed, I mean, you know, so all of that. And are the contestants different than in the past.

Okay, see how much is it changed over the last twenty seasons, because well, just the way we build houses, the properties changed, the markets changed, I mean, you know, so all of that. And are the contestants different than in the past.

Look, they're very much different than twenty years ago.

Look, they're very much different than twenty years ago.

They you know, I think that, and we all know this. You know that younger people are tending to lack a little bit of resilience. Some are not, some are fantastic, but some, you know, really you need to knuckle down. And when I was their age, you know, like I compare myself because we had some twenty eight year olds on and I compare my twenty eight year old self to them, and it's just like chalk and cheese. Even my sons are chalk and cheese to some of these people. There's some things that happen in the first four weeks or say that you'll know what I'm talking about. I don't want to give anything away, because it's pretty compelling viewing, and some stuff happens.

They you know, I think that, and we all know this. You know that younger people are tending to lack a little bit of resilience. Some are not, some are fantastic, but some, you know, really you need to knuckle down. And when I was their age, you know, like I compare myself because we had some twenty eight year olds on and I compare my twenty eight year old self to them, and it's just like chalk and cheese. Even my sons are chalk and cheese to some of these people. There's some things that happen in the first four weeks or say that you'll know what I'm talking about. I don't want to give anything away, because it's pretty compelling viewing, and some stuff happens.

And I was a bit taken back and a bit shocked as to that lack of.

And I was a bit taken back and a bit shocked as to that lack of.

Something to shock you.

Something to shock you.

Yeah, I know, I hate and I sort of you know, gusht I couldn't sue myself in that position.

Yeah, I know, I hate and I sort of you know, gusht I couldn't sue myself in that position.

Wow, as a twenty eight year old or anyway.

Wow, as a twenty eight year old or anyway.

But everybody deals with different things in different ways, and I think that, Yeah, I can't talk too much.

But everybody deals with different things in different ways, and I think that, Yeah, I can't talk too much.

It is really compelling viewing. I'm telling you, you got to watch it.

It is really compelling viewing. I'm telling you, you got to watch it.

And our crew, like we've had long term cameramen and women, and our executive producers and our producers. We're being together for twenty years and we're all taken aback.

And our crew, like we've had long term cameramen and women, and our executive producers and our producers. We're being together for twenty years and we're all taken aback.

Wow, Okay, that you've got me, You've got me. Okay, talk to me then about how property has changed. Yeah.

Wow, Okay, that you've got me, You've got me. Okay, talk to me then about how property has changed. Yeah.

Yeah, Well that's another thing about our show that were you're saying, why is it's so popular. I think it's because we showcase new products and new styles. Of building and new ways to build, and you used to new products internally and externally, and then of course what's on trend in design and the finishing touches because people mums and dads are doing this at home every weekend. They're doing up a bedroom or their kids bedroom, or they're redoing their kitchen, and that's the probably the most important rooms that you do is your bathrooms, in your kitchens and things like that.

Yeah, Well that's another thing about our show that were you're saying, why is it's so popular. I think it's because we showcase new products and new styles. Of building and new ways to build, and you used to new products internally and externally, and then of course what's on trend in design and the finishing touches because people mums and dads are doing this at home every weekend. They're doing up a bedroom or their kids bedroom, or they're redoing their kitchen, and that's the probably the most important rooms that you do is your bathrooms, in your kitchens and things like that.

But really great design ideas, but.

But really great design ideas, but.

New building products and we show and we're not shy about using product placement because that's how our show survives. It's such a big show that we need sponsors to support us with materials and advertising, of course, but the great thing about that is we go to these big supplies, example, James Hardy and people like that, So what have you got that's new, and then we showcase that to show everybody at home what's new in re plumbing, different styles of vanities and tap wear and all that sort of stuff.

New building products and we show and we're not shy about using product placement because that's how our show survives. It's such a big show that we need sponsors to support us with materials and advertising, of course, but the great thing about that is we go to these big supplies, example, James Hardy and people like that, So what have you got that's new, and then we showcase that to show everybody at home what's new in re plumbing, different styles of vanities and tap wear and all that sort of stuff.

So that's where.

So that's where.

Our show is great, I think for mums and dads that are doing renovations or building a new home and then they can get some great ideas. The building side of things is for us it's got a lot bigger. The original blocks were their apartments. In the original block, they were the same size as the lounge and dining of this one.

Our show is great, I think for mums and dads that are doing renovations or building a new home and then they can get some great ideas. The building side of things is for us it's got a lot bigger. The original blocks were their apartments. In the original block, they were the same size as the lounge and dining of this one.

Really yes, holy moment.

Really yes, holy moment.

So the whole apartment was about fifty years about seventy.

So the whole apartment was about fifty years about seventy.

Square meds eighty square meters, and the lounge dining kitchen of these is one twenty or ninety.

Square meds eighty square meters, and the lounge dining kitchen of these is one twenty or ninety.

Oh yeah, a lot differently.

Oh yeah, a lot differently.

So there's a I mean, and we have talked about the lack of resilience, but in our point of view, from their point of view, we are making it harder.

So there's a I mean, and we have talked about the lack of resilience, but in our point of view, from their point of view, we are making it harder.

Yeah, big, big, big work, big reward, that's right. Hey, So that auction process, god.

Yeah, big, big, big work, big reward, that's right. Hey, So that auction process, god.

I'm nervous. I I that't feeling a bit sick.

I'm nervous. I I that't feeling a bit sick.

As going to say, you must feel it for them because, as you say, you want them to make money and you want them to do well, Yes.

As going to say, you must feel it for them because, as you say, you want them to make money and you want them to do well, Yes.

I do, and like you know, and I'm you know, these guys are young people. So I sort of take them on as a bit of a father role. And you know, I'm living with them for three months, and I work seven days a week when I'm there Saturday, and so I take them on as a bit of a you know, the kids. I call them the kids sometimes not really on camera. So I really want them to do well. And we never set anyone up to fail. That's something that people ask us. Do you get in their way and stop them and slow them down? Okay, No, you've got it all wrong. We support them and we want them to finish every week. We don't want anyone not to finish up in a week, and we never set anyone up to fail anything.

I do, and like you know, and I'm you know, these guys are young people. So I sort of take them on as a bit of a father role. And you know, I'm living with them for three months, and I work seven days a week when I'm there Saturday, and so I take them on as a bit of a you know, the kids. I call them the kids sometimes not really on camera. So I really want them to do well. And we never set anyone up to fail. That's something that people ask us. Do you get in their way and stop them and slow them down? Okay, No, you've got it all wrong. We support them and we want them to finish every week. We don't want anyone not to finish up in a week, and we never set anyone up to fail anything.

We want them to make as much money.

We want them to make as much money.

As they can so the block for them will be life changing, which it has been for so many people. But again, if you don't have all your planets aligned, and I tell them this in a dinner or a lunch in the first week. We always have a get together at the beginning, and I say, you've got to have all your planets aligned. You've got to have a great design, you've got to have an emotional connection with the buyer, a great real estate agent, you've got to have a great auctioneer. And if anyone one of those is a misstep, then you'll probably fail.

As they can so the block for them will be life changing, which it has been for so many people. But again, if you don't have all your planets aligned, and I tell them this in a dinner or a lunch in the first week. We always have a get together at the beginning, and I say, you've got to have all your planets aligned. You've got to have a great design, you've got to have an emotional connection with the buyer, a great real estate agent, you've got to have a great auctioneer. And if anyone one of those is a misstep, then you'll probably fail.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, everything's going to be perfect, and you know that emotional connection, which is something that I talk.

Yeah, everything's going to be perfect, and you know that emotional connection, which is something that I talk.

About every year.

About every year.

We all have bought a house or rented a house at some point in our lives, and you'll walk into a joint your guard, I don't know what it is, but I just don't like this place, whether it's and you don't even know why you don't like it.

We all have bought a house or rented a house at some point in our lives, and you'll walk into a joint your guard, I don't know what it is, but I just don't like this place, whether it's and you don't even know why you don't like it.

Sometimes it's too cold or whatever.

Sometimes it's too cold or whatever.

And then other joints you walk into and you go, I don't know what it is, but I love this place. I love that garden, or there's something about this the feeling, the smell, and that's that emotional connection. And it's very easy because we've got five houses in a row. It's very easy for someone to not get an emotional connection with House one and just move over to House three.

And then other joints you walk into and you go, I don't know what it is, but I love this place. I love that garden, or there's something about this the feeling, the smell, and that's that emotional connection. And it's very easy because we've got five houses in a row. It's very easy for someone to not get an emotional connection with House one and just move over to House three.

Yeah, yeah, true three, because they've got choices.

Yeah, yeah, true three, because they've got choices.

They've got five choices.

They've got five choices.

So the emotional connection is even more important with our situation than it is for just one house in one street.

So the emotional connection is even more important with our situation than it is for just one house in one street.

That's so you love it? Ah, So do you think you've got more? You've got how many more seasons? Sho we do another eighteen?

That's so you love it? Ah, So do you think you've got more? You've got how many more seasons? Sho we do another eighteen?

No, it don't matter. I'll be being pushed around even in another eighteen. But look, I do love it, and I love the building process. I love being there with a block of land. And then three months later standing in a kitchen, and I love things coming up out of the ground, so you're standing on dirt and then you're standing on a platform, and then you've got walls around you with.

No, it don't matter. I'll be being pushed around even in another eighteen. But look, I do love it, and I love the building process. I love being there with a block of land. And then three months later standing in a kitchen, and I love things coming up out of the ground, so you're standing on dirt and then you're standing on a platform, and then you've got walls around you with.

A roof on you. I love that price. I always have since I was a kid.

A roof on you. I love that price. I always have since I was a kid.

So I've got I'm definitely signed by the network for two more. Yeah, and then we'll see after that. I'll be Paula. I'll be sixty five when we're heading into a new contract.

So I've got I'm definitely signed by the network for two more. Yeah, and then we'll see after that. I'll be Paula. I'll be sixty five when we're heading into a new contract.

Young. I know, yng, it's new fifty five, I know it is. Yes. What they say, are you Are you one of those trade's? Is she who's married to them? Are you one of those trad's that's own house is not furnished? Are you block where they?

Young. I know, yng, it's new fifty five, I know it is. Yes. What they say, are you Are you one of those trade's? Is she who's married to them? Are you one of those trad's that's own house is not furnished? Are you block where they?

No, I'm not one of those tradees. I built.

No, I'm not one of those tradees. I built.

I built my wife a couple of homes and finished them completely the first years ago one when we were first married, because we didn't have much money, so that took a little while, a bit of a process. I put a little bathroom in upstairs in the bedroom that was half completed for many years, and she hit. My wife had to carry a bucket of water up every night to flush the toilet because it wasn't plumbed in, but the toilet worked. It was plumbed in for sewerage for waste, not for water coming in. Okay, so she had to flush it with a bucket for a long time.

I built my wife a couple of homes and finished them completely the first years ago one when we were first married, because we didn't have much money, so that took a little while, a bit of a process. I put a little bathroom in upstairs in the bedroom that was half completed for many years, and she hit. My wife had to carry a bucket of water up every night to flush the toilet because it wasn't plumbed in, but the toilet worked. It was plumbed in for sewerage for waste, not for water coming in. Okay, so she had to flush it with a bucket for a long time.

Yeah. Well, I called my coul de sect trading air because honestly, we all are so a new fridge, and so I wrung the plumber over the road and said, mate, come plumber with fridge because if I don't do it, you know, And he goes, yeah, he said a lot, Just come over now and do it for you. Yeah, there'd be great at the end, water away. You goes. She said, I can't charge you, but b when you see the misses, for god's sakes, don't tell her I did this. She's been waiting two and a half years. That's right, just like right. Yeah, he said, I can't put a bill throw, so will take some beer.

Yeah. Well, I called my coul de sect trading air because honestly, we all are so a new fridge, and so I wrung the plumber over the road and said, mate, come plumber with fridge because if I don't do it, you know, And he goes, yeah, he said a lot, Just come over now and do it for you. Yeah, there'd be great at the end, water away. You goes. She said, I can't charge you, but b when you see the misses, for god's sakes, don't tell her I did this. She's been waiting two and a half years. That's right, just like right. Yeah, he said, I can't put a bill throw, so will take some beer.

Isn't she sees all the bills.

Isn't she sees all the bills.

Yeah, so that's how that goes. Hey, thanks so much, Scott. We're going to take a break and when we come right back, we're going to pack your brain and we're going to get some real advice on how to renovate and do some DIY we are back with host of the Block Australia, Scott cam We're having great, great chat here. As we discussed in the first section, you're a trained trade see you're a cavender, eighteen years on the block, two books behind you. I reckon you're the best man for advice about renovating, and I think we need to talk a bit more about hard work and resilience because it's just not enough out there. Okay, let's start with the traps. What are some of the renovating traps that people fall into.

Yeah, so that's how that goes. Hey, thanks so much, Scott. We're going to take a break and when we come right back, we're going to pack your brain and we're going to get some real advice on how to renovate and do some DIY we are back with host of the Block Australia, Scott cam We're having great, great chat here. As we discussed in the first section, you're a trained trade see you're a cavender, eighteen years on the block, two books behind you. I reckon you're the best man for advice about renovating, and I think we need to talk a bit more about hard work and resilience because it's just not enough out there. Okay, let's start with the traps. What are some of the renovating traps that people fall into.

Look, they're really obvious ones, and that is budget of course, variations and if folks at home don't understand that, it means changing your mind.

Look, they're really obvious ones, and that is budget of course, variations and if folks at home don't understand that, it means changing your mind.

And in the building industry it's called variations.

And in the building industry it's called variations.

And so you want to have the kitchen here with a window there and the door there, and then halfway through the bill you decide you want to move the door to there. But that's been framed up differently, and so that's a variation. Okay, that might cost you two grand or three grand. Some variations to cost you five grand. If you do ten of those, it's fifty grand.

And so you want to have the kitchen here with a window there and the door there, and then halfway through the bill you decide you want to move the door to there. But that's been framed up differently, and so that's a variation. Okay, that might cost you two grand or three grand. Some variations to cost you five grand. If you do ten of those, it's fifty grand.

Oh yeah, that's true. Now, are the budget wise and on there?

Oh yeah, that's true. Now, are the budget wise and on there?

Though?

Though?

Are there certain things that you should spend money on and the quality really matters, and then other things that it doesn't.

Are there certain things that you should spend money on and the quality really matters, and then other things that it doesn't.

Yeah, I think that it's the obvious ones.

Yeah, I think that it's the obvious ones.

And you put you put your money into your kitchen, and you don't need much money in your bedrooms. You know, you put a coat of pain in the bedroom and it's happy days. And the master bedroom too. You know, you could probably live with that in yourself or instead of the master. They're calling the primary bedroom the stuff because of that you have.

And you put you put your money into your kitchen, and you don't need much money in your bedrooms. You know, you put a coat of pain in the bedroom and it's happy days. And the master bedroom too. You know, you could probably live with that in yourself or instead of the master. They're calling the primary bedroom the stuff because of that you have.

Yeah, but the main bedroom.

Yeah, but the main bedroom.

Yeah, my wife always says, we don't have to do much in our bedroom because no one goes in there.

Yeah, my wife always says, we don't have to do much in our bedroom because no one goes in there.

It's just us.

It's just us.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, But the kitchen everybody goes into, and the bathroom downstairs near the kitchen everyone goes into. So the place is that you want to be proud of in your home is probably where you want to put the money.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, But the kitchen everybody goes into, and the bathroom downstairs near the kitchen everyone goes into. So the place is that you want to be proud of in your home is probably where you want to put the money.

But is something in you buy a bitter quality tep because you're going to use it every day? Is there something in that sort of thing as well? Where you spin? You know, because you could spend fifty backs so you could spin two grand, couldn't you.

But is something in you buy a bitter quality tep because you're going to use it every day? Is there something in that sort of thing as well? Where you spin? You know, because you could spend fifty backs so you could spin two grand, couldn't you.

Yes?

Yes?

I am of the thinking that no, I think you're better off saving money on those sort of things because all taps do their job.

I am of the thinking that no, I think you're better off saving money on those sort of things because all taps do their job.

They've only got one job, water on, water off.

They've only got one job, water on, water off.

If you like the look of it and it's doing the job, we'll spend one hundred bucks, not because you buy a tap for three grand.

If you like the look of it and it's doing the job, we'll spend one hundred bucks, not because you buy a tap for three grand.

Yeah, in a kitchens, crazy.

Yeah, in a kitchens, crazy.

Right, crazy? I find that crazy.

Right, crazy? I find that crazy.

And when I was building many years ago, when I was building houses for other people, you know, they take eight weeks to choose light switches. And you know, if you don't have eight light switches to compare in your house, when you walk in, all your guest does or whatever.

And when I was building many years ago, when I was building houses for other people, you know, they take eight weeks to choose light switches. And you know, if you don't have eight light switches to compare in your house, when you walk in, all your guest does or whatever.

No one's going to know whether the light switch is good or bad. It's a light switch, yeah, and just pick one. Yeah, and I'm worry about it. Yeah, you don't need to spend eight weeks on that.

No one's going to know whether the light switch is good or bad. It's a light switch, yeah, and just pick one. Yeah, and I'm worry about it. Yeah, you don't need to spend eight weeks on that.

Or you can buy a light switch that is eighty one hundred and two hundred bucks each and we need fine one notices that no one notices that, and thing by one that's that's twenty dollars.

Or you can buy a light switch that is eighty one hundred and two hundred bucks each and we need fine one notices that no one notices that, and thing by one that's that's twenty dollars.

Ye.

Ye.

I go and find like I'm doing a renovation at home in Sydney at the moment, not to my house, but somewhere else, and I just walked into the lighting store and we picked all the lights and we spent a little bit of time in that, but not much. And then the light switches. Where's your light switches? So we'll take those. That's it, Yeah, done, how much? Where's the middle of the road ones? These ones will take lot? Fine, they look good.

I go and find like I'm doing a renovation at home in Sydney at the moment, not to my house, but somewhere else, and I just walked into the lighting store and we picked all the lights and we spent a little bit of time in that, but not much. And then the light switches. Where's your light switches? So we'll take those. That's it, Yeah, done, how much? Where's the middle of the road ones? These ones will take lot? Fine, they look good.

Yeah, I need them to switch off power in power, not like we're a rocket size. Okay, So we've got budget, we've got carefully view variations. We've got to make decisions, is what I'm hearing from you.

Yeah, I need them to switch off power in power, not like we're a rocket size. Okay, So we've got budget, we've got carefully view variations. We've got to make decisions, is what I'm hearing from you.

Yeah, big decisions have got to be made quickly, and and I'm good at that because I've been doing it in my whole life, so I'm good at making decisions. I think the budget side of things is you need to make a budget, and you've got to stick to that budget and then don't add anything to it. Don't We've talked about variations, don't change it. But you've really got to have that budget in keeping with what you're doing, because what happens is if you're budget incorrectly, all of a sudden it's.

Yeah, big decisions have got to be made quickly, and and I'm good at that because I've been doing it in my whole life, so I'm good at making decisions. I think the budget side of things is you need to make a budget, and you've got to stick to that budget and then don't add anything to it. Don't We've talked about variations, don't change it. But you've really got to have that budget in keeping with what you're doing, because what happens is if you're budget incorrectly, all of a sudden it's.

Half finished and your run out of money. Yeah, so that happens a lot.

Half finished and your run out of money. Yeah, so that happens a lot.

You go to someone's house it's half done, so you've got to know that. And the other big one is knowing your limitations because a lot of folks want to do a lot themselves. They get the builder and the spark he comes in and obviously he's got to do his bit in the plumber. But then you go, oh, well, I want to do all the plastering. But hanging sheets is pretty easy, but setting it is very difficult if you don't know what you're doing.

You go to someone's house it's half done, so you've got to know that. And the other big one is knowing your limitations because a lot of folks want to do a lot themselves. They get the builder and the spark he comes in and obviously he's got to do his bit in the plumber. But then you go, oh, well, I want to do all the plastering. But hanging sheets is pretty easy, but setting it is very difficult if you don't know what you're doing.

So you got to know your limitations.

So you got to know your limitations.

As well, otherwise you'll just have to do it again and gets pay someone to do it.

As well, otherwise you'll just have to do it again and gets pay someone to do it.

Yeah, And isn't that how you blow your budget though? That you think that the cost is going to be done or I'm going to be able to do it myself, and the next thing, it's another five grand because you have to get someone to do that.

Yeah, And isn't that how you blow your budget though? That you think that the cost is going to be done or I'm going to be able to do it myself, and the next thing, it's another five grand because you have to get someone to do that.

So that's where no your limitations ticks into that.

So that's where no your limitations ticks into that.

And there's also you know, there's nine inch grinders, big tools like that that you need to use, and if you don't know how to use one of them, you know.

And there's also you know, there's nine inch grinders, big tools like that that you need to use, and if you don't know how to use one of them, you know.

It's the best way I know to cut your hand off.

It's the best way I know to cut your hand off.

And so no, your limitations in what you're using and how you're doing it as well.

And so no, your limitations in what you're using and how you're doing it as well.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, then all right, so give me so we've got examples, I'm sure mini of where they've gone wrong. What's kind of nailing it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, then all right, so give me so we've got examples, I'm sure mini of where they've gone wrong. What's kind of nailing it?

Like?

Like?

What what does good look like?

What what does good look like?

What does succeist look as in the finished product?

What does succeist look as in the finished product?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah, Well, painting is really important to make it look good. I mean, that's the last thing that happens in the job. If a painting looks orderary, then the whole job looks ordering, doesn't it. And I think standards, you've got to set yourself a set of standards in your own head. Acceptable standards. They're cord and if someone walks in and goes, oh, this looks good. But if you walk in and go, well, I don't like that and that looks bad, well then the acceptable standards haven't been processed and stuff there.

Yeah, Well, painting is really important to make it look good. I mean, that's the last thing that happens in the job. If a painting looks orderary, then the whole job looks ordering, doesn't it. And I think standards, you've got to set yourself a set of standards in your own head. Acceptable standards. They're cord and if someone walks in and goes, oh, this looks good. But if you walk in and go, well, I don't like that and that looks bad, well then the acceptable standards haven't been processed and stuff there.

Yeah okay, So would you advise anyone to give it a go?

Yeah okay, So would you advise anyone to give it a go?

No, I don't think so, because people admit to themselves that they're no good at handy but you know, handywork and things like that. And you know, I've got mates that couldn't hang a picture, which I find bizarre. But that's all right, because you just presigned yourself to. You know, I can't hang a picture, so I'm never going to try and do it. I'm like that with technology.

No, I don't think so, because people admit to themselves that they're no good at handy but you know, handywork and things like that. And you know, I've got mates that couldn't hang a picture, which I find bizarre. But that's all right, because you just presigned yourself to. You know, I can't hang a picture, so I'm never going to try and do it. I'm like that with technology.

Yeah, I know what you got at, what you're not.

Yeah, I know what you got at, what you're not.

That's what you know.

That's what you know.

And if something goes wrong with my computer, I don't even attempt to anything to even if I push a button, something might disappear. Yeah, so I have to wait for my son to come home and he fixes that for me.

And if something goes wrong with my computer, I don't even attempt to anything to even if I push a button, something might disappear. Yeah, so I have to wait for my son to come home and he fixes that for me.

Yeah. We had a wonderful ad. It was these kids and the playground and they're kind of like Jones. You know how much to do your dagang and you know, do this and do that, and then finding someone says, mate, you know, do it yourself and he sort of can't. Well, well you because you know, I was under John Key's haven. We used to call him Jones because he couldn't. He couldn't even couldn't even knock on the wall and goes. My aim was always to make enough money that I could pay someone else to do it.

Yeah. We had a wonderful ad. It was these kids and the playground and they're kind of like Jones. You know how much to do your dagang and you know, do this and do that, and then finding someone says, mate, you know, do it yourself and he sort of can't. Well, well you because you know, I was under John Key's haven. We used to call him Jones because he couldn't. He couldn't even couldn't even knock on the wall and goes. My aim was always to make enough money that I could pay someone else to do it.

Jonesy has become a term for someone that's no good.

Jonesy has become a term for someone that's no good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In building, Yeah, but it was a kid on a TV.

In building, Yeah, but it was a kid on a TV.

Yeah, for what building supplies? I think, God, I haven't seen it for a while. Was it something Yeah, it was might a t so it's a mighty tea in and he's kind of like, I can't remember the whole. It just became this thing. It was quite funny and the way it was done it was, you know, these kids discussing how they're going to build something and then the other one, you know, no, he was going to he was going to do it that way.

Yeah, for what building supplies? I think, God, I haven't seen it for a while. Was it something Yeah, it was might a t so it's a mighty tea in and he's kind of like, I can't remember the whole. It just became this thing. It was quite funny and the way it was done it was, you know, these kids discussing how they're going to build something and then the other one, you know, no, he was going to he was going to do it that way.

We had that in Australia called not Happy Jan. Have you heard that's just an add on the telly.

We had that in Australia called not Happy Jan. Have you heard that's just an add on the telly.

Yeah, there you go.

Yeah, there you go.

And it became if you weren't happy, you'd say not happy Jan.

And it became if you weren't happy, you'd say not happy Jan.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And there was a woman say that to one of her staff.

And there was a woman say that to one of her staff.

That's how it takes off.

That's how it takes off.

Right.

Right.

Okay, let's go back to a the TV shows like The Block, but you know, equal sort of where we're at in life, you know, and particularly if you're looking at renovating and doing a lot of it yourself, you've got to be prepared to work hard. Yeah, but duty and it just feels like, as you say, now, younger ones, I notice that that lack of resilience that you know. And in fact recently it was an Australian recruitment company that sort of turned around and said that they think that younger people have got much higher expectations of what they think they should be doing and should be worth instead of what the reality is. And when you see that in human nature, don't you?

Okay, let's go back to a the TV shows like The Block, but you know, equal sort of where we're at in life, you know, and particularly if you're looking at renovating and doing a lot of it yourself, you've got to be prepared to work hard. Yeah, but duty and it just feels like, as you say, now, younger ones, I notice that that lack of resilience that you know. And in fact recently it was an Australian recruitment company that sort of turned around and said that they think that younger people have got much higher expectations of what they think they should be doing and should be worth instead of what the reality is. And when you see that in human nature, don't you?

Yeah, I look, And having said that, I don't like to say that a lot, but I do agree with you one hundred percent.

Yeah, I look, And having said that, I don't like to say that a lot, but I do agree with you one hundred percent.

But I know a lot of young kids that are really great.

But I know a lot of young kids that are really great.

Yeah, hey, and.

Yeah, hey, and.

Lots of them too.

Lots of them too.

But I think the concept of people say to me someone, I'm giving it one hundred percent, and I go, like, you cannot say that to me because your one hundred.

But I think the concept of people say to me someone, I'm giving it one hundred percent, and I go, like, you cannot say that to me because your one hundred.

Percent is my forty percent.

Percent is my forty percent.

Yeah, And a lot of people I know, so you're not giving one hundred percent in your mind, you are, but number one. You need to give one hundred and ten percent anyway, But your one hundred in your mind is actually everyone else is forty.

Yeah, And a lot of people I know, so you're not giving one hundred percent in your mind, you are, but number one. You need to give one hundred and ten percent anyway, But your one hundred in your mind is actually everyone else is forty.

So where did you get that workI sect.

So where did you get that workI sect.

Well, I started working in the seventies. And when you worked until you came home and laid on the floor every afternoon on my back on the lounge and floor to stretch my back out and rest my shoulders and arms because it was exhausted. Yeah, And that was the norm of what you did. I worked for my brother who was five years older than me, a big guy, and he worked really hard, so I worked really hard. My dad was a professional fisherman with his dad and his dad.

Well, I started working in the seventies. And when you worked until you came home and laid on the floor every afternoon on my back on the lounge and floor to stretch my back out and rest my shoulders and arms because it was exhausted. Yeah, And that was the norm of what you did. I worked for my brother who was five years older than me, a big guy, and he worked really hard, so I worked really hard. My dad was a professional fisherman with his dad and his dad.

And they worked really hard.

And they worked really hard.

And then but then they went into frozen fish and things like that down the track.

And then but then they went into frozen fish and things like that down the track.

But yeah, I mean.

But yeah, I mean.

You'd seen it, you'd loved it, your breathe it.

You'd seen it, you'd loved it, your breathe it.

Yeah, and if you but that was the norm, you know, that was you had to go to work and you worked until you were You come out of that day at four thirty five o'clock and you get into your stiff as stiff as a board and go home and.

Yeah, and if you but that was the norm, you know, that was you had to go to work and you worked until you were You come out of that day at four thirty five o'clock and you get into your stiff as stiff as a board and go home and.

Have a couple of beers. My dad, but what are your foric feeling?

Have a couple of beers. My dad, but what are your foric feeling?

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're doing to My dad was a carpet and lino layer when lino was thing. So my job is the only daughter and as the kid was to walk on his back to try and stretch and track it. It's kind of like which sounds weird, but you get it right.

Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're doing to My dad was a carpet and lino layer when lino was thing. So my job is the only daughter and as the kid was to walk on his back to try and stretch and track it. It's kind of like which sounds weird, but you get it right.

I've been telling people your job is very so I couldn't close them up because they're so stiff.

I've been telling people your job is very so I couldn't close them up because they're so stiff.

Wow your fingers, yeah, yeah, So what advice would you give to someone that was thinking about putting their name forward for the block.

Wow your fingers, yeah, yeah, So what advice would you give to someone that was thinking about putting their name forward for the block.

Well, I think that you've got to be careful what you wish for in the block. It's it's really hard. You don't sleep that much towards the end of the week. You've got to work really hard. The rewards are incredible if you do everything right. But you know, everybody that's been on the block that's done it the right way says it's the hardest thing they've ever done, but the best thing.

Well, I think that you've got to be careful what you wish for in the block. It's it's really hard. You don't sleep that much towards the end of the week. You've got to work really hard. The rewards are incredible if you do everything right. But you know, everybody that's been on the block that's done it the right way says it's the hardest thing they've ever done, but the best thing.

Yeah, most rewarding. Okay, all right, I like that, Scott. The podcast is called Ask Me Anything, and I feel like I've done all the asking. So this is your chance that if you've got a question for me, that you can ask me something.

Yeah, most rewarding. Okay, all right, I like that, Scott. The podcast is called Ask Me Anything, and I feel like I've done all the asking. So this is your chance that if you've got a question for me, that you can ask me something.

Well, I feel as though you've got that's thank you for letting me ask you a question. And we've talked a lot about doy and all that sort of thing, and you've got you've got a tradey hobby, yeah.

Well, I feel as though you've got that's thank you for letting me ask you a question. And we've talked a lot about doy and all that sort of thing, and you've got you've got a tradey hobby, yeah.

And kiddies trading. So what are you? Are you a handy person in the home.

And kiddies trading. So what are you? Are you a handy person in the home.

Do you get in and do a little bit of work and have you had a massive fail mate?

Do you get in and do a little bit of work and have you had a massive fail mate?

M mmmm, So I've only been married about twelve years. And so the kids are step children and my own children. So we're a nice you know, we're a nice planted family. Otherwise it's going to sound weird that I think I've got you know. Anyway, So before being married. The truth of the matter is that I if I was hanging a picture on the wall, I'd do at the heel of the schoe. I sense the hesitation to say that. I just I would not have a bone in my body.