Hello.

Hello.

I am Paula Bennett, and welcome to my new Zealand Herald podcast, Ask me anything. And one thing I've learned in life is it's never too like to learn something new.

I am Paula Bennett, and welcome to my new Zealand Herald podcast, Ask me anything. And one thing I've learned in life is it's never too like to learn something new.

So on this podcast, I talk to people from all walks of.

So on this podcast, I talk to people from all walks of.

Life to hear about how they got to where they are, get some advice and guidance on some of life's biggest questions. Now I have my first repeat guest, and it's because he's so full of advice. It's good.

Life to hear about how they got to where they are, get some advice and guidance on some of life's biggest questions. Now I have my first repeat guest, and it's because he's so full of advice. It's good.

I didn't stay full of himself.

I didn't stay full of himself.

I said, well, look and.

I said, well, look and.

You already know it is.

You already know it is.

It's good than the laugh, which is everyone. So of course it is news talk z bes Berry Sober been drew quite a lot though. You see since we last talk, it's been just over years since Barry underwent heart surgery and it's been quite a journey and so we want to get some advice on some of that. So Barry, welcome back.

It's good than the laugh, which is everyone. So of course it is news talk z bes Berry Sober been drew quite a lot though. You see since we last talk, it's been just over years since Barry underwent heart surgery and it's been quite a journey and so we want to get some advice on some of that. So Barry, welcome back.

Hello, Paula. You're very much of the pink.

Hello, Paula. You're very much of the pink.

Today, Very pink today, Yes, very much. So got but going on and I just thought, you know, sneakers in the suit and you're away.

Today, Very pink today, Yes, very much. So got but going on and I just thought, you know, sneakers in the suit and you're away.

I sort of almost need sunglasses, but that's fine. That's all right, I'll suffer.

I sort of almost need sunglasses, but that's fine. That's all right, I'll suffer.

Yeah, you'll be all right.

Yeah, you'll be all right.

I wear pink most days, and I haven't worn pink all week, so I thought i'd overdo it today.

I wear pink most days, and I haven't worn pink all week, so I thought i'd overdo it today.

Excellent.

Excellent.

How's that? Okay? Quick fire questions.

How's that? Okay? Quick fire questions.

If you can go to a pub for a drink with anyone interesting, who would that be?

If you can go to a pub for a drink with anyone interesting, who would that be?

Who would it be? Oh, dear, Nelson Mandela, that would be interesting, it would be I've met him on several occasions, yeah, and sat with him at a dinner.

Who would it be? Oh, dear, Nelson Mandela, that would be interesting, it would be I've met him on several occasions, yeah, and sat with him at a dinner.

So yeah.

So yeah.

But by the way, he did, but he's dead unfortunately. Well and here the picked Jesus he's dead too.

But by the way, he did, but he's dead unfortunately. Well and here the picked Jesus he's dead too.

Yeah, well that's the problem.

Yeah, well that's the problem.

But she she did a lot of questions.

But she she did a lot of questions.

You always go after the unentertainable, don't you really see?

You always go after the unentertainable, don't you really see?

I would probably go Freddy Mercury at the moment, be interesting. Yeah, yeah, he could be, and he would fit in quite well together. Yeah yeah, yeah. And I do quite like my flamboyant gay boys. I've got to be honest. Yeah, yeah, you know, I like the theatrical Yeah they are.

I would probably go Freddy Mercury at the moment, be interesting. Yeah, yeah, he could be, and he would fit in quite well together. Yeah yeah, yeah. And I do quite like my flamboyant gay boys. I've got to be honest. Yeah, yeah, you know, I like the theatrical Yeah they are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Drink of choice.

Drink of choice.

Drink of choice, Oh dear, I love a NEGRONI yes, but the one that I probably and it was funny. I went to a whiskey tasting dinner about three or four years ago. The British ambassador had put on it was weird Whiskeys for fifty years old. And it was a fairly small group and they're all waxing on about whiskeys. And I said to the man who was called the Nose, I said, Scotsman. Obviously, I said, so quaffing whiskey, what would you suggest? He said, Johnny Walker Black? Really, and I've always drunk Johnny Walker Black as a nice quaffing whiskey, an easy one with soda.

Drink of choice, Oh dear, I love a NEGRONI yes, but the one that I probably and it was funny. I went to a whiskey tasting dinner about three or four years ago. The British ambassador had put on it was weird Whiskeys for fifty years old. And it was a fairly small group and they're all waxing on about whiskeys. And I said to the man who was called the Nose, I said, Scotsman. Obviously, I said, so quaffing whiskey, what would you suggest? He said, Johnny Walker Black? Really, and I've always drunk Johnny Walker Black as a nice quaffing whiskey, an easy one with soda.

Well, there you go, Yeah, there you go. Okay, before we get to your health, I think that we need to catch up on news. So we've got Hither pregnant. So you've got a number two child coming along. How old is Aggy at the moment.

Well, there you go, Yeah, there you go. Okay, before we get to your health, I think that we need to catch up on news. So we've got Hither pregnant. So you've got a number two child coming along. How old is Aggy at the moment.

He's just over two and a half, yeah, going on five.

He's just over two and a half, yeah, going on five.

Really, he's a real character.

Really, he's a real character.

Well with you two his parents.

Well with you two his parents.

He's just amazing. And you know, every day is a different one.

He's just amazing. And you know, every day is a different one.

For a that curious brain.

For a that curious brain.

Oh picks up on everything. I love it. And he said, I took him down to newstalk, said be yesterday, walked him down and he always says, Mama on the radio, and then he says, Dad on the radio. And then when he came in and he sat in the studio for a while and then sat outside while mom and Dad were on the radio, and he said, when we were walking, when we were coming home, he said, when I grew up, Iggy on the radio, you never know, yeah, just like your brain had been thinking about it. Yeah.

Oh picks up on everything. I love it. And he said, I took him down to newstalk, said be yesterday, walked him down and he always says, Mama on the radio, and then he says, Dad on the radio. And then when he came in and he sat in the studio for a while and then sat outside while mom and Dad were on the radio, and he said, when we were walking, when we were coming home, he said, when I grew up, Iggy on the radio, you never know, yeah, just like your brain had been thinking about it. Yeah.

Wow.

Wow.

I just love that, the curing actually, and the curiosity of it, you know. And when Steve brawny Us first became a father, he used to write weekly about the you know. And of course he's such a beautiful writer, Steve is and with that sort of imagination. And I just honestly used to look forward to I downloaded for a hop on a plane, you know. And that was seventeen years ago, by the way. And the reason I know all this is because my granddaughter was exactly the same age, so I could see through his eyes.

I just love that, the curing actually, and the curiosity of it, you know. And when Steve brawny Us first became a father, he used to write weekly about the you know. And of course he's such a beautiful writer, Steve is and with that sort of imagination. And I just honestly used to look forward to I downloaded for a hop on a plane, you know. And that was seventeen years ago, by the way. And the reason I know all this is because my granddaughter was exactly the same age, so I could see through his eyes.

Last thing about grandkids though, and you know it, Paula, that you can sort of close the door and say see you next time with your own kids. At my age, if anybody had said to me at my age, I'd still be having kids, said you're so you've got grandkids I've got four grandchildren, wow, in Melbourne.

Last thing about grandkids though, and you know it, Paula, that you can sort of close the door and say see you next time with your own kids. At my age, if anybody had said to me at my age, I'd still be having kids, said you're so you've got grandkids I've got four grandchildren, wow, in Melbourne.

And do you have quite a different relationship with them.

And do you have quite a different relationship with them.

Well, it's terrible because they're overseas. Yes, and in this business it's very hard to get away. And of course they're so busy. I was there last week, Heather and I and Iggy because Eggy was there to meet his nieces and nephews and two of whom are older, well three of whom are older than that, and we had a joke about him being their uncle. Yeah. But and a sister. Of course, my oldest daughter is forty two. Yeah, so it was big sisters forty two. Yeah. But look, they all got on well, they all played together. Eggy didn't Paul rank, which was great. Nice, So we just played like the rest of them.

Well, it's terrible because they're overseas. Yes, and in this business it's very hard to get away. And of course they're so busy. I was there last week, Heather and I and Iggy because Eggy was there to meet his nieces and nephews and two of whom are older, well three of whom are older than that, and we had a joke about him being their uncle. Yeah. But and a sister. Of course, my oldest daughter is forty two. Yeah, so it was big sisters forty two. Yeah. But look, they all got on well, they all played together. Eggy didn't Paul rank, which was great. Nice, So we just played like the rest of them.

Yeah, And there's something in the day.

Yeah, And there's something in the day.

I mean, my family we have because you know, we blended them or old ages and we've got all that stuff going on a bit as well. And we we decided years ago that were just do one hundred percent. So we don't do step sisters or brothers or children. We don't do halves, we don't do you know, we do cousins. We just do one hundred percent, you know, like we're family, although we said.

I mean, my family we have because you know, we blended them or old ages and we've got all that stuff going on a bit as well. And we we decided years ago that were just do one hundred percent. So we don't do step sisters or brothers or children. We don't do halves, we don't do you know, we do cousins. We just do one hundred percent, you know, like we're family, although we said.

Week now about at the moment they're they're cousins. Yeah, because it's too hard for him, I think too. I said to Kate, my oldest daughter, I said, it'll be fantastic when they all grow up and he's their uncle. And I said, even more fantastic for you, Kate, because when you're my age, he'll be in his early thirties. And I would love to have a brother in his early thirties. I really would.

Week now about at the moment they're they're cousins. Yeah, because it's too hard for him, I think too. I said to Kate, my oldest daughter, I said, it'll be fantastic when they all grow up and he's their uncle. And I said, even more fantastic for you, Kate, because when you're my age, he'll be in his early thirties. And I would love to have a brother in his early thirties. I really would.

So you touched on it, and then I took a slightly left, But that another baby at your age.

So you touched on it, and then I took a slightly left, But that another baby at your age.

I mean you didn't imagine that. It wasn't like I would not.

I mean you didn't imagine that. It wasn't like I would not.

Have I would, you know, if it was planned? Absolutely, and you know, I mean, my health is much better than it was a year ago, although a year ago I never ever thought I had a health problem. And that's what we'll talk about. Well that you know that suddenly your life takes a change because your health is something that you've always had in my case, and then suddenly you lose it a bit.

Have I would, you know, if it was planned? Absolutely, and you know, I mean, my health is much better than it was a year ago, although a year ago I never ever thought I had a health problem. And that's what we'll talk about. Well that you know that suddenly your life takes a change because your health is something that you've always had in my case, and then suddenly you lose it a bit.

So becoming a dadd again is a big decision.

So becoming a dadd again is a big decision.

Well it is, and one can only hope that this particular dad can live to see the youngest, the little girl that's coming along in January. One can only hope that I live long enough for her, first of all, to remember her dad, although she'll have older brothers and sisters who'll tell her about the dad. But I would like to see it, get it to a reasonable age so that she doesn't forget me, And that's certainly a possibility.

Well it is, and one can only hope that this particular dad can live to see the youngest, the little girl that's coming along in January. One can only hope that I live long enough for her, first of all, to remember her dad, although she'll have older brothers and sisters who'll tell her about the dad. But I would like to see it, get it to a reasonable age so that she doesn't forget me, And that's certainly a possibility.

But they are a lot of work.

But they are a lot of work.

Although, as you just indicated, grandkids are great because you know, I mean, God, they go and I'm exhausted.

Although, as you just indicated, grandkids are great because you know, I mean, God, they go and I'm exhausted.

Yeah, well, I see I because I every day during the week, I give Eggie his bath and read him a story and put him to bed. And he's always been fantastic at that, and I love it. I really genuinely love it. And I love getting home. I get home early in the evening and Heather's still on air. But I have a great time with Eggie. We've so much fun. It's your little character.

Yeah, well, I see I because I every day during the week, I give Eggie his bath and read him a story and put him to bed. And he's always been fantastic at that, and I love it. I really genuinely love it. And I love getting home. I get home early in the evening and Heather's still on air. But I have a great time with Eggie. We've so much fun. It's your little character.

Yeah, and so number two. But there'll be double work them. Mind, you've got daughters.

Yeah, and so number two. But there'll be double work them. Mind, you've got daughters.

Don't and we do have a nanny, so you know, we're lucky, luckier than many that basically because of what we do. We certainly need time in the office. You can't be there all the time.

Don't and we do have a nanny, so you know, we're lucky, luckier than many that basically because of what we do. We certainly need time in the office. You can't be there all the time.

Okay, Well, because it's an advice you know podcast. Well, you know, we're just try and sneak a little bit of a place in there. I'm not normally that platant listening people. I've got some good advice. Okay, child number seven, for you, there is a wealth of experience. What's your number one takeaway from you your years of parenting?

Okay, Well, because it's an advice you know podcast. Well, you know, we're just try and sneak a little bit of a place in there. I'm not normally that platant listening people. I've got some good advice. Okay, child number seven, for you, there is a wealth of experience. What's your number one takeaway from you your years of parenting?

Well, to be there for them. You know. You know, parents are very important to their kids even as they grow up. You know, as I've discovered over the years that you can only have one on your one mom and one dad, and you know it is important that you stay in touch. I would like to be in touch much more with my two daughters in Melbourne, and we're in touch, but when I say in touch, to be there a bit more for them. And I've got three children and Wellington who have grown up, of course, and we're on the phone a lot, I go down quite a bit.

Well, to be there for them. You know. You know, parents are very important to their kids even as they grow up. You know, as I've discovered over the years that you can only have one on your one mom and one dad, and you know it is important that you stay in touch. I would like to be in touch much more with my two daughters in Melbourne, and we're in touch, but when I say in touch, to be there a bit more for them. And I've got three children and Wellington who have grown up, of course, and we're on the phone a lot, I go down quite a bit.

So do you parent the different children differently? You know what I mean?

So do you parent the different children differently? You know what I mean?

You must have some set rules and things that you that you abide by. But we're all quite different, aren't we and what we respond to and you know, some need more freedom some need a bit more rules and boundary in their own right.

You must have some set rules and things that you that you abide by. But we're all quite different, aren't we and what we respond to and you know, some need more freedom some need a bit more rules and boundary in their own right.

Very very different. I mean, you know, if I look at my six children that I have at the moment, you know they're all different in character really.

Very very different. I mean, you know, if I look at my six children that I have at the moment, you know they're all different in character really.

So did you parent them differently?

So did you parent them differently?

Basically they were all parented exactly the same. Some are more rebellious than others. Some were more bookish than I mean, my daughter in Melbourne, I take my hat off to her because she left school she couldn't be bothered with it at sixteen, went on to do hairdressing and finished her apprenticeship and was very much sought after in Wellington. But she said to me, she said, look, I get tired of people talking to me all the time. She said, I thought I should turn this into a living. So what she's done now she went out and studied sociology and she works in the prisons in Victoria, Wow, with prisoners that are being released. So I think, you know, I said to her when I was there last week, I'll take my hat off to you because you could see a path and you could see what you wanted. And I think that's the main thing with kids these days, because there are many, many more pressures on kids today than there were in.

Basically they were all parented exactly the same. Some are more rebellious than others. Some were more bookish than I mean, my daughter in Melbourne, I take my hat off to her because she left school she couldn't be bothered with it at sixteen, went on to do hairdressing and finished her apprenticeship and was very much sought after in Wellington. But she said to me, she said, look, I get tired of people talking to me all the time. She said, I thought I should turn this into a living. So what she's done now she went out and studied sociology and she works in the prisons in Victoria, Wow, with prisoners that are being released. So I think, you know, I said to her when I was there last week, I'll take my hat off to you because you could see a path and you could see what you wanted. And I think that's the main thing with kids these days, because there are many, many more pressures on kids today than there were in.

My time, and influences and you know, keeping them off the screen and try your nuts that there were so many other pressures in kids'.

My time, and influences and you know, keeping them off the screen and try your nuts that there were so many other pressures in kids'.

Lives that we didn't have. When we were kids. It was you know, you go into a little tree hut and sit around talk and go out and play on trolley's. It was about and play cowboys and Indians, which would be most yps these days.

Lives that we didn't have. When we were kids. It was you know, you go into a little tree hut and sit around talk and go out and play on trolley's. It was about and play cowboys and Indians, which would be most yps these days.

Okay, let's chat politics a bit, because we're one year on from this government being in power. Actually you'll appreciate this. Yesterday I was in the beehive and I went to see as Cheer Farm.

Okay, let's chat politics a bit, because we're one year on from this government being in power. Actually you'll appreciate this. Yesterday I was in the beehive and I went to see as Cheer Farm.

I went to see Minister Seymour.

I went to see Minister Seymour.

So we'd had our meeting and we came out and of course I'm very good friends still with the Deputy b well, deputy Prime Ministers with Winston Peter's office manager. You know SPS, but people never know when in SPS is right in the real world. So anyway, I was out there and I thought, oh, I'll just go and give her a quick hug and say hi, And so I snuck into into the office and his door was closed, so that's perfect. And as you know, and the behind the doors into connection between and so I ran into her and I went at large. Of course, she leapt out and we danced around and we had a big hug and all the rest of it. And I just looked up in his Winnipe sitting at his desk with that wonderful Rice just he did near the right smile on his face, and I just looked at him and I went because I just thought that the doors were closed. Just I brought her and I just went, hello, Deputy Prime Minister, it's I'm lovely for you to have me in your office.

So we'd had our meeting and we came out and of course I'm very good friends still with the Deputy b well, deputy Prime Ministers with Winston Peter's office manager. You know SPS, but people never know when in SPS is right in the real world. So anyway, I was out there and I thought, oh, I'll just go and give her a quick hug and say hi, And so I snuck into into the office and his door was closed, so that's perfect. And as you know, and the behind the doors into connection between and so I ran into her and I went at large. Of course, she leapt out and we danced around and we had a big hug and all the rest of it. And I just looked up in his Winnipe sitting at his desk with that wonderful Rice just he did near the right smile on his face, and I just looked at him and I went because I just thought that the doors were closed. Just I brought her and I just went, hello, Deputy Prime Minister, it's I'm lovely for you to have me in your office.

Then he's you know, when you look at Peter's at seventy eight, he's the most contummate politician. He saw the large crowd he drew at his annual conference just a few days back, which was extraordinary. Really think about eight hundred.

Then he's you know, when you look at Peter's at seventy eight, he's the most contummate politician. He saw the large crowd he drew at his annual conference just a few days back, which was extraordinary. Really think about eight hundred.

That's one of the biggest for them.

That's one of the biggest for them.

Yeah, oh yeah. And it was the thirty one years I think since he Blondon. All remember going out to Alleleie and he launched off the back of a truck with n Shearer, who was a former NAT minister in the old days under Muldoon. But Winston was Look, whether you like him or dislike his politics, he is a continment politician. He knows how to intimate public. He is and that's why as good as our foreign minister. I've watched amongseas on many occasions, and I mean, Condolle's a rise. I could you not used to batter eyelids at him because Peters was. He's very good at engaging and looks smart, looks the part of a foreign minister. And I think, yeah, he's got the child that he's the most well suited to him.

Yeah, oh yeah. And it was the thirty one years I think since he Blondon. All remember going out to Alleleie and he launched off the back of a truck with n Shearer, who was a former NAT minister in the old days under Muldoon. But Winston was Look, whether you like him or dislike his politics, he is a continment politician. He knows how to intimate public. He is and that's why as good as our foreign minister. I've watched amongseas on many occasions, and I mean, Condolle's a rise. I could you not used to batter eyelids at him because Peters was. He's very good at engaging and looks smart, looks the part of a foreign minister. And I think, yeah, he's got the child that he's the most well suited to him.

So don't you think, do you?

So don't you think, do you?

I mean, I think it looks like the coalition are getting on quite well, that those that the three leaders have certainly found a bit of their own.

I mean, I think it looks like the coalition are getting on quite well, that those that the three leaders have certainly found a bit of their own.

Group's difficult. I mean it's never going to be easy. I mean you've got egos to deal with and dero say, David seam has got rather a large ego, although in the past he was happy with an undersecretary when he.

Group's difficult. I mean it's never going to be easy. I mean you've got egos to deal with and dero say, David seam has got rather a large ego, although in the past he was happy with an undersecretary when he.

Was I've got no comment on.

Was I've got no comment on.

He is, of course sponsoring his end of life bill, so he put a lot of work into that and that was taken up by Brook van Valden and did a very good job of it. But so you've got egos to deal with, and he will of course be Deputy Prime minister next year and Winston won't like that because David Seymour and Winston Peters have never got on just never seen eye to eye really on anything. But I think they see eye to I on the country and trying to do better for the country. I'm surprised that Christopher Luxon hasn't maybe done better in the opinion polls because he does get out. I wrote a column relatively recently and talked about the need for him to engage more with the public. Well, he does engage a lot, but its relatability is the issue and whether he relates because the media have had a field day of this man owning seven houses, although shedding a few at the moment. But if you saw a person that worked in top executive jobs at Unilever and the CEO of there in New Zealand making several million dollars a year, you'd say there would be something wrong with him if he didn't have investments and if property is his portfolio, there should be nothing wrong in that. We should be celebrating the fact that we've got a prime minister there's taken a massive pay hit to come and run the country, and I say that's a good thing. And I think the unfortunate thing for Chris Luxon is that people don't see the humorous side of him, and he does. He's got a very good sense of humor. And I'll tell you one little funny story and would sound something that John Key would do. I was sitting and some of your listeners will know the old Parliament buildings in Wellington, and I was sitting cross legged on one of those of the cheers where the constantined lift is. And it came down and opened up, and there's an all vintage lift and Luxeon climbs out and I was on the phone and had my legs crossed with rogues on and he gets out of the lift, pulls out his pocket handkerchief and starts polishing my shirts. Is funny. Yeah, you know a lot of people say, oh, it's greezing to the media, but it's not. He's being funny and he has that sense of humor. And it's a pity the public can't quite understand that there is a side of Luxen that's quite funny. But there's also a very serious side, and that's to clean up the mess that they inherited, and a mess they most certainly did inherit.

He is, of course sponsoring his end of life bill, so he put a lot of work into that and that was taken up by Brook van Valden and did a very good job of it. But so you've got egos to deal with, and he will of course be Deputy Prime minister next year and Winston won't like that because David Seymour and Winston Peters have never got on just never seen eye to eye really on anything. But I think they see eye to I on the country and trying to do better for the country. I'm surprised that Christopher Luxon hasn't maybe done better in the opinion polls because he does get out. I wrote a column relatively recently and talked about the need for him to engage more with the public. Well, he does engage a lot, but its relatability is the issue and whether he relates because the media have had a field day of this man owning seven houses, although shedding a few at the moment. But if you saw a person that worked in top executive jobs at Unilever and the CEO of there in New Zealand making several million dollars a year, you'd say there would be something wrong with him if he didn't have investments and if property is his portfolio, there should be nothing wrong in that. We should be celebrating the fact that we've got a prime minister there's taken a massive pay hit to come and run the country, and I say that's a good thing. And I think the unfortunate thing for Chris Luxon is that people don't see the humorous side of him, and he does. He's got a very good sense of humor. And I'll tell you one little funny story and would sound something that John Key would do. I was sitting and some of your listeners will know the old Parliament buildings in Wellington, and I was sitting cross legged on one of those of the cheers where the constantined lift is. And it came down and opened up, and there's an all vintage lift and Luxeon climbs out and I was on the phone and had my legs crossed with rogues on and he gets out of the lift, pulls out his pocket handkerchief and starts polishing my shirts. Is funny. Yeah, you know a lot of people say, oh, it's greezing to the media, but it's not. He's being funny and he has that sense of humor. And it's a pity the public can't quite understand that there is a side of Luxen that's quite funny. But there's also a very serious side, and that's to clean up the mess that they inherited, and a mess they most certainly did inherit.

What do you think they need to concentrate on in the second year?

What do you think they need to concentrate on in the second year?

Oh, well, the second year is well. They've concentrated a lot on policy, which is very unusual for a government to enact so much policy in the first year. And they've given themselves a report card to work to every quarter, which I think is good because it stands the test of time.

Oh, well, the second year is well. They've concentrated a lot on policy, which is very unusual for a government to enact so much policy in the first year. And they've given themselves a report card to work to every quarter, which I think is good because it stands the test of time.

Some of those ministers had really done the work in opposition, so just picking up on them being able to roll.

Some of those ministers had really done the work in opposition, so just picking up on them being able to roll.

I mean, if you look at Eric Stanford, you know she'd done that week.

I mean, if you look at Eric Stanford, you know she'd done that week.

An old golden balls Simme and Brown. I mean this boy. I remember when I used to work out in the gym at Parliament and I had to see this boy in the changing room and think is he old enough to be at Parliament? And this wasn't that long ago and here he is now. He's got so many portfolios and I think, you know, for a young man, he does an extraordinarily good job across he is across it, across all what are fairly difficult portfolios, energy and what have you.

An old golden balls Simme and Brown. I mean this boy. I remember when I used to work out in the gym at Parliament and I had to see this boy in the changing room and think is he old enough to be at Parliament? And this wasn't that long ago and here he is now. He's got so many portfolios and I think, you know, for a young man, he does an extraordinarily good job across he is across it, across all what are fairly difficult portfolios, energy and what have you.

So second year then, so they have rolled it a lot more.

So second year then, so they have rolled it a lot more.

Well, now, aby've enacted a lot of work. Now now they've got to put it into practice next year, and that's that's always hard. I mean it's the old three year election cycle. Normally you'd see them settling into power in their first year, policy in the second year, winning an election on the third year. But with this government, it's been policy in their first year and now it's enacting it and seeing it work in the second year and then run for office. Although Chris Hipkins has been quoted as saying he'll be the Prime Minister after the next election and he's put a thousand bucks of his own money on it. Well, I'm sorry, Chris, I would think that thousands well and.

Well, now, aby've enacted a lot of work. Now now they've got to put it into practice next year, and that's that's always hard. I mean it's the old three year election cycle. Normally you'd see them settling into power in their first year, policy in the second year, winning an election on the third year. But with this government, it's been policy in their first year and now it's enacting it and seeing it work in the second year and then run for office. Although Chris Hipkins has been quoted as saying he'll be the Prime Minister after the next election and he's put a thousand bucks of his own money on it. Well, I'm sorry, Chris, I would think that thousands well and.

Truly lost interesting well, and then health is going to be a big issue. I mean, you know, even just with my farmer head on, and just think about the medicines.

Truly lost interesting well, and then health is going to be a big issue. I mean, you know, even just with my farmer head on, and just think about the medicines.

That are coming as well.

That are coming as well.

Look as we are certainly were seeing, you know, a lot of breakdown in the wider health system. But it airs just not an easy to interest.

Look as we are certainly were seeing, you know, a lot of breakdown in the wider health system. But it airs just not an easy to interest.

And it's even made harder when you had a Maori Health Authority there that they disbanded and the number of health boards around twenty what health boards they had that they had to disband them. I mean, this is and so then you have a glut of public servants pushing hens in the industry, and you know, having been a recipient of the public health service, these people work extraordinarily hard in hospitals. And when the story came out recently about having to speak English, the nurses and fifty percent of them basically are foreign trained and many many Indians work in the system. They are the most lovely people to be tended to. They do speak their own language, but when they speak to you, they do speak in English, although it's difficult to understand because many of them have face masks on, which makes it even more difficult. And there were a number of occasions they had to say to them very apologetically, look, I'm terribly sorry, I can't understand your accent. We turned it into a joke. And then they go and get somebody else that'll explain something to me, and that's you know, they get. They have a really hard time in health service. I think, and I think those of us who have been patients in it should show some more patience with the people that are trying to help.

And it's even made harder when you had a Maori Health Authority there that they disbanded and the number of health boards around twenty what health boards they had that they had to disband them. I mean, this is and so then you have a glut of public servants pushing hens in the industry, and you know, having been a recipient of the public health service, these people work extraordinarily hard in hospitals. And when the story came out recently about having to speak English, the nurses and fifty percent of them basically are foreign trained and many many Indians work in the system. They are the most lovely people to be tended to. They do speak their own language, but when they speak to you, they do speak in English, although it's difficult to understand because many of them have face masks on, which makes it even more difficult. And there were a number of occasions they had to say to them very apologetically, look, I'm terribly sorry, I can't understand your accent. We turned it into a joke. And then they go and get somebody else that'll explain something to me, and that's you know, they get. They have a really hard time in health service. I think, and I think those of us who have been patients in it should show some more patience with the people that are trying to help.

Them well and speak up for them, like you and certainly for me, it's a it's a major thank you, because the care that my own mother has had this year has just been extraordinary and such a wonderful, diverse and mixed workforce, but their care is just well, you see wayos nicely because we're going to actually take a short break now and then we're going to come back and talk about your health. Oh God, and you skip some people some advice, you know, as to how they can how they can look after themselves and what they have to do perhaps after they've had a bit of a major health skier. Welcome back in to ask me anything. Back with News Talk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper. So, Barr, it's been a big year for you, and just is it just over a year ago that you underwent the first heart surgery.

Them well and speak up for them, like you and certainly for me, it's a it's a major thank you, because the care that my own mother has had this year has just been extraordinary and such a wonderful, diverse and mixed workforce, but their care is just well, you see wayos nicely because we're going to actually take a short break now and then we're going to come back and talk about your health. Oh God, and you skip some people some advice, you know, as to how they can how they can look after themselves and what they have to do perhaps after they've had a bit of a major health skier. Welcome back in to ask me anything. Back with News Talk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper. So, Barr, it's been a big year for you, and just is it just over a year ago that you underwent the first heart surgery.

Yes, And if anyone had asked me prior to that whether I had a major health problem, I would have said no, really. And what happened was on the night that I discovered it, I was scheduled to go to Stephen Joyce's book launch and I had a message from the doctor's surgery saying can you call. So I called. I'd given a blood something.

Yes, And if anyone had asked me prior to that whether I had a major health problem, I would have said no, really. And what happened was on the night that I discovered it, I was scheduled to go to Stephen Joyce's book launch and I had a message from the doctor's surgery saying can you call. So I called. I'd given a blood something.

Because you'd been out walking and here puffing to.

Because you'd been out walking and here puffing to.

Coming up Franklin, Rhode. I was puffing a bit, yeah, pushing the old pushchair, and it was progressively getting where so Hit has said go to the doctor. I went to the doctor, got a blood test, and then when I rang the surgery of the book launch night, the doctor there Paula's She said to me, listen, we're disturbed about your blood showing and it's a dracone and I think it's called the level of much too high. And I went, Paula, can we talk about this tomorrow because I've got a function I've got to go to and she said, no, you're not going anywhere. You're going to hospital now. So I ended up in hospital.

Coming up Franklin, Rhode. I was puffing a bit, yeah, pushing the old pushchair, and it was progressively getting where so Hit has said go to the doctor. I went to the doctor, got a blood test, and then when I rang the surgery of the book launch night, the doctor there Paula's She said to me, listen, we're disturbed about your blood showing and it's a dracone and I think it's called the level of much too high. And I went, Paula, can we talk about this tomorrow because I've got a function I've got to go to and she said, no, you're not going anywhere. You're going to hospital now. So I ended up in hospital.

I didn't tell him she didn't have a heart attack.

I didn't tell him she didn't have a heart attack.

I no heart attack. No, my heart's as healthy as they Yeah, so I had. It was a major blockage. My aortic artery was blocked with calcium ninety blocked, so pretty massive. And I had two other vessels feeding the heart that were fairly blocked as well, so it was calcium. My cholesterol levels were always low, so I always thought I'm really healthy. I used to run a lot, and so I had no real indication other than never tight chest or anything, just a shortness of breath and that. When I went into hospital, they did some tests and stuff and had me hooked up to every every thing that you could possibly conceive of, and they let me out at about two in the morning and they said, you've got to go to a cardiologist. So I went to cardiologist and he said you probably need stints, and stints put in your arm and feed it into vein. And so I went into an angioplast and his head came around the corner of the curtain and said, mate, it's much more serious. I've always been so flamboyant about and I still am a bit. He said much more serious and I said what And he said, yeah, you're going to need open heart surgery. I've got big blockages. I went, oh, okay. Fortunately I had private medical insurance, and again for people that can't afford it, I understand because it's very expensive, and I often thought what's the point of having it, but it helped a lot. So I went into a private hospital here had my heart surgery. I was in on the Monday, and they wouldn't let me out of hospital when I had the injury. Bless They said, you can't at any time, because once the artery locks, that's it. So I went and had the operation. Felt really good.

I no heart attack. No, my heart's as healthy as they Yeah, so I had. It was a major blockage. My aortic artery was blocked with calcium ninety blocked, so pretty massive. And I had two other vessels feeding the heart that were fairly blocked as well, so it was calcium. My cholesterol levels were always low, so I always thought I'm really healthy. I used to run a lot, and so I had no real indication other than never tight chest or anything, just a shortness of breath and that. When I went into hospital, they did some tests and stuff and had me hooked up to every every thing that you could possibly conceive of, and they let me out at about two in the morning and they said, you've got to go to a cardiologist. So I went to cardiologist and he said you probably need stints, and stints put in your arm and feed it into vein. And so I went into an angioplast and his head came around the corner of the curtain and said, mate, it's much more serious. I've always been so flamboyant about and I still am a bit. He said much more serious and I said what And he said, yeah, you're going to need open heart surgery. I've got big blockages. I went, oh, okay. Fortunately I had private medical insurance, and again for people that can't afford it, I understand because it's very expensive, and I often thought what's the point of having it, but it helped a lot. So I went into a private hospital here had my heart surgery. I was in on the Monday, and they wouldn't let me out of hospital when I had the injury. Bless They said, you can't at any time, because once the artery locks, that's it. So I went and had the operation. Felt really good.

And it's that they cut your right down the yeah.

And it's that they cut your right down the yeah.

And I felt really good. But unfortunately I got up to go to the loo. I was feeling really good, took failures of my chest and I felt on top of the world. And that's what I had to say to anyone that has the surgery. You will you won't feel that bad, and don't worry about going into it. People do worry a lot, but it's not that bad. They can do anything with the heart these days. But unfortunately, on the way to the loo, mine stopped and so they rushed in and did CPR. So it broke everything. Progrims broke the chest bone. It broke everything, so you know, because to do it, you've got to bring something back. So they brought me back and I wasn't in a great shape, so they sort of. I was three months in hospital, to cut a long story, because I got infected by them doing the sea because they can't go out and sterilize their hands and it was a very sterile area, so it was a very Then it became very complicated and I had sex operations and.

And I felt really good. But unfortunately I got up to go to the loo. I was feeling really good, took failures of my chest and I felt on top of the world. And that's what I had to say to anyone that has the surgery. You will you won't feel that bad, and don't worry about going into it. People do worry a lot, but it's not that bad. They can do anything with the heart these days. But unfortunately, on the way to the loo, mine stopped and so they rushed in and did CPR. So it broke everything. Progrims broke the chest bone. It broke everything, so you know, because to do it, you've got to bring something back. So they brought me back and I wasn't in a great shape, so they sort of. I was three months in hospital, to cut a long story, because I got infected by them doing the sea because they can't go out and sterilize their hands and it was a very sterile area, so it was a very Then it became very complicated and I had sex operations and.

What else did they operate on.

What else did they operate on.

Oh, well, they have to get into the lungs. They had to do what they call a pectoral flat to heal the wound. That's to bring a peak across. They had a plastic surgeon and for that, so a lot of operations. And they said to me, because they always worry about you going under, so an aesthetic where he might lose your marbles is still cognitive. And they said to me, after one and I've been pretty deeply under and I came out and they said, who's the Prime Minister? And I went, just said, and they went the jaws dropped, and I said, just joking. I was fine. I never had the issue of the cognitive Their function was never effected. Fortunately, Also, some of your listeners may think it is. But so I'd say to anyone. And I've talked to, funnily enough, a number of people because they know I went through this and they are afraid coming into surgery. And I've talked to a number. I said, listen, don't worry. Honestly, don't worry about a thing because we have some of the best cardiac surgeons in the world at Auckland Hospital. Because I ended up in the public hospital after I had a relapse, and so it was it was an experience that I would never want to repeat. But three and three months in hospital was like being in prison, and I was, well, I haven't been in prison, but I assume it's like it. And for the last two months I was eating ice on the morning, ice at lunchtime, and ice at dinner. That's all I was allowed to eat two months, because they feed you intravenously, and it was awful. And I couldn't read. I couldn't listen to anything. So you were there almost in a vegetary.

Oh, well, they have to get into the lungs. They had to do what they call a pectoral flat to heal the wound. That's to bring a peak across. They had a plastic surgeon and for that, so a lot of operations. And they said to me, because they always worry about you going under, so an aesthetic where he might lose your marbles is still cognitive. And they said to me, after one and I've been pretty deeply under and I came out and they said, who's the Prime Minister? And I went, just said, and they went the jaws dropped, and I said, just joking. I was fine. I never had the issue of the cognitive Their function was never effected. Fortunately, Also, some of your listeners may think it is. But so I'd say to anyone. And I've talked to, funnily enough, a number of people because they know I went through this and they are afraid coming into surgery. And I've talked to a number. I said, listen, don't worry. Honestly, don't worry about a thing because we have some of the best cardiac surgeons in the world at Auckland Hospital. Because I ended up in the public hospital after I had a relapse, and so it was it was an experience that I would never want to repeat. But three and three months in hospital was like being in prison, and I was, well, I haven't been in prison, but I assume it's like it. And for the last two months I was eating ice on the morning, ice at lunchtime, and ice at dinner. That's all I was allowed to eat two months, because they feed you intravenously, and it was awful. And I couldn't read. I couldn't listen to anything. So you were there almost in a vegetary.

Couldn't you listen to anything?

Couldn't you listen to anything?

Well, because you've got people coming in all the time. You've got so many tubes. You can't move. Your whole room has to move. If you want to go to the loop, well you can't go to the loop, you just you know. That's the thing that I found, probably the hardest, was that I was so confined to a bed. I couldn't get out. So I was there, and then you.

Well, because you've got people coming in all the time. You've got so many tubes. You can't move. Your whole room has to move. If you want to go to the loop, well you can't go to the loop, you just you know. That's the thing that I found, probably the hardest, was that I was so confined to a bed. I couldn't get out. So I was there, and then you.

Have to learn to walk again, because muscle you.

Have to learn to walk again, because muscle you.

Do, you know. And I used to look at people. I'd see a window out my window and I watched people walking along the street, and I was thinking, they're so lucky they can walk, and of course then I had to learn to walk again.

Do, you know. And I used to look at people. I'd see a window out my window and I watched people walking along the street, and I was thinking, they're so lucky they can walk, and of course then I had to learn to walk again.

But now I'm fine, So just to step back. So if they if you'd had more symptoms and got in there earlier, do you think it wouldn't have been such an extreme operation.

But now I'm fine, So just to step back. So if they if you'd had more symptoms and got in there earlier, do you think it wouldn't have been such an extreme operation.

No, I think I think because I'd always gone for annual checkout, so I'm not I've often said to men in particular, that you know you check your car and for a check up every year, we should be checking your body in for a checkup as well. And funnily enough, the last one, I had a thorough one and you know, right down to the cegs and all that sort of stuff, and they mention a calcium build up, but they said it's natural for a maniversation. This is only about eighty months before everything happened.

No, I think I think because I'd always gone for annual checkout, so I'm not I've often said to men in particular, that you know you check your car and for a check up every year, we should be checking your body in for a checkup as well. And funnily enough, the last one, I had a thorough one and you know, right down to the cegs and all that sort of stuff, and they mention a calcium build up, but they said it's natural for a maniversation. This is only about eighty months before everything happened.

So you're only simped in then for someone that's out there listening, and that breathing was getting worse.

So you're only simped in then for someone that's out there listening, and that breathing was getting worse.

Breathe just and I'm an asthmatic, but it wasn't an asthma. Sort of short breath, my slightly light headed, and you know, when you're exerting yourself a bit, you're the lightheadedness. You don't. You don't want to fall over, but you feel dizzy and you the shortness of breath. You've got to stop and just take a bit of a rest.

Breathe just and I'm an asthmatic, but it wasn't an asthma. Sort of short breath, my slightly light headed, and you know, when you're exerting yourself a bit, you're the lightheadedness. You don't. You don't want to fall over, but you feel dizzy and you the shortness of breath. You've got to stop and just take a bit of a rest.

Carry on, all right, We're good to know because it's just got to look at the other classic symptoms.

Carry on, all right, We're good to know because it's just got to look at the other classic symptoms.

So how are you now when.

So how are you now when.

I was in hospital a week before last? Why pneumonia and both lungs?

I was in hospital a week before last? Why pneumonia and both lungs?

Goodness?

Goodness?

And is that just because from the illness a year ago.

And is that just because from the illness a year ago.

You're just gonna have to keep People have to think that, you know, once you have once you have complications like I had, other things can happen. And I've been in hospital three times this year. Okay, so the first time was with pneumonia. And pneumonia this is something else that people don't realize. It comes on very quickly. It happens within the space of half an hour. Suddenly you get the jitters, you you get higher fever, and then and you're not Your breathing is not too bad, but there's something definitely wrong. And the first time was pneumonia. And then the second time, we're on holiday in Fiji, which your father nights, and there was a slight festering of my scar. I thought, oh, this is weird. So my cardiologist had the pleasure of getting my holiday picks with those of my chest and I got back and when I got back, he said, you're coming straight into hospital. And I had my seventh operation, so they didn't open it fully, but they opened me up a bit. And that was in July.

You're just gonna have to keep People have to think that, you know, once you have once you have complications like I had, other things can happen. And I've been in hospital three times this year. Okay, so the first time was with pneumonia. And pneumonia this is something else that people don't realize. It comes on very quickly. It happens within the space of half an hour. Suddenly you get the jitters, you you get higher fever, and then and you're not Your breathing is not too bad, but there's something definitely wrong. And the first time was pneumonia. And then the second time, we're on holiday in Fiji, which your father nights, and there was a slight festering of my scar. I thought, oh, this is weird. So my cardiologist had the pleasure of getting my holiday picks with those of my chest and I got back and when I got back, he said, you're coming straight into hospital. And I had my seventh operation, so they didn't open it fully, but they opened me up a bit. And that was in July.

That was clean out yet get the gun cout.

That was clean out yet get the gun cout.

But then the residual is probably a week before last I was in hospital with pneumonia, with the double mneumonia. Yeah, double. But I'm you know, the stupid thing is that even though you look at all those and what's happened to me, I feel absolutely fine. And I'm fairly frivolous about health, because you know you've got to have it. But you know, everybody's got a diet some stage. And there's my brother who died in his forties of cancer. He said to me not long before he died, in fact, a few days before. He was driving me down to the airport and in the cargo and I said to him, he's only forty six, And I said, must be terrible, Lenny, facing the grim Reaper at your age. And he goes sucking on a cigarette, goes, mate, mate, I reckon being dead can be no worse than it was before you're alive. I thought, yeah, it's something to think on that kind of You know, we all die, you know, none of us can avoid it. Unfortunately, it's right, and none of us can avoid age, and you've just got to make the best of it.

But then the residual is probably a week before last I was in hospital with pneumonia, with the double mneumonia. Yeah, double. But I'm you know, the stupid thing is that even though you look at all those and what's happened to me, I feel absolutely fine. And I'm fairly frivolous about health, because you know you've got to have it. But you know, everybody's got a diet some stage. And there's my brother who died in his forties of cancer. He said to me not long before he died, in fact, a few days before. He was driving me down to the airport and in the cargo and I said to him, he's only forty six, And I said, must be terrible, Lenny, facing the grim Reaper at your age. And he goes sucking on a cigarette, goes, mate, mate, I reckon being dead can be no worse than it was before you're alive. I thought, yeah, it's something to think on that kind of You know, we all die, you know, none of us can avoid it. Unfortunately, it's right, and none of us can avoid age, and you've just got to make the best of it.

You can avoid age by dying earlier, you.

You can avoid age by dying earlier, you.

Guys, Absolutely true. I never thought I lost another brother at sixteen, so I'm aware of that.

Guys, Absolutely true. I never thought I lost another brother at sixteen, so I'm aware of that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so you've been in our house system then a lot, and I mean we touched on it before the break, but you know, just some amazing people working really hard. But men, we are seeing a system that's really creaking at the seams at the moment. I mean, what did you observe from the inside out?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's so you've been in our house system then a lot, and I mean we touched on it before the break, but you know, just some amazing people working really hard. But men, we are seeing a system that's really creaking at the seams at the moment. I mean, what did you observe from the inside out?

Well, I think the only thing that you really observe and you realize there's no point in getting cross is when you ring the bell for the nurse. You know, I've waited for half an hour before a nurse will front up, and if you wanted to go.

Well, I think the only thing that you really observe and you realize there's no point in getting cross is when you ring the bell for the nurse. You know, I've waited for half an hour before a nurse will front up, and if you wanted to go.

To the loo, it's a long time.

To the loo, it's a long time.

That's a long time to wait. And you know when I say to them, look, I've been ringing the bell for the last half an hour that busy, and I always have said to them, look, don't worry. It's yeah, not about you. I know, the system stretched. And I think that's the only noticeable thing that I felt being in hospital was getting attention when you really need it. And that was only for a p I mean, it wasn't anything that was more serious than that. If it was, then you'd have good cause for worrying that. Unfortunately for me, it.

That's a long time to wait. And you know when I say to them, look, I've been ringing the bell for the last half an hour that busy, and I always have said to them, look, don't worry. It's yeah, not about you. I know, the system stretched. And I think that's the only noticeable thing that I felt being in hospital was getting attention when you really need it. And that was only for a p I mean, it wasn't anything that was more serious than that. If it was, then you'd have good cause for worrying that. Unfortunately for me, it.

Was incredible people.

Was incredible people.

So has it changed the way you live? Has it changed your outlook on life?

So has it changed the way you live? Has it changed your outlook on life?

Not really, No, I still push Iggy on his six k walk that we go on around the waterfront, so not really, it hasn't. I gave up drinking for quite a long time. But you've got to you've got to be aware of your health. I think my wife doesn't think I'm nearly as aware as I should be of my health. Health. But I often said to her, well, look it's my health. I'm the one that's going to die, and I'm really aware of it.

Not really, No, I still push Iggy on his six k walk that we go on around the waterfront, so not really, it hasn't. I gave up drinking for quite a long time. But you've got to you've got to be aware of your health. I think my wife doesn't think I'm nearly as aware as I should be of my health. Health. But I often said to her, well, look it's my health. I'm the one that's going to die, and I'm really aware of it.

And I am, yeah, yeah, but well you know you've you've seen those symptoms of pneumonia and no, and you you've had to act.

And I am, yeah, yeah, but well you know you've you've seen those symptoms of pneumonia and no, and you you've had to act.

Yeah. But but she would argue with me it's too late, you leave it. But when I go into the hospital and ask them, they say, with pneumonia, it's very hard to get an early warning. You might be coughing up phlegm, which you do you do with a health and a chest infection anyway, But it's it's probably reading your health. And I'm you know, I'd admit it. I'm probably not the best at reading my own health. At the moment, I'm still numb across the chest, but other than that, I'm fine.

Yeah. But but she would argue with me it's too late, you leave it. But when I go into the hospital and ask them, they say, with pneumonia, it's very hard to get an early warning. You might be coughing up phlegm, which you do you do with a health and a chest infection anyway, But it's it's probably reading your health. And I'm you know, I'd admit it. I'm probably not the best at reading my own health. At the moment, I'm still numb across the chest, but other than that, I'm fine.

Yeah. In the advice segment, what is some of the best advice you've been given?

Yeah. In the advice segment, what is some of the best advice you've been given?

Goodness, gracious me, there's so much of it that.

Goodness, gracious me, there's so much of it that.

What about health wise?

What about health wise?

Yeah, we'll just you know, I mean, just be aware of your own health, be aware of your own limitations. Probably don't do too much. And everybody says I'd never take it easy enough, But I'm not the sort of person that sits around and feels morose.

Yeah, we'll just you know, I mean, just be aware of your own health, be aware of your own limitations. Probably don't do too much. And everybody says I'd never take it easy enough, But I'm not the sort of person that sits around and feels morose.

No, but you read it, you would read.

No, but you read it, you would read.

I read a lot and watched some of the Netflix series and always fun.

I read a lot and watched some of the Netflix series and always fun.

So okay, Well, it's called ask me anything, So this is that one little bit you get to ask me something. Though I feel like you've asked to me enough in my life.

So okay, Well, it's called ask me anything, So this is that one little bit you get to ask me something. Though I feel like you've asked to me enough in my life.

No, but I reckon, you've got to be honest about this. You're missing politics or do you think so? Ye see, it's got a thinking.

No, but I reckon, you've got to be honest about this. You're missing politics or do you think so? Ye see, it's got a thinking.

I'm trying to think whether I haven't, whether I do or not do?

I'm trying to think whether I haven't, whether I do or not do?

Because my net.

Because my net.

Miss the cut and thrust. That's what you loved in politics.

Miss the cut and thrust. That's what you loved in politics.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My next reaction is no, I don't.

My next reaction is no, I don't.

But but then as I was saying, I was there just yesterday and I did think. I've definitely got a bit of mongrel and me.

But but then as I was saying, I was there just yesterday and I did think. I've definitely got a bit of mongrel and me.

You've got to have, you know.

You've got to have, you know.

Yeah, yeah, so I did. I did like the cut and thrust.

Yeah, yeah, so I did. I did like the cut and thrust.

And it's nice.

And it's nice.

I suppose what I do miss was I do think it's something I was good at. So there's something you know, you do take pride in something that not everyone's good at.

I suppose what I do miss was I do think it's something I was good at. So there's something you know, you do take pride in something that not everyone's good at.

So that's tells the neuralty that you ol Wayne would love it.

So that's tells the neuralty that you ol Wayne would love it.

That sounds real.

That sounds real.

They would love a better competition.

They would love a better competition.

Not not God, no, imagine imagine that.

Not not God, no, imagine imagine that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, very thanks for coming back to chat. All the best for the baby coming out. I'm very excited because I like baby cuddles. If you want more from Barrie, you can catch them every afternoon with Heather or News Talk said b and that's it for another episode of Ask Me Anything. If you've enjoyed this episode, please follow me on Ask Me Anything on iHeartRadio where you get your podcast. Make sure you check out some of my past fabulous guests. Maybe you should go back and listen to Barry eighteen months ago and then you can sort of catch up again and you can double whamming of that one. I'll be back next Sunday, though, with another fabulous guest.

Well, very thanks for coming back to chat. All the best for the baby coming out. I'm very excited because I like baby cuddles. If you want more from Barrie, you can catch them every afternoon with Heather or News Talk said b and that's it for another episode of Ask Me Anything. If you've enjoyed this episode, please follow me on Ask Me Anything on iHeartRadio where you get your podcast. Make sure you check out some of my past fabulous guests. Maybe you should go back and listen to Barry eighteen months ago and then you can sort of catch up again and you can double whamming of that one. I'll be back next Sunday, though, with another fabulous guest.

I'm Paula Bennett. Ask Me Anything.

I'm Paula Bennett. Ask Me Anything.

Goodbye,

Goodbye,