In this summer bonus episode, Paula is joined by Amanda Luxon, wife of new PM Christopher, for an intimate chat about finding herself in the public eye, her 30 years of marriage, how they've made it work moving around the world, her thoughts on social media, the title 'First Lady', and people's obsession with her arms.

Barry Soper on the loneliness that comes with being prime minister
46:48

Paul Ego is going solo and pushing boundaries
35:00

Laura McGoldrick on parenting like her parents did
36:30