Welcome to the '5th Thing' with Amy & Kat!! This episode’s quote about working mom guilt led to a whole conversation about our responsibility to use our words wisely around kids because they are listening…whether it’s apologizing for working (which you don’t have to do) or speaking negatively about your body or expressing food guilt…if kids don’t hear us say it...they won’t have the need to apologize for such things when they are adults. Kat and Amy also talked about women apologizing too much in general…so let’s stop saying sorry if it’s not actually something we need to be sorry for! Other topics from today’s chat include an update on the kid Amy mentored over 10 years ago (a listener found him!!!), impacting others, the book Cultish and a new bonus episode that is coming soon called ‘The Walk Thing.’

Thank you licensed therapist, Kat Defatta, for joining us with her wisdom. You can find her on Instagram: @Kat.Defatta + @YouNeedTherapyPodcast.

Best places to find more about Amy: RadioAmy.com + @RadioAmy 

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