Today Nancy and Sheryl go deep into the disturbing case of two young Kansas mothers who were kidnapped, bludgeoned to death, and buried in a 10-foot pit on April 17th - the same day one of the victim's children had a birthday. The alleged mastermind is Tiffany Adams, the children's grandmother linked to the "God's Misfits" cult. Five people were arrested, including a man named Paul Grice who has confessed. 

Show Notes:
00:00 Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   
01:00 Paul Grice - fifth suspect in Oklahoma murders arrested and charged 
02:00 Watch Merit Plus for Free - https://www.meritplus.com/home
05:00 The 10-foot grave and evidence details 
13:00 M'Naghten rules - defense of insanity 

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram:@thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Today Nancy and Sheryl go deep into the disturbing case of two young Kansas mothers who were kidnapped, bludgeoned to death, and buried in a 10-foot pit on April 17th - the same day one of the victim's children had a birthday. The alleged mastermind is Tiffany Adams, the children's grandmother linked to the "God's Misfits" cult. Five people were arrested, including a man named Paul Grice who has confessed. 
Show Notes:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">00:00 Nancy and Sheryl introduce this week’s crime roundup   </li>
<li aria-level="1">01:00 Paul Grice - fifth suspect in Oklahoma murders arrested and charged </li>
<li aria-level="1">02:00 Watch Merit Plus for Free - <a href="https://www.meritplus.com/home">https://www.meritplus.com/home</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">05:00 The 10-foot grave and evidence details </li>
<li aria-level="1">13:00 M'Naghten rules - defense of insanity </li>
</ul>
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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 
In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - <a href="https://www.crimeonline.com/">https://www.crimeonline.com/</a>
Connect with Nancy: 
X:<a href="https://twitter.com/nancygrace?lang=en"> @nancygrace</a>
Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thenancygrace/?hl=en"> @thenancygrace</a>
Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceOfficial"> @nancygrace</a>
Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 
Connect with Sheryl:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
X:<a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/coldcasetips"> @ColdCaseTips</a>
Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/sheryl.mccollum/"> @sheryl.mccollum</a>

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!

Work a cold case alongside investigator Sheryl “Mac” McCollum, Director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute. Every week, Sheryl dives into her cold case files alongside accomplished guests to look for clues into unsolved murders, missing people, and more. This ain’t just a podcast but a war room. Sheryl opens her cold case files, her heart and her little black book! You will quickly realize Zone 7 is not a place but a lifestyle!

Zone 7 with Sheryl McCollum

4.26.24 CRU with Nancy Grace: Fifth God's Misfits Member Charged with Murdering Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley

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Chad Daybell is charged with the murders of 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow, Tylee Ryan, last seen when she was 16, and his previous wife Tammy Daybell, who died of asphyxiation the year before. Lori Vallow was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for her role in her children's deaths. She was convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder in the deaths of both children and received an additional 10-year prison sentence on a grand theft charge.

Guest Bio and Links:

Kirk Nurmi became infamous while serving as lead counsel for Jodi Arias. Today, as a former criminal defense attorney, he is thrilled that his legal career is a thing of the past. He has found a new level of joy working as a writer, speaker, and life coach whose new mission is to help others find a new level of joy.

Resources:

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with former criminal defense attorney, Kirk Nurmi about the unique perspectives of the American criminal justice system; specifically the death penalty. Kirk breaks down the complexities of a death penalty defense using the high-profile case of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell as a backdrop. They explore the legal and moral dilemmas faced by jurors and public defenders and the enduring challenges of a deeply polarizing topic. 

Could you look someone in the eye and say, ‘I think you should die’…?

Show Notes:
(0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.  
(1:00) Sheryl introduces guest, Kirk Nurmi to Zone 7
(5:45) Brief background of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow case 
(9:00) Death penalty considerations
(13:10) “We can talk about the death penalty, people can listen to it, but you think about that when, if you're in that jury box, And you're looking at that person, and you've kind of seen them for months, and you see their family, their family might be behind them, their kids, their spouse, etc. And you, as a juror, have to look at that person and say, I think you should die…”
(14:30) Mitigation and psychological profiling
(22:00) Process of death penalty 
(27:00) Factors that determine the death penalty being on the table 
(30:30) Polarization of the death penalty 
(32:00) The magnitude of a death penalty case 
(35:30) “I was personally opposed to the death penalty. And yet, I think I've probably asked for the death penalty more than most people in the United States.” -Janet Reno
Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum
Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

Chad Daybell is charged with the murders of 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow, Tylee Ryan, last seen when she was 16, and his previous wife Tammy Daybell, who died of asphyxiation the year before. Lori Vallow was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole for her role in her children's deaths. She was convicted of first-degree murder and conspiracy to commit murder in the deaths of both children and received an additional 10-year prison sentence on a grand theft charge.
Guest Bio and Links:
Kirk Nurmi became infamous while serving as lead counsel for Jodi Arias. Today, as a former criminal defense attorney, he is thrilled that his legal career is a thing of the past. He has found a new level of joy working as a writer, speaker, and life coach whose new mission is to help others find a new level of joy.
Resources:  
In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, talks with former criminal defense attorney, Kirk Nurmi about the unique perspectives of the American criminal justice system; specifically the death penalty. Kirk breaks down the complexities of a death penalty defense using the high-profile case of Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell as a backdrop. They explore the legal and moral dilemmas faced by jurors and public defenders and the enduring challenges of a deeply polarizing topic. 
Could you look someone in the eye and say, ‘I think you should die’…?
Show Notes:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">(0:00) Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum.  </li>
<li aria-level="1">(1:00) Sheryl introduces guest, Kirk Nurmi to Zone 7</li>
<li aria-level="1">(5:45) Brief background of Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow case </li>
<li aria-level="1">(9:00) Death penalty considerations</li>
<li aria-level="1">(13:10) “We can talk about the death penalty, people can listen to it, but you think about that when, if you're in that jury box, And you're looking at that person, and you've kind of seen them for months, and you see their family, their family might be behind them, their kids, their spouse, etc. And you, as a juror, have to look at that person and say, I think you should die…”</li>
<li aria-level="1">(14:30) Mitigation and psychological profiling</li>
<li aria-level="1">(22:00) Process of death penalty </li>
<li aria-level="1">(27:00) Factors that determine the death penalty being on the table </li>
<li aria-level="1">(30:30) Polarization of the death penalty </li>
<li aria-level="1">(32:00) The magnitude of a death penalty case </li>
<li aria-level="1">(35:30) “I was personally opposed to the death penalty. And yet, I think I've probably asked for the death penalty more than most people in the United States.” -Janet Reno</li>
<li aria-level="1">Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! </li>
</ul>
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  
Social Links:
<ul>
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Email: <a href="mailto:coldcase2004@gmail.com">coldcase2004@gmail.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Twitter: <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/coldcasetips">@ColdCaseTips</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/sheryl.mccollum/">@sheryl.mccollum</a></li>
</ul>
</ul>
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/officialzone7podcast/?img_index=1">@officialzone7podcast</a></li>
</ul>

To Execute or Not | The Financial, Moral, and Emotional Weight of the Death Penalty with Kirk Nurmi

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Sheryl McCollum and Nancy Grace dive into the Suzanne Morphew case, providing their insights and opinions on the evidence and potential suspects. Although Barry Morphew has not been named a suspect or person of interest, Nancy Grace explains why the evidence points towards him. The autopsy results revealed that Suzanne had been shot with animal tranquilizers, and a tranquilizer cap was found in the Morphew's dryer. Barry had initially suggested that Suzanne went out for a bike ride and was possibly eaten by a mountain lion, but this theory is highly unlikely. The investigation and legal proceedings are ongoing.

Today Nancy and Sheryl discuss these topics in today’s crime round-up:
Latest on Suzanne Morphew's disappearance - death has been determined a homicide 
New Jersey father Christopher Gregor is accused of killing his 6-year-old son Corey Micciolo

Show Notes:
[0:00] Welcome! Sheryl introduces this week’s crime roundup   
[0:30] The latest on Suzanne Morphew's disappearance  
[1:30] The mountain lion theory  
[5:30] Details of the crime scene in Suzanne’s home 
[10:00] Personal stories from Nancy
[14:00] Barry's lack of emotional reaction when Suzanne was missing
[15:00] Analyzing other evidence like Suzanne's clothes
[20:00] Lamenting failures to protect children from abusive situations
[20:30] Christopher Gregor to face murder charges after his six-year-old son died in 2021 from 'chronic abuse'

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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 

In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - https://www.crimeonline.com/

Connect with Nancy: 

X: @nancygrace

Instagram:@thenancygrace

Facebook: @nancygrace

Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 

Connect with Sheryl:

Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com

X: @ColdCaseTips

Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Sheryl McCollum and Nancy Grace dive into the Suzanne Morphew case, providing their insights and opinions on the evidence and potential suspects. Although Barry Morphew has not been named a suspect or person of interest, Nancy Grace explains why the evidence points towards him. The autopsy results revealed that Suzanne had been shot with animal tranquilizers, and a tranquilizer cap was found in the Morphew's dryer. Barry had initially suggested that Suzanne went out for a bike ride and was possibly eaten by a mountain lion, but this theory is highly unlikely. The investigation and legal proceedings are ongoing.
Today Nancy and Sheryl discuss these topics in today’s crime round-up:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Latest on Suzanne Morphew's disappearance - death has been determined a homicide </li>
<li aria-level="1">New Jersey father Christopher Gregor is accused of killing his 6-year-old son Corey Micciolo</li>
</ul>
Show Notes:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">[0:00] Welcome! Sheryl introduces this week’s crime roundup   </li>
<li aria-level="1">[0:30] The latest on Suzanne Morphew's disappearance  </li>
<li aria-level="1">[1:30] The mountain lion theory  </li>
<li aria-level="1">[5:30] Details of the crime scene in Suzanne’s home </li>
<li aria-level="1">[10:00] Personal stories from Nancy</li>
<li aria-level="1">[14:00] Barry's lack of emotional reaction when Suzanne was missing</li>
<li aria-level="1">[15:00] Analyzing other evidence like Suzanne's clothes</li>
<li aria-level="1">[20:00] Lamenting failures to protect children from abusive situations</li>
<li aria-level="1">[20:30] Christopher Gregor to face murder charges after his six-year-old son died in 2021 from 'chronic abuse'</li>
</ul>
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Nancy Grace is an outspoken, tireless advocate for victims’ rights and one of television's most respected legal analysts. Nancy Grace had a perfect conviction record during her decade as a prosecutor. She is the founder and publisher of CrimeOnline.com, a crime- fighting digital platform that investigates breaking crime news, spreads awareness of missing people and shines a light on cold cases. 
In addition, Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a daily show hosted by Grace, airs on SIRIUS XM’s Triumph Channel 111 and is downloadable as a podcast on all audio platforms - <a href="https://www.crimeonline.com/">https://www.crimeonline.com/</a>
Connect with Nancy: 
X:<a href="https://twitter.com/nancygrace?lang=en"> @nancygrace</a>
Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/thenancygrace/?hl=en"> @thenancygrace</a>
Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceOfficial"> @nancygrace</a>
Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. 
Connect with Sheryl:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
X:<a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/coldcasetips"> @ColdCaseTips</a>
Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/sheryl.mccollum/"> @sheryl.mccollum</a>

5.3.24 CRU with Nancy Grace: Suzanne Morphew's Death Ruled A Homicide

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Karen Read, 43, of Mansfield, is accused of second-degree murder and other charges. The prosecution says she hit her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, with her vehicle outside of a home in Canton during a snowstorm on Jan. 29, 2022, following a night of drinking. She has pleaded not guilty.

Guest Bio and Links:

Joshua Schiffer is an attorney providing legal services covering Criminal Defense, Personal Injury. Listeners can learn more about Joshua Schiffer at his website: https://chancoschiffer.com/

In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with defense attorney, Joshua Schiffer to discuss the latest on the Karen Read trial. Together, they dissect  the mysterious death of Officer John O'Keefe, featuring detailed discussions on the legal, interpersonal, and investigative angles that make this case a puzzler for law enforcement and the community of Canton, Massachusetts.

Show Notes:
[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  
[0:30] Sheryl welcomes back defense attourney, Joshual Schiffer to the show
[0:45] Joshua gives a background of the Karen Read and Joshual O’Keefe case 
[3:00] Details of the incident night
[7:00] The puzzling cause of death
[14:30] Examination of legal implications and potential defenses in the case
[26:00] The Feds, the local police and many unanswered questions
[32:00] Community reaction and media coverage
[44:30] “The death car, as the newspapers called it,  didn't stop.  It came out of the gathering darkness, wavered tragically for a moment,  and then disappeared around the next bend.”  -F.S.F
Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! 

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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  

Social Links:
Email: coldcase2004@gmail.com
Twitter: @ColdCaseTips
Facebook: @sheryl.mccollum

Instagram: @officialzone7podcast

Karen Read, 43, of Mansfield, is accused of second-degree murder and other charges. The prosecution says she hit her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O'Keefe, with her vehicle outside of a home in Canton during a snowstorm on Jan. 29, 2022, following a night of drinking. She has pleaded not guilty.
Guest Bio and Links:
Joshua Schiffer is an attorney providing legal services covering Criminal Defense, Personal Injury. Listeners can learn more about Joshua Schiffer at his website: <a href="https://chancoschiffer.com/">https://chancoschiffer.com/</a>   
In this episode of Zone 7, Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum, sits down with defense attorney, Joshua Schiffer to discuss the latest on the Karen Read trial. Together, they dissect  the mysterious death of Officer John O'Keefe, featuring detailed discussions on the legal, interpersonal, and investigative angles that make this case a puzzler for law enforcement and the community of Canton, Massachusetts.
Show Notes:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">[0:00] Welcome back to Zone 7 with Crime Scene Investigator, Sheryl McCollum  </li>
<li aria-level="1">[0:30] Sheryl welcomes back defense attourney, Joshual Schiffer to the show</li>
<li aria-level="1">[0:45] Joshua gives a background of the Karen Read and Joshual O’Keefe case </li>
<li aria-level="1">[3:00] Details of the incident night</li>
<li aria-level="1">[7:00] The puzzling cause of death</li>
<li aria-level="1">[14:30] Examination of legal implications and potential defenses in the case</li>
<li aria-level="1">[26:00] The Feds, the local police and many unanswered questions</li>
<li aria-level="1">[32:00] Community reaction and media coverage</li>
<li aria-level="1">[44:30] “The death car, as the newspapers called it,  didn't stop.  It came out of the gathering darkness, wavered tragically for a moment,  and then disappeared around the next bend.”  -F.S.F</li>
<li aria-level="1">Thanks for listening to another episode! If you’re loving the show and want to help grow the show, please head over to Itunes and leave a rating and review! </li>
</ul>
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Sheryl “Mac” McCollum is an Emmy Award winning CSI, a writer for CrimeOnLine, Forensic and Crime Scene Expert for Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, and a CSI for a metro Atlanta Police Department. She is the co-author of the textbook., Cold Case: Pathways to Justice. Sheryl is also the founder and director of the Cold Case Investigative Research Institute, a collaboration between universities and colleges that brings researchers, practitioners, students and the criminal justice community together to advance techniques in solving cold cases and assist families and law enforcement with solvability factors for unsolved homicides, missing persons, and kidnapping cases.  
Social Links:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Email: <a href="mailto:coldcase2004@gmail.com">coldcase2004@gmail.com</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Twitter: <a href="https://mobile.twitter.com/coldcasetips">@ColdCaseTips</a></li>
<li aria-level="1">Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/sheryl.mccollum/">@sheryl.mccollum</a></li>
</ul>
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/officialzone7podcast/?img_index=1">@officialzone7podcast</a>

The Karen Read Murder Trial: Killer or Cover Up Murder with Joshua Schiffer

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4.26.24 CRU with Nancy Grace: Fifth God's Misfits Member Charged with Murdering Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley

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