Earlier this month, tech billionaire Bill Gates broke ground on a new nuclear plant in Kemmerer, Wyoming– a historic coal town. Gates tells Zero why he hopes the plant, which uses sodium for cooling, rather than water, will be the first of many in the country– no matter who wins this year’s election. “The idea of the US being more energy secure and US innovation allowing us to export, those things are still somewhat bipartisan in nature,” he says. Plus, he weighs in on AI as both a major generator of emissions and as a potential source of climate solutions.

Explore further:

• Past episode with BNEF’s Claire Curry on how energy startups can dodge the valley of death
• Past episode with Brookfield Asset Management CCEO Connor Teskey on making renewables a profitable bet
• Past episode with Bill Gates on the significance of the Inflation Reduction Act

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