In this interview, Kamau Bell opens by giving flowers to Dominique Morgan for being an unapologetic Black trans woman educator and advocate on social media. Morgan explains her approach: showing people how to learn without "looking like a doggone fool" and expanding themselves without burdening others. She emphasizes that relationships are "disruptors" necessary for meaningful engagement, comparing asking questions without established connection to asking a neighbor you've never spoken to for sugar.

 

Morgan discusses her authentic social media presence (bonnet sometimes on, sometimes off) as intentional resistance to pressures on Black trans women to appear a certain way, which has built genuine community specifically with Black women. She previously worked as CEO of Black and Pink, the largest prison abolitionist organization centering LGBTQ+ incarcerated individuals.

 

Morgan recounts her incarceration from ages 18-27, including 18 months in solitary confinement, six months on death row due to overcrowding, and how this experience, combined with her parents' deaths before she turned 27, paradoxically prepared her for her 2020 transition. She shares meeting John Lotter (killer of Brandon Teena) in solitary, later receiving thanks from him through her Black and Pink work, and dedicating a healing room to Brandon Teena, illustrating her philosophy that "no one should be known by the worst thing they've ever done".

 

Morgan details her 2024-2025 legal case: after being let go from Okra Project in August 2022, she was indicted in October 2024, spent two years fighting charges related to allegedly untracked bail support funds, and ultimately chose to serve 30 days on Rikers starting April 2025 rather than continue an exhausting battle where her story risked becoming politicized, taking her power back while gaining clarity on her purpose.

 

She distinguishes empathy from radical compassion learned through Stanford's program, which defines compassion as "bearing witness" without requiring immediate action. This has informed her approach to current events, including the killing of Nolan Wells and systemic oppression.

 

Morgan emphasizes the need to see Black trans women as individuals, not monoliths, noting that transition doesn't automatically mature someone emotionally: "Estrogen doesn't make you have... Showtime synergy."

 

Follow Dominique Morgan on Substack at https://thedominiquemorgan.substack.com/ 

 

Donate to Black and Pink at blackandpink.org, The Maryland Safe Haven (Formerly Baltimore Safe Haven) at baltimoresafehaven.org, and Sister Song at sistersong.net.

 

Watch The Okra Project's response to the legal situation mentioned in the show at https://youtu.be/0dsOx6pfcA8?si=W1MOGGFjw3ZMYa6h and read the Them.us article at https://www.them.us/story/okra-project-nonprofit-video-dominique-morgan-allegations?shem=aimgspe . 

 

Check out Mahogany Mommies and check out their shirts at mahoganymommies.com. Use code WKB for a discount.

 

Buy the 2027 We Gather calendar by artist Jen Bloomer that features Kamau at radicistudios.com. Use WKamauBell10 to get 10% off.

 

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

In this interview, Kamau Bell opens by giving flowers to Dominique Morgan for being an unapologetic Black trans woman educator and advocate on social media. Morgan explains her approach: showing people how to learn without "looking like a doggone fool" and expanding themselves without burdening others. She emphasizes that relationships are "disruptors" necessary for meaningful engagement, comparing asking questions without established connection to asking a neighbor you've never spoken to for sugar.
&nbsp;
Morgan discusses her authentic social media presence (bonnet sometimes on, sometimes off) as intentional resistance to pressures on Black trans women to appear a certain way, which has built genuine community specifically with Black women. She previously worked as CEO of Black and Pink, the largest prison abolitionist organization centering LGBTQ+ incarcerated individuals.
&nbsp;
Morgan recounts her incarceration from ages 18-27, including 18 months in solitary confinement, six months on death row due to overcrowding, and how this experience, combined with her parents' deaths before she turned 27, paradoxically prepared her for her 2020 transition. She shares meeting John Lotter (killer of Brandon Teena) in solitary, later receiving thanks from him through her Black and Pink work, and dedicating a healing room to Brandon Teena, illustrating her philosophy that "no one should be known by the worst thing they've ever done".
&nbsp;
Morgan details her 2024-2025 legal case: after being let go from Okra Project in August 2022, she was indicted in October 2024, spent two years fighting charges related to allegedly untracked bail support funds, and ultimately chose to serve 30 days on Rikers starting April 2025 rather than continue an exhausting battle where her story risked becoming politicized, taking her power back while gaining clarity on her purpose.
&nbsp;
She distinguishes empathy from radical compassion learned through Stanford's program, which defines compassion as "bearing witness" without requiring immediate action. This has informed her approach to current events, including the killing of Nolan Wells and systemic oppression.
&nbsp;
Morgan emphasizes the need to see Black trans women as individuals, not monoliths, noting that transition doesn't automatically mature someone emotionally: "Estrogen doesn't make you have... Showtime synergy."
&nbsp;
Follow Dominique Morgan on Substack at <a href="https://thedominiquemorgan.substack.com/">https://thedominiquemorgan.substack.com/</a>&nbsp;
&nbsp;
Donate to Black and Pink at <a href="http://blackandpink.org">blackandpink.org</a>, The Maryland Safe Haven (Formerly Baltimore Safe Haven) at <a href="http://baltimoresafehaven.org">baltimoresafehaven.org</a>, and Sister Song at <a href="http://sistersong.net">sistersong.net</a>.
&nbsp;
Watch The Okra Project's response to the legal situation mentioned in the show at <a href="https://youtu.be/0dsOx6pfcA8?si=W1MOGGFjw3ZMYa6h">https://youtu.be/0dsOx6pfcA8?si=W1MOGGFjw3ZMYa6h</a> and read the Them.us article at <a href="https://www.them.us/story/okra-project-nonprofit-video-dominique-morgan-allegations?shem=aimgspe">https://www.them.us/story/okra-project-nonprofit-video-dominique-morgan-allegations?shem=aimgspe</a> .&nbsp;
&nbsp;
Check out Mahogany Mommies and check out their shirts at <a href="http://mahoganymommies.com">mahoganymommies.com</a>. Use code WKB for a discount.
&nbsp;
Buy the 2027 We Gather calendar by artist Jen Bloomer that features Kamau at <a href="http://radicistudios.com">radicistudios.com</a>. Use WKamauBell10 to get 10% off.
&nbsp;
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Dominique Morgan on Black Trans Womanhood

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Kamau opens his interview with Joy Reid by praising how well she’s done since moving on from corporate journalism, building out her own independent show, merchandise line, and even anti-Trump gear. Reid shares that she was actually let go from MSNBC on her day off, attributing the decision to friction over her coverage of Donald Trump and Israel-Palestine, which made it harder for the network to normalize a second Trump term. She explains that her pro-Palestine stance goes back to her parents’ experiences with colonialism and her father’s life in apartheid South Africa, emphasizing that supporting Palestinian rights and standing against antisemitism aren’t mutually exclusive.

 

Their conversation turns to how Black women are treated in media and politics, with Reid reflecting on Kamala Harris’s 2024 campaign loss to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist as a particularly painful moment. While Reid wrestles with whether misogyny or racism played a bigger role in Harris’s defeat, Bell notes that Obama winning while Hillary Clinton lost highlights how gender can still outweigh race in presidential politics. Reid cautions against taking a free and fair election in 2028 for granted, pointing to Trump’s reluctance to back JD Vance and broader warning signs for democracy.

 

Reid also calls out mainstream political journalism for treating crucial issues like horse-race sports coverage and normalizing dangerous rhetoric. She contrasts today’s reporters with Woodward and Bernstein’s real-time Watergate reporting, pointing out that holding key revelations for book deals, as Bob Woodward did with Trump’s early COVID admissions, costs actual lives. She recalls realizing in February 2020 that COVID was airborne while her show was pushed to focus entirely on impeachment, calling it a major media failure.

 

Looking ahead to the midterms, Reid expects Republicans to challenge any losses in court and anticipates voter intimidation at polling places, but sees a real opening for Democrats as economic pressure and foreign policy missteps mount. Her advice to Democrats if they win: use power aggressively by pushing Medicare for All, ending foreign wars, and holding Trump allies accountable.

 

Reid opens up about her immigrant roots: her mother was from Guyana and her father from the Congo, identifying as both African American and a product of the broader diaspora, while navigating the nuances between those identities. She also addresses past controversies, including her decision to give a friend airtime to apologize after using an on-air slur against Hakeem Jeffries, defending her choice despite the blowback.

 

Closing on a personal note, Reid gives a nod to the American Cancer Society, honoring her mother, who passed away from metastatic breast cancer.

 

After, Kamau chats with Rep. Angie Nixon about her race for the Florida Senate, how she's not afraid to stand up against Republicans intent on bringing our country back to the Jim Crow South, and why it's imperative to go out and vote in the upcoming midterms.

 

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Kamau opens his interview with Joy Reid by praising how well she&rsquo;s done since moving on from corporate journalism, building out her own independent show, merchandise line, and even anti-Trump gear. Reid shares that she was actually let go from MSNBC on her day off, attributing the decision to friction over her coverage of Donald Trump and Israel-Palestine, which made it harder for the network to normalize a second Trump term. She explains that her pro-Palestine stance goes back to her parents&rsquo; experiences with colonialism and her father&rsquo;s life in apartheid South Africa, emphasizing that supporting Palestinian rights and standing against antisemitism aren&rsquo;t mutually exclusive.
&nbsp;
Their conversation turns to how Black women are treated in media and politics, with Reid reflecting on Kamala Harris&rsquo;s 2024 campaign loss to a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist as a particularly painful moment. While Reid wrestles with whether misogyny or racism played a bigger role in Harris&rsquo;s defeat, Bell notes that Obama winning while Hillary Clinton lost highlights how gender can still outweigh race in presidential politics. Reid cautions against taking a free and fair election in 2028 for granted, pointing to Trump&rsquo;s reluctance to back JD Vance and broader warning signs for democracy.
&nbsp;
Reid also calls out mainstream political journalism for treating crucial issues like horse-race sports coverage and normalizing dangerous rhetoric. She contrasts today&rsquo;s reporters with Woodward and Bernstein&rsquo;s real-time Watergate reporting, pointing out that holding key revelations for book deals, as Bob Woodward did with Trump&rsquo;s early COVID admissions, costs actual lives. She recalls realizing in February 2020 that COVID was airborne while her show was pushed to focus entirely on impeachment, calling it a major media failure.
&nbsp;
Looking ahead to the midterms, Reid expects Republicans to challenge any losses in court and anticipates voter intimidation at polling places, but sees a real opening for Democrats as economic pressure and foreign policy missteps mount. Her advice to Democrats if they win: use power aggressively by pushing Medicare for All, ending foreign wars, and holding Trump allies accountable.
&nbsp;
Reid opens up about her immigrant roots: her mother was from Guyana and her father from the Congo, identifying as both African American and a product of the broader diaspora, while navigating the nuances between those identities. She also addresses past controversies, including her decision to give a friend airtime to apologize after using an on-air slur against Hakeem Jeffries, defending her choice despite the blowback.
&nbsp;
Closing on a personal note, Reid gives a nod to the American Cancer Society, honoring her mother, who passed away from metastatic breast cancer.
&nbsp;
After, Kamau chats with Rep. Angie Nixon about her race for the Florida Senate, how she's not afraid to stand up against Republicans intent on bringing our country back to the Jim Crow South, and why it's imperative to go out and vote in the upcoming midterms.
&nbsp;
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Joy Reid and Angie Nixon on Politics, Media, and Black Womanhood

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/4460bbb5-2069-4136-b09c-b4f1001bdd8f/transcript

W. Kamau Bell welcomes soccer legend Megan Rapinoe for a wide-ranging conversation reflecting on her storied career, personal growth, and ongoing activism. The discussion begins with Rapinoe explaining her characteristic approach to taking action first and navigating consequences later, noting that having "the right kind of people not in my corner and the right kind of people in my corner" validates her choices.

The topic turns to Rapinoe's passionate defense of transgender women in sports, where she directly confronts the "lack of basic humanity and empathy" in current discourse. She dismantles fairness arguments by pointing out that "sports is not fair in any sort of way ever" and emphasizes that athletic competition cannot supersede human rights.

Rapinoe traces her activism roots to her mother's early lessons about using one's platform responsibly, despite growing up in conservative Redding, California—a "predominantly white, really conservative" environment where her parents modeled egalitarian values.

The interview explores her public breakup with Sue Bird, which the couple chose to announce gracefully to provide "a good ending" rarely seen with celebrity couples.

She describes being good at sports as "a spiritual experience" involving profound "alignment of purpose", while acknowledging the difficult transition into retirement, including accepting that "there isn't another feeling" that can replicate championship performance.

Rapinoe expresses dismay at continued homophobia in men's sports and the "level of silence and cowardice" among powerful figures who could speak out without sacrifice. She closes by urging political engagement: "Politics is going to interact with you whether you interact with it or not", before confirming that she is, in fact, with Kamau. 

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

W. Kamau Bell welcomes soccer legend Megan Rapinoe for a wide-ranging conversation reflecting on her storied career, personal growth, and ongoing activism. The discussion begins with Rapinoe explaining her characteristic approach to taking action first and navigating consequences later, noting that having "the right kind of people not in my corner and the right kind of people in my corner" validates her choices.
The topic turns to Rapinoe's passionate defense of transgender women in sports, where she directly confronts the "lack of basic humanity and empathy" in current discourse. She dismantles fairness arguments by pointing out that "sports is not fair in any sort of way ever" and emphasizes that athletic competition cannot supersede human rights.
Rapinoe traces her activism roots to her mother's early lessons about using one's platform responsibly, despite growing up in conservative Redding, California&mdash;a "predominantly white, really conservative" environment where her parents modeled egalitarian values.
The interview explores her public breakup with Sue Bird, which the couple chose to announce gracefully to provide "a good ending" rarely seen with celebrity couples.
She describes being good at sports as "a spiritual experience" involving profound "alignment of purpose", while acknowledging the difficult transition into retirement, including accepting that "there isn't another feeling" that can replicate championship performance.
Rapinoe expresses dismay at continued homophobia in men's sports and the "level of silence and cowardice" among powerful figures who could speak out without sacrifice. She closes by urging political engagement: "Politics is going to interact with you whether you interact with it or not", before confirming that she is, in fact, with Kamau.&nbsp;
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Megan Rapinoe on Showing Up for Human Rights

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This week’s episode with Colin Kaepernick was recorded live at Marcus Books in Oakland, California. Kamau opens by thanking Kaepernick for his book, The Perilous Fight, which reached #1 on the New York Times bestseller list.

The conversation turns to Kaepernick's 2016 protest. Kamau reads Kaepernick's famous quote about refusing to stand for the flag of a country that oppresses Black people. Kaepernick explains that this statement came from years of study and reading, rather than a pre-planned remark. He credits reporter Steve Wyche for handling the story thoughtfully: pulling him aside privately rather than pressing him in public, warning him of the potential fallout, and seeking permission before publishing.

They address a widely circulated misconception that veteran Nate Boyer convinced Kaepernick to kneel. Kaepernick clarifies that teammate Eric Reid proposed kneeling as a way to maintain a respectful posture while continuing the protest. The 49ers then arranged a meeting with Boyer, who initially agreed to kneel alongside them but backed out at the last minute, citing his oath, choosing to stand beside them instead. Kaepernick describes Boyer's subsequent actions as opportunistic: misrepresenting the story, profiting off T-shirts featuring Kaepernick alongside an MLK quote, excluding Reid, and leveraging the moment into movie roles. Rather than correct the record publicly at the time, Kaepernick and Reid chose to keep the focus on the underlying issue.

The discussion shifts to Kaepernick's upbringing in Turlock, California, a predominantly white town, where he was raised by adoptive white parents. He describes constantly facing questions about his background and appearance, finding solidarity with other non-white peers, and lacking Black mentors to guide him on cultural matters and hair care. Though his parents were loving, their emphasis on assimilation created tension around his style, hair, music, and culture. He found inspiration in Black athletes who succeeded while staying themselves unapologetically. Figures like Allen Iverson, Randy Moss, and Ken Griffey Jr.

When discussing his racial identity, Kaepernick states simply, "I'm Black," dismissing debates over racial categorization as divisive tactics meant to fragment the community.

Kamau brings up Jay-Z's partnership with the NFL. Kaepernick explains that after trying to reach Jay-Z to collaborate, Jay-Z only called him the day before his official NFL press conference. Kaepernick pushed back strongly, accusing Jay-Z of "selling the culture out to a bunch of racists." He contextualizes this decision by pointing to a 2017 NFL owners' meeting where Panthers owner Terry Pegula explicitly advocated for finding "a Black face" to help end the protests, comparing the strategy to the NRA using Charlton Heston.

Kaepernick details the work of the Know Your Rights Camp, which he launched following the 2015 killing of Mario Woods. Originally focused on legal rights education, the initiative has expanded to encompass holistic community support, including funding free second autopsies in cases of police custody deaths, providing legal defense for 2020 protesters, and distributing PPE, rent relief, and grants to Black-owned businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Reflecting on his status as a cultural icon, Kaepernick hopes people who wear his jersey translate symbolic support into tangible action, emphasizing the life-and-death stakes behind the movement.

He concludes with a lighthearted story about his four-year-old daughter challenging him at the dinner table, giving a glimpse into "what I'm going to be navigating for the rest of my life.”.

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

This week&rsquo;s episode with Colin Kaepernick was recorded live at Marcus Books in Oakland, California. Kamau opens by thanking Kaepernick for his book, The Perilous Fight, which reached #1 on the New York Times bestseller list.
The conversation turns to Kaepernick's 2016 protest. Kamau reads Kaepernick's famous quote about refusing to stand for the flag of a country that oppresses Black people. Kaepernick explains that this statement came from years of study and reading, rather than a pre-planned remark. He credits reporter Steve Wyche for handling the story thoughtfully: pulling him aside privately rather than pressing him in public, warning him of the potential fallout, and seeking permission before publishing.
They address a widely circulated misconception that veteran Nate Boyer convinced Kaepernick to kneel. Kaepernick clarifies that teammate Eric Reid proposed kneeling as a way to maintain a respectful posture while continuing the protest. The 49ers then arranged a meeting with Boyer, who initially agreed to kneel alongside them but backed out at the last minute, citing his oath, choosing to stand beside them instead. Kaepernick describes Boyer's subsequent actions as opportunistic: misrepresenting the story, profiting off T-shirts featuring Kaepernick alongside an MLK quote, excluding Reid, and leveraging the moment into movie roles. Rather than correct the record publicly at the time, Kaepernick and Reid chose to keep the focus on the underlying issue.
The discussion shifts to Kaepernick's upbringing in Turlock, California, a predominantly white town, where he was raised by adoptive white parents. He describes constantly facing questions about his background and appearance, finding solidarity with other non-white peers, and lacking Black mentors to guide him on cultural matters and hair care. Though his parents were loving, their emphasis on assimilation created tension around his style, hair, music, and culture. He found inspiration in Black athletes who succeeded while staying themselves unapologetically. Figures like Allen Iverson, Randy Moss, and Ken Griffey Jr.
When discussing his racial identity, Kaepernick states simply, "I'm Black," dismissing debates over racial categorization as divisive tactics meant to fragment the community.
Kamau brings up Jay-Z's partnership with the NFL. Kaepernick explains that after trying to reach Jay-Z to collaborate, Jay-Z only called him the day before his official NFL press conference. Kaepernick pushed back strongly, accusing Jay-Z of "selling the culture out to a bunch of racists." He contextualizes this decision by pointing to a 2017 NFL owners' meeting where Panthers owner Terry Pegula explicitly advocated for finding "a Black face" to help end the protests, comparing the strategy to the NRA using Charlton Heston.
Kaepernick details the work of the Know Your Rights Camp, which he launched following the 2015 killing of Mario Woods. Originally focused on legal rights education, the initiative has expanded to encompass holistic community support, including funding free second autopsies in cases of police custody deaths, providing legal defense for 2020 protesters, and distributing PPE, rent relief, and grants to Black-owned businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic.
Reflecting on his status as a cultural icon, Kaepernick hopes people who wear his jersey translate symbolic support into tangible action, emphasizing the life-and-death stakes behind the movement.
He concludes with a lighthearted story about his four-year-old daughter challenging him at the dinner table, giving a glimpse into "what I'm going to be navigating for the rest of my life.&rdquo;.
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Colin Kaepernick on Never Backing Down

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The podcast opens with Kamau giving Rafael his flowers. Rafael, who has lived in LA for seven years, insists he still identifies Berkeley and Oakland as home, describing his time in LA as an extended work trip.

 

The conversation moves into Rafael's background in the Bay Area youth poetry scene, where he competed in the National Poetry Slam and earned a reputation. Around season three of Def Poetry Jam, producers sought out younger voices and brought Rafael on at age 18. He describes being a nervous, skinny kid staring at the ground on stage, having never memorized a poem before. He was one of the first people to convert his clip from VHS and upload it to YouTube, where it reached a million views, a rare feat at the time. He then toured colleges for a decade off that single clip.

 

During this period, Rafael and his childhood friends opened a recording studio in a North Oakland warehouse, where he first began collaborating with Daveed Diggs. He later took a role as creative director of a poetry scholarship program at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he also worked toward a degree, finishing four credits shy of completion.

 

The interview touches on Rafael's identity as a white Latino, the complexity of Hispanic racial identity, and the importance of honest self-placement within conversations about race and representation in Hollywood.

 

The conversation closes with Rafael discussing his commitment to the Bay Area community, including efforts around the Oakland film incentive, the Baylist initiative connecting Bay Area media makers, and a call for investment in local film infrastructure. He reflects on the importance of mentorship and passing permission to younger artists, citing an encounter with Jim Carrey as a defining moment of validation.

 

Donate to #Makeitbay at https://makeitbay.org and to Youth Speaks at https://youthspeaks.org

 

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

The podcast opens with Kamau giving Rafael his flowers. Rafael, who has lived in LA for seven years, insists he still identifies Berkeley and Oakland as home, describing his time in LA as an extended work trip.
&nbsp;
The conversation moves into Rafael's background in the Bay Area youth poetry scene, where he competed in the National Poetry Slam and earned a reputation. Around season three of Def Poetry Jam, producers sought out younger voices and brought Rafael on at age 18. He describes being a nervous, skinny kid staring at the ground on stage, having never memorized a poem before. He was one of the first people to convert his clip from VHS and upload it to YouTube, where it reached a million views, a rare feat at the time. He then toured colleges for a decade off that single clip.
&nbsp;
During this period, Rafael and his childhood friends opened a recording studio in a North Oakland warehouse, where he first began collaborating with Daveed Diggs. He later took a role as creative director of a poetry scholarship program at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, where he also worked toward a degree, finishing four credits shy of completion.
&nbsp;
The interview touches on Rafael's identity as a white Latino, the complexity of Hispanic racial identity, and the importance of honest self-placement within conversations about race and representation in Hollywood.
&nbsp;
The conversation closes with Rafael discussing his commitment to the Bay Area community, including efforts around the Oakland film incentive, the Baylist initiative connecting Bay Area media makers, and a call for investment in local film infrastructure. He reflects on the importance of mentorship and passing permission to younger artists, citing an encounter with Jim Carrey as a defining moment of validation.
&nbsp;
Donate to #Makeitbay at <a href="https://makeitbay.org">https://makeitbay.org</a> and to Youth Speaks at <a href="https://youthspeaks.org">https://youthspeaks.org</a>
&nbsp;
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Rafael Casal on Building Something Real

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We’re sharing an episode of No Such Thing, a show where Manny Fidel, Devan Joseph and Noah Freidman—three best friends and journalists—argue about stuff, like friends do, but instead of just yelling at each other on the internet, they actually go find out the answer In this episode, they dive into the reading crisis in America. They speak with children’s author Jason Reynolds, professor Paul Thomas, and public school teacher Kelsey Clodfelter to answer: are kids no longer reading? And if so, why does it matter?

Listen to No Such Thing On Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every Wednesday. 

We&rsquo;re sharing an episode of No Such Thing, a show where Manny Fidel, Devan Joseph and Noah Freidman&mdash;three best friends and journalists&mdash;argue about stuff, like friends do, but instead of just yelling at each other on the internet, they actually go find out the answer In this episode, they dive into the reading crisis in America. They speak with children&rsquo;s author Jason Reynolds, professor Paul Thomas, and public school teacher Kelsey Clodfelter to answer: are kids no longer reading? And if so, why does it matter?
Listen to No Such Thing On <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-such-thing/id1780210954">Apple Podcasts</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6YUGwMg2wKn8fTw8D480Wn">Spotify</a> or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes drop every Wednesday.&nbsp;

Kids can’t read anymore. Does it matter? | From No Such Thing 

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The interview starts with Kamau giving Don Lemon his flowers. The two reflect on their shared history at CNN, with Bell recalling that Lemon consistently welcomed and supported newer talent at the network. Lemon pushes back on claims made after his departure that he was difficult to work with.

The conversation shifts to Lemon's post-CNN career and his commitment to field reporting. Lemon explains that he has always been a reporter at heart and that getting out into the streets is essential to understanding public sentiment, citing his early read that Trump would win in both 2016 and 2024.

Discussion turns to Trump's potential interest in a third term, with both agreeing he should be taken seriously given his track record of delivering on policy promises, while noting his failure to lower the cost of living. They also raise concerns about Trump treating the White House as personal property and his apparent contempt for judicial authority.

The topic moves to CNN, Politico, and MSNBC being removed from the White House press pool. Lemon argues this is the result of corporate media bending to political pressure for financial gain, and calls for journalists to collectively refuse participation in briefings that compromise press freedom.

Lemon then discusses his arrest in Minneapolis, describing it as an ongoing legal case characterized by deliberate delays. He also highlights fellow journalist Georgia Fort, who was arrested at the same time, noting she deserves equal recognition.

The conversation broadens to the evolution of journalism, from a one-way broadcast model to the social media era, with Lemon stressing the importance of media literacy. Topics then covered include the Chris Brown and Jasmine Crockett controversy, the Israel-Gaza conflict and the debate over the word "genocide", and the role of independent journalism.

Lemon closes by endorsing the Committee to Protect Journalists as a cause worth supporting. You can do so at https://cpj.org

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

The interview starts with Kamau giving Don Lemon his flowers. The two reflect on their shared history at CNN, with Bell recalling that Lemon consistently welcomed and supported newer talent at the network. Lemon pushes back on claims made after his departure that he was difficult to work with.
The conversation shifts to Lemon's post-CNN career and his commitment to field reporting. Lemon explains that he has always been a reporter at heart and that getting out into the streets is essential to understanding public sentiment, citing his early read that Trump would win in both 2016 and 2024.
Discussion turns to Trump's potential interest in a third term, with both agreeing he should be taken seriously given his track record of delivering on policy promises, while noting his failure to lower the cost of living. They also raise concerns about Trump treating the White House as personal property and his apparent contempt for judicial authority.
The topic moves to CNN, Politico, and MSNBC being removed from the White House press pool. Lemon argues this is the result of corporate media bending to political pressure for financial gain, and calls for journalists to collectively refuse participation in briefings that compromise press freedom.
Lemon then discusses his arrest in Minneapolis, describing it as an ongoing legal case characterized by deliberate delays. He also highlights fellow journalist Georgia Fort, who was arrested at the same time, noting she deserves equal recognition.
The conversation broadens to the evolution of journalism, from a one-way broadcast model to the social media era, with Lemon stressing the importance of media literacy. Topics then covered include the Chris Brown and Jasmine Crockett controversy, the Israel-Gaza conflict and the debate over the word "genocide", and the role of independent journalism.
Lemon closes by endorsing the Committee to Protect Journalists as a cause worth supporting. You can do so at <a href="https://cpj.org">https://cpj.org</a>
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Don Lemon on Holding Power Accountable

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The interview opens with Kamau giving flowers to fellow documentary filmmaker Bao Nguyen and praising the breadth and quality of his work. Kamau recounts first meeting Bao through the Bruce Lee documentary "Be Water," then being surprised by the announcement of "The Greatest Night in Pop", which he attended with Tom Morello. Kamau was also excited and a bit jealous upon learning Bao was making a Jimi Hendrix documentary.

The conversation turns to Bao's filmmaking philosophy, particularly his serious approach to cinematography, rooted in his background as a photographer. Both discuss the collaborative nature of working with cinematographers and the deliberate visual choices made in each film.

They then discuss "The Stringer" in depth, a film investigating the true authorship of the iconic "Napalm Girl" photograph from the Vietnam War. Bao reflects on the challenge of disrupting a celebrated narrative within the Vietnamese American community, acknowledging a generational divide over whether to confront or leave such histories undisturbed.

Discussion moves to "The Greatest Night in Pop," covering the making of "We Are the World." Bao explains his initial skepticism about the song's corniness, but a chance encounter with a Vietnamese taxi driver playing it convinced him of its universal resonance. He framed the film as a heist story rather than a standard music documentary. Notably, Sheila E's candid account of feeling sidelined during the recording session highlights Bao's commitment to honesty.

The interview closes with a discussion of "BTS: The Return," a fly-on-the-wall film that follows BTS as they record an album after military service. He recommends documentaries including "Stop Making Sense," "Minding the Gap," "Hoop Dreams," "Shirkers," and "Mistress Dispeller".

Donate to the IRC at  help.rescue.org and Boat People SOS at bpsos-cca.org 

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

The interview opens with Kamau giving flowers to fellow documentary filmmaker Bao Nguyen and praising the breadth and quality of his work. Kamau recounts first meeting Bao through the Bruce Lee documentary "Be Water," then being surprised by the announcement of "The Greatest Night in Pop", which he attended with Tom Morello. Kamau was also excited and a bit jealous upon learning Bao was making a Jimi Hendrix documentary.
The conversation turns to Bao's filmmaking philosophy, particularly his serious approach to cinematography, rooted in his background as a photographer. Both discuss the collaborative nature of working with cinematographers and the deliberate visual choices made in each film.
They then discuss "The Stringer" in depth, a film investigating the true authorship of the iconic "Napalm Girl" photograph from the Vietnam War. Bao reflects on the challenge of disrupting a celebrated narrative within the Vietnamese American community, acknowledging a generational divide over whether to confront or leave such histories undisturbed.
Discussion moves to "The Greatest Night in Pop," covering the making of "We Are the World." Bao explains his initial skepticism about the song's corniness, but a chance encounter with a Vietnamese taxi driver playing it convinced him of its universal resonance. He framed the film as a heist story rather than a standard music documentary. Notably, Sheila E's candid account of feeling sidelined during the recording session highlights Bao's commitment to honesty.
The interview closes with a discussion of "BTS: The Return," a fly-on-the-wall film that follows BTS as they record an album after military service. He recommends documentaries including "Stop Making Sense," "Minding the Gap," "Hoop Dreams," "Shirkers," and "Mistress Dispeller".
Donate to the IRC at&nbsp; <a href="http://help.rescue.org">help.rescue.org</a> and Boat People SOS at <a href="http://bpsos-cca.org">bpsos-cca.org</a>&nbsp;
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Bao Nguyen on Making Every Frame Matter

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Kamau kicks off the episode by reconnecting with comedian and writer Guy Branum, noting they haven't seen each other in person in a while but keep up via social media. Kamau gives Branum his flowers and recalls their time working together on Totally Biased. Kamau praises Branum for refusing to be sidelined in the entertainment industry despite having a law degree and facing industry bias against gay and larger performers.

The conversation turns to Branum's solo show, "Be Fruitful," which explores his place in the world as a gay man who will never "be fruitful and multiply." Branum discusses taking the show to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and the ongoing work of refining it. Bell shares advice about performing at Edinburgh, including the importance of acknowledging local culture for the audience.

They discuss Branum's social media series "Old Gays Remember," which grew out of filming standup clips in West Hollywood, and touch on the changing diversity of writers' rooms in Hollywood since 2020.

The episode gets more serious when Branum addresses his public criticism of the film "The Whale" for its portrayal of fatness, and his broader experience of being overlooked for roles despite fitting the exact description required. Branum also shares nuanced views on the Israel-Palestine conflict as a Jewish man, emphasizing complexity over simplistic positions.

The episode lightens again with a discussion of Branum's appearance on regular Jeopardy after 20 years of taking the test.

Donate to Lambda Legal at lambdalegal.org, the ACLU at aclu.org, Teens of Color Abroad at teensofcolorabroad.org, and to Black Voters Matter at blackvotersmatterfund.org.

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Kamau kicks off the episode by reconnecting with comedian and writer Guy Branum, noting they haven't seen each other in person in a while but keep up via social media. Kamau gives Branum his flowers and recalls their time working together on Totally Biased. Kamau praises Branum for refusing to be sidelined in the entertainment industry despite having a law degree and facing industry bias against gay and larger performers.
The conversation turns to Branum's solo show, "Be Fruitful," which explores his place in the world as a gay man who will never "be fruitful and multiply." Branum discusses taking the show to the Edinburgh Fringe Festival, and the ongoing work of refining it. Bell shares advice about performing at Edinburgh, including the importance of acknowledging local culture for the audience.
They discuss Branum's social media series "Old Gays Remember," which grew out of filming standup clips in West Hollywood, and touch on the changing diversity of writers' rooms in Hollywood since 2020.
The episode gets more serious when Branum addresses his public criticism of the film "The Whale" for its portrayal of fatness, and his broader experience of being overlooked for roles despite fitting the exact description required. Branum also shares nuanced views on the Israel-Palestine conflict as a Jewish man, emphasizing complexity over simplistic positions.
The episode lightens again with a discussion of Branum's appearance on regular Jeopardy after 20 years of taking the test.
Donate to Lambda Legal at <a href="http://lambdalegal.org">lambdalegal.org</a>, the ACLU at <a href="http://aclu.org">aclu.org</a>, Teens of Color Abroad at <a href="http://teensofcolorabroad.org">teensofcolorabroad.org</a>, and to Black Voters Matter at <a href="http://blackvotersmatterfund.org">blackvotersmatterfund.org</a>.
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Guy Branum on Being Unapologetic 

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The interview opens with Kamau welcoming Ken Jennings and reflecting on how they first met at a Seattle Bumbershoot festival through comedian Doug Benson's podcast. They bond over the classic era of Twitter, agreeing that their generation of Gen Xers had one social media platform they tolerated before it deteriorated.

Kamau shares his admiration for Jennings as a Jeopardy! host, recalling how smooth and natural Jennings appeared when Bell appeared on Celebrity Jeopardy!. The two discuss how Jeopardy! built itself around Trebek over decades, and Jennings admits he was skeptical the show would survive after Trebek's passing.

Jennings describes the difficult circumstances of stepping into the hosting role, explaining that he was originally scheduled to guest host while Trebek underwent cancer treatment, only to receive a call the morning he was due to rehearse informing him that Trebek had died overnight. Jennings felt compelled to continue because crew members told him he reminded them of Trebek.

The conversation turns to Jeopardy!'s cultural significance, its loyal multigenerational audience, and its role as a rare steady long-term job in show business. Jennings discusses his hosting philosophy of receding into the background, following Trebek's ethos that the show should be about the players and clues.

The interview then addresses Jennings speaking out politically on issues including immigration enforcement, trans rights, and reproductive rights, with Jennings framing this as a matter of personal conviction rooted in his Latter-day Saints upbringing.

Donate to World Central Kitchen at wck.org and support Scarecrow Video at scarecrowvideo.org. Support families in Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan at  anera.org. Donate to immigration relief at alotrolado.org.

Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

The interview opens with Kamau welcoming Ken Jennings and reflecting on how they first met at a Seattle Bumbershoot festival through comedian Doug Benson's podcast. They bond over the classic era of Twitter, agreeing that their generation of Gen Xers had one social media platform they tolerated before it deteriorated.
Kamau shares his admiration for Jennings as a Jeopardy! host, recalling how smooth and natural Jennings appeared when Bell appeared on Celebrity Jeopardy!. The two discuss how Jeopardy! built itself around Trebek over decades, and Jennings admits he was skeptical the show would survive after Trebek's passing.
Jennings describes the difficult circumstances of stepping into the hosting role, explaining that he was originally scheduled to guest host while Trebek underwent cancer treatment, only to receive a call the morning he was due to rehearse informing him that Trebek had died overnight. Jennings felt compelled to continue because crew members told him he reminded them of Trebek.
The conversation turns to Jeopardy!'s cultural significance, its loyal multigenerational audience, and its role as a rare steady long-term job in show business. Jennings discusses his hosting philosophy of receding into the background, following Trebek's ethos that the show should be about the players and clues.
The interview then addresses Jennings speaking out politically on issues including immigration enforcement, trans rights, and reproductive rights, with Jennings framing this as a matter of personal conviction rooted in his Latter-day Saints upbringing.
Donate to World Central Kitchen at <a href="http://wck.org">wck.org</a> and support Scarecrow Video at <a href="http://scarecrowvideo.org">scarecrowvideo.org</a>. Support families in Palestine, Lebanon, and Jordan at&nbsp; <a href="http://anera.org">anera.org</a>. Donate to immigration relief at <a href="http://alotrolado.org">alotrolado.org</a>.
Who's With Me is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Music by Chris Dowd. Distributed by Pushkin Industries.

Ken Jennings on Carrying the Jeopardy! Legacy

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Kamau Bell is known for embracing uncomfortable conversations that acknowledge differences, confront embarrassment, and change people’s perspectives. Throughout his career, Kamau has talked with everyone from KKK members to Oprah Winfrey to strangers on the streets. Each time, Kamau fills these conversations with humor, heart, and intellect, showing that a simple conversation can lead to surprising revelations and spark change, one person at a time.

Kamau brings all that and more to his new weekly podcast, Who’s With Me? Inspired by Kamau’s popular Substack newsletter of the same name, Who’s With Me? is more than just a simple question. It is an invitation to connect, a call to action, and a reassuring pat on the shoulder in these increasingly hectic times. 

In every episode, Kamau addresses what has caught his attention in the current cultural or political landscape. He also sits down with someone he admires deeply—a time for Kamau to give them their flowers, ask his most burning questions, and invite his guest to give him and his audience homework on how to make the world a better place. Kamau will talk to celebrities, his fellow comedians, his fellow Oaklanders, activists, and sometimes he will talk to someone like Daveed Diggs, who is all of that in one body. So… who’s with Kamau? New episodes every Wednesday. 

Kamau Bell is known for embracing uncomfortable conversations that acknowledge differences, confront embarrassment, and change people&rsquo;s perspectives. Throughout his career, Kamau has talked with everyone from KKK members to Oprah Winfrey to strangers on the streets. Each time, Kamau fills these conversations with humor, heart, and intellect, showing that a simple conversation can lead to surprising revelations and spark change, one person at a time.
Kamau brings all that and more to his new weekly podcast,&nbsp;Who&rsquo;s With Me? Inspired by Kamau&rsquo;s popular Substack newsletter of the same name, Who&rsquo;s With Me? is more than just a simple question. It is an invitation to connect, a call to action, and a reassuring pat on the shoulder in these increasingly hectic times.&nbsp;
In every episode, Kamau addresses what has caught his attention in the current cultural or political landscape. He also sits down with someone he admires deeply&mdash;a time for Kamau to give them their flowers, ask his most burning questions, and invite his guest to give him and his audience homework on how to make the world a better place. Kamau will talk to celebrities, his fellow comedians, his fellow Oaklanders, activists, and sometimes he will talk to someone like Daveed Diggs, who is all of that in one body. So&hellip; who&rsquo;s with Kamau? New episodes every Wednesday.&nbsp;

Who's with Me? with W. Kamau Bell

Who’s With Me? is more than just a simple question. It is an invitation to connect, a call to action, and a reassuring pat on the shoulder in these increasingly hectic times. Every Wednesday, stand-up comedian W. Kamau Bell sits down with someone he admires deeply to give them their flowers, ask his most burning questions, and invite his guest to give him and his audience homework on how to make the world a better place.

W. Kamau Bell is a Peabody Award winner, 4X Emmy Award winner, documentary filmmaker, Celebrity Jeopardy! champion, Official Ambassador of the band Fishbone, self-proclaimed #1 Bruce Lee Expert (non-Asian division), part-time activist, and full-time family man. Kamau is also known for his CNN docuseries United Shades of America, his four-part docuseries We Need To Talk About Cosby, and for scrawling “HAHA!” over his enemies’ faces on his Instagram account.

Who&rsquo;s With Me? is more than just a simple question. It is an invitation to connect, a call to action, and a reassuring pat on the shoulder in these increasingly hectic times. Every Wednesday, stand-up comedian W. Kamau Bell sits down with someone he admires deeply to give them their flowers, ask his most burning questions, and invite his guest to give him and his audience homework on how to make the world a better place.
W. Kamau Bell is a Peabody Award winner, 4X Emmy Award winner, documentary filmmaker, Celebrity Jeopardy! champion, Official Ambassador of the band Fishbone, self-proclaimed #1 Bruce Lee Expert (non-Asian division), part-time activist, and full-time family man. Kamau is also known for his CNN docuseries United Shades of America, his four-part docuseries We Need To Talk About Cosby, and for scrawling &ldquo;HAHA!&rdquo; over his enemies&rsquo; faces on his Instagram account.

Who's with Me? with W. Kamau Bell

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