Molly answers your weird little questions and shares her personal conspiracy theory about who tried and failed to assassinate a nazi in 1967.

Sources:

Donald Horton and Richard Wohl, 'Mass Communication and Parasocial Interaction:
Observations on Intimacy at a Distance', Psychiatry 19: 215-29, 1956
https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf

Nadora, Mikhaela, "Parasocial Relationships with Podcast Hosts" (2019). University Honors Theses. Paper 771.
https://doi.org/10.15760/honors.789

Molly answers your weird little questions and shares her personal conspiracy theory about who tried and failed to assassinate a nazi in 1967.
Sources:
Donald Horton and Richard Wohl, 'Mass Communication and Parasocial Interaction: Observations on Intimacy at a Distance', Psychiatry 19: 215-29, 1956 <a href="https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf">https://www.participations.org/03-01-04-horton.pdf</a>
Nadora, Mikhaela, "Parasocial Relationships with Podcast Hosts" (2019). University Honors Theses. Paper 771. <a href="https://doi.org/10.15760/honors.789">https://doi.org/10.15760/honors.789</a>

Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off. 

Weird Little Guys is a weekly show about the worst people you’ve never heard of, taking you beyond the headlines to get to know the race warriors and aspiring terrorists trying to unravel the fabric of our society. Weaving together the origin stories of modern American white supremacist groups and the crimes that land their members in court, independent journalist Molly Conger exposes the monsters for what they really are - some weird guy. Whether they’re conspiring to build bombs or serving swastika shaped cookies at a dinner party, the weird little guys trying to destroy America are a little less scary with their masks off.

Investigative journalist Molly Conger takes you beyond the headlines to examine some of the worst people on the planet, most of whom you’ve never heard of. These are the weird little guys trying to ruin life as we know it.

Weird Little Guys

Weird Little Guys 2025 Q&A

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In 2017, a man showed up at the emergency room and confessed that he'd accidentally poisoned himself with homemade ricin. He was federally charged with possessing a biological agent, but his case was dismissed on almost unbelievable technicality. But he's not the only man who thinks he can create the perfect weapon from nothing but a handful of beans.

Original Air Date: 7.31.25

Sources:

https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/ajc-watchdog-north-man-arrested-for-ricin-radicalized-online/wdxws9G7zMmaUDmm22njYK/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-perfect-poison-ricin-used-in-3-recent-cases/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17023504/united-states-v-jordan/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6378803/united-states-v-siers-hill/

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6293428/united-states-v-gibbs/

Melissa Abbes, Marc Montana, Christophe Curti, Patrice Vanelle. Ricin poisoning: A review on contamination source, diagnosis, treatment, prevention and reporting of ricin poisoning. Toxicon, Volume 195, 2021

Tucker, Jonathan B. “Dilemmas of a Dual-Use Technology: Toxins in Medicine and Warfare.” Politics and the Life Sciences, vol. 13, no. 1, 1994, pp. 51–62

Bergen, Peter, et al. “Key Trends in Terrorism.” Terrorism in America 18 Years After 9/11, New America, 2019, pp. 45–50

Leo J. Schep, Wayne A. Temple, Grant A. Butt, Michael D. Beasley. Ricin as a weapon of mass terror — Separating fact from fiction. Environment International, Volume 35, Issue 8, 2009

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/ricin-terrorism-plot-sentencing.html

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/cfr

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/uscode

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/744

https://thebulletin.org/2013/06/barely-lethal/

https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6020875&page=1

https://slate.com/technology/2012/01/white-powder-hoaxes-a-trend-in-fake-terrorism.html

https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/usaopress/2002/txdv02091.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-49434687

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/22/woman-poison-plot-mother-breaking-bad-court

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breaking-bad-inspired-georgetown-student-charged-ricin

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34288380

USAMRIID’s MEDICAL MANAGEMENT OF BIOLOGICAL CASUALTIES HANDBOOK, Ninth Edition
https://usamriid.health.mil/assets/docs/training/USAMRIIDs_Blue_Book_9th_edition_PDF_format.pdf

In 2017, a man showed up at the emergency room and confessed that he'd accidentally poisoned himself with homemade ricin. He was federally charged with possessing a biological agent, but his case was dismissed on almost unbelievable technicality. But he's not the only man who thinks he can create the perfect weapon from nothing but a handful of beans.
Original Air Date: 7.31.25 Sources: <a href="https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/ajc-watchdog-north-man-arrested-for-ricin-radicalized-online/wdxws9G7zMmaUDmm22njYK/">https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional/ajc-watchdog-north-man-arrested-for-ricin-radicalized-online/wdxws9G7zMmaUDmm22njYK/</a> <a href="https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-perfect-poison-ricin-used-in-3-recent-cases/">https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-perfect-poison-ricin-used-in-3-recent-cases/</a> <a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17023504/united-states-v-jordan/">https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17023504/united-states-v-jordan/</a> <a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6378803/united-states-v-siers-hill/">https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6378803/united-states-v-siers-hill/</a> <a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6293428/united-states-v-gibbs/">https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/6293428/united-states-v-gibbs/</a> Melissa Abbes, Marc Montana, Christophe Curti, Patrice Vanelle. Ricin poisoning: A review on contamination source, diagnosis, treatment, prevention and reporting of ricin poisoning. Toxicon, Volume 195, 2021 Tucker, Jonathan B. &ldquo;Dilemmas of a Dual-Use Technology: Toxins in Medicine and Warfare.&rdquo; Politics and the Life Sciences, vol. 13, no. 1, 1994, pp. 51&ndash;62 Bergen, Peter, et al. &ldquo;Key Trends in Terrorism.&rdquo; Terrorism in America 18 Years After 9/11, New America, 2019, pp. 45&ndash;50 Leo J. Schep, Wayne A. Temple, Grant A. Butt, Michael D. Beasley. Ricin as a weapon of mass terror &mdash; Separating fact from fiction. Environment International, Volume 35, Issue 8, 2009 <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/ricin-terrorism-plot-sentencing.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/15/us/ricin-terrorism-plot-sentencing.html</a> <a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/cfr">https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/cfr</a> <a href="https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/uscode">https://www.govinfo.gov/app/collection/uscode</a> <a href="https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/744">https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/744</a> <a href="https://thebulletin.org/2013/06/barely-lethal/">https://thebulletin.org/2013/06/barely-lethal/</a> <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6020875&amp;page=1">https://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=6020875&amp;page=1</a> <a href="https://slate.com/technology/2012/01/white-powder-hoaxes-a-trend-in-fake-terrorism.html">https://slate.com/technology/2012/01/white-powder-hoaxes-a-trend-in-fake-terrorism.html</a> <a href="https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/usaopress/2002/txdv02091.html">https://www.justice.gov/archive/tax/usaopress/2002/txdv02091.html</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-49434687">https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-devon-49434687</a> <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/22/woman-poison-plot-mother-breaking-bad-court">https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/sep/22/woman-poison-plot-mother-breaking-bad-court</a> <a href="https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breaking-bad-inspired-georgetown-student-charged-ricin">https://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/breaking-bad-inspired-georgetown-student-charged-ricin</a> <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34288380">https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-34288380</a> USAMRIID&rsquo;s MEDICAL MANAGEMENT OF BIOLOGICAL CASUALTIES HANDBOOK, Ninth Edition <a href="https://usamriid.health.mil/assets/docs/training/USAMRIIDs_Blue_Book_9th_edition_PDF_format.pdf">https://usamriid.health.mil/assets/docs/training/USAMRIIDs_Blue_Book_9th_edition_PDF_format.pdf</a>

CZM Rewind: Magic Beans

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In 2007, a white nationalist known for his addiction to causing drama claimed he saw Ron Paul at a nazi supper club. Ron Paul supporters, including those on nazi message boards, pushed back. The feud that ensued led to Curtis Maynard's fall from grace as a holocaust denial blogger - he'd been keeping a secret from his readers.

Sources:

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/ron-pauls-new-organization-reportedly-stacked-extremists/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jan/16/guiltbyassociation

https://web.archive.org/web/20071226150527/themedium.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/the-ron-paul-vid-lash/

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/pageoneplus/corrections.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20071221222229/http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28341_Neo-Nazis_Say-_Ron_Paul_is_One_of_Us&only

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/local/sarasota/2018/10/01/alleged-white-nationalist-peter-gemma-resigns-from-sarasota-gop-executive-committee/9732609007/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/04/07/for-holocaust-denier-theres-no-telling/057d4471-7668-4bf2-ba59-6e7f9666bb18/

http://new.wymaninstitute.org/2004/12/former-senior-aide-to-pat-buchanan-spoke-at-holocaust-deniers-meeting/

https://www.mediamatters.org/white-nationalism/white-nationalist-writer-peter-gemma-resigns-sarasota-gop-executive-committee


https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/conservativism-and-foreign-policy/182250


https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/world/americas/21iht-hate.4.17140643.html 

https://roanoke.com/news/local/nazi-leader-bill-white----in-his-own-words/article_7e5c7e03-bdcf-5542-a6be-0433ba2d7aee.html 

https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/assault-gets-even-ugliercontroversy-escalates-over-sexual-violence-campus/ 

In 2007, a white nationalist known for his addiction to causing drama claimed he saw Ron Paul at a nazi supper club. Ron Paul supporters, including those on nazi message boards, pushed back. The feud that ensued led to Curtis Maynard's fall from grace as a holocaust denial blogger - he'd been keeping a secret from his readers. Sources: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/26/us/politics/ron-paul-disowns-extremists-views-but-doesnt-disavow-the-support.html</a>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/ron-pauls-new-organization-reportedly-stacked-extremists/">https://www.splcenter.org/resources/hate-watch/ron-pauls-new-organization-reportedly-stacked-extremists/</a>
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jan/16/guiltbyassociation">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2008/jan/16/guiltbyassociation</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071226150527/themedium.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/the-ron-paul-vid-lash/">https://web.archive.org/web/20071226150527/themedium.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/24/the-ron-paul-vid-lash/</a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/pageoneplus/corrections.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/27/pageoneplus/corrections.html</a>
<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20071221222229/http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28341_Neo-Nazis_Say-_Ron_Paul_is_One_of_Us&amp;only">https://web.archive.org/web/20071221222229/http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=28341_Neo-Nazis_Say-_Ron_Paul_is_One_of_Us&amp;only</a>
<a href="https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/local/sarasota/2018/10/01/alleged-white-nationalist-peter-gemma-resigns-from-sarasota-gop-executive-committee/9732609007/">https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/local/sarasota/2018/10/01/alleged-white-nationalist-peter-gemma-resigns-from-sarasota-gop-executive-committee/9732609007/</a>
<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/04/07/for-holocaust-denier-theres-no-telling/057d4471-7668-4bf2-ba59-6e7f9666bb18/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/2005/04/07/for-holocaust-denier-theres-no-telling/057d4471-7668-4bf2-ba59-6e7f9666bb18/</a>
<a href="http://new.wymaninstitute.org/2004/12/former-senior-aide-to-pat-buchanan-spoke-at-holocaust-deniers-meeting/">http://new.wymaninstitute.org/2004/12/former-senior-aide-to-pat-buchanan-spoke-at-holocaust-deniers-meeting/</a>
<a href="https://www.mediamatters.org/white-nationalism/white-nationalist-writer-peter-gemma-resigns-sarasota-gop-executive-committee">https://www.mediamatters.org/white-nationalism/white-nationalist-writer-peter-gemma-resigns-sarasota-gop-executive-committee</a> <a href="https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/conservativism-and-foreign-policy/182250"></a>
<a href="https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/conservativism-and-foreign-policy/182250">https://www.c-span.org/program/public-affairs-event/conservativism-and-foreign-policy/182250</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/world/americas/21iht-hate.4.17140643.html"></a>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/world/americas/21iht-hate.4.17140643.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/21/world/americas/21iht-hate.4.17140643.html</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://roanoke.com/news/local/nazi-leader-bill-white----in-his-own-words/article_7e5c7e03-bdcf-5542-a6be-0433ba2d7aee.html">https://roanoke.com/news/local/nazi-leader-bill-white----in-his-own-words/article_7e5c7e03-bdcf-5542-a6be-0433ba2d7aee.html</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/assault-gets-even-ugliercontroversy-escalates-over-sexual-violence-campus/">https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/assault-gets-even-ugliercontroversy-escalates-over-sexual-violence-campus/&nbsp;</a>

The Lost Episode: Nazis for Ron Paul: Curtis Maynard, Pt. 2

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This episode originally ran on January 23, 2025. The second half of the story had to be taken down a few weeks later. That episode has now been rewritten and re-recorded. Before you listen to the newly released version of the lost episode, here's the original part one to refresh your memory.

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In 2010, a rising star in the small world of holocaust denial blogging murdered his ex-wife and then took his own life. This first chapter of his story follows his path from a troubled career as a registered nurse to his growing fame as a white supremacist blogger.

Sources:

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lawyer-Lake-Jackson-murder-suicide-followed-1710794.php

http://www.thenation.com/article/arrows-war

https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/americas-promise-ministries/

https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-5555-national-hungarian-freedom-fighters-day-1986

https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/Szittyakurt_USAHUN_1986/?pg=39&layout=s 

https://www.bocskairadio.org/en/an-interview-with-akos-l-nagy-president-of-the-american-hungarian-federation/

Katalin Hasulyó-Pintz. Doctoral dissertation, Identity Preservation and Diaspora Relations in the USA: the Hungarian Community of New Brunswick, New Jersey. Eötvös Loránd University, Budapest 2020

https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/RG-50.573.0005_tcn_en.pdf


https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html

https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/international-commission-on-romania-holocaust.html

This episode originally ran on January 23, 2025. The second half of the story had to be taken down a few weeks later. That episode has now been rewritten and re-recorded. Before you listen to the newly released version of the lost episode, here's the original part one to refresh your memory. ------ In 2010, a rising star in the small world of holocaust denial blogging murdered his ex-wife and then took his own life. This first chapter of his story follows his path from a troubled career as a registered nurse to his growing fame as a white supremacist blogger. Sources: <a href="https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lawyer-Lake-Jackson-murder-suicide-followed-1710794.php">https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Lawyer-Lake-Jackson-murder-suicide-followed-1710794.php</a>
<a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/arrows-war">http://www.thenation.com/article/arrows-war</a>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/americas-promise-ministries/">https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/americas-promise-ministries/</a>
<a href="https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-5555-national-hungarian-freedom-fighters-day-1986">https://www.reaganlibrary.gov/archives/speech/proclamation-5555-national-hungarian-freedom-fighters-day-1986</a>
<a href="https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/Szittyakurt_USAHUN_1986/?pg=39&amp;layout=s">https://library.hungaricana.hu/en/view/Szittyakurt_USAHUN_1986/?pg=39&amp;layout=s</a>&nbsp; <a href="https://www.bocskairadio.org/en/an-interview-with-akos-l-nagy-president-of-the-american-hungarian-federation/">https://www.bocskairadio.org/en/an-interview-with-akos-l-nagy-president-of-the-american-hungarian-federation/</a>
Katalin Hasuly&oacute;-Pintz. Doctoral dissertation, Identity Preservation and Diaspora Relations in the USA: the Hungarian Community of New Brunswick, New Jersey. E&ouml;tv&ouml;s Lor&aacute;nd University, Budapest 2020 <a href="https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/RG-50.573.0005_tcn_en.pdf">https://collections.ushmm.org/oh_findingaids/RG-50.573.0005_tcn_en.pdf</a> <a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html"></a>
<a href="https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html">https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1465015471074263044.html</a>
<a href="https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/international-commission-on-romania-holocaust.html">https://www.yadvashem.org/docs/international-commission-on-romania-holocaust.html</a>

CZM Rewind: Revisionist History Riverboat Cruise: Curtis Maynard, Pt. 1

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