Listen to the full Pangina Heals interview, originally featured in Season One. A judge, host, and contestant across the RuPaul's Drag Race universe, Pangina is also the owner of the iconic House of Heals nightclub, a cornerstone of the Bangkok queer nightlife scene.

Together, she and Daniel dive into Thailand travel, Bangkok's legendary drag scene, queer culture in Southeast Asia, identity, and the experiences that have shaped her life.

In this extended interview, Pangina opens up about growing up gay in Thailand, becoming a master of shade, and building her Bangkok nightclub empire from the ground up. She also shares what it was really like competing in front of her idol, RuPaul, judging and hosting international Drag Race franchises, and the emotional weight of being a "first" in so many ways on the show.

It's more than an hour of unfiltered conversation between old friends: funny, moving, and full of hard-earned perspective, equal parts Bangkok travel guide, queer travel podcast, and heart-to-heart.

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