Listen to the full Pangina Heals interview, originally featured in Season One. A judge, host, and contestant across the RuPaul's Drag Race universe, Pangina is also the owner of the iconic House of Heals nightclub, a cornerstone of the Bangkok queer nightlife scene.
Together, she and Daniel dive into Thailand travel, Bangkok's legendary drag scene, queer culture in Southeast Asia, identity, and the experiences that have shaped her life.
In this extended interview, Pangina opens up about growing up gay in Thailand, becoming a master of shade, and building her Bangkok nightclub empire from the ground up. She also shares what it was really like competing in front of her idol, RuPaul, judging and hosting international Drag Race franchises, and the emotional weight of being a "first" in so many ways on the show.
It's more than an hour of unfiltered conversation between old friends: funny, moving, and full of hard-earned perspective, equal parts Bangkok travel guide, queer travel podcast, and heart-to-heart.
Follow Pangina Heals on TikTok & Instagram @panginaheals
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About Wayfinder: Life-Changing Travel:
Wayfinder: Life-Changing Travel is a podcast for the curious, luxurious, and adventurous traveler. Host and veteran travel writer Daniel Scheffler ventures off the map and into immersive travel experiences of beauty, blunder, and transformation - those unforgettable moments guidebooks can't capture. With local tips, food adventures, and cultural encounters, Wayfinder reveals not just where to travel, but how to journey through the world with humor, wonder, and our own curiosity.
About Daniel Scheffler:
Daniel Scheffler is a travel writer, storyteller, and lifelong adventure-seeker who has spent years circling the globe in search of the experiences that can change us. Having traveled to more than 140 countries and written for publications including The New York Times, National Geographic, and Condé Nast Traveler, he believes the best journeys begin when we let go of the map. As the host of Wayfinder: Life-changing Travel, Daniel explores how travel can help us lose ourselves, find something unexpected — and ultimately come home changed.

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