In this episode of the Vital Health Podcast, host Duane Schulthess speaks with Bill Smith (Senior Fellow and Director, Life Sciences Initiative at The Pioneer Institute) to discuss how the 340B program has evolved from a safety net drug discount program into a major source of hospital revenue, what new research suggests about charity care and Medicaid access, and why transparency, hospital consolidation, and broader drug pricing policy are reshaping incentives across oncology and biopharma.
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Opinions expressed are those of the speakers. Recorded 6/5/26. The Vital Health Podcast is a production of Vital Transformation LLC © 2026.

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