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It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with you and Senator The state of free speech is something that has not been talked about a lot lately because we had this big victory here with Donald Trump and conservatives in charge. But we are seeing an insane crackdown on free speech in Europe right now and it is a very concerning moment.

It is verdict with Senator Ted Kruz Ben Ferguson with you and Senator The state of free speech is something that has not been talked about a lot lately because we had this big victory here with Donald Trump and conservatives in charge. But we are seeing an insane crackdown on free speech in Europe right now and it is a very concerning moment.

It is indeed, and let me say, free speech is a fundamental liberty. There's a reason is protected in the First Amendment to the Constitution. And on this podcast we have covered the assault on free speech in the United Kingdom. Sadly, it is not just the UK, it is all of Europe, it is the United States. It is a global assault on free speech. But tonight we're going to break down Number one. Jd Vance. He gave an incredible speech in Europe that I think really was important. It was calling out Europe for its abandonment of the values of free speech and how much of Europe has given up on those values. Secondly, we're going to talk about dose elon Musk, diving into the incredible waste and abuse we see in our federal government and in particular over four trillion dollars in federal payments that are unaccountable that we cannot figure out where they went. We're going to break that down as well.

It is indeed, and let me say, free speech is a fundamental liberty. There's a reason is protected in the First Amendment to the Constitution. And on this podcast we have covered the assault on free speech in the United Kingdom. Sadly, it is not just the UK, it is all of Europe, it is the United States. It is a global assault on free speech. But tonight we're going to break down Number one. Jd Vance. He gave an incredible speech in Europe that I think really was important. It was calling out Europe for its abandonment of the values of free speech and how much of Europe has given up on those values. Secondly, we're going to talk about dose elon Musk, diving into the incredible waste and abuse we see in our federal government and in particular over four trillion dollars in federal payments that are unaccountable that we cannot figure out where they went. We're going to break that down as well.

Yeah, they were absolutely lying, and we've got the receipts for that story. I want to talk to you real quick about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. After more than a year of war, tear and pain in Israel, there is still a great demand for basic humanitarian aid. That is where the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has supported and continues to support those in the Holy Land that are still facing the lingering horrors of war and those who are desperate for your help right now. Your gift today will provide critically an aid to communities in the North and the South that have been devastated by this ongoing war. Your generous donation will deliver help to those not only in need, and also the evacuees and refugees from the war torn areas, first responders that are in need, volunteers, wounded soldiers, even elderly Holocaust survivors, and families that have lost everything, and so many more. You can give hope during a time of incredible uncertainty. So to give a gift to bless Israel and er people. You can do it by visiting support IFCJ dot org. That's one word support IFCJ dot org. Or call them eight eight eight for eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ eight a eight four eight eight four three two five. So there's a lot of people that are listening and they're going to say, why are we talking about.

Yeah, they were absolutely lying, and we've got the receipts for that story. I want to talk to you real quick about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. After more than a year of war, tear and pain in Israel, there is still a great demand for basic humanitarian aid. That is where the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has supported and continues to support those in the Holy Land that are still facing the lingering horrors of war and those who are desperate for your help right now. Your gift today will provide critically an aid to communities in the North and the South that have been devastated by this ongoing war. Your generous donation will deliver help to those not only in need, and also the evacuees and refugees from the war torn areas, first responders that are in need, volunteers, wounded soldiers, even elderly Holocaust survivors, and families that have lost everything, and so many more. You can give hope during a time of incredible uncertainty. So to give a gift to bless Israel and er people. You can do it by visiting support IFCJ dot org. That's one word support IFCJ dot org. Or call them eight eight eight for eight eight IFCJ. That's eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ eight a eight four eight eight four three two five. So there's a lot of people that are listening and they're going to say, why are we talking about.

Free speech in Europe. Let's talk about America.

Free speech in Europe. Let's talk about America.

This is a I think a flashpoint and a warning point that we could be where Europe is if it wasn't for one election and this last one of the one I'm talking about, and that was part of the reason why I think jd Vance was so blunt in his speech in Europe about what they're doing to crack down on people just expressing their opinions.

This is a I think a flashpoint and a warning point that we could be where Europe is if it wasn't for one election and this last one of the one I'm talking about, and that was part of the reason why I think jd Vance was so blunt in his speech in Europe about what they're doing to crack down on people just expressing their opinions.

Well, listen off. In Europe and the United States flow on similar trend lines. You look at in the nineteen eighties, ron O Reagan became president, Margaret Thatcher became president. You look at after that, you had George Herbert Walker Bush, and then you had John Major. You look at Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. There are similar trend lines between the United States and Europe, and those trend lines are interwoven when it comes to fundamental liberties under the United States Constitution, the First Amendment, you've got religious liberty and free speech, and those are the two fundamental rights upon which all of our other liberties are built. And one of the most distressing things you look back, even five ten years ago, the left defended free speech. The left believed in free speech. As I look at today's Democrats, one of the things that scares me the most is the left has abandoned free speech. They've decided if you don't say what we agree with, we will silence you, we will cancel you, we will use big tech to muzzle you, we will use the power of government to fire you, to oppress you, and even to incarcerate you. Now, the last piece may seem extreme. You might say, Okay, look, we don't live in a world where you get locked up for what you say. Well, you know what, much like the Canarian the coal Mine, Europe is a precursor to where America is heading. And if you look at Europe, we have seen an assault on free speech that is terrifying. Now, on this podcast, you and I have talked about in the United Kingdom, in particular the efforts to prosecute those who tweet things that are deemed unacceptable, those who speak out, those who speak out against the epidemic of child rape. Child rape we see from Pakistani Muslims engage in rape gangs, raping not just hundreds, but thousands of children. And yet in the UK for years, for decades, there was a culture of repression and on the unwillingness of the political environment to talk about it. Now, I will say, we saw JD. Vans, my friend the Vice President, go to Europe this past week and give a speech that I think is really important. It shocked Europe. He was at the Munich Security Conference, which I've been to before. It's a conference that many of the nations of Europe go to the United States go to. They're typically roughly a dozen to twenty US senators to go to. And he gave a speech normally a government officially supposed to give a speech about how America and Europe were on the same side. We're all standing together. Rah rah rah JD. I'm proud of him. The speech he gave, he called out Europe for their willingness to violate free speech. I why don't you give a listen to this excerpt from JD's speech.

Well, listen off. In Europe and the United States flow on similar trend lines. You look at in the nineteen eighties, ron O Reagan became president, Margaret Thatcher became president. You look at after that, you had George Herbert Walker Bush, and then you had John Major. You look at Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. There are similar trend lines between the United States and Europe, and those trend lines are interwoven when it comes to fundamental liberties under the United States Constitution, the First Amendment, you've got religious liberty and free speech, and those are the two fundamental rights upon which all of our other liberties are built. And one of the most distressing things you look back, even five ten years ago, the left defended free speech. The left believed in free speech. As I look at today's Democrats, one of the things that scares me the most is the left has abandoned free speech. They've decided if you don't say what we agree with, we will silence you, we will cancel you, we will use big tech to muzzle you, we will use the power of government to fire you, to oppress you, and even to incarcerate you. Now, the last piece may seem extreme. You might say, Okay, look, we don't live in a world where you get locked up for what you say. Well, you know what, much like the Canarian the coal Mine, Europe is a precursor to where America is heading. And if you look at Europe, we have seen an assault on free speech that is terrifying. Now, on this podcast, you and I have talked about in the United Kingdom, in particular the efforts to prosecute those who tweet things that are deemed unacceptable, those who speak out, those who speak out against the epidemic of child rape. Child rape we see from Pakistani Muslims engage in rape gangs, raping not just hundreds, but thousands of children. And yet in the UK for years, for decades, there was a culture of repression and on the unwillingness of the political environment to talk about it. Now, I will say, we saw JD. Vans, my friend the Vice President, go to Europe this past week and give a speech that I think is really important. It shocked Europe. He was at the Munich Security Conference, which I've been to before. It's a conference that many of the nations of Europe go to the United States go to. They're typically roughly a dozen to twenty US senators to go to. And he gave a speech normally a government officially supposed to give a speech about how America and Europe were on the same side. We're all standing together. Rah rah rah JD. I'm proud of him. The speech he gave, he called out Europe for their willingness to violate free speech. I why don't you give a listen to this excerpt from JD's speech.

And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold Wars winners. I looked to Brussels, where EU Commission commissars warrened citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this very country where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action. I looked to Sweden. We're two weeks ago the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that resulted in his friend's murder, and as the judge in his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supp pposedly protect free expression do not in fact grant and I'm quoting a free pass to do or say anything without risking offending the group that holds that belief. And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular in the crosshairs.

And unfortunately, when I look at Europe today, it's sometimes not so clear what happened to some of the Cold Wars winners. I looked to Brussels, where EU Commission commissars warrened citizens that they intend to shut down social media during times of civil unrest the moment they spot what they've judged to be quote, hateful content. Or to this very country where police have carried out raids against citizens suspected of posting anti feminist comments online as part of quote combating misogyny on the Internet a day of action. I looked to Sweden. We're two weeks ago the government convicted a Christian activist for participating in Kuran burnings that resulted in his friend's murder, and as the judge in his case chillingly noted, Sweden's laws to supp pposedly protect free expression do not in fact grant and I'm quoting a free pass to do or say anything without risking offending the group that holds that belief. And perhaps most concerningly, I look to our very dear friends, the United Kingdom, where the backslide away from conscience rights has placed the basic liberties of religious Britons in particular in the crosshairs.

A little over two years ago.

A little over two years ago.

The British government charged Adam Smith Conner, a fifty one year old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own. After British law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend had aboarded years before.

The British government charged Adam Smith Conner, a fifty one year old physiotherapist and an Army veteran, with the heinous crime of standing fifty meters from an abortion clinic and silently praying for three minutes, not obstructing anyone, not interacting with anyone, just silently praying on his own. After British law enforcement spotted him and demanded to know what he was praying for, Adam replied simply, it was on behalf of the unborn son he and his former girlfriend had aboarded years before.

Now, the officers were not moved.

Now, the officers were not moved.

Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one off, crazy example of a badly written law. Being enacted against a single person. But no this last October, just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime. In Britain and across Europe, free speech, I fear is in retreat.

Adam was found guilty of breaking the government's new buffer zones law, which criminalized as silent prayer and other actions that could influence a person's decision within two hundred meters of an abortion facility. He was sentenced to pay thousands of pounds in legal costs to the prosecution. Now, I wish I could say that this was a fluke, a one off, crazy example of a badly written law. Being enacted against a single person. But no this last October, just a few months ago, the Scottish government began distributing letters to citizens whose houses lay within so called safe access zones, warning them that even private prayer within their own homes may amount to breaking the law. Naturally, the government urged readers to report any fellow citizens suspected guilty of thought crime. In Britain and across Europe, free speech, I fear is in retreat.

Not only did he just call them out to their face, he told the world what each one of these countries did.

Not only did he just call them out to their face, he told the world what each one of these countries did.

Yes, yes, yes, Amen, Listen when it comes to what fundamentally matters if we want to stay free, religious liberty is fundamental and free speech is fundamental. JD talked about how in the United Kingdom, silently praying has now been deemed a criminal offense. It is difficult to find a more staggering affront to individual liberty than that. And listen, I think we have an obligation to stand up and speak out. You know, Ben, I've talked about how Heidi and I were a mixed marriage. What do I mean by that? Heidi is a Francophile. I'm an angli phile.

Yes, yes, yes, Amen, Listen when it comes to what fundamentally matters if we want to stay free, religious liberty is fundamental and free speech is fundamental. JD talked about how in the United Kingdom, silently praying has now been deemed a criminal offense. It is difficult to find a more staggering affront to individual liberty than that. And listen, I think we have an obligation to stand up and speak out. You know, Ben, I've talked about how Heidi and I were a mixed marriage. What do I mean by that? Heidi is a Francophile. I'm an angli phile.

Heidi loves Paris.

Heidi loves Paris.

It's our favorite city on plunder Earth. I love the Brits. I love the United Kingdom. I love the incredible innovation, the incredible leadership of the Brits. So we're different and I appreciate it. I a p preach to the French, but the beauty of a marriage as you combine both. It breaks my heart to see the Brits abandoning free speech. And the Brits are not alone, it's all of Europe. I want you to listen to this. This is from sixty minutes this past Sunday. This is a group of German prosecutors discussing German law about free speech. I got to say this clip horrified me, fundamental.

It's our favorite city on plunder Earth. I love the Brits. I love the United Kingdom. I love the incredible innovation, the incredible leadership of the Brits. So we're different and I appreciate it. I a p preach to the French, but the beauty of a marriage as you combine both. It breaks my heart to see the Brits abandoning free speech. And the Brits are not alone, it's all of Europe. I want you to listen to this. This is from sixty minutes this past Sunday. This is a group of German prosecutors discussing German law about free speech. I got to say this clip horrified me, fundamental.

Give a listen.

Give a listen.

Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?

Is it a crime to insult somebody in public?

Yes?

Yes?

Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.

Yes, and it's a crime to insult them online as well.

Yes.

Yes.

The fine could be even higher if you insult someone in the Internet. Why because in Internet it stays there. If we are talking you face to face, you insult me and sold you okay, finish. But if you in the internet, if I insiled you or a politician.

The fine could be even higher if you insult someone in the Internet. Why because in Internet it stays there. If we are talking you face to face, you insult me and sold you okay, finish. But if you in the internet, if I insiled you or a politician.

That ticks around forever, yeah.

That ticks around forever, yeah.

The prosecutors explain German law also prohibits the spread malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes. If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime.

The prosecutors explain German law also prohibits the spread malicious gossip, violent threats, and fake quotes. If somebody posts something that's not true and then somebody else reposts it or likes it, are they committing a crime.

And the case of reposting it as a crime as well, because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or just reposted it.

And the case of reposting it as a crime as well, because the reader contstinguished whether you just invented this or just reposted it.

That's the same for us.

That's the same for us.

The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail time for repeat offenders.

The punishment for breaking hate speech laws can include jail time for repeat offenders.

I mean, I love how they say if you post something and notice the question there from sixty minutes about politicians, So you're on the other side, right, it's a divided country. You post something about somebody that you disagree with, they can now use that to lock you up, is what they're saying. And the prosecutor's like, yes, yes, that's exactly what we're going to do.

I mean, I love how they say if you post something and notice the question there from sixty minutes about politicians, So you're on the other side, right, it's a divided country. You post something about somebody that you disagree with, they can now use that to lock you up, is what they're saying. And the prosecutor's like, yes, yes, that's exactly what we're going to do.

Now. This is the government saying, if you dare say something we disagree with, we will lock you up. So I sent two tweets in the last twenty four hours, one retweeting this exchange. I said, this is not the first time the Germans have threatened to arrest you if you say something that the government doesn't like, and then number two, I retweeted the same exchange, but I said, so if someone called these guys quote goose stepping Nazis for gleefully enforcing totalitarian speech codes, that would be deemed a crime in Germany, I got to say on both of those. And by the way, I literally wondered, when I'm typing in these tweets. Listen, I'm a sitting senator from the Great State of Texas in the US Senate. As I'm typing in these tweets, I wondered, Gosh, if I visit Germany a year from now, will these bastards try to arrest me because I sent a tweet? And you know what, fine, if they do it, let's go. But let me say, how messed up is that that If I'm sitting on my phone saying, you're threatening to lock people up for saying things your government doesn't like and people are afraid. Okay, I cannot disagree with the totalitarian government. That's frightening. What has happened to Europe when free speech is speech? That terrifying to the European government that they're willing to imprison you for disagreeing with the orthodoxy of their beliefs.

Now. This is the government saying, if you dare say something we disagree with, we will lock you up. So I sent two tweets in the last twenty four hours, one retweeting this exchange. I said, this is not the first time the Germans have threatened to arrest you if you say something that the government doesn't like, and then number two, I retweeted the same exchange, but I said, so if someone called these guys quote goose stepping Nazis for gleefully enforcing totalitarian speech codes, that would be deemed a crime in Germany, I got to say on both of those. And by the way, I literally wondered, when I'm typing in these tweets. Listen, I'm a sitting senator from the Great State of Texas in the US Senate. As I'm typing in these tweets, I wondered, Gosh, if I visit Germany a year from now, will these bastards try to arrest me because I sent a tweet? And you know what, fine, if they do it, let's go. But let me say, how messed up is that that If I'm sitting on my phone saying, you're threatening to lock people up for saying things your government doesn't like and people are afraid. Okay, I cannot disagree with the totalitarian government. That's frightening. What has happened to Europe when free speech is speech? That terrifying to the European government that they're willing to imprison you for disagreeing with the orthodoxy of their beliefs.

Yeah, Adolf Hitler would be proud.

Yeah, Adolf Hitler would be proud.

Let's be honest if this, because this is exactly what he did to people that disagreed with him.

Let's be honest if this, because this is exactly what he did to people that disagreed with him.

He would lock them up.

He would lock them up.

By the way, if you travel to Germany and get arrested, I'm going to send you a cake with a file in it to chisel through the bars so you're at my back. But listen what you said. Adolf Hitler would be proud. Germany has a little bit of PTSD coming out of World War Two. And listen, the Germans they don't like being the bad guys of history. And I get Listen, I'm not German, but I get if you're a modern German and you're kind of like, wait, our people were like, we're literally the Nazis. I get that that would be traumatizing, that that would make you upset, Like what wait, you know, when's the last time you saw a movie where the Nazis were the good guys. They're incredibly nervous about that, but they've swung so far to the other direction, you know.

By the way, if you travel to Germany and get arrested, I'm going to send you a cake with a file in it to chisel through the bars so you're at my back. But listen what you said. Adolf Hitler would be proud. Germany has a little bit of PTSD coming out of World War Two. And listen, the Germans they don't like being the bad guys of history. And I get Listen, I'm not German, but I get if you're a modern German and you're kind of like, wait, our people were like, we're literally the Nazis. I get that that would be traumatizing, that that would make you upset, Like what wait, you know, when's the last time you saw a movie where the Nazis were the good guys. They're incredibly nervous about that, but they've swung so far to the other direction, you know.

I remember, I think.

I remember, I think.

It was in high school. I wrote a paper on how left and right in politics is not a straight line. It's not left on one side, right on the other. It's rather a circle where the extreme left and the extreme right intersect. They're both willing to interfere with individual liberty because of their radical ideology. This is a great example. I get if you're a German, you don't want to recreate the path of the Nazis. But you know what, if your government is willing to arrest someone for saying something thing you disagree with, guess what you're recreating the path of the Nazis.

It was in high school. I wrote a paper on how left and right in politics is not a straight line. It's not left on one side, right on the other. It's rather a circle where the extreme left and the extreme right intersect. They're both willing to interfere with individual liberty because of their radical ideology. This is a great example. I get if you're a German, you don't want to recreate the path of the Nazis. But you know what, if your government is willing to arrest someone for saying something thing you disagree with, guess what you're recreating the path of the Nazis.

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Explain that to America.

Explain that to America.

Well, let me read from our article in Fox News does says it found nearly untraceable budget line atems responsible for four point seven trillion in payments. The Trump administration's DOGE discovered an identification code linking US Treasury payments to a budget line at THEM, which accounts for nearly four point seven trillion dollars in payments which was oftentimes left blank. The Treasury Exit symbol TAS is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line at HIM standard financial process. Doze wrote in posts on x in the federal government, the TAS field was optional for four point seven trillion dollars in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost impossible. As of Saturday, this is now a required field increasing insight into where money is actually going. So understand four point seven trillion dollars. Listen, A million dollars is a lot of money. A billion dollars is a crap ton more, it's actually a thousand times more. A trillion dollars is a thousand thousand times more than a million dollars, And four point seven trillion is even in federal government spending a massive amount. The point here is the money that has been coming from the federal government has been massively wasted, and there has been no accountability, and the entire governmental system is reacting in pain and horror and agony that Donald Trump and Elon Musker bringing finally accountability to it.

Well, let me read from our article in Fox News does says it found nearly untraceable budget line atems responsible for four point seven trillion in payments. The Trump administration's DOGE discovered an identification code linking US Treasury payments to a budget line at THEM, which accounts for nearly four point seven trillion dollars in payments which was oftentimes left blank. The Treasury Exit symbol TAS is an identification code linking a Treasury payment to a budget line at HIM standard financial process. Doze wrote in posts on x in the federal government, the TAS field was optional for four point seven trillion dollars in payments and was often left blank, making traceability almost impossible. As of Saturday, this is now a required field increasing insight into where money is actually going. So understand four point seven trillion dollars. Listen, A million dollars is a lot of money. A billion dollars is a crap ton more, it's actually a thousand times more. A trillion dollars is a thousand thousand times more than a million dollars, And four point seven trillion is even in federal government spending a massive amount. The point here is the money that has been coming from the federal government has been massively wasted, and there has been no accountability, and the entire governmental system is reacting in pain and horror and agony that Donald Trump and Elon Musker bringing finally accountability to it.

You look at the four point seven trillion. Is this done on purpose? For this exact reason? If you don't know where the money's going, you can't trace the money, then you can't ask questions.

You look at the four point seven trillion. Is this done on purpose? For this exact reason? If you don't know where the money's going, you can't trace the money, then you can't ask questions.

Oh look, yes, and no. I had an old boss of mine, my very first boss, who said this was actually quite profound. He said, never blame on malice what can be explained with incompetence. Look, that explains a lot of government. There is massive waste, there is massive politicization and weaponization. If you're spending your own money, you care about it, Ben you care about your own money. If you're spending someone else's money, you don't care about it. And that problem in government is there's a culture of endemic waste that is enormously problematic, and you combine that with a politicization that there's a it doesn't matter I'm spending someone else's money, I don't care, and I'm going to spend it to promote transgender witches in some far off country. That's what we've seen and that's what Trump and Elon are exposing.

Oh look, yes, and no. I had an old boss of mine, my very first boss, who said this was actually quite profound. He said, never blame on malice what can be explained with incompetence. Look, that explains a lot of government. There is massive waste, there is massive politicization and weaponization. If you're spending your own money, you care about it, Ben you care about your own money. If you're spending someone else's money, you don't care about it. And that problem in government is there's a culture of endemic waste that is enormously problematic, and you combine that with a politicization that there's a it doesn't matter I'm spending someone else's money, I don't care, and I'm going to spend it to promote transgender witches in some far off country. That's what we've seen and that's what Trump and Elon are exposing.

You talk about what all they're exposing Outside the four point seven trillion in payments that we can't trace, let's talk about illegal immigrants receiving benefits and the media. By the way, they're going to defend everything they can, even if it's indefensible.

You talk about what all they're exposing Outside the four point seven trillion in payments that we can't trace, let's talk about illegal immigrants receiving benefits and the media. By the way, they're going to defend everything they can, even if it's indefensible.

A great example of that, man, And let me ask you this, is there one Democrat you know who has criticized one single example of massive waste, abuse and fraud. And by the way, by Democrat. I don't mean James Carve. We talked about that two days ago. I don't mean a consultant. I mean one elected Democrat. I can tell you in the US Senate, I don't know of a single one, do you.

A great example of that, man, And let me ask you this, is there one Democrat you know who has criticized one single example of massive waste, abuse and fraud. And by the way, by Democrat. I don't mean James Carve. We talked about that two days ago. I don't mean a consultant. I mean one elected Democrat. I can tell you in the US Senate, I don't know of a single one, do you.

No, not a single one.

No, not a single one.

And you would think at some point they could, they would come out and go, yeah, this is good for Americans, it's good for my district. It's good for the taxpayers that represent that. We're not going to spend money on X, Y or Z. None of these egregious items that we've listed on the show, and we've done a really good job of keeping people up to date.

And you would think at some point they could, they would come out and go, yeah, this is good for Americans, it's good for my district. It's good for the taxpayers that represent that. We're not going to spend money on X, Y or Z. None of these egregious items that we've listed on the show, and we've done a really good job of keeping people up to date.

We're where the money's going.

We're where the money's going.

None of them have been criticized by the Democrats and in the media. Again, they are just hell bent on saying Donald Trump bad, Elon Musk bad, Doge bad.

None of them have been criticized by the Democrats and in the media. Again, they are just hell bent on saying Donald Trump bad, Elon Musk bad, Doge bad.

Here's a great example.

Here's a great example.

Listen to this exchange with Stephen Miller, because it is it is hysterical. By the way, tonight, I saw Steven. I was at a party, so Howard Luddick was just confirmed as Commerce Secretary. He had a party in his house. I saw Stephen this evening and I told him, great job. On CNN listen to this exchange, because she really is. It's nutty. And I gotta say, CNN has become a clown show. It's not even it's not even real journalism. It's just silly. But listen to this back and.

Listen to this exchange with Stephen Miller, because it is it is hysterical. By the way, tonight, I saw Steven. I was at a party, so Howard Luddick was just confirmed as Commerce Secretary. He had a party in his house. I saw Stephen this evening and I told him, great job. On CNN listen to this exchange, because she really is. It's nutty. And I gotta say, CNN has become a clown show. It's not even it's not even real journalism. It's just silly. But listen to this back and.

Forth you mentioned yesterday and you mentioned again here, uh, illegal immigrants who are getting child tax credits? If are you looking for that information in the I R S data?

Forth you mentioned yesterday and you mentioned again here, uh, illegal immigrants who are getting child tax credits? If are you looking for that information in the I R S data?

Anytime a crime is committed, of course there should be an investigation.

Anytime a crime is committed, of course there should be an investigation.

Is it your position that.

Is it your position that.

Of somebody who is in the data, the federal government will find every illegal alien who is stealing American tax pair of dollars? And that's what Americans.

Of somebody who is in the data, the federal government will find every illegal alien who is stealing American tax pair of dollars? And that's what Americans.

Find that in the I don't even that. It's a simple question, man. And you find that information in the IRS data and share.

Find that in the I don't even that. It's a simple question, man. And you find that information in the IRS data and share.

That with lawn IRS investigators find illegal aliens stealing tax payer money, of course I'll be referred to ICE. Of course, It'll be referred to Homeland security investigations.

That with lawn IRS investigators find illegal aliens stealing tax payer money, of course I'll be referred to ICE. Of course, It'll be referred to Homeland security investigations.

Of course it will be.

Of course it will be.

Surely, your position is not that we should let illegal aliens steal taxpayer dollars. You want to talk about something to be upset about, that's it. What do you think the millions of illegal aliens who have also stolen social security. Illegal aliens in mass have fake social Security numbers, they have fake identities.

Surely, your position is not that we should let illegal aliens steal taxpayer dollars. You want to talk about something to be upset about, that's it. What do you think the millions of illegal aliens who have also stolen social security. Illegal aliens in mass have fake social Security numbers, they have fake identities.

Those are felonies.

Those are felonies.

Why should there be an entire class in this country that is immunized from criminal prosecution and arrest for committing felonies felony, theft of taxpayer information, felony, theft of social security, felony, theft of identity. These are all crimes. And yes they will be investigated, Yes they'll be prosecuted, and yes he will be deported. And you know what deportations. Americans will get jobs, Americans will Americans will get housing.

Why should there be an entire class in this country that is immunized from criminal prosecution and arrest for committing felonies felony, theft of taxpayer information, felony, theft of social security, felony, theft of identity. These are all crimes. And yes they will be investigated, Yes they'll be prosecuted, and yes he will be deported. And you know what deportations. Americans will get jobs, Americans will Americans will get housing.

Even if they got a child, if they got a credit, a child tax credit, and they will be referred. You're saying to Ice for that, and you would expect imported for that?

Even if they got a child, if they got a credit, a child tax credit, and they will be referred. You're saying to Ice for that, and you would expect imported for that?

Is that?

Is that?

Is that the position of the administration.

Is that the position of the administration.

If it is found that a crime has been committed, they be referred. If it is justifies the prosecution, they'll be prosecuted. If it justifies a deportation, they will be deported. This will be based on existing IRIS protocols and procedures for criminal investigation and fraud.

If it is found that a crime has been committed, they be referred. If it is justifies the prosecution, they'll be prosecuted. If it justifies a deportation, they will be deported. This will be based on existing IRIS protocols and procedures for criminal investigation and fraud.

All right.

All right.

The difference is that no one is given immunity anymore. No one is given permission to break the law anymore, because this is not a country, this is not a sovereign territory. If illegal aliens can freely steal billions with a b billions of taxpayer dollars, and I would have to imagine that that CNN, which is endlessly talked about the importance of democracy and the rule of law, would say that no class in this country should be above the law, least of all illegal aliens who've trespassed on our territory.

The difference is that no one is given immunity anymore. No one is given permission to break the law anymore, because this is not a country, this is not a sovereign territory. If illegal aliens can freely steal billions with a b billions of taxpayer dollars, and I would have to imagine that that CNN, which is endlessly talked about the importance of democracy and the rule of law, would say that no class in this country should be above the law, least of all illegal aliens who've trespassed on our territory.

Stephen, I'm just asking. I wanted to get your position on some things this. We're not taking a position here. We wanted to get some answers to some questions. There are so many questions that need to.

Stephen, I'm just asking. I wanted to get your position on some things this. We're not taking a position here. We wanted to get some answers to some questions. There are so many questions that need to.

Be able in fact, indifferent or unbiased on these questions.

Be able in fact, indifferent or unbiased on these questions.

But thank you, Stephen Miller, Thank you so much much for your time. Really appreciate it. And we'll be right by here.

But thank you, Stephen Miller, Thank you so much much for your time. Really appreciate it. And we'll be right by here.

It's amazing.

It's amazing.

It's just like, oh, we don't take positions here, and I love I grids. He grins and laughs in her face, like are you kidding me? Everybody watching right now knows exactly what you're doing, and you're trying to act like we're doing something wrong when in fact we're saving taxpayers dollars.

It's just like, oh, we don't take positions here, and I love I grids. He grins and laughs in her face, like are you kidding me? Everybody watching right now knows exactly what you're doing, and you're trying to act like we're doing something wrong when in fact we're saving taxpayers dollars.

What Miller is saying is exactly right. The federal government should enforce the law. If you have illegal aliens who are stealing from the taxpayers, they should be prosecuted. And the bizarre position CNN is taking is, well, if the IRS knows that you're illegally stealing from the taxpayers, the IRS shouldn't tell that to the rest of the federal government. You should protect the illegal aliens who are stealing from the taxpayers. That's a weird proposition. Why is the IRS separate from dj separate from DHS, separate from ICE, separate from all of the different federal agencies. And CNN is so vested in saying, we want millions of illegal aliens here and we want there to be no consequences. So their continuing to engage in fraud, to work illegally, to draw so security payments, to draw government payments fraudulently, that is CNN's position. And I got to say, I'm going to credit Steven Miller for calling out CNN for they're not engaged in news. They have a position on this. They don't want the law enforced, and I gotta say I think the American people do.

What Miller is saying is exactly right. The federal government should enforce the law. If you have illegal aliens who are stealing from the taxpayers, they should be prosecuted. And the bizarre position CNN is taking is, well, if the IRS knows that you're illegally stealing from the taxpayers, the IRS shouldn't tell that to the rest of the federal government. You should protect the illegal aliens who are stealing from the taxpayers. That's a weird proposition. Why is the IRS separate from dj separate from DHS, separate from ICE, separate from all of the different federal agencies. And CNN is so vested in saying, we want millions of illegal aliens here and we want there to be no consequences. So their continuing to engage in fraud, to work illegally, to draw so security payments, to draw government payments fraudulently, that is CNN's position. And I got to say, I'm going to credit Steven Miller for calling out CNN for they're not engaged in news. They have a position on this. They don't want the law enforced, and I gotta say I think the American people do.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

Yeah, no doubt about it.

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We're going to keep covering this issue and watch the money for you because these are the moments that we have to just say, Hey, here's the choice. Do you want illegal immigrants having all this money or do you want to save this money when they're breaking the law. Don't forget we do this show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Hit that subscriber auto download button, grab my show, The Ben Ferguson Show. On those in between days, I'll keep you update on the latest breaking news and the Center and I will see you back here Friday morning.