Dean Francis had never heard of kratom, until he says it nearly killed his son. Now, he’s dedicating countless hours and energy to sound the alarm about the dangers of the popular supplement.
In a relatively short period of time, he’s become one of kratom’s most critical voices, and he’s now at the center of an intense national debate on its regulation.
Francis sat down with Catie Beck on the latest episode of ‘Untold – A WTVR Podcast’ to talk about how his family’s painful experience turned him into a passionate activist.

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Virginia State Police Col. Jeff Katz
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