In the popular imagination, preppers are busy hoarding tinned food in their bunkers while they wait for the end of the world. But is this what most prepping looks like? And is climate change as bad as all that? 

The bin fire of the last few years has ramped the eco-anxiety up to an 11. But as we go about our lives, studying, feeding our families, paying off our debts and waiting for the next season of The Great British Bake Off, have we all put our heads a little too far into the sand? Sure, we’re all worried, but we can’t be thinking about it all the time, much less heading to the hills to shoot our dinner and drag it back to our underground bunkers. Besides, it won't come to that... will it? 

Is there anything we can learn from the prepping mindset as the reality of climate change comes barrelling toward us? 

This episode features: 

• John Scarinci – President, Australian Preppers Survival League
• Kezia Barker – Senior Lecturer in Geography, Liverpool John Moores University
• Tommy Wiedmann – Professor of Sustainability, UNSW Engineering 

Preppers is created by the UNSW Centre for Ideas.