To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Jeedge.

To Teas in a pod with Teddy Mellencamp and camera Jeedge.

All right, y'all, let's go.

All right, y'all, let's go.

We are back Andy Cohen part two, and we're going to talk a little bit about my favorite topic, cameras and obviously Andy's as well, because Camra was mentioned more than any other housewife and Andy's book forty times.

We are back Andy Cohen part two, and we're going to talk a little bit about my favorite topic, cameras and obviously Andy's as well, because Camra was mentioned more than any other housewife and Andy's book forty times.

But now I know it's because they made out. We can't say hook. Oh my god, that has nothing to do with it.

But now I know it's because they made out. We can't say hook. Oh my god, that has nothing to do with it.

I think that really was number two. Let me let's guest Rina.

I think that really was number two. Let me let's guest Rina.

No, really, somebody that calls you a lot, now Bey in your book you say multiple times called me, No, you're Grisa.

No, really, somebody that calls you a lot, now Bey in your book you say multiple times called me, No, you're Grisa.

Okay, so Teresa, So it's camera at forty times.

Okay, so Teresa, So it's camera at forty times.

Yes, in the body time Teresa thirty one times. Garcel I was surprised by this one because I did know you guys were as close and.

Yes, in the body time Teresa thirty one times. Garcel I was surprised by this one because I did know you guys were as close and.

Twenty six times.

Twenty six times.

We were in can together with Dorri, right, but only got thirty.

We were in can together with Dorri, right, but only got thirty.

I was a little jealous of that.

I was a little jealous of that.

So I was like, still, garcel I mean, you talked her, talked with her through the reunion Renna twenty three times, even throughout a pause, so I was like, she still got above Renna twenty six, Bethany twenty two times, Vicki twenty one, Kyle seventeen, Jinshaw sixteen, Erica fifteen, Jill fourteen times.

So I was like, still, garcel I mean, you talked her, talked with her through the reunion Renna twenty three times, even throughout a pause, so I was like, she still got above Renna twenty six, Bethany twenty two times, Vicki twenty one, Kyle seventeen, Jinshaw sixteen, Erica fifteen, Jill fourteen times.

What could you Jill?

What could you Jill?

Jill, Well, it was all about me kind of reprimanding her and her being in trouble, I announcing that.

Jill, Well, it was all about me kind of reprimanding her and her being in trouble, I announcing that.

Yeah, I really feel like I was announced.

Yeah, I really feel like I was announced.

I was talked about the most because it was during the time where they were.

I was talked about the most because it was during the time where they were.

That is why it was. It was still July. It was July. The month of July was a big time.

That is why it was. It was still July. It was July. The month of July was a big time.

I would have appreciated being talked about six times because then I would have been with Marlowe and Phedra instead of Teddy and had their bro at five times.

I would have appreciated being talked about six times because then I would have been with Marlowe and Phedra instead of Teddy and had their bro at five times.

Oh my god, I'm sorry, Shannon. You're all about what's happened in his life days right by the way. You totally inspired me.

Oh my god, I'm sorry, Shannon. You're all about what's happened in his life days right by the way. You totally inspired me.

And today I woke up and I wrote you know the date, and I just talked about how.

And today I woke up and I wrote you know the date, and I just talked about how.

Really a book. No, I'm not going to write a book.

Really a book. No, I'm not going to write a book.

I'm not going to write a book, but I thought it was a really good thing that you can you know, I mean, your journals have been around forever, but but just something for your kids.

I'm not going to write a book, but I thought it was a really good thing that you can you know, I mean, your journals have been around forever, but but just something for your kids.

It kind of replaced kind of replaced having a shrink for me in a whey yeah way, because I felt like I needed to figure out what I was feeling.

It kind of replaced kind of replaced having a shrink for me in a whey yeah way, because I felt like I needed to figure out what I was feeling.

Your book is such a cool concept, and it really is an easy read because it's really broken down todays. It's basically a diary, and you talk about I mean, I know that Ben gets up at seven am every morning. I know that it's a struggle to put his gloves on.

Your book is such a cool concept, and it really is an easy read because it's really broken down todays. It's basically a diary, and you talk about I mean, I know that Ben gets up at seven am every morning. I know that it's a struggle to put his gloves on.

I figured it out.

I figured it out.

Yeah, I know that watcha who you know Pete on the floor when you brought Ben home and Ben, Yeah, return the favor.

Yeah, I know that watcha who you know Pete on the floor when you brought Ben home and Ben, Yeah, return the favor.

Yes, we know that. We know that Ben wished or was a cat? Yes, yes, kidding.

Yes, we know that. We know that Ben wished or was a cat? Yes, yes, kidding.

Oh, by the way, I wanted to text the other day. I thought i'd say today. So our dog died July fourth, and Sophia was very attached to the dog. In one another animal, she wanted a cat and it is allergic to cats. So we got a blue Russian and he's not allergic to it. We actually had production guys come into the house that loved cats and they're allergic and they got it cat in their face and everything, and they all told.

Oh, by the way, I wanted to text the other day. I thought i'd say today. So our dog died July fourth, and Sophia was very attached to the dog. In one another animal, she wanted a cat and it is allergic to cats. So we got a blue Russian and he's not allergic to it. We actually had production guys come into the house that loved cats and they're allergic and they got it cat in their face and everything, and they all told.

Me nothing, are they bald cats.

Me nothing, are they bald cats.

They're beautiful cats.

They're beautiful cats.

In fact, Heather Debro's daughter recently got one as well to take to her dorm room.

In fact, Heather Debro's daughter recently got one as well to take to her dorm room.

Wow.

Wow.

So they're beautiful cats.

So they're beautiful cats.

I want to see a picture of Yeah, beautiful.

I want to see a picture of Yeah, beautiful.

Cats and good cats and just they're they're great. They're all grey, they're cute, beautiful cat if you so, if you need a cat, okay, just telling. Yeah, it's good news.

Cats and good cats and just they're they're great. They're all grey, they're cute, beautiful cat if you so, if you need a cat, okay, just telling. Yeah, it's good news.

Okay, now we're going through. We're color highlighted here.

Okay, now we're going through. We're color highlighted here.

So what is your all time favorite moment of camera on Real Household County?

So what is your all time favorite moment of camera on Real Household County?

That is so hard?

That is so hard?

No, I mean, he's no, I'm gay.

No, I mean, he's no, I'm gay.

That's really hard.

That's really hard.

I think, I think, I mean, I don't know if I could say one actual moment, but I would say that just the arc of you splitting from Simon and then finding.

I think, I think, I mean, I don't know if I could say one actual moment, but I would say that just the arc of you splitting from Simon and then finding.

Love, I think is it speaks.

Love, I think is it speaks.

To this show and specifically your show, how much time you've been on it and how much has happened.

To this show and specifically your show, how much time you've been on it and how much has happened.

If you inspire me, I would have been the longest lasting.

If you inspire me, I would have been the longest lasting.

By the way.

By the way.

Wow, thank you for that.

Wow, thank you for that.

We're not budd All years consecutive doesn't count.

We're not budd All years consecutive doesn't count.

It's yes, No, it's years.

It's yes, No, it's years.

I'm sorry, Oh that's not true.

I'm sorry, Oh that's not true.

It's all right.

It's all right.

Yeah, Okay, what it was your favorite moment of Teddy, He's like, holy hill, yeah didn't exist.

Yeah, Okay, what it was your favorite moment of Teddy, He's like, holy hill, yeah didn't exist.

That's why she's gone.

That's why she's gone.

When she there was a moment.

When she there was a moment.

What were you and Dorry getting into it about at the Elton joke at the Boy George concert at the Hollywood Bowl.

What were you and Dorry getting into it about at the Elton joke at the Boy George concert at the Hollywood Bowl.

Oh weren't you?

Oh weren't you?

Yeah, we were.

Yeah, we were.

I don't know why I got so p K had made a joke to Kyle something along the line. I forget what it was, but we all decided it wasn't a joke, right, and I said something about British humor, and she was like, I don't.

I don't know why I got so p K had made a joke to Kyle something along the line. I forget what it was, but we all decided it wasn't a joke, right, and I said something about British humor, and she was like, I don't.

I don't know what.

I don't know what.

I don't know that that's my favorite moment, but it's something for some reason that just I.

I don't know that that's my favorite moment, but it's something for some reason that just I.

Thought maybe it was the moment where you exposed Brandy and Den sleeping together.

Thought maybe it was the moment where you exposed Brandy and Den sleeping together.

Oh well, that's what I like.

Oh well, that's what I like.

What I like about Teddy is that she is very unafraid. I mean she just yeah.

What I like about Teddy is that she is very unafraid. I mean she just yeah.

Yeah, yeah, I don't really have a fear when it comes to driving.

Yeah, yeah, I don't really have a fear when it comes to driving.

Can't drive.

Can't drive.

I got all excited in your book when you said you don't drive, and then I realized it's because you live in New York.

I got all excited in your book when you said you don't drive, and then I realized it's because you live in New York.

Not right, But I do drive.

Not right, But I do drive.

Okay, So.

Okay, So.

You had originally told Tama when you spoke to her when she was fired. Yes, you said that it wasn't necessarily something.

You had originally told Tama when you spoke to her when she was fired. Yes, you said that it wasn't necessarily something.

That you wanted to do.

That you wanted to do.

You weren't when you talk to Tama. But in the book it says that you you it was you, it was your decision.

You weren't when you talk to Tama. But in the book it says that you you it was you, it was your decision.

What did I say to you? Oh God, what.

What did I say to you? Oh God, what.

Did I say to you?

Did I say to you?

Well, look, it could still be.

Well, look, it could still be.

Listen, you didn't lie, right, but you awarded it very well.

Listen, you didn't lie, right, but you awarded it very well.

Look, I don't think I can tell you. I don't ever.

Look, I don't think I can tell you. I don't ever.

I did think it was the right thing to do, and I did want to do it, obviously, but I and.

I did think it was the right thing to do, and I did want to do it, obviously, but I and.

By but but excuse me, you've also said it was the best thing.

By but but excuse me, you've also said it was the best thing.

I mean, I don't know that this podcast would have started if you had been.

I mean, I don't know that this podcast would have started if you had been.

I am actually I was.

I am actually I was.

I had been on for twelve years straight, and I will tell you I think after twelve years, every housewife should be to be on pause for a year.

I had been on for twelve years straight, and I will tell you I think after twelve years, every housewife should be to be on pause for a year.

I'm telling you.

I'm telling you.

It's like I will.

It's like I will.

Say that I was depressed, and of course the pandemic hit at the same time, trying to figure out, you know, if it was twelve years doing the same thing. I knew my schedule, I knew everything, and all of a sudden it was like oh shit, what am I doing? And it feel I felt like I was kicked out of.

Say that I was depressed, and of course the pandemic hit at the same time, trying to figure out, you know, if it was twelve years doing the same thing. I knew my schedule, I knew everything, and all of a sudden it was like oh shit, what am I doing? And it feel I felt like I was kicked out of.

The cool girls. Yeah right.

The cool girls. Yeah right.

I then after a year, I'm feeling sorry for myself.

I then after a year, I'm feeling sorry for myself.

You know, I picked myself back up. I got a call from Teddy and iHeart, asking me to do this, and I got a call from you. Actually, I think I'm gonna call from you first, asking to do.

You know, I picked myself back up. I got a call from Teddy and iHeart, asking me to do this, and I got a call from you. Actually, I think I'm gonna call from you first, asking to do.

Yes.

Yes.

And then I did the podcast and it just things just started flowing. And Eddie kept telling me, listen, babe, it's going to be okay. I understand, you know the same.

And then I did the podcast and it just things just started flowing. And Eddie kept telling me, listen, babe, it's going to be okay. I understand, you know the same.

And I also told you it's the mafia and once you're in, not out, and something will happen.

And I also told you it's the mafia and once you're in, not out, and something will happen.

So Andy called me. He actually texted me. He said, when you feel good, call me. Let's talk.

So Andy called me. He actually texted me. He said, when you feel good, call me. Let's talk.

And I said, okay, So I called him. He said, listen, is this when you thought you were going to be in trouble? No, And this is after I've already been hired. And he said, this was a network decision. If you get offers from other networks, please come to me and talk to me first. I feel like you will be back, you know, just keep tight.

And I said, okay, So I called him. He said, listen, is this when you thought you were going to be in trouble? No, And this is after I've already been hired. And he said, this was a network decision. If you get offers from other networks, please come to me and talk to me first. I feel like you will be back, you know, just keep tight.

And that was it.

And that was it.

So in the back back of my head, you know, I'm thinking, oh, it might happen, it might not happen. In the next season, gets you know, picked up and it's heather to brow and I think, I text you a fucking sad face or something, and then it.

So in the back back of my head, you know, I'm thinking, oh, it might happen, it might not happen. In the next season, gets you know, picked up and it's heather to brow and I think, I text you a fucking sad face or something, and then it.

Just it just happened.

Just it just happened.

But had I known at that time from day one, I think my mindset would have been different. So, I mean, at the end of the day, it all worked out and I'm happy to be back, and I come back with a different perspective.

But had I known at that time from day one, I think my mindset would have been different. So, I mean, at the end of the day, it all worked out and I'm happy to be back, and I come back with a different perspective.

Eddie came back with a different perspective as well. I mean I think if you've watched she's very engaged.

Eddie came back with a different perspective as well. I mean I think if you've watched she's very engaged.

He's engaged, and he's enjoying it, and he says like, you know what I am because there's certain people on the show that aren't on the show anymore.

He's engaged, and he's enjoying it, and he says like, you know what I am because there's certain people on the show that aren't on the show anymore.

So I feel like I can't do that.

So I feel like I can't do that.

And you can appreciate the good parts and also realize what to step away from as a husband. Yeah, for sure, wife be in it and so involved and it's such a great part.

And you can appreciate the good parts and also realize what to step away from as a husband. Yeah, for sure, wife be in it and so involved and it's such a great part.

Of the show.

Of the show.

Yeah, I mean, it was so good that when I got asked back, I thought for a second, I'm like, maybe I should just come back as a friend, because you know, when you break up with somebody and your heart broken, and then you get over the hump and you move.

Yeah, I mean, it was so good that when I got asked back, I thought for a second, I'm like, maybe I should just come back as a friend, because you know, when you break up with somebody and your heart broken, and then you get over the hump and you move.

On with your life, and then I always come back.

On with your life, and then I always come back.

Then you think, do I really want them back in my life all the time? So that was going through my head. Only I'm all in, I'm all out right, Yeah I try.

Then you think, do I really want them back in my life all the time? So that was going through my head. Only I'm all in, I'm all out right, Yeah I try.

Anyways, there was a part in the book that kind of like when I heard it, there was a moment of like sadness, but then also a moment of being really proud when you said I had Teddy's dad on the on the pod, I mean on the on watch What Happens Live, and you said, you know, you said really nice things about him, and I remember we texted that night as well. But you said in the book that Teddy is as codependent as any daughter with a famous father, but the they.

Anyways, there was a part in the book that kind of like when I heard it, there was a moment of like sadness, but then also a moment of being really proud when you said I had Teddy's dad on the on the pod, I mean on the on watch What Happens Live, and you said, you know, you said really nice things about him, and I remember we texted that night as well. But you said in the book that Teddy is as codependent as any daughter with a famous father, but the they.

Were sweet with each other.

Were sweet with each other.

Would you want the same relationship I have with my dad with Lucy?

Would you want the same relationship I have with my dad with Lucy?

Well, I don't fully know your relationship with your dad. Fully, What I.

Well, I don't fully know your relationship with your dad. Fully, What I.

Said is codependent going on a talk show with your famous father.

Said is codependent going on a talk show with your famous father.

So you wanted it.

So you wanted it.

Wasn't show and he wasn't on the shows.

Wasn't show and he wasn't on the shows.

You wanted the experience of going on watching what happens.

You wanted the experience of going on watching what happens.

I have to be successful for him, and I saw you you were so sweet with him, and you were so sweet with me to in turn, you know, you just because also you were in the situation of your dad who hates going on talk shows.

I have to be successful for him, and I saw you you were so sweet with him, and you were so sweet with me to in turn, you know, you just because also you were in the situation of your dad who hates going on talk shows.

Was he a difficult interview.

Was he a difficult interview.

He at first, but he really warmed up as it went on. He was really warming up and he really vibed. And when he left, he was like, that was fun, and he said I love watching you on New Year's Eve, which meant so much to me.

He at first, but he really warmed up as it went on. He was really warming up and he really vibed. And when he left, he was like, that was fun, and he said I love watching you on New Year's Eve, which meant so much to me.

I was like, oh, wow, that's so baby.

I was like, oh, wow, that's so baby.

They really actually hit it off, I mean didn't.

They really actually hit it off, I mean didn't.

The after show I think was really where he peeked he was starting.

The after show I think was really where he peeked he was starting.

He was really cooking.

He was really cooking.

But also it was it was, you know, more relaxed, and I was able to just shoot the ship a little more. But you know, for me, it was watching you sit there in an unenviable position of I'm on a talk show with Andy who I have a history with, and my dad who doesn't like being on talk I mean.

But also it was it was, you know, more relaxed, and I was able to just shoot the ship a little more. But you know, for me, it was watching you sit there in an unenviable position of I'm on a talk show with Andy who I have a history with, and my dad who doesn't like being on talk I mean.

Honestly, I was like a nervous stage mom watching him on the show. I could see she was so nervous because, yeah, but what I.

Honestly, I was like a nervous stage mom watching him on the show. I could see she was so nervous because, yeah, but what I.

Was thinking about it, because there's there is a lot of talk now about NEPO babies, right there is so I mean, I personally think it's so amazing to be a NEPO baby because you're going to be proud of your parents, which your kids.

Was thinking about it, because there's there is a lot of talk now about NEPO babies, right there is so I mean, I personally think it's so amazing to be a NEPO baby because you're going to be proud of your parents, which your kids.

Are going to go through your kids are not cooking.

Are going to go through your kids are not cooking.

But also it's about the way that you raise your kids as being the NEPO parent because and you know, I'll have to raise my kids the same way that my dad raised me, which is really like you have to work for whatever you want. And I think that he's so strict, he's so strict, he's so even inties. But I love that your kids are seeing the same type of thing from you. And also my my one big thing from that I learned from my dad is like you will not get anywhere or get anything without working for it, and you are able to show that to your kids. And I think that's the biggest lesson to anybody. And yeah, there are going to be times people are going to throw it in your kid's face the same way they throw it.

But also it's about the way that you raise your kids as being the NEPO parent because and you know, I'll have to raise my kids the same way that my dad raised me, which is really like you have to work for whatever you want. And I think that he's so strict, he's so strict, he's so even inties. But I love that your kids are seeing the same type of thing from you. And also my my one big thing from that I learned from my dad is like you will not get anywhere or get anything without working for it, and you are able to show that to your kids. And I think that's the biggest lesson to anybody. And yeah, there are going to be times people are going to throw it in your kid's face the same way they throw it.

In my like oh you're just Camstad and I'm like, yeah.

In my like oh you're just Camstad and I'm like, yeah.

I'm really proud of that, thank you, But like moving on, Yeah, like didn't get a cent from him, and I got all of the knowledge I could.

I'm really proud of that, thank you, But like moving on, Yeah, like didn't get a cent from him, and I got all of the knowledge I could.

Right.

Right.

That was the moment that I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that word codependent, there's something about it on my.

That was the moment that I was like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like that word codependent, there's something about it on my.

Well, shit, codependent. I'm not saying you have a codependent relationship with your dad. I'm saying, going on a talk show with your dad, you were in that situation codependent because you wanted it to work. No.

Well, shit, codependent. I'm not saying you have a codependent relationship with your dad. I'm saying, going on a talk show with your dad, you were in that situation codependent because you wanted it to work. No.

I remember you came into my dressing room to say hi.

I remember you came into my dressing room to say hi.

And the one thing I can say about Andy, you guys, is no matter if you're a fired housewife or you're gone or whatever it is, he will text you back.

And the one thing I can say about Andy, you guys, is no matter if you're a fired housewife or you're gone or whatever it is, he will text you back.

He will come see you in the dressing room before like he's never.

He will come see you in the dressing room before like he's never.

Had he But there are some people, not everybody, Not everybody's like that. Some people treat you differently when you're no longer in the mix.

Had he But there are some people, not everybody, Not everybody's like that. Some people treat you differently when you're no longer in the mix.

Well, John John Mayer, I don't have it.

Well, John John Mayer, I don't have it.

We're going to talk about John Mayor.

We're going to talk about John Mayor.

No.

No.

There was a quote that he said about your star, You're an A list celebrity with a.

There was a quote that he said about your star, You're an A list celebrity with a.

What was an A lister who uh like parties like a B lister? The mentality something.

What was an A lister who uh like parties like a B lister? The mentality something.

Yeah, I thought that was to me.

Yeah, I thought that was to me.

I don't know why that quote just really stuck out in my head. I love that coat and I love him so much. We got the joy of meeting him at the Babyby shower and I remember you leaning over because I was sitting next to Teddy. Oh hell you guys, you rse the story told on and then and then you looked at me and you said that's John Mayer's chair. And he showed up and he didn't. I I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, and he's like no, Sid and I'm like right, okay, okay, and I'm like no, I'm getting up.

I don't know why that quote just really stuck out in my head. I love that coat and I love him so much. We got the joy of meeting him at the Babyby shower and I remember you leaning over because I was sitting next to Teddy. Oh hell you guys, you rse the story told on and then and then you looked at me and you said that's John Mayer's chair. And he showed up and he didn't. I I'm like, oh, I'm sorry, and he's like no, Sid and I'm like right, okay, okay, and I'm like no, I'm getting up.

Yeah he he Do.

Yeah he he Do.

You know him?

You know him?

I've known him, I don't know, probably like maybe twelve thirteen years.

I've known him, I don't know, probably like maybe twelve thirteen years.

Seems like a really cool dude.

Seems like a really cool dude.

Yeah, very cool dude.

Yeah, very cool dude.

You know who else?

You know who else?

I like?

I like?

Who?

Who?

The guy that you had behind the bar with the weed company.

The guy that you had behind the bar with the weed company.

Oh Greg, he loves you.

Oh Greg, he loves you.

My girlfriend that was with me that night, she actually bought a whole.

My girlfriend that was with me that night, she actually bought a whole.

Sweat Yeah, oh I love it.

Sweat Yeah, oh I love it.

Yes, he runs this company called Camp High and I met him through John.

Yes, he runs this company called Camp High and I met him through John.

Yes. Yes, very cool. That's so funny, very cool.

Yes. Yes, very cool. That's so funny, very cool.

Has there ever been a moment where you are like we could cross that line?

Has there ever been a moment where you are like we could cross that line?

Because people they do ask people like thank you, and John have something going. People think there's a rumor out there that you John and Sheena have hooked up.

Because people they do ask people like thank you, and John have something going. People think there's a rumor out there that you John and Sheena have hooked up.

Okay, not she I No is there? No is there?

Okay, not she I No is there? No is there?

No, we're not You have not hooked up with any housewife.

No, we're not You have not hooked up with any housewife.

No, she's not a housewife.

No, she's not a housewife.

Well I wropped up with anyone?

Well I wropped up with anyone?

Yeah, smart correct, very forgot made right.

Yeah, smart correct, very forgot made right.

Well yeah, we made out on television too. By the way, it's not like Tammar and I like snuck away from in.

Well yeah, we made out on television too. By the way, it's not like Tammar and I like snuck away from in.

Front of Eddie.

Front of Eddie.

In front of Eddie.

In front of Eddie.

We're not making it a bad thing, you know.

We're not making it a bad thing, you know.

Oh my god, I know.

Oh my god, I know.

I had to like say, so Eddie, Andy's books kind of going around and he says, there's you know, we have some sexual tension. He's like, okay, okay, Eddie, He's.

I had to like say, so Eddie, Andy's books kind of going around and he says, there's you know, we have some sexual tension. He's like, okay, okay, Eddie, He's.

Like, okay, whatever. Totally get it. Totally get it. So there was a little bit of back and forth about the rentas stuff. Yeah, and the reunion. First off, you said that after the Beverly.

Like, okay, whatever. Totally get it. Totally get it. So there was a little bit of back and forth about the rentas stuff. Yeah, and the reunion. First off, you said that after the Beverly.

Hills reunion, this most recent one, the one with Kathy Hilton and everybody, that you came home, you went on Twitter, you saw things and you thought there are some questions that I didn't ask.

Hills reunion, this most recent one, the one with Kathy Hilton and everybody, that you came home, you went on Twitter, you saw things and you thought there are some questions that I didn't ask.

Yeah, what are those questions? Well, I think that.

Yeah, what are those questions? Well, I think that.

I think that she went so hard about the Kathy Hilton situation and said equated it to getting can you know, to something I'm going to do with cancer, And there was just there was a level of intensity about her feeling about it. And I don't think that I on social media, but also in the room and on the show, I don't think that I got into that enough. And I wish that I had broken that down a little bit more, know.

I think that she went so hard about the Kathy Hilton situation and said equated it to getting can you know, to something I'm going to do with cancer, And there was just there was a level of intensity about her feeling about it. And I don't think that I on social media, but also in the room and on the show, I don't think that I got into that enough. And I wish that I had broken that down a little bit more, know.

What, I want to get into a little bit.

What, I want to get into a little bit.

Just from watching that reunion, and I know that people are gonna be like Tay, but like not one of those women sat up and comforted Kyle in that moment.

Just from watching that reunion, and I know that people are gonna be like Tay, but like not one of those women sat up and comforted Kyle in that moment.

I was the only one. Excuse me, I was the only one that hugged her.

I was the only one. Excuse me, I was the only one that hugged her.

I was stunned by that because she's sobbing while.

I was stunned by that because she's sobbing while.

We're trying to do a toast at the end of the season. I mean, it was she was unable to be coright. I was very I was stunned by that.

We're trying to do a toast at the end of the season. I mean, it was she was unable to be coright. I was very I was stunned by that.

Is Kathy on Beggarly Hills this year.

Is Kathy on Beggarly Hills this year.

We are shooting right now, so she might we will see.

We are shooting right now, so she might we will see.

So when Renna texted that she was leaving, and then she.

So when Renna texted that she was leaving, and then she.

Texted that night saying I'm quitting the show. I was in this hotel when I.

Texted that night saying I'm quitting the show. I was in this hotel when I.

Got to talk about her excitement for going back.

Got to talk about her excitement for going back.

Well, I mean that, I said.

Well, I mean that, I said.

I Then I think I say in the book that sometimes if someone quits, they you don't know if maybe they'll change their mind.

I Then I think I say in the book that sometimes if someone quits, they you don't know if maybe they'll change their mind.

I was going to quit my last reunion, Okay, I wanted to be the first one to quit.

I was going to quit my last reunion, Okay, I wanted to be the first one to quit.

I know, but you know, but.

I know, but you know, but.

I was coming from a mo I just got word that Simon had cancer and I didn't know that he was if he was going to live right, And I was just upside down with the season that I had. I was in a huge lawsuit, and I was thinking, in my head, is this even worth it?

I was coming from a mo I just got word that Simon had cancer and I didn't know that he was if he was going to live right, And I was just upside down with the season that I had. I was in a huge lawsuit, and I was thinking, in my head, is this even worth it?

I think it would.

I think it would.

I think it would be so dramatic and amazing if a housewife.

I think it would be so dramatic and amazing if a housewife.

At the end of a reunion said I have one more.

At the end of a reunion said I have one more.

Thing to say, and that's what I wanted to do. I was going to do that.

Thing to say, and that's what I wanted to do. I was going to do that.

If Rinna did that, Alex, really that would have That would have and then I got fired.

If Rinna did that, Alex, really that would have That would have and then I got fired.

That would have allowed.

That would have allowed.

Alex talked me out of he said, your your emotions are high.

Alex talked me out of he said, your your emotions are high.

How much does housewives actually take into consideration what's going on Twitter?

How much does housewives actually take into consideration what's going on Twitter?

Because I heard you say, like Housewives Twitter is a flawed representation of the total feeling.

Because I heard you say, like Housewives Twitter is a flawed representation of the total feeling.

Sometimes it's a good measure, but I would.

Sometimes it's a good measure, but I would.

Not they wanted me fired.

Not they wanted me fired.

It is listen, they probably wanted you fired many years and then they wanted me back. But yeah, exactly. So the answer is I think that you look.

It is listen, they probably wanted you fired many years and then they wanted me back. But yeah, exactly. So the answer is I think that you look.

I think Housewives Twitter is sometimes a good it's a real first of all, I always look at it.

I think Housewives Twitter is sometimes a good it's a real first of all, I always look at it.

I think it's interesting. But I think we listen, we do research after every season.

I think it's interesting. But I think we listen, we do research after every season.

We that are that is actual, like real focus groups and real research among a large pool of devoted Housewives viewers. And it's not no, and it's not you know, and it's not it's often very not representative. Now the polls and watch what Happens Live, which people think like the Jersey fans who support Teresa think that our polls are written and which is something that Joe's Aaron always thought. And I there's nothing in it for me to rig a pool.

We that are that is actual, like real focus groups and real research among a large pool of devoted Housewives viewers. And it's not no, and it's not you know, and it's not it's often very not representative. Now the polls and watch what Happens Live, which people think like the Jersey fans who support Teresa think that our polls are written and which is something that Joe's Aaron always thought. And I there's nothing in it for me to rig a pool.

I don't care what the result is.

I don't care what the result is.

I find that a lot of times the viewers are trying to embarrass the person it's sitting next to me. So I'll say who's the smartest on the show, and the person next to me, will not or if they love them so much, they will win.

I find that a lot of times the viewers are trying to embarrass the person it's sitting next to me. So I'll say who's the smartest on the show, and the person next to me, will not or if they love them so much, they will win.

But it's not represented.

But it's not represented.

You know, these polls, to me, are representative of people who vote on polls on watch what happens like. They're not even representative necessarily of the whole thing.

You know, these polls, to me, are representative of people who vote on polls on watch what happens like. They're not even representative necessarily of the whole thing.

And how much do you take to heart when you go on to Twitter and you're like, because you reference a couple of times, yeah, look like this person's coming at me for this or.

And how much do you take to heart when you go on to Twitter and you're like, because you reference a couple of times, yeah, look like this person's coming at me for this or.

This is the basis you said you don't talk about politics because of the fact sometimes.

This is the basis you said you don't talk about politics because of the fact sometimes.

Yes, sometimes, but sometimes I do a lot also, But I think, look, my biggest advice that I always tell the housewives is don't look at Twitter.

Yes, sometimes, but sometimes I do a lot also, But I think, look, my biggest advice that I always tell the housewives is don't look at Twitter.

It's it's not one day.

It's it's not one day.

I remember Chanelle on the premiere night of Dubai. I said, listen, don't look at Twitter. They're gonna love you right now. But I'm telling you, you could say something stupid in three weeks and people are going to be after you. And so the answer is I take it all with a grain of salt. Sometimes if something there was something that happened with Garcel at the last Beverly Hills reunion where I kind of left her hanging there and it was and I was really like I was thrown.

I remember Chanelle on the premiere night of Dubai. I said, listen, don't look at Twitter. They're gonna love you right now. But I'm telling you, you could say something stupid in three weeks and people are going to be after you. And so the answer is I take it all with a grain of salt. Sometimes if something there was something that happened with Garcel at the last Beverly Hills reunion where I kind of left her hanging there and it was and I was really like I was thrown.

Well hold on, I do actually, but.

Well hold on, I do actually, but.

But I was really like flumbayed on Twitter for it, and I I get it, but like, it gets so hot on Twitter that sometimes you really.

But I was really like flumbayed on Twitter for it, and I I get it, but like, it gets so hot on Twitter that sometimes you really.

Do need to step away and say, okay, let me like you know.

Do need to step away and say, okay, let me like you know.

It can it so sometimes it can get under your skin, as I'm sure we all would.

It can it so sometimes it can get under your skin, as I'm sure we all would.

Also depends on your mood, Like I am in a good mood.

Also depends on your mood, Like I am in a good mood.

But the incredible thing is when you put the Twitter down, it goes away.

But the incredible thing is when you put the Twitter down, it goes away.

It goes away.

It goes away.

Yes, it doesn't exist.

Yes, it doesn't exist.

That's what it's like. The people that matter. I can breathe and Twitter hates me, but like I'm like, she's like the most hated housewife ever, most hated on Twitter. It's actually sad.

That's what it's like. The people that matter. I can breathe and Twitter hates me, but like I'm like, she's like the most hated housewife ever, most hated on Twitter. It's actually sad.

I don't understand it.

I don't understand it.

I've been crying all day no that it can get. It can get.

I've been crying all day no that it can get. It can get.

I personally don't.

I personally don't.

But now, to be honest, when I got fired, I was sad about the amount of hate that I got. And then now I actually take pride in it. I'm like, you know what, you guys take this much energy.

But now, to be honest, when I got fired, I was sad about the amount of hate that I got. And then now I actually take pride in it. I'm like, you know what, you guys take this much energy.

To well, listen, I hated it. Show me that I got booed at.

To well, listen, I hated it. Show me that I got booed at.

I thought that was big but low, and I thought the way that she owned it to use her term absolutely not only did she flip them off, she then did press and I was saying to her, pr I go, don't make her do press.

I thought that was big but low, and I thought the way that she owned it to use her term absolutely not only did she flip them off, she then did press and I was saying to her, pr I go, don't make her do press.

I said, this is.

I said, this is.

Like, don't make her do this. Yes, and then she wanted to. She went out there and she.

Like, don't make her do this. Yes, and then she wanted to. She went out there and she.

Was like, you know what, I've never been booed.

Was like, you know what, I've never been booed.

It was kind of amazing. It was kind it.

It was kind of amazing. It was kind it.

Was so cool.

Was so cool.

Is run on pause?

Is run on pause?

Well, I think if you asked her, she says, she's not.

Well, I think if you asked her, she says, she's not.

I like the idea, but she was like she released some kind of statement through her manager saying I fulfilled my contract.

I like the idea, but she was like she released some kind of statement through her manager saying I fulfilled my contract.

It's over you whatever.

It's over you whatever.

And after you're off, there's so many emotions that you know, and she judge her like you you me, and you talked afterwards. Well maybe tamor the networks might be a little mad at you because you've done a lot of interviews. I'm like, you know, I'm just trying to get through this process because it's like looks.

And after you're off, there's so many emotions that you know, and she judge her like you you me, and you talked afterwards. Well maybe tamor the networks might be a little mad at you because you've done a lot of interviews. I'm like, you know, I'm just trying to get through this process because it's like looks.

I called her before the book came out and I said, I'm sending you my book. I want you to know that I say in the book that you quit, because no one that wasn't out there. I said, I just want you to know, like this is in there. And she and I, she and I were talking about She said, you know, that was a tough year for me last year. We talked about it, and so I know that when you exit, however you exit, it's a it's a process, especially after eight years, and it's such an intense experience being part of this.

I called her before the book came out and I said, I'm sending you my book. I want you to know that I say in the book that you quit, because no one that wasn't out there. I said, I just want you to know, like this is in there. And she and I, she and I were talking about She said, you know, that was a tough year for me last year. We talked about it, and so I know that when you exit, however you exit, it's a it's a process, especially after eight years, and it's such an intense experience being part of this.

Yeah, and for sure.

Yeah, and for sure.

So speaking of exiting, so BH had a storyline that was Sensor about Adrian surrogate. Yes, so, which leads me to ask two questions. One, why was Mary allowed to come back? And was LVP fired?

So speaking of exiting, so BH had a storyline that was Sensor about Adrian surrogate. Yes, so, which leads me to ask two questions. One, why was Mary allowed to come back? And was LVP fired?

LVP was not fired. She didn't want to come back, and she didn't show up at the reuni.

LVP was not fired. She didn't want to come back, and she didn't show up at the reuni.

I mean she would have wanted to come back, Like, what is your stipulation.

I mean she would have wanted to come back, Like, what is your stipulation.

For I think that if you don't show up at a reunion, typically you certainly, yes, now.

For I think that if you don't show up at a reunion, typically you certainly, yes, now.

We have shot with Mary Moore.

We have shot with Mary Moore.

I think that you at minimum you take a season off if you're not going to show up at a reunion. Okay, So I think after you sit it out for a season, there's certainly a conversation to be here.

I think that you at minimum you take a season off if you're not going to show up at a reunion. Okay, So I think after you sit it out for a season, there's certainly a conversation to be here.

And regarding the Adrian maloof thing.

And regarding the Adrian maloof thing.

That was a long time ago, and I think I don't There was some agreement and it's so wild that of course if you try to hide anything, it'll come up. But there was some agreement that wouldn't be made anymore where it was. She said, this can never come up, and then somehow it came up, of course, and we would.

That was a long time ago, and I think I don't There was some agreement and it's so wild that of course if you try to hide anything, it'll come up. But there was some agreement that wouldn't be made anymore where it was. She said, this can never come up, and then somehow it came up, of course, and we would.

And look, that was a lesson for us because.

And look, that was a lesson for us because.

We tried to put something in my agreement when I first started. Of course you did, and they were like, go kick rocks.

We tried to put something in my agreement when I first started. Of course you did, and they were like, go kick rocks.

There was an Orange County housewife who left the show because she wanted something in her deal or contract. She wanted us to say, this will never come up. And by the way, we wanted her to come back on the show. And we then we said we won't put this in the deal. And that was it.

There was an Orange County housewife who left the show because she wanted something in her deal or contract. She wanted us to say, this will never come up. And by the way, we wanted her to come back on the show. And we then we said we won't put this in the deal. And that was it.

You guys, so let's let's think, because.

You guys, so let's let's think, because.

You're never going to be able to figure this out.

You're never going to be able to figure this out.

Lydia, I'm you're not going to say no, but I will say that my last voicemail from any housewife is Mary Cosby.

Lydia, I'm you're not going to say no, but I will say that my last voicemail from any housewife is Mary Cosby.

You're kidding me.

You're kidding me.

She left me a voicemail.

She left me a voicemail.

Yeah, interesting, I love you, Tama, thank you, because I just everyone said I'll send her a message saying.

Yeah, interesting, I love you, Tama, thank you, because I just everyone said I'll send her a message saying.

How are you doing?

How are you doing?

Really nice? I do too, How are you?

Really nice? I do too, How are you?

How is filming going on? You're doing great?

How is filming going on? You're doing great?

I love you, Tamra.

I love you, Tamra.

That's nice.

That's nice.

God bless you, she said me like two voice smails.

God bless you, she said me like two voice smails.

To get into Jersey a bit.

To get into Jersey a bit.

Yes, wait, but you mentioned about Snookie.

Yes, wait, but you mentioned about Snookie.

Yeah, right, never offered a new Jersey role, would never really consider it.

Yeah, right, never offered a new Jersey role, would never really consider it.

Is it because she was on.

Is it because she was on.

Another It just seems like no, I mean, I'm sorry, another reality she.

Another It just seems like no, I mean, I'm sorry, another reality she.

Is. She's the face of Jersey Shore, which is a huge MTV show. It just seemed a little jumpy to me or weird. So I don't know, but you know, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. It just seem weird. But it was very blown out of proportion.

Is. She's the face of Jersey Shore, which is a huge MTV show. It just seemed a little jumpy to me or weird. So I don't know, but you know, maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. It just seem weird. But it was very blown out of proportion.

And then you talk a good amount about Caroline Manzo in the book and how you have the conversations Theresa about her coming back not coming back. Obviously she didn't, she probably never will now at this point. But do you think there's anybody core from Jersey that you would want to bring back to try to fix all this?

And then you talk a good amount about Caroline Manzo in the book and how you have the conversations Theresa about her coming back not coming back. Obviously she didn't, she probably never will now at this point. But do you think there's anybody core from Jersey that you would want to bring back to try to fix all this?

Like?

Like?

Well, I mean, I don't know, I mean fix I mean it's I mean, the show's doing.

Well, I mean, I don't know, I mean fix I mean it's I mean, the show's doing.

Rather well right now.

Rather well right now.

Fix the relationships.

Fix the relationships.

No, I know.

No, I know.

Look, I don't think Jacqueline lives in Vegas.

Look, I don't think Jacqueline lives in Vegas.

She lives in Orange County.

She lives in Orange County.

Soon well there you go, and Dina lives in California, wants nothing to do with There you go, and Caroline is out.

Soon well there you go, and Dina lives in California, wants nothing to do with There you go, and Caroline is out.

So I don't know who from the past it would be.

So I don't know who from the past it would be.

And you said no to what is it when you do a wedding? You said no to officiating the wedding.

And you said no to what is it when you do a wedding? You said no to officiating the wedding.

Was that because you weren't available you were going to that other event that you talked about in the book, or was it because of your feelings towards Louis.

Was that because you weren't available you were going to that other event that you talked about in the book, or was it because of your feelings towards Louis.

No, it was not. It was not. It had nothing to do with Louis or Teresa.

No, it was not. It was not. It had nothing to do with Louis or Teresa.

It was I was there was.

It was I was there was.

The realm its boundaries. But it's also in the realm of.

The realm its boundaries. But it's also in the realm of.

You're opening a can of worms, because now am I then when someone when another housewived that I've known for a long time?

You're opening a can of worms, because now am I then when someone when another housewived that I've known for a long time?

You know, it's like, so when you.

You know, it's like, so when you.

Follow the housewives, I don't follow anybody, right, Yes.

Follow the housewives, I don't follow anybody, right, Yes.

Yeah, you can't.

Yeah, you can't.

It's just like, so you were obviously invited to Teresa's wedding.

It's just like, so you were obviously invited to Teresa's wedding.

I did.

I did.

I wound up in Montana at John Mayer's house that weekend, right, even.

I wound up in Montana at John Mayer's house that weekend, right, even.

So, it's almost like showing favoritism.

So, it's almost like showing favoritism.

Yeah, I mean I heard that at some point.

Yeah, I mean I heard that at some point.

Though.

Though.

Look, I've known you for so long.

Look, I've known you for so long.

I think that people have to understand that there are people who you've been in business with for a very long time. It's why, you know, I have a soft spot for Luanne and I went to her Jose you know party last summer in the Hamptons. But also it's in the Hamptons. It meant something to her.

I think that people have to understand that there are people who you've been in business with for a very long time. It's why, you know, I have a soft spot for Luanne and I went to her Jose you know party last summer in the Hamptons. But also it's in the Hamptons. It meant something to her.

I've known this woman for thirteen fifteen years, you know.

I've known this woman for thirteen fifteen years, you know.

So that's hard.

So that's hard.

That's the hard position. It is hard, really hard.

That's the hard position. It is hard, really hard.

Well, I can say that we just finished watching Jersey and we like, I mean, season Jersey was off the Hill was Yeah, No, I had all the emotions. I really felt emotional, which a lot of the times I can kind of disconnect from it. But for whatever reason, between those two and for those four, it felt really intense to me.

Well, I can say that we just finished watching Jersey and we like, I mean, season Jersey was off the Hill was Yeah, No, I had all the emotions. I really felt emotional, which a lot of the times I can kind of disconnect from it. But for whatever reason, between those two and for those four, it felt really intense to me.

I mean, when it comes to family like that, I know that that's the tough part.

I mean, when it comes to family like that, I know that that's the tough part.

Really really tough. It's gonna be a tough decision on your guys's part.

Really really tough. It's gonna be a tough decision on your guys's part.

Should we ask about New York and the leakiest You said that the leakiest cast.

Should we ask about New York and the leakiest You said that the leakiest cast.

We were oh, yeah, well there. I mean, they've got page six on speed dial. And I was in can and I ran into this page six reporter. I go, let me guess, let me guess who you get the most calls from.

We were oh, yeah, well there. I mean, they've got page six on speed dial. And I was in can and I ran into this page six reporter. I go, let me guess, let me guess who you get the most calls from.

And I nailed it. And I'm not going to sell them out. And there are all people who say I never.

And I nailed it. And I'm not going to sell them out. And there are all people who say I never.

I never never sounds like tune.

I never never sounds like tune.

It's I mean, look listen, and it's not necessarily.

It's I mean, look listen, and it's not necessarily.

Oh really, yeah, no, I know.

Oh really, yeah, no, I know.

I don't ever understand leaking something like a storyline or leaking things that are relevant to the show.

I don't ever understand leaking something like a storyline or leaking things that are relevant to the show.

How does that help you?

How does that help you?

It doesn't.

It doesn't.

I mean, I it bums me out because you want everything to play out on the show. That's why I love watching Succession. I don't know what's gonna happen.

I mean, I it bums me out because you want everything to play out on the show. That's why I love watching Succession. I don't know what's gonna happen.

Happen.

Happen.

Well, Orange County we made a pack where like, let's not do it.

Well, Orange County we made a pack where like, let's not do it.

I love that you all did great, and that's why people are like, it must not be good.

I love that you all did great, and that's why people are like, it must not be good.

It is this. I love it, and I love it that you made that pack. Yeah, I'm proud of you.

It is this. I love it, and I love it that you made that pack. Yeah, I'm proud of you.

It's not really very well.

It's not really very well.

And also the group texting, which I think creates because then you'd create this like bond.

And also the group texting, which I think creates because then you'd create this like bond.

That we do have a group text.

That we do have a group text.

Not everybody gets along, but we all are very cordial in the group text.

Not everybody gets along, but we all are very cordial in the group text.

I Atta I think has one.

I Atta I think has one.

For the show is I'm so bummed about Drew.

For the show is I'm so bummed about Drew.

I love Drew so much and we just watched, you know, the Atlanta premiere.

I love Drew so much and we just watched, you know, the Atlanta premiere.

And Kim Zulziac.

And Kim Zulziac.

Have you talked to the texted? Are you know?

Have you talked to the texted? Are you know?

There's there are many clips of me on reunion saying, Kim, are you saving your money?

There's there are many clips of me on reunion saying, Kim, are you saving your money?

Kim? Are you saving your money? Because they really spent, you know, they really used to spend.

Kim? Are you saving your money? Because they really spent, you know, they really used to spend.

But he seemed like he was a pretty good hands on dad, like even on what Don't be Tardy? Yeah, like she he always seemed like a good guy and now it's getting ugly. Do you think that relationships when they end are just so magnified in the public.

But he seemed like he was a pretty good hands on dad, like even on what Don't be Tardy? Yeah, like she he always seemed like a good guy and now it's getting ugly. Do you think that relationships when they end are just so magnified in the public.

I art, Yeah, they're not a reality show anymore, and I think it's really what you make of it.

I art, Yeah, they're not a reality show anymore, and I think it's really what you make of it.

But I think in general.

But I think in general.

You see a lot of housewives that as you are on the show, you're obviously your salary gets higher and higher that I watch them and they're dripped in you know, Louisvuitton and Gucci, and I.

You see a lot of housewives that as you are on the show, you're obviously your salary gets higher and higher that I watch them and they're dripped in you know, Louisvuitton and Gucci, and I.

Keep thinking, what are you doing with your money.

Keep thinking, what are you doing with your money.

I personally, and this is where Vicky and I bond so much about is I would rather look like the poorest housewife and the entire show than to look like the richest one because I want my money in the bank, I want my money in investments.

I personally, and this is where Vicky and I bond so much about is I would rather look like the poorest housewife and the entire show than to look like the richest one because I want my money in the bank, I want my money in investments.

I don't want anybody to know what's going on financially with me because call me poor.

I don't want anybody to know what's going on financially with me because call me poor.

I don't care.

I don't care.

Yes, I'm good with this is a bad outfit. I'm a good I just the way the girls dress on the show now.

Yes, I'm good with this is a bad outfit. I'm a good I just the way the girls dress on the show now.

Is it's it's over the time being said, there's a moment where you talk about housewives fake labels.

Is it's it's over the time being said, there's a moment where you talk about housewives fake labels.

Yes, okay, so maybe you do care what they but.

Yes, okay, so maybe you do care what they but.

No, it's fake fake.

No, it's fake fake.

I feel like, if you know, it's very easy to buy fake labels these days, and I know there's a lot of housewives. There's actually an instagram that calls out the housewives that wear the.

I feel like, if you know, it's very easy to buy fake labels these days, and I know there's a lot of housewives. There's actually an instagram that calls out the housewives that wear the.