Two teas in a pod which Teddy Meloncamps and camera Jedge. Hi, guys, welcome to two cheese and a pod with myself, Teddy Meloncamp and camera Judge. Good morning, Teddy, Good morning Sunshine. How are you, sweetie? You know, just finished up binge watching some Beverly Hills and Dubai and I know I literally watched it last night, but I was like not in the mood to watch. So you know how when you scroll and watch, you can't do that when you have a podcast, you can't scroll and watch TV because you don't get you know, well, I mean perfectly, this perfectly sums up my research. This is my Beverly Hills notes. These are my Dubai heard this bag. I didn't even treat I did not even take any for Dubai because Dubai. The only thing I liked about it was the last five minutes um, which we'll get into it. And we also, I'm sorry, I watch What Happens Live because that was a situation. So do you want to start It's it's your choice today. Would you rather start with Dubai or Beverly Hills. Let's just go under Beverly Hills, all right, but why not? I mean not, I mean, I know, what's your favorite? I mean, how many more episodes? Like twenty a hundred and sixty four episodes? Isn't it brutal to have to recap your year old show? I mean, I guess it's less brutal than having to watch Dubai. Yeah, but I think it's hard when you're you know, you're friends with people that are on the show, and then you have to you know, call them out. But I'm sure they all understand. Well. I think the thing that I can, I can kind of live with here is that, yes, when I'm watching the show, I do have certain ways that I feel about certain people, and that that is of course going to play into it. But I think I also can at least be objective on seeing what the audience is seeing as well and understanding that people aren't necessarily going to agree with me. Um, which brings us right into the episode where it starts out or at Lisa tells Sutton that Diana does not have the same takeaway from their conversation at Garcela's party as Sutton. Sutton had the idea that they hugged it out and it ended on a good note it did not end on a good note. But I think that Sutton's hopeful Diana is so hard to read well. I think the problem is is Diana is not necessarily likable. Granted, one of our producers really likes watching her um, but most of the audience is choosing to no matter what Sutton does. Sutton is crushing it so because of that. But you know how that works. It's like, it's the one that's going to cry and the one that's going to be like, but I just wanted to work. No matter what they've done it, no matter what they've said, no matter horrible things they've done, peep the audience feel sorry for them. I call that the Shannon syndrome. But I don't know. I think where I'm struggling a little bit as how Sutton could have possibly thought that conversation went well. Diana is blatantly mocking her in the middle of the conversation, and prior to that, sudden approaches Diana and accuses her of not necessarily really being needing to be on bedrest. So I definitely see both sides. I see they both did the same thing to one another in regards to a miscarriage but Sutton has honestly punched somebody in the face, and people will be like, yes, Sutton and Diana, I know, you know why. It's because of that Southern sweet She could say something so sharp and so mean and have a little acts and her smile on her face and and people buy it. Well, it's not helping us that Diana has so much money and she can't even wear a hat that's fitting paraly I know, I know, Like, don't you feel like they are so polar opposite, Like they're both kind of like I look at them and I'm like, I don't know if I love you or I hate you. Well, I think Sutton has what's going on is she has this level of delusion that if you say you're sorry and you hug it out at the end, things are good. When the hug was like this, the hug like stiff as a board, trying to push her off. I mean, Diana even went blah blah blah bang blue eyes and sons like they're green, Like there was no there was no warmness, no nothing. But I think from the beginning those two did not have a connection. They weren't going to hit it off. It started with you know from the very start, and it's now just continue And once Sutton realized what she did to Diana at the beginning of the conversation, then she tried to flip it. And now here we are and we're trying to pretend everything is good, which is very similar to the Crystal situation. Crystal wasn't much in this episode either. Huh no, but she's in for the scenes for next week. Okay, was she out of town? She was here? She was Okay, Um, yeah, it gets more brutal, but Garth, then you know, we're still at Sutton's. Garcel tells Kyle that she jumped ship. Kyle doesn't feel she does this and says she doesn't have problems with anybody. Okay, I'm confused. What does jump ship mean? Well, I didn't really understand what jump ship meant until she said, Kyle, she just wants you to be neutral. Yeah, I understand that, But jumping ship isn't it means you're like getting away from the situation. Doesn't she mean she's been on board? I think what she means is she won't ever just let somebody. You know, that's that she's close with protecting her and jumping in when she shouldn't. But I don't know if that's the right word. I might be wrong, but I don't know. The jump ship was correct, but I never what Garcella was saying didn't necessarily make sense to me until Shari said that, Um who Sharia is a fan favorite already. I love her, um love her. I love her. I also want to point out, though, when you are doing when you're on, people are loving you. People are loving you. And then even if you're only in there for two you know, Zinger lines the entire episode like we haven't seen the talking head from Shariat. True, but people are loving her because she's the voice of reason. And however, I want you to imagine if Kyle or Renna or pretty much anybody else would have said when Erica apologized, and it would have said, well, I want to your son too, I know, right, I know that would have gone down. Well, thank god, he's in his thirties. It's not like he's a fourteen year old or sixteen year old, right, But I want you to imagine everybody laughed at it because they were having fun and it was a joke. But I want you to imagine if one of the Foxforce four. But you know what, the way that Erica said it, it was a little invasive and saying like, hey, let's I mean, she had details like let's have a threesome. I know Erica when Erica said it wrong, wrong, wrong, But I'm saying if in that moment after the apology, Yeah, if Kyle would have responded with that, or if Renna or to read or a. So you think ourselve would get mad if if anybody else had that response. I don't know if she would have gotten mad, but I don't know that it would have been a laugh. Yeah, everybody's taking things. I thought it was funny when she said it. Of course I thought it was funny too, But I want you guys, that's just food for thought, okay, okay, um. I thought it was a little bit. I mean, Garcella was on point in her confessionals when she talks about how many drinks Erica has had, and she's like, I never paid attention to how many three I know, you know, I'm kind of with Kyle on this one. To call somebody an alcoholic or have alcoholism, those are pretty strong words. So I would have been kind of the same, like has she been drinking for years. No, she's going through a tough time. That's how she's dealing with it. Am I saying it's right? No, And to say like, oh, well I'm taking meds and drinking, well, first of all, you're not supposed to drink. When you take meds, you're not helping yourself out. But it also I wish she wouldn't say med's It makes it seem like it's like fitnal she's talking about like an antidepressant. I don't know. I don't, I don't really, I mean, but I don't really think much about that. But I think that the Kyle was very open about the medication she takes for anxiety, and I thought that was pretty brave. I thought that was brave too. And I think it's hard to accuse somebody on a television show of being an alcoholic. Yes, I mean, it's one thing to say you drink too much. It's another thing to give them a label like that. Already after two times, granted the two times have been dramatic that there's probably going to be more this season, but two times, and how many years has she been on? Eight seasons or whatever? It is? Like, I mean, yeah, I mean, not that we're making excuses for her by any means, but I don't know. I just feel like those are that's like saying somebody is psychotic. Jesus jugs. But I do wish you wouldn't have come in and said how many drinks she was gonna have, because then it makes it weird, like just have your drinks, just drink, be an asshole again, have your drinks, or don't like drinking and set somebody else. Yeah, that's fine. It's probably happening next week, as we saw in the scenes. But um, yeah, it is what it is. Um, But do you think there was resolution between Erica and garcell? Garcella says, Erica earned a point in my book because she complimented me on being a mother. And but the wild thing about watching housewives is even though there is a little bit of a resolution between eric and Garcell, anybody watching is not going to see that, right, and so the hate is going to be just as much. Um, So I think it's a little bit tough. Better episode for Kyle, better episode for Kyle. Um. Kyle has Hanukah with Dret. That's a really touching moment, and Deret's little son was so cute. Deret's kids are so cute, by the way, Happy birthday to its street's birthday. Happy birthday dat uh but so smart, so smart, has so much information there there And I mean, those kids, they are hilarious, They're so cute. Um. I normally don't really, I don't watch house live shows to watch kids normally, honest with you, I really don't. I mean, but that was a really cute saying. I thought, how about And then there was like that awkward moment at Hanukah where Maria's dad walks in and they go to hug and kiss and she accidentally out the lips and she's like, oh like she was all like frazzled. There is nothing more awkward that. Well, I don't understand. I wish we could just like make some kind of like hand gesture if you're gonna do one kiss or two the COVID times don't do we still have to kiss like that. I'm not like a kissing person. Eddie has a fun well unless I'm drunk, and it's girls, it's girls. But so Eddie has a friend that kisses he's he's from a different country like that. They do that other places. I don't want to say where because then he'll know it's but he kisses, and you know, it's one of those awkward things when you go to side to side and he goes the wrong side, and then you kiss him on the lips and then he's like, what do you kiss him on the leg? Go I it's not me. I'm telling you it's not me. I don't it's like long hugs. I don't want to be kissing on the lips and I don't want long hugs from so I don't like to be touched. Yeah, I'm not I'm not really interested. I'm okay with a hand holding. I guess hand holding. I guess who it's from. Well, I mean have one, but like I know, I thought you meant like you know a stranger, what are your what are your friends friends? Husband's take? And I hold your hands? Oh no, like under the table, that's not under the table. I'm a red legs, just a little Diane. I gotta I gotta talk about this because she's just she's getting on my nerves. As soon as they start filming in her house and she has to say, oh, the Kashmir sweater, and like she's always throwing money, name brands and to everything, and it just bugs me so bad. But I will say her son adorable. I didn't realize maybe I didn't pay attention. Has he filmed before? Her son and her daughter so cute? But my question is did the father raise them? I read that online, but I don't know. I don't know talk well. She actually kind of insinuates that in that scene. She did insinuate that. I do know that she had that apartment and partied there, and her kids lived in a different place, but I I really don't know, so I don't want to speak out of turn. Um. Did you know that Diana's sons girlfriend is the daughter of Damon Dash and Rachel roy Um? You can tell they all like each other and they like being around each other. But I don't. I don't understand the magnitude of it. But also the biggest thing I'm getting from Diana is she doesn't want to engage really in anything. And then I agree, But I also the only thing I'm getting from her is her she's got a lip problem. I think her lips are too chopped. Well, she can't talk to her licking her lips. I did spend a lot of time researching why this could be, and I really think it's a nervous tech and that's her tell. Like my tell is that my chest is going to get bright red right Like whenever I have to like have a conversation, I don't want to have her. I'm on camera and things are awkward at the same as my daughter. The same thing is like if that's why I'm obsessed with the spray tan, but I think hers is this, but it's gotten to the point. I don't know if it's editing, but it seems like it's happening every two seconds. I know that's what I'm saying. I can't even listen to what she's saying because I'm concentrating on her licking her lips. Well, I'm concentrating on her confessional look where she has like the hair that's like okay, wait wait. I had to pause that only because I was so confused on what was going on there. I don't know, I think, I mean, I don't even know, Like it was like a curl than a fool was supposed to be like a Marilyn Monroe thing. This is the problem with Beverly Hills, and I myself felt probably it was a problematic situation for me. Some of the girls are so interested in style and so interested in looks that then all of a sudden us regulars feel the need to try to level up. Like the one time I clipped in Banks and it is I need a picture of you with Clipton Banks. You the first Thankfully we changed it after the first confessional, Like you know how, we do four confessionals per look. The first one was so bad, Laura and I still cry laughing because it honestly was just like this, I need do you have a picture? Yeah? I mean it was so bad and we were like, professionals are hard, especially when you're trying to elevate yourself to everybody else. I'm not especially happy with my confessional look on Ultimate Girl's Trip with the charl look, because the one with the brown I think that's you look gorgeous in that well, I just felt like because the camera cut me off right here, it just looked like I have this like helmet on it because my hair was really long. No, I think you looked amazing. If somebody wants to worry about a look, it's Taylor with the like the first vest I'm confused. It's I've got some of some of my earlier ones. Back in the day where we didn't have any client. I think we did our own makeup in the beginning. Yeah, well, I mean that's what vanderpump Wool still does their own makeup for confessionals. They probably cause they choose to no. No, they I mean as of a couple of years ago, they still did their own gland. Wow, it looked good, but they're also so young. They're young. They learned from YouTube tutorials. It's not like me where I can't figure it out. I have an SPF tent on right now. Okay. It was definitely a little bit shady how they have Erica coming during the part where Diana is donating her clothes, Oh my god. And I love when she goes and her confessional she goes, I'm not broke, like broke, like broke broke. I'm not broke broke. Oh my god, girl, you're better off just saying I'm broke, just hand broke. Rank everybody what they tell everybody what they want to hear, right, But I mean it was it was pretty funny. Uh but once again, you don't really see the connection between Diana and anybody. I know. It's just so weird. And you know, you never see Diana having fun. It's like she's zero emotion. Well, I think my guess is that Diana probably thought while filming, I'm crushing this. Yeah, like I have got this handled. I am worldly. I've gone to every big party there is. People are gonna love the lifestyle stories that I'm telling. But if you're not engaged with the group, nobody cares. Yeah, my best line out of the entire show. I always like to pick one good line. So you say that I know. So you say that I know when you were going back and forth with Diana and Sutton. So Sutton says something like um um, I love to the end or I'm a good friend, and then and Dinah goes, so you say, and then Sting goes and I know or so well you know or something like that that I know. That's what she said that I know. And they went back and forth like four times, And I'm thinking, I don't even know if they really went back and forth four times, that it was really like fancy editing. Well, my question is do you think they just both have never had anybody have a difference of opinion? Than them. So that's why they can't even have a regular I mean, it was so brutally awkward for me to watch that it was painful. I've even said, like I would have gotten up and walked out if it was me doing that. And then they but you know what, those two girls are exactly alike, but total opposites. Their extremes the opposite. So that that's my point. I think what they are doing to each other is the exact same thing. And this isn't for anybody that has reached out. This isn't my bias or how I feel about Sutton. I have no ties to Diana. I've met her one time. Um, I just feel like they both behave the same way, but they have a slightly different delivery. They're both kind of but they're mean. They say mean things. When Diana sitting there and going are you all right? Are you all right? And she's doing the crazy sign, I'm like, oh, I think I would have thrown my glass of water or wine or whatever I was drinking at her. Now. It was dirty, it was the whole thing was not the best. I didn't think this was their best episode, but then they panned to you know, next week where they show Kathy and I'm excited for that. Well, Kathy trended last night, Kathy trended, and so we'll have to see. I mean, I think people are hoping that there's gonna be a whole new set of drama, and I think we just have to kind of wait and see. Yeah, but hopefully. Yeah, we gotta breathe through fan thoughts here. All right, go ahead, Danna needs to stop licking her lips. Oh my god, I think that's what everybody's talking about, just licking the lips and licking the lips like. I don't think she's going to stop. I don't think she's gonna stop. Um. A lot of questions comments about our Diana's lips overly dry, hundreds of comments on yeah, I'm sure she's going to get like a good a sponsor with chopstick or something. Max, Uh, can we give Sharie Diana's diamond. I think that's gonna happen. I definitely think that. I think next year. I feel like there's gonna be a little bit of a revamp next year. Yeah, I do too. And I do think that Diana is going to walk away on her own. Oh, I do too. I mean, I don't know that she necessarily would have been asked back, but I feel yeah, I wouldn't even be surprised if she didn't show up to the reunion. Oh, you're right, Yeah, like you she doesn't need the money. Yeah, well, she's not really into the drama. She's not into the drama. She's creating her own drama because she's so unaware. Yeah. Eric has definitely used alcohol for a coping mechanism. We all know that. That's that's a no brainer. Which I think there is a difference between going through a rough time and drinking some alcohol to alcoholism. I'm not making excuses for her, but I have definitely had times in my life where I am drinking too much. That doesn't make your alcohol. Alcoholism is a disease, you don't, you know what I mean. So it's that's what I'm saying. They're strong words, they're strong words, and you know it is Erica Kyle's too soft on Erica's behavior. I think she is too. But you know what, when it's your friend and your good friend and your friends on the show and off the show, you tend to do that. And when there's a big accusation coming out, you want you go into like Mama Bear mode where you want to protect the person from a huge accusation, especially if you're Kyle and you already got your you know, ass handed to you years before a season two with your sister. Like they did that flashback, they they lined it right up. It was a great flashback where she said, you know, I'm not going to make that mistake twice. And I think Erica is granted it took her too long, but she did apologize for her behavior. Okay, it just took her too long. I wish you. I wish they would have done something empire, but you have to also remember production. Sometimes we'll set it up in that awkward way. Remember Erica was late, it was all these everything was right for her, not just to come in immediately apologat uh Garcela should have talked to Erica one on one if she didn't want anyone in the combo. I said that last podcast. Um, I do think that conversation should have been one on one. I would have liked to see that one on one, But I think that ultimately goes to what I have been saying, which isn't about bias to friendships it's about watching the show as a person. I think you see what you want to see when you're watching the show. And I think Garcell and Sutton more than anyone else, are very aware of what the audience thinks and what's the audience wants to see, and they're playing up to that. So they know Erica's low hanging fruit. Yeah, so if you want the audience no, I mean, but you know who's easy to come after at this point? Yeah, Well, one fan did notice something that I did notice too, and think Goddart didn't notice it. Diana, poor champagne and a wine glass. The horror, I know. I mean, she needs to be fired just for that. How could she do such a thing, I know, especially with because she wants a bigger poor because you know, let's face it, champagne glasses only gives you a few ounces. I mean, I am glad for that time that I did learn which glass is used. But now I just refused to use any stemware. They're all like this or this. You know who's very stripped on that Eddie on stemware? Yes? Yes? Is he like that with forks too? I don't know about forks. I mean, I only have one set of forks in the house. So you don't have a salad fork, Yeah, I mean have the bigger one, the smaller one that is not a bother. But drinking like even his like he's kind of bougie, even like his Pellegrino or peria. He wanted in a big like red wine glass like in a goblet. Yeah, or as Johnny Depp would say, in a megaplant. And yes, but like even I have stemless ones and some of them are like um copper and different materials, and he won't drink out of this. He's like, m he wants the nice long stem glass. Okay, I mean he doesn't drink that much, but when he does, he's a goot to be fancy. Oh, no one else we need to talk about. In regards to Beverly Hills, Renna yesterday tweeted something oh shocker. So yesterday Renna tweeted some things and it says I shot a lovely breakfast scene with Sutton where she filled me in on what happened at Garcelves party. It's too bad they're not airing it so we can see both sides of the story. Then she tweeted twenty minutes after that, I wasn't at Garcelves party, so I can only go off what I was told. But the stories Diana and Sutton told me were entirely different, like watching two different movies, which I am curious. Why wouldn't they have shown Renna was Sutton. Maybe it was boring, I don't know, or maybe they just want people to keep loving Sutton. I don't know. I don't know, but clearly she didn't make that up. No, I would hope not. No, not. But production hates when you do ship like that. Well, production hates when you tweet stuff like that, not when you film. When you tweet that being especially when you're a long time housewife, they don't like it. She should know better than that. I think, like you know, like everything, you know, when you're filming, there's so many hours of stuff being filmed, like that scene and we'll we'll talk about it later on when Brandy gets on the scene with you know, me talking about Denise. That's not how it went down. Okay, all right, we're gonna get into that. There's so many hours of filming, and you know, and then you condense it. They have to get just enough in. But let's take a little break and we'll come back and we gotta blow through Dubai. Al Right, we are back, and I really hoped after last episode that Dubai was going to pick up. Mm hmm, it's I'm dragging. So how many episodes do we have to suffer through? I mean, we're to the point where, okay, it should be over soon because we're about at the wedding. We're almost at the wedding, which I feel like means we're almost done. Is the wedding the season finale? I don't know, but it seems like it would be. What else is it going to be? Brooks and her child to boarding school? Yeah, we're on episodes sick, We're only on I know, right, Oh my god, I can't. That's the only interesting scene I thought was the end about yeah talking with We'll get to that, but um, furniture shopping before. But her outfit killed me and I was there for it. Every second. She's always either like in feathers, she's so going to a store, like who dresses like that? Because she's trying to create a moment at all times, which brings me back to watch What Happens Live. Last night, Andy Cohen asked Nina and Brooks who the thirstiest was, and they both were like, Ion wants this moment every second that she can get. That being said, watch what Happens Live was as painful as the episode, if not worse, and he burned his hand on on Brooks's microphone, I mean on Brooks's uh curling iron? Why did she have her curling iron in the chair next to her? I don't know I did. First of all, I didn't watch it all. I only watched like the first like I don't know ten minutes of it, so I didn't see that part. But um, I just I couldn't. It was I just can't. I don't know what it is. I want to like it so much, but it's just not doing it for me. Um, yeah, not doing it for me. Standbury and Surgery arrived at the hotel their family leading up to their wedding day, Sergio talking about tiki Tiki night. Okay, that made me want to vomb in my mouth. A tiki tiki? Can we tik tiki at first time? Like? What is he talking about? Like? I thought they wanted to go to a restaurant, the Tiki Tiki Lounge? Well Edwin and I call s uh WICKI so, but he doesn't go like ticky ticky, but we have called it wicky wicky. Okay, but I did think I'm not a talker. I'm just a doer. Well, sometimes we text, well you have little kids, so sometimes he'll just be like wicky, question mark, that's good. Um, And then Nina invites everyone to high t Stanbury says she felt like feels like Lisa attacked her. Lisa says Stanbury's comment was inappropriate and a lot of people have warned her about Stanbury. They apologize at the end. Honestly, Okay, you know what bugged me the most. It's what somebody says, well, I like you regardless of what everybody's saying about you. That is such a mean thing to say, Like, don't say that. It's such a backhanded compliment. But I have to say, Sarah really bugged me this episode. How tell me how well? At the Global Citizens War, um Ion came came in to sit with her in the dressing room and just the white like Ion you could tell was teasing her about how perfect she was. And then she's like, yeah, I can't help just being great, right, I can't. I can't help that. In the best human of life. And and then if I sat at an at a charity event, everybody's like, stand up, now, make a pledge to me forever till the day you Like, it was like a cult. It was very weird to me. Granted you end up kind of forgiving her because then Brooks absolutely loses it at the end, but um right, it was right up there with Louise video. It was very especially when we haven't seen very much of Sarah and her child, but we get to. We also have the pool party where we originally are introduced to Brooks's best friend, who honestly tam if you ever spoke to me the way the Brooks spoke to her best friend on the show and then on watch What Happens Live last night, we would not be friends anymore. That was That was rough. That was rough. She's like, we're childhood friends. That's the way we talked to each other. I'm like, I don't even my sister and I don't even talk to each other, like well even at the dinner. We'll get to that. But the dinner they had together, they were talking about how she needs to pay more attention to her kids. Okay, so one thing that really bothered me and confused me is when she asked the housekeeper or I guess she's a housekeeper, to cut her son's meat and bring it over to her, especially after she said you want me to cut your meat for you and that that support. It's one thing to be like, hey, do you mind cutting his meat before you start, like if she's serving everybody, and that's but she tried to pretend that she did cut it so weird. And her son was so sweet, and I really liked him. I really like him, Like he's good to be, like, he's smiley, he's happy, he's cute. Yeah, And I the thing is, I don't necessarily know that she's the type of mom she's portraying she is on the show. I think she's trying to make good television, which kind of makes it worse. Well, clearly she's not, because her friends are calling her childhood friends are calling her out. Yeah, So then Sarah pretty she doesn't go to put her son to bed. And then Sarah's like, can I speak, you know, openly or whatever she says, and and put your own child to bed, and she's like, well, I don't need to. And then she's like you should be closer to him, and then the best friend times and yeah, but he found an opportunity to express himself and probably something he's been wanting to say for a long time. But then she kind of contradicted herself because she's like, I haven't even he was in the delivery room, she said at the pool party. But then then she's like, I haven't even seen him in five or six years. He doesn't even know us. And I'm like, okay, what, yes, it might have been on Watch What Happens Live, it's all blurring together because they just record them run right after another. But she absolutely loses it, and then she's kind of rude to him on Watch What Happens Live last night as well, and then she's like, you know, we have we have one of those interesting friendships. I mean you saw when he entered the door. I called him fuggly and Andy goes, sounds like a good friendship, interesting friendship. I have a friendship like that, though, but like with somebody, you know, like he'll call me, he's like, what's up as face, I'm like nothing, dick breath like that. That's how we talk each other, I think, asked face and Dick Breath are slightly different than Fuggly. Fuggly is ugly. Yeah, yeah, not not ideal, um yea, but yeah, I mean, but we didn't see we we got to see a little bit of what's to come with Caroline and her family and Sergio's family. The real scene stealer and this entire show to me is Caroline's daughter. She makes jokes and every single time died when she said something like see the next one, to see you at the next one. Give that girl her own show. I love her. She's so good, it's so funny. Because we're her kids were her kids in boarding school. I don't think her kids actually were in boarding school. From what I'm gathering, I don't think her kids are in boarding school because she's she's seems like she's against boarding school. But she's so stiff, so uptight. But her her kids are like so fun and you know, like they're not a product of their environment at all. I think she is probably more fun off camera, off any type of platform. I mean, granted, she was a little stiff on this podcast as well, but I feel like when she feels like people are judging her, Yeah, because we have d M back and forth, and she but she said to me, how do you deal with some of the hate that you get? And I said, I've learned to just start embracing it and just make jokes about it. I'm like you saw yesterday, I was getting pummeled about you know, my thoughts on the episode. Your word pummel just kills me. It is it's a pummeling when I don't know what pumble means. Pummeling was like, you're rolling over, okay, Like it's just it's a lot. I told you not to use big words around me, and actually pummeling counts. But when you're trending and you're no longer on a show, it's a pummeling. Okay. So um, But she said how do you deal with it? And I said, I just embrace it and I kind of push at the people that go for me because that's what makes me feel better. And she was like, oh, I guess that makes sense. Um, And I was like, you just have to own who you are, if that's who you are who you are. But about hearing that, Sergio as Parents offered to pay her off. Wow. Now, if she would have said that prior to her telling us she did not want to sit with them. I would understand then, Yeah, I wouldn't blame her. I wouldn't want to sit with them either. I mean, and how much should they want to pay her? I don't know? Can we get that information? Should? Can we ask her? I'm going to slide into her names and Walters, Teddy Walters is going to find out how much they wanted to pay her off, and our report back the next week's episode. But that's all the time we have for today. You guys, let us know your thoughts and the men, and we're gonna keep giving you our biased and unbiased opinions. Oh my god. All right bye

Two teas in a pod which Teddy Meloncamps and camera Jedge. Hi, guys, welcome to two cheese and a pod with myself, Teddy Meloncamp and camera Judge. Good morning, Teddy, Good morning Sunshine. How are you, sweetie? You know, just finished up binge watching some Beverly Hills and Dubai and I know I literally watched it last night, but I was like not in the mood to watch. So you know how when you scroll and watch, you can't do that when you have a podcast, you can't scroll and watch TV because you don't get you know, well, I mean perfectly, this perfectly sums up my research. This is my Beverly Hills notes. These are my Dubai heard this bag. I didn't even treat I did not even take any for Dubai because Dubai. The only thing I liked about it was the last five minutes um, which we'll get into it. And we also, I'm sorry, I watch What Happens Live because that was a situation. So do you want to start It's it's your choice today. Would you rather start with Dubai or Beverly Hills. Let's just go under Beverly Hills, all right, but why not? I mean not, I mean, I know, what's your favorite? I mean, how many more episodes? Like twenty a hundred and sixty four episodes? Isn't it brutal to have to recap your year old show? I mean, I guess it's less brutal than having to watch Dubai. Yeah, but I think it's hard when you're you know, you're friends with people that are on the show, and then you have to you know, call them out. But I'm sure they all understand. Well. I think the thing that I can, I can kind of live with here is that, yes, when I'm watching the show, I do have certain ways that I feel about certain people, and that that is of course going to play into it. But I think I also can at least be objective on seeing what the audience is seeing as well and understanding that people aren't necessarily going to agree with me. Um, which brings us right into the episode where it starts out or at Lisa tells Sutton that Diana does not have the same takeaway from their conversation at Garcela's party as Sutton. Sutton had the idea that they hugged it out and it ended on a good note it did not end on a good note. But I think that Sutton's hopeful Diana is so hard to read well. I think the problem is is Diana is not necessarily likable. Granted, one of our producers really likes watching her um, but most of the audience is choosing to no matter what Sutton does. Sutton is crushing it so because of that. But you know how that works. It's like, it's the one that's going to cry and the one that's going to be like, but I just wanted to work. No matter what they've done it, no matter what they've said, no matter horrible things they've done, peep the audience feel sorry for them. I call that the Shannon syndrome. But I don't know. I think where I'm struggling a little bit as how Sutton could have possibly thought that conversation went well. Diana is blatantly mocking her in the middle of the conversation, and prior to that, sudden approaches Diana and accuses her of not necessarily really being needing to be on bedrest. So I definitely see both sides. I see they both did the same thing to one another in regards to a miscarriage but Sutton has honestly punched somebody in the face, and people will be like, yes, Sutton and Diana, I know, you know why. It's because of that Southern sweet She could say something so sharp and so mean and have a little acts and her smile on her face and and people buy it. Well, it's not helping us that Diana has so much money and she can't even wear a hat that's fitting paraly I know, I know, Like, don't you feel like they are so polar opposite, Like they're both kind of like I look at them and I'm like, I don't know if I love you or I hate you. Well, I think Sutton has what's going on is she has this level of delusion that if you say you're sorry and you hug it out at the end, things are good. When the hug was like this, the hug like stiff as a board, trying to push her off. I mean, Diana even went blah blah blah bang blue eyes and sons like they're green, Like there was no there was no warmness, no nothing. But I think from the beginning those two did not have a connection. They weren't going to hit it off. It started with you know from the very start, and it's now just continue And once Sutton realized what she did to Diana at the beginning of the conversation, then she tried to flip it. And now here we are and we're trying to pretend everything is good, which is very similar to the Crystal situation. Crystal wasn't much in this episode either. Huh no, but she's in for the scenes for next week. Okay, was she out of town? She was here? She was Okay, Um, yeah, it gets more brutal, but Garth, then you know, we're still at Sutton's. Garcel tells Kyle that she jumped ship. Kyle doesn't feel she does this and says she doesn't have problems with anybody. Okay, I'm confused. What does jump ship mean? Well, I didn't really understand what jump ship meant until she said, Kyle, she just wants you to be neutral. Yeah, I understand that, But jumping ship isn't it means you're like getting away from the situation. Doesn't she mean she's been on board? I think what she means is she won't ever just let somebody. You know, that's that she's close with protecting her and jumping in when she shouldn't. But I don't know if that's the right word. I might be wrong, but I don't know. The jump ship was correct, but I never what Garcella was saying didn't necessarily make sense to me until Shari said that, Um who Sharia is a fan favorite already. I love her, um love her. I love her. I also want to point out, though, when you are doing when you're on, people are loving you. People are loving you. And then even if you're only in there for two you know, Zinger lines the entire episode like we haven't seen the talking head from Shariat. True, but people are loving her because she's the voice of reason. And however, I want you to imagine if Kyle or Renna or pretty much anybody else would have said when Erica apologized, and it would have said, well, I want to your son too, I know, right, I know that would have gone down. Well, thank god, he's in his thirties. It's not like he's a fourteen year old or sixteen year old, right, But I want you to imagine everybody laughed at it because they were having fun and it was a joke. But I want you to imagine if one of the Foxforce four. But you know what, the way that Erica said it, it was a little invasive and saying like, hey, let's I mean, she had details like let's have a threesome. I know Erica when Erica said it wrong, wrong, wrong, But I'm saying if in that moment after the apology, Yeah, if Kyle would have responded with that, or if Renna or to read or a. So you think ourselve would get mad if if anybody else had that response. I don't know if she would have gotten mad, but I don't know that it would have been a laugh. Yeah, everybody's taking things. I thought it was funny when she said it. Of course I thought it was funny too, But I want you guys, that's just food for thought, okay, okay, um. I thought it was a little bit. I mean, Garcella was on point in her confessionals when she talks about how many drinks Erica has had, and she's like, I never paid attention to how many three I know, you know, I'm kind of with Kyle on this one. To call somebody an alcoholic or have alcoholism, those are pretty strong words. So I would have been kind of the same, like has she been drinking for years. No, she's going through a tough time. That's how she's dealing with it. Am I saying it's right? No, And to say like, oh, well I'm taking meds and drinking, well, first of all, you're not supposed to drink. When you take meds, you're not helping yourself out. But it also I wish she wouldn't say med's It makes it seem like it's like fitnal she's talking about like an antidepressant. I don't know. I don't, I don't really, I mean, but I don't really think much about that. But I think that the Kyle was very open about the medication she takes for anxiety, and I thought that was pretty brave. I thought that was brave too. And I think it's hard to accuse somebody on a television show of being an alcoholic. Yes, I mean, it's one thing to say you drink too much. It's another thing to give them a label like that. Already after two times, granted the two times have been dramatic that there's probably going to be more this season, but two times, and how many years has she been on? Eight seasons or whatever? It is? Like, I mean, yeah, I mean, not that we're making excuses for her by any means, but I don't know. I just feel like those are that's like saying somebody is psychotic. Jesus jugs. But I do wish you wouldn't have come in and said how many drinks she was gonna have, because then it makes it weird, like just have your drinks, just drink, be an asshole again, have your drinks, or don't like drinking and set somebody else. Yeah, that's fine. It's probably happening next week, as we saw in the scenes. But um, yeah, it is what it is. Um, But do you think there was resolution between Erica and garcell? Garcella says, Erica earned a point in my book because she complimented me on being a mother. And but the wild thing about watching housewives is even though there is a little bit of a resolution between eric and Garcell, anybody watching is not going to see that, right, and so the hate is going to be just as much. Um, So I think it's a little bit tough. Better episode for Kyle, better episode for Kyle. Um. Kyle has Hanukah with Dret. That's a really touching moment, and Deret's little son was so cute. Deret's kids are so cute, by the way, Happy birthday to its street's birthday. Happy birthday dat uh but so smart, so smart, has so much information there there And I mean, those kids, they are hilarious, They're so cute. Um. I normally don't really, I don't watch house live shows to watch kids normally, honest with you, I really don't. I mean, but that was a really cute saying. I thought, how about And then there was like that awkward moment at Hanukah where Maria's dad walks in and they go to hug and kiss and she accidentally out the lips and she's like, oh like she was all like frazzled. There is nothing more awkward that. Well, I don't understand. I wish we could just like make some kind of like hand gesture if you're gonna do one kiss or two the COVID times don't do we still have to kiss like that. I'm not like a kissing person. Eddie has a fun well unless I'm drunk, and it's girls, it's girls. But so Eddie has a friend that kisses he's he's from a different country like that. They do that other places. I don't want to say where because then he'll know it's but he kisses, and you know, it's one of those awkward things when you go to side to side and he goes the wrong side, and then you kiss him on the lips and then he's like, what do you kiss him on the leg? Go I it's not me. I'm telling you it's not me. I don't it's like long hugs. I don't want to be kissing on the lips and I don't want long hugs from so I don't like to be touched. Yeah, I'm not I'm not really interested. I'm okay with a hand holding. I guess hand holding. I guess who it's from. Well, I mean have one, but like I know, I thought you meant like you know a stranger, what are your what are your friends friends? Husband's take? And I hold your hands? Oh no, like under the table, that's not under the table. I'm a red legs, just a little Diane. I gotta I gotta talk about this because she's just she's getting on my nerves. As soon as they start filming in her house and she has to say, oh, the Kashmir sweater, and like she's always throwing money, name brands and to everything, and it just bugs me so bad. But I will say her son adorable. I didn't realize maybe I didn't pay attention. Has he filmed before? Her son and her daughter so cute? But my question is did the father raise them? I read that online, but I don't know. I don't know talk well. She actually kind of insinuates that in that scene. She did insinuate that. I do know that she had that apartment and partied there, and her kids lived in a different place, but I I really don't know, so I don't want to speak out of turn. Um. Did you know that Diana's sons girlfriend is the daughter of Damon Dash and Rachel roy Um? You can tell they all like each other and they like being around each other. But I don't. I don't understand the magnitude of it. But also the biggest thing I'm getting from Diana is she doesn't want to engage really in anything. And then I agree, But I also the only thing I'm getting from her is her she's got a lip problem. I think her lips are too chopped. Well, she can't talk to her licking her lips. I did spend a lot of time researching why this could be, and I really think it's a nervous tech and that's her tell. Like my tell is that my chest is going to get bright red right Like whenever I have to like have a conversation, I don't want to have her. I'm on camera and things are awkward at the same as my daughter. The same thing is like if that's why I'm obsessed with the spray tan, but I think hers is this, but it's gotten to the point. I don't know if it's editing, but it seems like it's happening every two seconds. I know that's what I'm saying. I can't even listen to what she's saying because I'm concentrating on her licking her lips. Well, I'm concentrating on her confessional look where she has like the hair that's like okay, wait wait. I had to pause that only because I was so confused on what was going on there. I don't know, I think, I mean, I don't even know, Like it was like a curl than a fool was supposed to be like a Marilyn Monroe thing. This is the problem with Beverly Hills, and I myself felt probably it was a problematic situation for me. Some of the girls are so interested in style and so interested in looks that then all of a sudden us regulars feel the need to try to level up. Like the one time I clipped in Banks and it is I need a picture of you with Clipton Banks. You the first Thankfully we changed it after the first confessional, Like you know how, we do four confessionals per look. The first one was so bad, Laura and I still cry laughing because it honestly was just like this, I need do you have a picture? Yeah? I mean it was so bad and we were like, professionals are hard, especially when you're trying to elevate yourself to everybody else. I'm not especially happy with my confessional look on Ultimate Girl's Trip with the charl look, because the one with the brown I think that's you look gorgeous in that well, I just felt like because the camera cut me off right here, it just looked like I have this like helmet on it because my hair was really long. No, I think you looked amazing. If somebody wants to worry about a look, it's Taylor with the like the first vest I'm confused. It's I've got some of some of my earlier ones. Back in the day where we didn't have any client. I think we did our own makeup in the beginning. Yeah, well, I mean that's what vanderpump Wool still does their own makeup for confessionals. They probably cause they choose to no. No, they I mean as of a couple of years ago, they still did their own gland. Wow, it looked good, but they're also so young. They're young. They learned from YouTube tutorials. It's not like me where I can't figure it out. I have an SPF tent on right now. Okay. It was definitely a little bit shady how they have Erica coming during the part where Diana is donating her clothes, Oh my god. And I love when she goes and her confessional she goes, I'm not broke, like broke, like broke broke. I'm not broke broke. Oh my god, girl, you're better off just saying I'm broke, just hand broke. Rank everybody what they tell everybody what they want to hear, right, But I mean it was it was pretty funny. Uh but once again, you don't really see the connection between Diana and anybody. I know. It's just so weird. And you know, you never see Diana having fun. It's like she's zero emotion. Well, I think my guess is that Diana probably thought while filming, I'm crushing this. Yeah, like I have got this handled. I am worldly. I've gone to every big party there is. People are gonna love the lifestyle stories that I'm telling. But if you're not engaged with the group, nobody cares. Yeah, my best line out of the entire show. I always like to pick one good line. So you say that I know. So you say that I know when you were going back and forth with Diana and Sutton. So Sutton says something like um um, I love to the end or I'm a good friend, and then and Dinah goes, so you say, and then Sting goes and I know or so well you know or something like that that I know. That's what she said that I know. And they went back and forth like four times, And I'm thinking, I don't even know if they really went back and forth four times, that it was really like fancy editing. Well, my question is do you think they just both have never had anybody have a difference of opinion? Than them. So that's why they can't even have a regular I mean, it was so brutally awkward for me to watch that it was painful. I've even said, like I would have gotten up and walked out if it was me doing that. And then they but you know what, those two girls are exactly alike, but total opposites. Their extremes the opposite. So that that's my point. I think what they are doing to each other is the exact same thing. And this isn't for anybody that has reached out. This isn't my bias or how I feel about Sutton. I have no ties to Diana. I've met her one time. Um, I just feel like they both behave the same way, but they have a slightly different delivery. They're both kind of but they're mean. They say mean things. When Diana sitting there and going are you all right? Are you all right? And she's doing the crazy sign, I'm like, oh, I think I would have thrown my glass of water or wine or whatever I was drinking at her. Now. It was dirty, it was the whole thing was not the best. I didn't think this was their best episode, but then they panned to you know, next week where they show Kathy and I'm excited for that. Well, Kathy trended last night, Kathy trended, and so we'll have to see. I mean, I think people are hoping that there's gonna be a whole new set of drama, and I think we just have to kind of wait and see. Yeah, but hopefully. Yeah, we gotta breathe through fan thoughts here. All right, go ahead, Danna needs to stop licking her lips. Oh my god, I think that's what everybody's talking about, just licking the lips and licking the lips like. I don't think she's going to stop. I don't think she's gonna stop. Um. A lot of questions comments about our Diana's lips overly dry, hundreds of comments on yeah, I'm sure she's going to get like a good a sponsor with chopstick or something. Max, Uh, can we give Sharie Diana's diamond. I think that's gonna happen. I definitely think that. I think next year. I feel like there's gonna be a little bit of a revamp next year. Yeah, I do too. And I do think that Diana is going to walk away on her own. Oh, I do too. I mean, I don't know that she necessarily would have been asked back, but I feel yeah, I wouldn't even be surprised if she didn't show up to the reunion. Oh, you're right, Yeah, like you she doesn't need the money. Yeah, well, she's not really into the drama. She's not into the drama. She's creating her own drama because she's so unaware. Yeah. Eric has definitely used alcohol for a coping mechanism. We all know that. That's that's a no brainer. Which I think there is a difference between going through a rough time and drinking some alcohol to alcoholism. I'm not making excuses for her, but I have definitely had times in my life where I am drinking too much. That doesn't make your alcohol. Alcoholism is a disease, you don't, you know what I mean. So it's that's what I'm saying. They're strong words, they're strong words, and you know it is Erica Kyle's too soft on Erica's behavior. I think she is too. But you know what, when it's your friend and your good friend and your friends on the show and off the show, you tend to do that. And when there's a big accusation coming out, you want you go into like Mama Bear mode where you want to protect the person from a huge accusation, especially if you're Kyle and you already got your you know, ass handed to you years before a season two with your sister. Like they did that flashback, they they lined it right up. It was a great flashback where she said, you know, I'm not going to make that mistake twice. And I think Erica is granted it took her too long, but she did apologize for her behavior. Okay, it just took her too long. I wish you. I wish they would have done something empire, but you have to also remember production. Sometimes we'll set it up in that awkward way. Remember Erica was late, it was all these everything was right for her, not just to come in immediately apologat uh Garcela should have talked to Erica one on one if she didn't want anyone in the combo. I said that last podcast. Um, I do think that conversation should have been one on one. I would have liked to see that one on one, But I think that ultimately goes to what I have been saying, which isn't about bias to friendships it's about watching the show as a person. I think you see what you want to see when you're watching the show. And I think Garcell and Sutton more than anyone else, are very aware of what the audience thinks and what's the audience wants to see, and they're playing up to that. So they know Erica's low hanging fruit. Yeah, so if you want the audience no, I mean, but you know who's easy to come after at this point? Yeah, Well, one fan did notice something that I did notice too, and think Goddart didn't notice it. Diana, poor champagne and a wine glass. The horror, I know. I mean, she needs to be fired just for that. How could she do such a thing, I know, especially with because she wants a bigger poor because you know, let's face it, champagne glasses only gives you a few ounces. I mean, I am glad for that time that I did learn which glass is used. But now I just refused to use any stemware. They're all like this or this. You know who's very stripped on that Eddie on stemware? Yes? Yes? Is he like that with forks too? I don't know about forks. I mean, I only have one set of forks in the house. So you don't have a salad fork, Yeah, I mean have the bigger one, the smaller one that is not a bother. But drinking like even his like he's kind of bougie, even like his Pellegrino or peria. He wanted in a big like red wine glass like in a goblet. Yeah, or as Johnny Depp would say, in a megaplant. And yes, but like even I have stemless ones and some of them are like um copper and different materials, and he won't drink out of this. He's like, m he wants the nice long stem glass. Okay, I mean he doesn't drink that much, but when he does, he's a goot to be fancy. Oh, no one else we need to talk about. In regards to Beverly Hills, Renna yesterday tweeted something oh shocker. So yesterday Renna tweeted some things and it says I shot a lovely breakfast scene with Sutton where she filled me in on what happened at Garcelves party. It's too bad they're not airing it so we can see both sides of the story. Then she tweeted twenty minutes after that, I wasn't at Garcelves party, so I can only go off what I was told. But the stories Diana and Sutton told me were entirely different, like watching two different movies, which I am curious. Why wouldn't they have shown Renna was Sutton. Maybe it was boring, I don't know, or maybe they just want people to keep loving Sutton. I don't know. I don't know, but clearly she didn't make that up. No, I would hope not. No, not. But production hates when you do ship like that. Well, production hates when you tweet stuff like that, not when you film. When you tweet that being especially when you're a long time housewife, they don't like it. She should know better than that. I think, like you know, like everything, you know, when you're filming, there's so many hours of stuff being filmed, like that scene and we'll we'll talk about it later on when Brandy gets on the scene with you know, me talking about Denise. That's not how it went down. Okay, all right, we're gonna get into that. There's so many hours of filming, and you know, and then you condense it. They have to get just enough in. But let's take a little break and we'll come back and we gotta blow through Dubai. Al Right, we are back, and I really hoped after last episode that Dubai was going to pick up. Mm hmm, it's I'm dragging. So how many episodes do we have to suffer through? I mean, we're to the point where, okay, it should be over soon because we're about at the wedding. We're almost at the wedding, which I feel like means we're almost done. Is the wedding the season finale? I don't know, but it seems like it would be. What else is it going to be? Brooks and her child to boarding school? Yeah, we're on episodes sick, We're only on I know, right, Oh my god, I can't. That's the only interesting scene I thought was the end about yeah talking with We'll get to that, but um, furniture shopping before. But her outfit killed me and I was there for it. Every second. She's always either like in feathers, she's so going to a store, like who dresses like that? Because she's trying to create a moment at all times, which brings me back to watch What Happens Live. Last night, Andy Cohen asked Nina and Brooks who the thirstiest was, and they both were like, Ion wants this moment every second that she can get. That being said, watch what Happens Live was as painful as the episode, if not worse, and he burned his hand on on Brooks's microphone, I mean on Brooks's uh curling iron? Why did she have her curling iron in the chair next to her? I don't know I did. First of all, I didn't watch it all. I only watched like the first like I don't know ten minutes of it, so I didn't see that part. But um, I just I couldn't. It was I just can't. I don't know what it is. I want to like it so much, but it's just not doing it for me. Um, yeah, not doing it for me. Standbury and Surgery arrived at the hotel their family leading up to their wedding day, Sergio talking about tiki Tiki night. Okay, that made me want to vomb in my mouth. A tiki tiki? Can we tik tiki at first time? Like? What is he talking about? Like? I thought they wanted to go to a restaurant, the Tiki Tiki Lounge? Well Edwin and I call s uh WICKI so, but he doesn't go like ticky ticky, but we have called it wicky wicky. Okay, but I did think I'm not a talker. I'm just a doer. Well, sometimes we text, well you have little kids, so sometimes he'll just be like wicky, question mark, that's good. Um, And then Nina invites everyone to high t Stanbury says she felt like feels like Lisa attacked her. Lisa says Stanbury's comment was inappropriate and a lot of people have warned her about Stanbury. They apologize at the end. Honestly, Okay, you know what bugged me the most. It's what somebody says, well, I like you regardless of what everybody's saying about you. That is such a mean thing to say, Like, don't say that. It's such a backhanded compliment. But I have to say, Sarah really bugged me this episode. How tell me how well? At the Global Citizens War, um Ion came came in to sit with her in the dressing room and just the white like Ion you could tell was teasing her about how perfect she was. And then she's like, yeah, I can't help just being great, right, I can't. I can't help that. In the best human of life. And and then if I sat at an at a charity event, everybody's like, stand up, now, make a pledge to me forever till the day you Like, it was like a cult. It was very weird to me. Granted you end up kind of forgiving her because then Brooks absolutely loses it at the end, but um right, it was right up there with Louise video. It was very especially when we haven't seen very much of Sarah and her child, but we get to. We also have the pool party where we originally are introduced to Brooks's best friend, who honestly tam if you ever spoke to me the way the Brooks spoke to her best friend on the show and then on watch What Happens Live last night, we would not be friends anymore. That was That was rough. That was rough. She's like, we're childhood friends. That's the way we talked to each other. I'm like, I don't even my sister and I don't even talk to each other, like well even at the dinner. We'll get to that. But the dinner they had together, they were talking about how she needs to pay more attention to her kids. Okay, so one thing that really bothered me and confused me is when she asked the housekeeper or I guess she's a housekeeper, to cut her son's meat and bring it over to her, especially after she said you want me to cut your meat for you and that that support. It's one thing to be like, hey, do you mind cutting his meat before you start, like if she's serving everybody, and that's but she tried to pretend that she did cut it so weird. And her son was so sweet, and I really liked him. I really like him, Like he's good to be, like, he's smiley, he's happy, he's cute. Yeah, And I the thing is, I don't necessarily know that she's the type of mom she's portraying she is on the show. I think she's trying to make good television, which kind of makes it worse. Well, clearly she's not, because her friends are calling her childhood friends are calling her out. Yeah, So then Sarah pretty she doesn't go to put her son to bed. And then Sarah's like, can I speak, you know, openly or whatever she says, and and put your own child to bed, and she's like, well, I don't need to. And then she's like you should be closer to him, and then the best friend times and yeah, but he found an opportunity to express himself and probably something he's been wanting to say for a long time. But then she kind of contradicted herself because she's like, I haven't even he was in the delivery room, she said at the pool party. But then then she's like, I haven't even seen him in five or six years. He doesn't even know us. And I'm like, okay, what, yes, it might have been on Watch What Happens Live, it's all blurring together because they just record them run right after another. But she absolutely loses it, and then she's kind of rude to him on Watch What Happens Live last night as well, and then she's like, you know, we have we have one of those interesting friendships. I mean you saw when he entered the door. I called him fuggly and Andy goes, sounds like a good friendship, interesting friendship. I have a friendship like that, though, but like with somebody, you know, like he'll call me, he's like, what's up as face, I'm like nothing, dick breath like that. That's how we talk each other, I think, asked face and Dick Breath are slightly different than Fuggly. Fuggly is ugly. Yeah, yeah, not not ideal, um yea, but yeah, I mean, but we didn't see we we got to see a little bit of what's to come with Caroline and her family and Sergio's family. The real scene stealer and this entire show to me is Caroline's daughter. She makes jokes and every single time died when she said something like see the next one, to see you at the next one. Give that girl her own show. I love her. She's so good, it's so funny. Because we're her kids were her kids in boarding school. I don't think her kids actually were in boarding school. From what I'm gathering, I don't think her kids are in boarding school because she's she's seems like she's against boarding school. But she's so stiff, so uptight. But her her kids are like so fun and you know, like they're not a product of their environment at all. I think she is probably more fun off camera, off any type of platform. I mean, granted, she was a little stiff on this podcast as well, but I feel like when she feels like people are judging her, Yeah, because we have d M back and forth, and she but she said to me, how do you deal with some of the hate that you get? And I said, I've learned to just start embracing it and just make jokes about it. I'm like you saw yesterday, I was getting pummeled about you know, my thoughts on the episode. Your word pummel just kills me. It is it's a pummeling when I don't know what pumble means. Pummeling was like, you're rolling over, okay, Like it's just it's a lot. I told you not to use big words around me, and actually pummeling counts. But when you're trending and you're no longer on a show, it's a pummeling. Okay. So um, But she said how do you deal with it? And I said, I just embrace it and I kind of push at the people that go for me because that's what makes me feel better. And she was like, oh, I guess that makes sense. Um, And I was like, you just have to own who you are, if that's who you are who you are. But about hearing that, Sergio as Parents offered to pay her off. Wow. Now, if she would have said that prior to her telling us she did not want to sit with them. I would understand then, Yeah, I wouldn't blame her. I wouldn't want to sit with them either. I mean, and how much should they want to pay her? I don't know? Can we get that information? Should? Can we ask her? I'm going to slide into her names and Walters, Teddy Walters is going to find out how much they wanted to pay her off, and our report back the next week's episode. But that's all the time we have for today. You guys, let us know your thoughts and the men, and we're gonna keep giving you our biased and unbiased opinions. Oh my god. All right bye