Two teas in a pod with Teddy Melancamps and camera Judge. All right, you guys, so we are back from Bravo Con, still recovering, UM, myself, Teddy Meloncamp and Tamra Judge. I love that neither has even bothered to put on makeup today. We're like, no, no, I actually have a photo shoot right after this, So I thought, what, why bother? Why bother? UM? Well, I wanted to start out because there has been some some rumors going around UM and I just kind of wanted to talk about it for a second. I first off wanted to say thank you to Tamara because I'm When I arrived to Bravo Con, I had just found out all these different things in regards to my melanoma, the stages, surgery, all these different changes, and Tarma was a very good friend to me, and two of the nights let me like crash with her and her makeup artists and like because I was feeling sad and alone. We were both there without our husbands, and I knew I had to show up for work every day. So tam I want to say thank you for that. Well, of course, I mean I knew that you were in a very stragg straggle fragile state, and I knew you did not want to be alone. And let's face it, we had fun. We laid in bed, we watched Jeopardy and I got and she got one. Right. I don't know how that happened, but I smart now. I think that's the thing. And you know, I got heat about this one time, like a million years ago, about Provence for staying with my friend. You know, staying with a friend and when you're on a girl's trip or when you're on a trip and you're away from all your loved ones, like sometimes you just want to Like we, I mean, we ordered pizza. Granted we were too tired to even eat it, but two of the knights I stayed with Tam and Michelle, and I appreciated you guys supporting me because those it was hard. I mean, Bravo Con was twenty four seven. Yeah, so evidently there's some members out there that some kinky stuff was going on between us and we were kissing and excuse me, which was a crock of shit? Oh no, what else was No one else was going on that I got into a physical altercation. I still laugh about that. Gravo historian and beat the crap out of her on the floor of what they pretended was Bravo con but clearly was at somebody's house. And all even the fact that even my husband and my father and all people involved started calling me my dad's like reps, like are you gonna fight? What happened? We've never known you to get physical, so guts, don't believe everything you hear. Um. And by the way, you have pink hair right now? Yeah, I mean I still have pink hair right now. And the girl in the picture did not had blonde hair. She also, I mean not to tooot my own horn. I know I look young and everything. The girls looked like twenty five years soul. But I die every time I think about that actual video because this girl's were going at it. And to think that you would ever do something like that is, um, pretty comical. And I think it's as comical as anyone thinking I would make out with Tom I know, right. And by the way, I've shared a bed with Vicky Gimbelson on the Girl's trip, Like who cares? Who cared? The only people that don't share beds, in my opinion, is super rich people like so rich that they have to have their own space and their glamp and they're this and they're that. But if you're a regular human person who like is having fun most of the time, you don't want the fun to end and you're like, well, that's just hanging in small talk and gossip about all the stuff that went down, right, Well, the best part was is when we got into like at two or three in the morning or however, it was very very late, and it was me, you, Michelle, Michelle does my hair. We're literally on a kingside bed and three of us in a row and we're like with their arms crossed like this, slept like this all night long, all night what is it? Four hours? Yeah, and then the long and all because TM didn't have to go into work until eleven guess for time I did am so that means hair and makeup six. It was brutal, but we made it through, which is why we got to get to a fan So this episode we'll talk about Bravo con gossip things that went down, but also we'll get into recapping Potomac later first, and so all of these that we're gonna be answering right now are fan questions. Um, the first one was who was the nicest person that we met? Um, for me, I was shocked because in my mind, I don't know why, I just thought Candice was gonna be Candice from Potomac was gonna be kind of a jerk, just because I had just finished watching the entire last season of her like always stirring it. And I went right up to her, I like the legends Baul and like started grilling her about this season. And she was funny and she was quick, and she was nice, and so is her husband. So that's one that I thought was going to be rude, but was so nice that I loved her. And then I mean, what about your champ? So the nicest person? I mean, it's hard to pick like the nicest person because everybody was so nice. I'm telling you, everybody I met was over the top nice. The only one person that I met that wasn't very nice or friendly and she wasn't mean, she just wasn't very warm to me with Marisol, Oh, but I I saw that, but then she kind of came around. I think it's very hard in this world to tell because we think that everybody's an extrovert because they're on a television show or because they have some kind of platform. I kind of thought the same thing about Marisol, But then at one point were both like near one another and like forced to talk, and she was really funny. Yeah, she was like mean. She wasn't mean to be any means, but I did try to crash her picture. They were the cast, the Miami cast has taken a picture and I'm like in the middle, and she goes, you're nut in our cast. I'm like, I'm just joking. Yeah, yeah, that was I think at the like football. Yeah. So but then I saw her again and she was nice, but everybody was so sweet. The Potomac girls, Oh my god, did you think Vicky was really sweet? Um? I, UM, I can say this. I went out and I think you can confirm with me. I went out of my way to be nice to Vicky because I know what it's like to feel in that situation where like, when I listen, I'm fired too. But I was also, you know, paid to be there to do certain things, and I'm podcasting whatever, I'm also walking into rooms as one of the only noncurrent housewives the same way videos, and I went out of my way to be friendly to her. And there was a point where like we were all remember when we were late to was it the Legends ball where we missed the red carpet. We were so late and um Biggy couldn't find anyone, and she like looked at me and she's like, I can't find anyone. I feel uncomfortable, like I went above and beyond. But if when anybody else was around, she just had this sour look on her face all of the time and like she was matt like like didn't want anybody else to succeed. I definitely don't feel that way, like I want everybody to succeed. I could talk about stuff because it's interesting and you know it's on topic, but that was bizarre to me. Yeah, I'm just gonna zip it it there. Okay, Well that's that was that. We've had some words lately. So since oh, since you don't have to tell me, but since we've gotten home. Ah, hell okay, Well I can say I watched you try to include her multiple times. Um. I even went to her room saying, hey, you want to go out to dinner tonight? No, no, no, green room. Hey you want to go walk around brab upon Nope, no, nope, so whatever. The next question for me is, are you guys team Trey or team who was your rudest person? Say? I mean my rudest person was definitely, I mean it was Vicky. I mean even even though there were moments because I said to you one of the nights, I have empathy for Vicky because I can tell she's but what I wasn't sure if you're saying she was your but I didn't. It wasn't necessarily how she treated me like I'm used to it, but I didn't like the way she talked um to Lisa from Miami, Like Lisa was so nice, Oh my god, she was insanely nice, so nice, and they're all by herself and like open and vulnerable, and she just kind of like, I just didn't like how she treated other housewives. And I just from a from an outside perspective, I not like how she was um. And then are you guys on team Trayer team Melissa? Listen? I'm on both teams, truly, I'm invested. I'm not really on a team. I don't really play that game. Um. As far as Melissa go, she's always been really nice to me. Her and Joe both have been very pleasant. Um, Teresa, I had a great time with her, if only I can remember what we talked about. Are you guys were together a lot? Yeah, but there's a lot of drinking and it's just a long day, lots of alcohol, and I have more than three drinks, and I remember my name. Um, but I didn't really even I didn't see Melissa that much. And yeah, there's been a lot online, I think because there's such the divide between Jersey and you know, between the two Jersey groups. But um, everybody's asking about what happened with Justin and Anderson because he co hosted with me. So our first night out in our room, we did podcast with Lisa from UH Salt Lake City. Then we tried to do a Beverly Hills recap, but like we were such a hot mass, like we can't even call it a recap. We were just talking. And then we went out that night and the way that Justin Anderson described it was he saw Melissa. I didn't see her, but he saw her and like said something to her in the elevator and she acted like jay Loo, like she was just too good for all of it. That being said, Melissa has never acted that way towards me. I know, since Justin spoke about this, he has since texted with Melissa and they have cleared all of this up. But that's really all I know on that. Yeah, so Garcela would not go onto the podcast with you. Uh So. The way it worked on the Red Carpet was, um, Tara Are one of our producers would go up and talk to the Bravo rep. And then the Bravo rep would send certain people over because we couldn't get everybody from every cast, so we'd get like three or four people and like the first one, one of the first people to do the Red Carpet was Garcela. She was late, so it could have been a timing issue, but we were at the front of the carpet like you do us and then and she was short on the press line. But they did ask oursel and Garcelas said, no, she didn't have time. Yeah, probably she didn't have time and because she doesn't probably love me that much. But what's not to love about you? Even my friend how Dero loves you. Now. Can you believe we made a whole we I know you made up. She was talking you were talking about um, you know your melanoma, and she had talked to you about some scans and was just sweet nice. She actually text me like at last night, but you know that I'm in bed by then, and she wanted to update on how you were doing. So she was concerned and she was this, This is what I like the most about how to do Bro, now that I've actually really gotten to know her because I did her part cast years ago, which I can funded her on because I said, listen, you said you never met me when you said those things you know about me on your pot or you know that's all right? I asked jack Eddy on the pod and she goes, already was and like, oh that's right. A hundred podcasts, you forget. She's probably seven hundred. But that's what Heather said. But Heather was in on the joke. She goes, I know, I realized that and we laughed. And that's what all you want from a housewife is someone who's in on the joke. If you take yourself too seriously all the time, it gets old. And I liked that about her. Um and also you you did a video of our outfits flying home. Oh yeah, And they said, Teddy, why are you being judgmental of the way Tam was dressed. I was like, uh, did you see that? I didn't post a video of my own outfit. It was we literally got like three hours sleep. I literally I wore that outfit, the sweatsuit to bed. All I did was get up, brush my teeth and go to the airport. Yeah, because you went out the last night. I did not go out out the last two nights. Heather Debraw and I went out and we were at the rooftop until it closed and we just sat there. We just started a table and talked. But there was a lot of champagne, lots of champs, lots of shamps. Okay, the next big question lots of people want to know is gen Shaw at Bravo con Well, where do we start? So so, for one thing, the glam room was in my room. So there was about four people getting glam coming in and out between Taylor, Vicky, myself, Teddy did a little glam who else, I don't know. There's a lot of people coming in and out. So my door was open. Everybody knew. Everybody knew that we did glam in room six tens. Yeah, there was like music, it was like a party. In this you know, two square foot hotel room, so who walks in? But gen Shaw, let me tell you life of the party had fun, joking laughing. At one point we did an Instagram live. Somebody grabbed my phone? Did it? I think your phone as well. We were doing lives from it. Um. She was very sweet. I love the fact that she saw that it was glam there and she goes, oh, you have glam for me? Yes, Jen, it was just for you. Got at the chair. My my people were doing her glam and um, and I had no idea she wasn't invited to ron. I had no idea. Well. Also she came with security, her jeweler and a therapist, a therapist which she kept making me talk to the therapist, which I was a little confused about. But then this is where I noison to be confused. He's kidding, true. I did ask. I said, did you bring your therapist so he can help prepare you mentally for once you go to jail? And she said yes. Um. But then she then talking She said that she was not going to jail, and the therapist was agreeing, and she said she wanted to go to watch What Happens live. Um. She did not tell us that she was uninvited. We had no idea, and so she was saying, I'm going to go to watch it happens live. I'm like, oh, cool, go with us, and Teddy's like, no, oh, I didn't know she wasn't invited. I think you knew she wasn't invited. But I knew from the beginning, like when she came in the way she came in and the way it was like this chaos. Then everybody started like hitting chit chatting about it, and I looked at him, ra I grabbed her arm. I said, you've already been fired once and now is not the time for it to happen again. We are not going with gin Shaw and we we made a run for it. Yeah. That she had said she was going to show up there, so um, now then she did not know she did not did she did show up to the rooftop, uh, And I saw where she confronted Andy and it looked like it was a very intense conversation. And then I didn't see her after that. I don't know if she left her what. Um, But she did tweet. Did you see her tweet? Which one she well, she tweeted one thing, something along the lines of like, I was paid to go to Bravo Con. I'm here because and I was like, now's not the time to double down on your lives. Right. Well, she's out there, which is very rich. She's saying that I'm a liar and that never happened. I'm like, we have it on video. How did you say it never happened? Hold on? What is she saying? Never? She said that that she never said that she was gonna h crash Bravo Con and that she was not uninvited to Bravo Con. And and I'm like, wait, we talked about it. Hold on, she said this is her tweet. Anyone believing I crashed anyone's party needs a reality check. I am the party. Also, I'm getting paid for Bravo Con. Stop worrying about where I'm at. If I wasn't at your event, part of your panel, then it wasn't worth my time. Thank you for keeping my name and your mouth and trending. Yeah, and then she did another one just about me. I didn't even save it with even worth of it, basically saying I used my platform to lie. I'm like, oh geez, that's really sounds solid coming from you. But overall I thought she was pleasant. I had no idea she was gonna get mad that I said that she wanted to bust into Bravo Con. I mean, I mean she might brought bust into. She didn't bust into the actual Bravo Con, but she busted and she couldn't get in. Yeah, she got into the hotel. I don't know how. I don't know if she had a room there or she was shocking up with somebody that she was walking the hallways. Yeah, she was doing She was doing the most. And that's a lot coming from me. It's a lot coming from me. Um. And for those of you guys who said that I boke into Bravo Con, not true. I was in the Bravo press room, the only podcast right that was in there, and I you know, granted, I was punked to do the Project Runway panel, but I think I did a decent job walk. My dress was beautiful, my glam was beautiful, and look beautiful all that I could. Um. The next question was about me growing up with Chef. I guess he posted a photo about us being childhood friends and everybody was in complete shock about that, Yes, how come I didn't know that because I don't like sit around talking about what great were you in? How long were you? What school were you at, what happened? I was at Hilton had Prep and we both lived in a town called Sea Pines and our houses were by the way. He also calls me Ted dro He's like Ted, was that your nickname? Only like from him and like his three like best friends like and so we were at one of the after parties. It was me and Chef and Madison and one of the new girls who was really nice, Olivia and somebody else, and Chef was like, yeah, you know hey when we were younger, and I was like, listen, I wasn't one of the three hundred girls that he bowned. I could never have made out. Was he popular, Yes, he was popular, but in the way that like Chef was the guy that you went to to ask for for guy advice, Like, he was not the guy you were like pining after. So I think this this news Chef is it's interesting for me to watch. But he still was very pleasant to me. He didn't act like he had a big head when he saw me. He acted like the original Chef that I know, not like the chef that I'm assuming is airing on Southern Charm. I don't much happens life with him. And he was really nice. I think it's really nice. I think he's somebody that, you know, with a public platform, can get a lot of action and he does everything he can to get it. Plus his heart there he is. So can we talk about, um, your interaction with Heather McDonald. Okay, So my interaction with Uther McDonald. This was a lot happened night one for us. It was a messy night one, two and three. No, I was only at one and two. Um, so we were I was sitting next to Jeff Lewis and a couple other people. You were roaming around and I was sitting right next to No. You came later, I was already and and then you came and sat down like next to me, to the right in between me and Jeff Lewis, And then, uh, what's her doing it? Heather McDonald sat down and you guys like had an embraced but it was like like an embrace over each other, like you guys were forgiving each other. Well wait forgive. It's a very strong word. Um. She is the first time I have actually seen her since everything went down with the lawsuit. Um, We've had a few exchanges on social media. UM, but you know, it was the first time I saw and I was really close to her before everything happened with the lawsuit, and we didn't talk for I guess now it's going on close to four years. So when she came up, she gave eighteen yeah, three and a half years. So she came up to me and she gave me a hug, and before we could even say two words, Teddy leans in and goes, let me see if I remember exactly. You know, you put her through hell. You know you cost her a lot of money. Are you gonna pay her back? I mean? And I just went, I'm nothing if I'm not direct. Well, I mean you were directed. Eddie thought, yes, yes, yes, when you did that, I mean, she did cost me a lot of money. She did. But then either way, then you guys worked through an ish. But then I realized that I was getting somebody sent me a message when we because we did not have internet yesterday on the or two days ago whenever we flew home, I don't even know on the plane. And then I got out and I get this message from somebody. Heather's dragging you about the comment you made to her when she was hugging camera. We need your side of the story, girl, that's the entire story. I did text directly to Heather McDonald because like, I don't I don't need to like pussy foot around something like I'm not gonna go listen to the podcast. Just tell me what happened, she said, And she said sorry, and honestly, was the worst thing that happened in my career, the fact that the three of us were all sued. I hadn't hugged ham Or since two thousand eighteen, and I was so happy to see her. And then you immediately pointed to me and said you caused her a lot of pain. I hope you understand. I know you're a good friend to Tamra, so you thought you were being protective, but after four years of feeling terrible about it all, I was hoping just to move on. I'm very happy for you both and your successful podcast. And I responded, I get that, and I'm very sorry for my part. I know she was happy for the hug as well. Hope to see you on the pod soon. Pretty good. So you can handle things, you know, and then she wrote, thanks so much, let me know x ol. So that's my side of the story. There's not anymore to it. I was direct with her. I would rather always be a direct asshole than talk about you behind your back. So that's who I am. Uh. The next thing we need to talk about is the Joe Gorga Jennifer Aiden. Um. I do know that I saw a clip from Andy where he said that was absolutely what did you say, disgusting? Disgusting or horrible or horrible like he thinks it's horrible. Um. I watched an entire like two minutes uh TikTok from Jin Aiden's either assistant or manager, whoever it was that she was with, and she said, listen, here's the deal. Jennifer was walking into the lobby. It was a bunch of men and including Joe Gorga and Melissa, and you know, words were being said back and forth. They're one of their male assistants got really close to Jin and you know, was saying inappropriate things and Jen threw her water at him. What I didn't really realize is that Jin doesn't really drink, Like she didn't have any alcohol when I was around her, and they all claimed this was water. Not that water is any different you're going to drink in somebody's face or something drinking somebody's face, but it definitely this situation is it's no good. Yeah, I heard security was called. Frank got in the middle of it. It was it was bad um and Andy. Andy's exact wording was it's gross gross. That's right, gross and it and it really is. And like here's the thing, if you want to be on a show to argue about these things and to go for it, then save it for them, because that was just I didn't really get it. But um, yeah, well nothing makes me sad when I think about Teresa and Joe and where all this is going to go from there. Yeah. Well last night they aired um the Legends Ball on Pravo, and and I did have a little some words to say. I was called the stage with Jill Zarin about her leaking not leaking. She went out there and just told the world that, you know, I was coming back to the show. And Teddy, did you think I did a bad job? Dam Okay, here's the thing. Your first two statements were a little a little too aggressive for me, Like you you know, I forget exactly what I was looking and I was like, no, But then what you said after I was like, everyone started cheering and whooping and excited. I was like, damn, why didn't Tam start with that? What was it that my very last one? She goes, I put it on my subscription. I go, yeah, and you made money off of me? Yeah, that was that was if you were to come in with that energy. At the end of the day, I did him hot because it pissed me off. She knew exactly what she was doing. She's the thirstiest housewife I've ever met in my life. She got the information from Vicky. I had told Vicky that I was coming back and because I wanted her to hear it from me instead of the press, and VICKI met with Jill the next day and told you was coming back, so she had confirmation. She got on a subscription part of Instagram and said she had breaking news and that I was coming back. And she didn't say it in a nice, sweet, polite way. She said it in a very negative way. And my friend Vicky's not happy or whatever she said, and um, it was rude and she wouldn't like it either. Andy and I were trying to figure out a way to announce set. We're going over these different scenarios, and as we're doing that, she announced it. So it was just she announced it on a paid platform so that pfward she got money. So it's just like she tries to sugarcoat it. No, there's not sugarcoating about it. You should have called me, should have asked me first. Hold on, I'm dying because now I'm having flashbacks of walking in to the hotel room and Jill's there and what she said something to me like I like your pink hair, or I like your pot or something, and I turned around and I wrote, I go, I like your beef. I like because what is wrong with me? Because there's nothing else to like about her. That's then she went on Washing Heavens Slive and said I was the most overrated housewife. M hmm, I'm like, at least I'm a housewife, bitch. Well really heard um puppet. I'm just kidding. But that brings us to people that were upset to not be at Bravo Con, which is hold on, where where are we gotta scroll right down right here? Camille Grammar and Denise texting about Bravo Con. I heard a few ex housewives were asked to be at Bravo Con at hashtag bravocon at Bravo TV. The real Camille ge wonder why we weren't asked to be there? Fans didn't want us? Question Mark. Then Camille writes, oh my god. Right then, Camille, I know, right, I know. We have had a lot to say, smiley face. And then conveniently they also post a picture Camille and Denise had lunch today. Wonder what they talked about, and then they said, maybe we should do a podcast together. That could be fun. Let's think of a name. I that's so childish. They were obviously upset that you were going and you and they were not going. They're clearly not on Bravo anymore, so there really would be no reason for them to be invited. You were by it because we are the number one housewife podcast out there, and we do a lot of podcasting with Bravo's permission, so it only made sense. And you're part of the press line. I obviously couldn't do that with you because they had me on other panels that you did an amazing job, so go second. And then the fact that Camille goes out of her way to then try to bring up somebody's esthetics from online when you can find a pictures of anybody looking not their best online, Believe me, you can find one right now. And and I'm sorry, her personality is so nasty that takes away from her looks. But but but what you see, what you find is a fact that she has no clothes on. If you google her name, yeah, you could pull old pigs of Camille from years ago too, but unfortunately the focus isn't on her face. M hm. So you know, like, here's the thing, do the most if you If you guys want to plod, you should. I hope it's successful, but you don't have to like trying to dog people out in the in the midst of it. Um. But I'm glad they enjoyed lunch together because and also the chicks with them. It's Camille cannot go anywhere without her. It's her assistant that she follows me. Remember she was the only person that was not a housewife that came to Andy's baby shower. Oh yes, Camille cannot show up one place by herself. Yeah, so anyhoo, I think that's where Camille blocked me was that the baby shower? How about dort So I was actually on this panel. What happened was Heaven's liveld on. Before we even get to that, we have to start with I was had already sent in a message to dere This is way before Erica said what she said where I was annoyed at Deres because they asked was the most unfashionable housewife? Um, and she picked you and she was like uh and then she's like listen and she's like teddy and I like text her like what the as to read? Like does she mean on that panel or did she mean in general? What did you know? This was not on the Project one Way panel. This was on Watch What Happens Live Later And she immediately apologized. He was like, I'm so sorry, Like, but that was nothing that was like shade. It was low hanging fruit compared to what Erica said. This was the final night of Bravo Con and the last Watch What Happens Live at ten o'clock at night, and it was all about shady comments one liners. Girls that have you know, shady comments all the time. Why Heather Depo was on that panel, I didn't know she didn't know why she was on. It was funny the whole time she's looking why am I here? Um? But Erica? They asked who would be the next couple to divorce? And here's the thing, this is what I want you guys to remember. Eyes. You have a hundred and forty seven other people at Bravo Colon you can choose from. You did not need to pick from your own cap Well, I wouldn't have picked anybody. That's just a harsh thing to say. So, but first she goes, I don't want to say anything because I don't want to be mean, and then she said, could I have nothing to lose? She got out, He got out of her seat, walked to the end of the stage and said p K and dorrite and she turned around and walked away, and everybody went. Now, I didn't think she was joking at the time, but she has sent a comment on Instagram or somebody's page and said, um, she was joking, where's your humor or something like that, or well, it's because first Dreik commented on something and she said, misery loves company. What else can I say? Our friends as that truly know us, know what we have and who we are? And then p K wrote something else and he said, Erica Jane thought her husband was in a sense, she thought the ankle is more important than the brain. She thought she should keep the earrings. Now she thinks to read and I are next to split up. Here's a quick bit of management advice. Stop thinking. Then Erico writes, when did you get so sensitive? You know? Damn? While I was joking, what does the ankle thing mean? Remember when she said she didn't want Tom to go back and get the brain whatever it was he was supposed to get done to his brain because he had broken his ankle. No, I don't remember that, but it was. It was a big, huge part of the story because like, why would you choose to fix somebody's ankle before you would choose to fix somebody's brain. To go into this headline makes that makes um all the sunse Heather Brow claims Erica Jane was the rudest to her out of all the housewives from all franchises. During the Real House of Orange County panel at Provocan on Sunday, the reality star explained that she tried to say hi to Jane after the watch What Happens Live Legends Ball taping, but she was giving the cold shoulder. Now, I am shocked that Heather. Heather hardly ever says a negative thing about anybody, so she must have been really bothered by it. Um. Erica was super nice to me. Before the last taping of Watching Heapens Live, I sat down with her. Um there was I got kind of ambushed by this blogger or somebody trying to get me to answer questions about Erica's situation, and I said, no, go, I don't know what outlet you are with, but I'm not talking about this. So we talked about that and super sweet. But Dare recalled how the shading moment allegedly went down to the crowd mimicking James look of disinterest disinterest. However, Tamra Judge and Emily Simpson, who were both on stage with Jabrow, quickly came to james defense. Erica was so nice to me. Judge clapped back. It's not really clapped back. I mean it's like they're making it sound like I'm fighting with Heather about this. I don't even remember being in the same room talking about this, but she was super nice to me, and I just go off. What how people treat me, and Emily agreed. I mean, I think here's the thing, Like, yes yesterday, before I went to the doctor's appointment, one of the first people to call me and see if I need anything was Erica Jane. She it can be a really good person, and you know she can when when somebody needs something, she can be there for you, and I appreciate her for that. But what I do think, I think this was crossing a line. And what I've been reading, like on you know online, is that this was a way to ensure drama coming into next season because contracts are coming up. Do you think that's true. I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not I'm not under contract, sham. I know that you're friends with everybody, but I do know that we as a group are not texting right now, and that's the first time that's happened in a very little breakup of the fox Furst by the Foxes are not all texting in one group text currently. Oh uh. And I did see Cathy Hilton. She was very sweet to me. Um, you know what talking about that, Erica diss You know, we talked about this a little bit earlier with Mariso. There's so much going on, and you're pulled in so many different directions, and you have to be here, and you have to be there, and you have to go there, and you're late, and people want to take pictures and all that stuff. I mean, sometimes you're just overwhelmed. So I mean, I think they have to take the dissing pretty lightly unless they're like blatantly rude. Well, I know. The part that I was the most embarrassed about was any time I had to go to the restroom because the lines were so long, they would like take an escort with me and take to the front of the line, and then you feel like such a nashole. And then I would try to take like a thousand pictures on the way to the like any person. Everybody's like, can I get a picture? So I tried to be as nice as I could, but you feel like such a jerk. But there's no other restrooms and they need you back by atific times, Like if there was one point they were like, and he's waiting for you, you you need to get back, And I was like, but that's so that's always a little kind. We literally they were pulled from every direction, and I there was a there was a lot of lines to take pictures, and obviously we couldn't do them all. And I felt so guilty and bad because people definitely waited in line. So I tried to jump in the crowd and walk the line and just do selfies, you know, really quick. But for anybody that didn't get a picture, I'm sorry. For anyone that didn't get a picture. You can find Tamaron Cameo at that reminds me of six cameras to do. Um. Then okay, this do mob post about Bravo con Bravo CONTI if you're interested. Cathy Hildan Sutton Strack needed to be kept apart for undisclosed reason, Caroline Brooks and Chanel I on DUBI Housewives nearly scratched each other's eyes out backstage. I may have had something to do with that. God. Remember I can't tell this because I can't ruin their upcoming season. But I don't remember. I was in the middle all that going back and remember I don't remember that. Um and then they had to be pulled apart twice by several people. I had said something to Brooke, I thought her not being able to forge buy her own dress. Yes, I remember that, I remember now. Then Brandy Glanville absolutely shmash saying, so I'm not so great, thanks backstage whatever. She You know what, Brandy has always been nice to me these things, even when she has a hot mess. And then Randy is always nice to me. And then the last one is Erica continuing to hint rumors regarding p K dRIT Kyle and Mauricio swinging, and I am sorry, come on, like stop it, stop that. Like I asked Erica when she was on the pot, you know what I want to see next year from you is I want to see you dating. I want to see things about your personal life. If it shouldn't be about the drama, I want to see all the other things. If she's willing to be slanging it right now and everybody else's personal life, you know, you know, assuming that you know she's on, then I want to I need to see that from her because we haven't seen it all these years. Yeah, I agree, I'd love to see your dating. Can I talk about my most embarrassing moment at PROVOCN Yes you can. Well. Evidently Friday night, I had too much a drink and I was hanging out with Jersey Girls, Potomac Girls, Um, Karen, Giselle, Robin, and I'm even. Candy walked past me the next day and said, girl, you're on fire last night, and I'm like, I hate that. I'm like, what did I say? What did I do? Oh my god? And you know it's like one of those things you don't remember. Well. Two days later, we're going to the sushi restaurant and we passed Giselle and Robin sitting down eating, and of first, I have to tell one thing. We had just squashed our issues. I had already had them on the pod. I had already told them how much we loved them. We all agreed, we made up, we hugged, we talked about the podcast, lifting each other up, and well, I'm sorry, I mean, I love them. I don't have I mean, I have any reason not to like them. And I guess the question was, Tarma, you don't watch a show. No. I didn't watch a lot of housewife shows before I started the pub, and then last year, of course I watched them all. So I just started watching Potomac and I love it. So I walked up and they're like, Tara, They're like you you were best friends. Last night she was pointing Gaselle's pointing to Robin. I'm like, oh, yeah, not remember any of it, didn't remember any of it. And she looks at me, Robin doesn't says what's my name? And I, oh, no, Giselle said, I go, well, Giselle, I know Giselle. We did a photo shoot seven years ago. And what's her name? Um? Actually, just for the record, I said, what's what's her name? Asshole? Um um um. And then I look at Teddy. Teddy goes starts with an R. I go Robin and she goes, yes, yes, and I go, oh my god. So now I feel like a total asshole. Like hanging out with somebody and not knowing their name to me is like the rudest thing ever. Or when you meet somebody and you're like ten times they're like, oh so nice to meet you. Like that again again. So I apologize to Robin. We have let's do a collab. We want to have reasonably shady on with us. We love them. They're so much fun. They're really all the Potoma girls were really fun. And by the way, they probably have both of them have the most beautiful eyes studying um this We're gonna go quickly through because once we get to it, it'll be a lot. But the Real Housewives of New York City reboot cast revealed. The castors of New York City Season fourteen was announced during a tape and of Watch What Happens Live at Bravo on Sunday. The new cast members are Jenna Alliance, Jessel Tank, Uba Hassan, Lizzie Sevetski side of Silva, and Aaron Dana Lichie and I don't know if I'm pronouncing Lichi correctly. However, they are hot. M This is a group. I cannot wait to see these girls in action. They all look like they have a lot to give. They seem like different personality types. I am excited, But then there's what Ramona Singer said. I was gonna say. There's one person that is not excited about the spinoff at all. That's Ramona Singer. They don't call her the Singer Singer for nothing. Real Houses in New York City alum Ramona Singer shared her unfiltered thoughts on Bravo's plan for the legacy spinoff that features the o G stars of the Bravo reality show. I've been there, for a long time. I mean, never say no, never say never, She told hosts Carlos King during his Reality with the King podcast. What was he there? I didn't see I didn't see him either. Yeah, but I also feel like the Legacy show, how could it be really good? The people they are going to bring back are the people they didn't want to renew anyways. Um so, now so now what are you going to call it? The loser show? The loser Legacy? Well, okay, so there was there was a rum or out there that I was overheard say I f and hate Ramona, which I don't. I don't remember saying it. So if you don't remember, did it happen? Yes, I did. I don't hate her. I don't hate her at all. You just don't like her much? No, I no, I like her. I mean, I don't like some of the things that I've heard she's done. But I'm sure she doesn't like some of the things I heard too. But I don't have a I don't have a bad relationship with her, So I don't know. I don't know, all right. I think that's all we've got. I mean, we could probably go on for decades off so much that happened. Yeah, we gotta get to it was unbelievable. We had so much fun. Um, thank you guys for tuning it. If you are missing any pieces, make sure that you go back and listen to. I think we had thirteen episodes from Bravo con Ore. Orange County one was so good, Our Potomac one so good. I'm so happy that we the first time we had any OC girls on the show in a year, and I feel like I am now in a better place to be able to have an unbiased conversation about Orange County now that I've met your entire cast, so I'm ready. Yes, in a shocking turn of events, we had too much to talk about on Pokon. We could continue to talk for hours more. So we are going to end this podcast here and we will be back to drop another episode on Potomac later on