Two teas in a pod with Teddy Melancats and camera judge. Okay, guys, here we are at to teas and pots with myself and special guest toast Drue. Soadora, how are you. I'm so good. Good to see you again. I've been missing you since Vegas. I text you, I like, literally miss you. I know. At the moment, I'm like, well, we're gonna see each other soon, and we're gonna do it again. We're gonna New York. All the things are happening out, We're all we will all be at the same hotel. I'm sure it'll be full blown chaos um. Which leads me to the first fan question, which is who are you most excited to see at Bravo Con. It's so many people like I recently spoke with Karen Huger. I can't wait see her. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. When do your Sefi sent me her amazing book with her you know, the book about her mom, and it's unbelievable. Anyone who has not gotten her book and read it, please go and get it. My mom is actually reading it now and she's just so excited. So I want to see her and congratulate her on all the amazing things she's doing with especially her book. Um who else, I can't. I'm on a panel with Erica Jayne, so I can't and met her. Um, I mean so many people. It's so many people, so you know, we'll see. And now, how is filming going? Filming is going, The filming is going, it's going. It's it was so many clips um circulating from Ross's birthday party on the internet, so a lot of people kind of already know what's been happening, which, well, it was real over here there. She hasn't shown up yet. She has not yet. I actually haven't started yet, so I don't know if you're like, I don't know more than you know, is that what's been on the internet, to be honest. Okay, all right, well, I appreciate you taking the time to fill in for us today because we tameras filming because they do extra filming now because they're you know, they're gonna be in the middle of Bravo Con next week, so like they are non stop. This week, I realized that Potomac was coming out, so we had to cover it, um, which Potomac is my favorite, So sorry, I know, no, no, no, it's it's actually one of my favors, Like I don't I don't miss Potomac actually, so I'm there watching it. I don't miss the episode because it's juicy. And can we say one thing coudy craving. I was actually gonna say, does a frog have a watertight asshole? What? I have to get to that? Like where did that? I'm like Mia where I can't wait till we wat watch that and see what the heck she even like in context? What were they talking about before? And then where did he go after she said that? Not me googling the answer to that late last night, Well I couldn't find I couldn't find anything. So then I had to ask our producers of the show and like does a frog have a watertight asshole? And apparently it's like a slang like I don't know, but it says like is a frog's areswater tight? From what I mean, where did she ever get that information? How would she know this? Were they talking about? Like? I need to know what she was referring to. So it's so much tells so much, it's so much to unpack in this one episode. Well before we even get into the episode, we need to unpack what's going on on Twitter. So Mia Thornton post domestic violence incident from friend of Jacqueline. Then Wendy chimes in on Mia using violence. Did you see this? I did? It's so Mia right since it's been deleted now, but first as a as a tweet that says help is available at Bravo t TV. I'm taking a stand to not condone violence. I will never deliberately inflict physical pain on another. None of it is okay. No one deserves to be treated this way. Hashta back domestic violence awareness. Then that she posts the phone number and it's a video. I saw the video of Jacqueline. I'm assuming that's her husband or boyfriend or whomever. But I'm like, how did she get this video in the first place. Yeah, I don't even know everything. Everything is accessible now, you know what I'm saying. Like, I did try to go back and it's been deleted, So I didn't see the video, but I, you know, read things that people were retreating and like commenting on, so trying to piece it together because I'm I'm like, I know she has two beautiful kids. Um, I don't know if this is her ex husband boyfriend, Like I was confused on who the gentleman. Actually, I don't know who he is because we haven't met him yet on this show. But I do know that Mia came in through I mean, I do know that Jacqueline came in through me. That's her best friend. Yeah, but now they've unfollowed each other. Um. Candice responds to this post, which, um, you know, the whole thing is extremely heartbreaking, and then for also to play out on social media. Um. Then Candice writes mess. Then Candice writes, honestly, we can just skip to the reunion at this point. We'll just tell you what happened and then always always. Then Wendy chimes and, girl, I know you not talking about not condoning violence. You threw a drink on me and hit me with your purse multiple times, breaking three nails in the process. You are the poster child for violence. Then Mia responds, you are absolutely right, and I will own that I was wrong. I won't pretend to be perfect. I feel terrible for acting that way, and I take self accountability. Then Jacqueline writes, ouch, you got me. I guess I learned from the best house. I question Mark nassas I'm college educated, own my own home land and have my own career. Were different, says the fake boss, who clearly doesn't own Zilch. You're a fraud and as gutter as it gets focused on your own mess. Pinocchio, m h, it's so much. It's so much. It's good because now, yeah, like watching Jacqueline and me as friendship, and oh we already now know what's to come, you know what I mean? And I really wanted to like Jacqueline, Like I don't know even what happens, so I can't say I'm not gonna like her, you know, but I was like stalking her Instagram, like she seems like such a nice girl, a great mother, you know, they have like this beautiful friendship, and I'm like, what kind possibly freaking happened, Like what happened? Yeah, what happened? And I guess, I mean, I guess I don't necessarily also understand why Miya would leak these things in advance, especially if I guess, we're gonna have to learn about their friendships, see how close they really are are they really are they best friends or they show friends where like on her timeline, because that's the first thing, I think, right, but like they've been liking each other's pictures, well, you know, unless she went back and liked them. But it seemed like they were friends like long ago, like she was like years ago before she came on, So they were legitimate best friends. And she brought her on the show. So that's even more heartbreaking if that's the case, that you bring your friend on the show, you know, and then all of a sudden, all this myths happens. Now you guys aren't even friends anymore, you know, like sometimes you gotta keep your friends off of the crazy roller coaster that is reality TV. But also, and I've said this, you know, I said this on my social media but which was also became like it started trending and all this stuff, because I said, you know, if you are going to be on a reality television show and you have anything to hide, it's going to come out. So if you want to be a private person, dun't gole on reality television. It's just the long and short of it. Like you can't say I don't want to be talked about. You can't say I don't want the discussed. You don't have those options anymore, Unfortunately I want to know you before because I didn't know. I'm learning that now, you know what I'm looking even at Mia, she's going through so much right now, Like we don't know really what with the status of her health is. You know, I know she on episode one was saying she still going for testing, so we don't know, you know what she's dealing with her health now, with her friendship, and then on top of that, she's had in the family fall out with her like family who totally blocked her husband out of their business. Yeah, so this sounds also very the story that what she what Mia posted. And we have to remember when you go back to last season, Mia repeatedly got things wrong. Remember like she would get people kind of all worked up and then she and the person be like, I didn't say it like that, and then she'd be like, oh, yeah, you're right, you know, like her credibility is a little it's um but it says Mia Instagram caption says, just want to let you all know I love seeing our Real Housewives of Potomac fans and our offices, but I won't be running into you all for a little bit. I don't even feel comfortable recommending you to continue to visit without having a direct influence on the operations. Although please know I will forever value you appreciate your love and support. I've never experienced such pain. I practically birth these clinics. So I'm feeling defeated right now. God has been preparing me for the ultimate fight of my life, breaking the chain generational wealth. I just can't give up now, I've come too far, and then it's please pray for our family. Gordon's brothers, who he trusted to support and carry on the family legacy, have recently revoked his access to the company bank account while we were out of the country. I've since learned that my salary will no longer continue past this next payroll cycle due to unwavering loyalty to Gordon. The thought that the person who Gordon selected to run our empire and who he thought would be the one to care for me and the kids, has now manipulated the organizational structure and robbed us of everything we own. Gordon and I built this company from the ground up and brought on family members since two thousand. Never would we think, after a decade of building generational wealth and opportunities would end up being taken away from its overnight. If you can't trust family, who can you trust? My heart is completely empty, I mean your versus. So that was hard to read them, Like, and then they got into it back and forth Brittany, I guess it's her. I don't know if it's her cousin or someone related to Boorden, but yes, she They were getting into a whole back and forth in the comments. Uh that's the thing, Like do you think that we're going to see all of this play out this season as well? I have no idea because that wasn't even a part of the trainer, So I'm like, I feel like they would have put that in the trailer because that's major, that's how we met Mia. She's got these. But I also felt like it was a little much. You know, when somebody's like shoving it down your throat how much they're working. Yeah, and then you're like are you? Though? Like there were times where like she's like making eggs and then she's like sitting there and she's like I gotta get through all like and You're like, are you? I thought she said they were her, join Like I thought they were hers. I didn't even know well, because from the post it sounds like they were actually, jeez, it's not getting yeah, because and what did you think? What do you think of g in general? Oh my god, Gee is great reality TV because she just doesn't care, like it's no filter. You know, he just was being a hundred to him. I hope he continues to be him because I did hear um that he might clean up this season because he was thoroughly embarrassed. So I just but I don't want that to be the case. I want him to continue to be who he is, because that's that's the real you know what I mean? Because I think and I think that's why we're in this situation with me is because I don't know that me as a hundred percent being, you know. I think she's coming and wanting to make good reality television, and then it's so much that you're I'm have a hard time where I feel like most housewiters I can watch and say, oh I relate to them. Here, I feel this connection to them. Here she's I'm not feeling it because I think there's it's such a show right now. I agree with you because actually when I saw Gizelle and she was finally revealing our house that has been like I feel like all of what to make like the whole season. I'm like, I really I thought that saying. I was like I can appreciate Gazelle because even for me in my house, I am like life happens. We're still getting our house together. So when I saw me and the fact that she moved and like everything is perfect, Like I'm looking at every room like she decorrect every room and she's renting. So it's like, why how did you do invest all the time to get a picture perfect? You know? I love a housewife that's willing to let us be on this journey because that's life. Like I'm stting over here with my kid home today trying to like multists figure it out. I don't same here, Like I'm like, I agree with you on that day. Totally. Yeah. Okay. So Real Housewives of Orange County star Heather to Brow and husband Terry to Bros. Sweetest Family Moments Party of six. Heather to Brow and Terry de Bro haven't left their lives in the spotlight keep them from raising their four children, Nick, Max, Cat, and Coco. The Real Housewives of Orange County star met bog personality on a group day in the nineties. Heather recalled during the November two thousand and fifteen of her Heather to Bros. World podcast that she initially thought Terry wasn't really her type after he complimented her kissing skills. However, she was hooked the duo ty. Three years later, they began expanding their family. The couple welcome twins Nicholas and daughter Max, and then daughter Cat was one three years later in October two thousand six. The pair's younger daughter, Coco, arrived in December. Over the years, Heather and Terry have highlighted their children's milestones on social media and at times of their respective TV even chuse Okay, so that was just a long drawn out thing because there has essentially been there's been on a press tour the last couple of days through Orange County and even let me see where the little video as I saw her say all about protecting yourself but also knowing. I think when you know that things are actually good, it's easier to ignore and you know lies camp which yes, that that's actually true. But then the problem is I went back to her podcast where she says that absolutely oh here it was Real Housewives of a Lum. Heather do Bro suggest Bronwyn calls paparazzi on herself. Heather revealed unease the Daily Pop. I want you to say, for the record, there is zero paparazzi in Orange County zero. You have to call them on yourself. So which one is it? Did paparazzi get her out and all these photos to ship by accident? Did she call them? He called them? Like? I mean, I think my four year old daughter nass totally like you think papa is flying or like driving all the way, so wanted to count I don't. I don't know, no, if she had an issue, that all I'm saying. You know, it is what it is. But I am saying, if you're gonna called albron when for calling the paparazzi on herself, which let's be honest, I feel like she probably did, and then you got to own the fact that you called it on yourself. And it's not like she lives in West Hollywood or l A where they are honestly out to get under yeah all the time, just waiting. But her like I appreciate, you know, a good picture perfect family but it just is very it's very projecting. This is what we want to show, and this is how we want to appear. The matching Christmas souths so matching everything. It's just like, gosh, there's people are like perfect, but that's someone. I mean, aren't we all? As I'm like looking through my Instagram, I'm like, you know, sometimes it's look a little dicey here too, aren't we all? You know? I mean, I I'm not gonna lie. In the beginning, I was like, I don't care. I'm putting whatever is my real life on Instagram, you know, makeup, no makeup, whatever. Then all of a sudden I joined the show, and you find yourself wanting to, you know, be better, I'll say that, wanting to be better. You know, well let me. Then you learn about the app face app let me, let me just let this a little bit, you know, let me just go to the skill sir. And then all of a sudden you get just like like, now, like I really this season, I'm not gonna here as much. You know, I think you just have to really and it's a process, but I think at some point you just have to be okay with being real, owning yourself. Yeah, I called paparazzi. I want some more to do. Yeah, you know, we want this picture perfect life or image because you know, and then people can connect, then you can you know, well, which brings us to our next Uh. This this whole thing makes me. It made me, It made me sad. I posted about it myself. But Kathy Hilton responding on Instagram about why Kyle is crying so Christian Grace Snow wrote, I'm so worried about Kyle, so upset, and then did you see what Kathy responded? What is? She respond She wrote? Why is she hips that in crying? I'm the one who got bullied and she said she's mean to stay persecuted. But it says perfect for ten months, just cruel and disgusting. Yeah, and then just so much commenting on everything like I wish because I know that Kathy, in my opinion, Kathy wants everything to look a certain way. So then why comment these things on social media because then you're just gonna be talked about more. I think it's so. I remember what you say when we were in Vegas. You know about how Kathy may have you, You know, Kyle, all these years, I never looked at it that way because I just saw Kathy as like she's like wealthy, you know, she's a kept woman, She's a Hilton. But then to understand why Kyle's had her independence, Kyle has had her career, you said it, And now I feel like we're seeing the fall out of it, because I feel like now Kathy's coming out of that what we thought it was, what I thought it was, what probably other people probably thought it was, and she's starting to speak her real her even saying that, well, why do you guys feel sorry for her? I mean, I A'm the one. You know. Now you're getting into how Kathy's really felt, and like you said, it's just going down from here because I think Kathy just she's now open, you know, she's now opening and to express herself. Whish I pray this will be the beginning of healing, because if Kyle ever misunderstood what their issues were, I think now they're finally getting to what the real issues are, which is Kathy's jealousy or envy, or her desire to wish she had been more independent, whatever those feelings. I'm kidding for her, but I hope this is the beginning of them to be real and really go to a deeper litle and connect because Katy's all over all over the internet. But that's what I'm saying, don't but if you really want to fix something, and I mean if you really want to fix something with your sister or somebody in your family, like imagine you and Ralph are in a fight and you do the whole thing in the Instagram comments. No, you know, I don't know what to say, because you know, she and I have are I feel like we really go at it the most run around versus to speak to this. I think we talked more on Twitter than we did during Filman to be honest with you, you know, and our real feelings came out. I feel like, like you said, reality, you're now public, so there is no you know, hiding because if they would have been able to solve their problems, they could have been having this family counseling like all this time before she got on the show, if they were going to really work through their issues. Sometimes I feel like reality holds you more accountable, you know, because that's the thing, and you know, you could see you could feel Cathy's anger here when she responds to Christian Gary Snow. But you're also like, then why did you come on the show if you know what's going to come out? Like you knew, you know the things that are potentially going to be shown, and it's a risk I didn't like. I guess I didn't, though, I don't know, maybe because you're more seasoned and like, I don't, I'm not. I was only on for three seasons, Like, aren't you going to that's me? I'm a movie compared to you, honey. So no, no, definitely not. But thinking of, uh, did you see that Bethany Frankel says she's going to pack some ship up on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Are you confused like she was? I mean, I haven't even seen the show, but these are O b H clips had me looking at Airbnb to go there and have some shut up l O l at Andy and then l Andy. We put me on one couch and the whole lot on the other. What is she saying now that she would fight with all of them, all of them? She said she wants her own. Yeah, basically she said she had the issue with everybody on the guest and so I don't know if she didn't make things right over in New York. But also, don't we know you watched the show by saying this, you're a fan of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, which is okay, funny like we are, which is okay because remember those supposedly some of those girls were her good friends from growing up, supposedly. But my thing is some closure in a period dot on Real Housewives of New York before you try to try to ask for training or whatever she do so Beverly Hills, Like, I need you to come shut this down before you try to move on. So I don't know you're You're like, your job isn't done over in New York. You need to get your ass back there and handle business, okay, period alright. Well, in the words of Chanel, period dat okay. Final thing before we get to recapping, um is Lisa Barlow is taking a page out of your book and getting a little messy on Well, I love that, I say, your book. Meanwhile, all I do is like clap back to people on Twitter. But somebody says, what does John Barlow do other than follow Lisa around? And Lisa Barlow says, l O, l I'm going to chime in here. John Barlow is a boss. He's not punching time clocks and doesn't report to anyone. He's an owner. He can do whatever the f he wants. And sometimes that's hanging with me. I mean, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, I I love Lisa, that's my girl. Hey Lisa. Um. But the two things we don't know what he does? I mean, that's a ballet question. I I thought, you know, just watching the show, and what I did at myre is their partnership. I feel like the thing the businesses they built for their children, and if you see him there at the table um with the Vida tequila, I do feel like they are partners. But it just they don't. It doesn't it's not clear to us that they are. So that to me assuming that, okay, they've got these family businesses. But I think that's a valid question. So we all have to what does what does he do? What's his background? You know? I mean people have said that about my husband. UM like sometimes it is it's like in real life. So he does. But if we don't show it and make it very clear, if we don't make it very clear, then people will ask that. People ask that about my husband all the time, so what does it do? Uh? Um. Now he's in technology, which you know is something that I don't think he feels his appetising or people will really care about. I find it fascinating. But he licens out software to like AI and smart people technology stuff for five years from now, so it's really because that's the world we live in. So I feel like right now, you know, he has a contributees telling about things that are being invented five years from now, and is really it's fascinating. I mean kind of scary, but um yeah, that's his that's his real job, that's his career. Um. But he's also an entrepreneurs so people see he's writing a book now and doing some things. But I feel like it's important for us to know, like how he got his money and how we're able to live this wonderful life. So Lisa was already hold like what that that TikTok where like this news just broke. It's so heartbreaking. Tams exclusive Meni Leaks twenty year old son suffers heart attack and stroke. Me Nei Leaks. Old son is lucky to be alive after a frightening medical emergency sent him to the hospital and on a long road recovery. Sources with directnowledge to tell us that Brent Leaks was in Atlanta earlier this month when he suffered both a heart attack and a stroke. Luckily, we're told that Brent was quickly transported to a local hospital for medical attention. Our sources say, well, Brent was hospitalized for several days. He's now out and rehabbing, and everyone was hopeful he will make a full recovery. It was last year when Nini's husband, Greg, who was also Brent's father, died after a long battle with cancer. Brent was featured on the house Sides of Atlanta throughout Nini's time on the show with his brother Bryson. Nani has not publicly commented on her son situation as of now. Oh my gosh, Nini, we're sending so much love and prayers your way. This is and for your son, and we're thinking about you. All Right, we'll take a little break, we'll come back and we are going to discuss the Pototomac premiere. All right, we are back, and there is nothing I sent this to the group, but there's nothing that I feel more in my entire body than this right here like no hugs, no hugs, no touching, no touching. I'm good, thank you. Now. I love Giselle keeping it all the way real, honey. I live for real, real moments. Giselle just she really I love her so much, even though you know she doesn't love me that much. But I feel like I'm gonna win her over at baravo'conn um. I well, she just said something on her podcast, but we'll see. But I love the fact that Giselle is like we saw a softer side to her at the end of last year, and then you know when when she comes when she's with her kids this episode, talking about the spring in the spring and her kids, even trolling the way that she dresses, like I just I think she just had to say said that, like we all know jas ok Intra, but I love her like she was my former first lady. All right, So we literally a pray together, and yes, I will ever love her in spirit. Um. So yeah, we have to make this this work. Maybe we'll have a little pursercleing Brook. All right, We'll do what we gotta do. Um. But the shows, these are the best moments. Giselle, Robin and Karen Giselle, Robin Karen and actually talked about me as Instagram post about her health and that they are attention seeking and she is putting out unsure narratives. They can't figure out if she has cancer or not, and her post takes away credibility. So this is what the post said. It's a picture. It's the same time. Last week, Doc called it seven thirty when I am Mia. I'm so sorry your test results came back. I need you to go to Johns Hopkins Cancer Center today for further evaluation. You can only imagine the overwhelming amount of amount of emotion g and I endured trying to figure out why. However, even with such charitable news, I felt an extreme amount of peace and energy and still that allowed me to remain strong. I've been in and out of visits to specialists every day, and the storm is not over, but this experience is changing me. I'm working with a phenomenal team and of physicians, and I appreciate the outpouring of support. I have not been diagnosed as of yet, so please keep me in your prayer. I know God has a plan and we are often challenged to remain humbled that tomorrow is not promised, that are days on this earth are numbered and a message from my heart a gentile minor to live, love, forgive, as today was your last and then second post love. So many of you reached out to check in, and I want to let you all know I'm okay. Each day comes with new challenges. So far no cancer, although I'm still undergoing testing and we will surgically remove the two lumps for biopsy. As of now, everything is looking good. Please don't worry. It's not my intent tree to worry. Yet, remember the message behind why God faces these challenges, so essentially what they're saying, as you know, she changed her post a couple of times, and she's making it unclear which kind of continues on in this episode. Yeah, I feel like, yes, reality were to be open and all those things, but I, as a woman, I just should lightly when we start to talk about health issues, um, because I dealt with diagnosis and surgery and all those things, and it's a very hard thing to go through just by yourself and then with your family. So to really put it out there in a way that it's very unclear is going to bring a lot of confusion and also open the door for the girls to dig and poke and all those different things, which doesn't make it any easier. I think when you're dealing with something like this, you need to reduce your stress. You know, you need to take your momentum. I'm a firm believer in that, because this is your life you're talking about, and other people that are going through something similar. You know, you have to be more respond stable, I think in your messaging. So that's why I think that's what it is. And I think, especially when you're held under this lens of being on reality television, whenever you talk about something medical medically related, you need to know exactly what you're saying because people are gonna be like watching you. Like I I remember something happened even on Beverly Hills where somebody said there's significant other spouse had a type of diabetes and they said the wrong name, like it was just an accident. Everyone jumped on them like that's not the right one. You know, it just and it was someone just spoke wrong. So I think, you know, I I personally have spoken about you know when I like posted about getting skin checks because something came back and you know, I had melanoma but ended up being Melanoine seat too, but I explained, like you have to go get your skin checks, how important it is, and then I completely laid it out to everybody because for me, I was thinking that's something I really avoided doing. Go get your skin checks, like which I'm saying to you guys. Now, they just found another one that looked free cancrous. They dug it out and then the results will come back later this week. So it's just something you have to stay on top of. I do every three months, and um, yeah, you just have to be really clear in that messaging. But yeah, it's I think it's gonna get on that, like, you know, prayer see you on that. We'll be praying. Let us know if you need anything. I think, um, that's something I've never done. So even hearing you about that, that's something that is important to do. There's so much things. There's so much we don't know, you know, and how we should take care of ourselves and better care and that's the journey. I'm one as well, so I just feel like as women, that's important for us to stick together. I don't really like the ladies right off the bat. In episode one, Hooking fun at it. I think, you know, questions and concerns are warranted, but I think we need to tread lightly into the making it, you know, shade and all of that, because that's what I've experienced and it doesn't feel good. Yeah, And I think just going forward for me when she's going to make those types of announcements, just being a little bit more clear knowing that, especially on this show, people are going to want to fight with you about things, especially when you throw things another dract. If you're gonna throw a jab, they're gonna throw a jab like it's just or just come on quiet, you know, and just come on quiet. And if you're a little tea, don't don't come in, you know, on twenty But I think that just goes to her and her lack of connectedness, you know, and let the girls be apart, Let let us be a part. I want to see where this house is when you bought it. Who's your interior designer? Like? What? How is everything perfect already? You know, Yeah, let's go to the doctor appointment, let's do you know, like all of those things. I think, you know, having to try to find put the pieces together through social media is a little tricky. When you're watching a show at the same time, kind of like Ashley's divorce. What okay, So things made a lot more sense to me when she said the comment like all that, when she's saying she doesn't drinking party Moore anymore. They aren't sexually compatible. They've been drifting apart, but this was the line that got me. Okay. She says she wanted monogamy after the birth of her child and his infidelity, and that's when she said that. I realized, Oh, I think they've always had an open thing, is what the assumption I made from that, And now that that's happened, now that she's had kids, she doesn't want an open thing anymore, and she's just like done. I was gathering that. I was gathering that t because I'm like, I think I heard in the past that they were they were introducing other women in the bedroom, and I think, and it happens. You know, women are like, all right, I'll try it, and then you fall in and trying to please your man, and then maybe you like it too. And now that she's had her you know, she's a mom now and she's going through those hormonal changes and being more responsible as you come into motherhood. She's like, yeah, I don't like it no more. You know, I don't want this, And now you know, it's kind of one of those things you signed up for. You allowed it to open Mandoor's box. How do you just tell a man no, now, like that's what he's been You guys have been married for she said, almost eight years, and so I don't know how you can now suddenly expect that change. Demanded as far as divorced I personally, and I'm gonna put it on record. I think she's going as far as say divorce, I don't. I mean, I really was trying to think as hard as I possibly could if I could ever get a couchie craving for Michael Derby, and I just don't think I could. Well, Like, how many drinks would attend to get couchie craving? A lot? She said, it's not you, but I think, you know, I don't know, I think. And she is looking the hottest sues ever. I'm sorry, she is glowing, she looks stunning. She's a dressed like you can tell she's feeling herself that blue leather situation. I was like, okay, okay, girl, I'll give it me like glow up vibes, and I don't know, I don't know. I feel like she's got one foot in, one foot out. She's like, I'm here for the money opportunities and the businesses that he's been amazing and created this lifestyle. He's paid all the bills, she said, So I think she's using this divorce word, like, but then why does it under her? Why get a house together and put it under her LLLC. That's what I don't like. I want to know. I'm gonna have to dig a little deeper and what actually he does, because remember last season, all of a sudden he was gonna be producing movies and then they were like are they going to be porns? Are they gonna be that? Like everybody, I think he just has a lot of money and he's just like, but then why were they living in that con know, with no backyard for the kids? It was a penthouse though, like doesn't that cost a lot? Like phou Yeah, I'm sure it's not about the money, but it's like we would think once you had, like if if I lived in a condo and it was cluttered with all of that, like a fancy bazillion dollar condo whatever it is, and it was cluttered with all that kids stuff. My husband would have a mental break because you do the house is for them to live in. Like to me, that is a bachelor pad. Yeah, that's not like a family home. So I think he's going to keep the bachelor pad and live in the family home. Is that the plan? That's what I'm saying. I think maybe she's like, let me throw this divorce word out, but I will still go along with our plans getting his bigger house and then maybe I'll get the house in the divorce and he can go back to his penhouse. Or I think really she just wants him to give up the threesome up, you know, the whole idea, and she's using divorce is like, I'm not playing with you now, I'm gonna divorce you. Now what you wanna do? Now what you over mind his house? O? Well, I'm still staying. I still like, I think she still wants to be with him. On watch what Happens, Like last night she was talking about Luke from Summer House, and she seemed like you could tell like she got a little like she she was pointing it out there. Oh my god, So she's ready for Okay, I think she's ready to get out there, really or was she doing that to get at Derby and Michael? I mean she try to do that to maybe, Like I don't know, I just have never particularly loved the way he treated her on the show. And I know, like I just I don't know. I think he always made her feel bad and from someone who has her own, you know, issues like you know, I can have my own insecurity issues with family and those types of things. Seeing that she kind of looks up to him as this like father figure and then he kind of treats her. I didn't like it. I didn't like the way he treated her. It does seem like a good dad. Um, so I understand wanting to hold onto that. Yeah, she looked at the woman. Don't forget that, but you but now no, you have to also think she's on season seven of her Housewives of Potomac, so she can pay. She's got her. She can pay her own way now she can. But like she said, she's like, I don't even know how much money I would need because he pays for everything. She doesn't even know responsibility, She doesn't know, like think about had to be the one to pay because they've been together since she was how old they've been gether eight years, so she had to have been like, like you, Like, I didn't mean I didn't get married to I was like to add one until I was whatever in my thirties, so like I was well into knowing what I had to do to figure out. I was paying all my bills before this. I mean, it's great that my husband doesn't now, but to never know like how much other utilities, especially in a house now like it's a whole different You've got landscaper bills. Like I don't think she understands what that looks like. Um, so she's gonna need to cross her tea stought her eyes got your didn't need to learn she's really serious about this divorce because independence is a whole new thing. Yeah, and then when then they get into the topic of prenups where, you know, in perfect Giselle fashion, she slides in the fact that Robin is the only name on her house right how right now that was new information? What did Robin call her after scene and say I want to know that? Oh my gosh, I feel like Robin will just let it slide off of her like she'll be like, yeah, so what you know. I feel like Robin is able to kind of move through these things. Robin said, I'm gonna feel like that's why, I mean one got pissed last season, even when she kind of said he wasn't there when the kids were little. So I think once this comes up, especially, yeah, I feel like it's we're gonna get some more action on them. Um. But I know what. We're running out time because you have to catch a flight. But Candice meets with a doctor about freezing her eggs and she wants to have the security that she has the eggs stored away when she's ready to have kids. Candice asked her husband Chris, to have a schedule to be off work when she has her appointments. Things do not feel good here a little rocky. Um. Yeah, and I gotta reach out to Candice. Um, you know that's my girl. I don't know it is. I can tell you she's not my girl. After I watched twenty two episodes straight to catch up because I was a season behind and having to watch It's one thing when you spread it out from a week like a week by week, but when you were back to back binge watching the show and you realize how much ship she's causing. It was hard for me to because I don't like that she always goes to body shape, like it's always physical, and I don't like that. Now Candas has a mouth on her, and I've I've told her myself. You know, she's very vocal, but she's young too. She's not a mom. She's learning, she's evolving. I I can see the growth literally from her past seasons too. Now I feel like, you know, you gotta give a grace. She's evolving. There's been a lot of growth, you know, with her from when she started. Her mouth has gotten better and and and things. But however, Chris is feeling you know, I feel like it may have taken a toll on him and he's just like ready to go. Well, you know, last season you could tell they're trying to make it a little bit of a storyline how much he was drinking. And then now he's supposedly out a lot, and then he slid into Giselle's d m s and the super tees. But you just don't really I feel like the first season, you saw them, you saw them, you saw the intimacy not intimacy, but you saw their connection and it just doesn't feel there anymore. And that also can I say this a lot. It can happen when you go on the show. It's either gonna bring you closer together because you're gonna it's gonna highlight what you've done wrong as a couple, or it's gonna rip you apart because you're gonna you know, egos are gonna start to get involved and people still aren't going to see themselves for who they are, and it's just gonna tear apart. I hope not. I write for them. I think we're gonna stay till and that's for sure, because I gotta know how this all ends and what crystals out here in these streets doing. He needs to be in that kitchen, cooking that good food. That's where he needs to be, and says, but inside and cook that good food. I mean, what would you say if Rov was going out multiple nights to one am uncles Okay, not Raby in these streams Okay, the streams up a round. Let me make that clear. Rob likes to go out, you know, and I believe it's healthy for a man to get how many times a week. Yeah, like I know how many. I mean he goes. He goes high, Like he'll be in the office straight like five days, you know, straight, and then I'm like, okay, you need to get out. I'm like, go out. But then there's times when he's like got something to do every day with this friend and this friend and they're going to foot ball game and they got Hawks tickets and Falcons tickets and it's just a whole hawk. Hawks tickets and going to the club are two different things to me, but Hawks tickets, and then it's the after party and then it's all right, me and the guys are gonna hit up this last spot, you know, and then it's a whole day turn into the night situation. But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't. I think he does it right. When I'm about to go off and I'm like it's enough, then he's like it's almost like we know now, and he's on this three days on. You know, if you're three days on, then you deserve a night off. And then when it gets to be too many, you gotta come in and take care of these kids. But I do think that you can feel as a wife, as a woman when it's like I don't know, you're not answering your phone. It's getting later and later, and now you know, it's no explanation, like I need to know where you are. And you guys have seen me grow into that. I did not even know my husband went to Tampa, So who am I to say anything's wrong? He was gone for days. So I think now we've got into a point where at least I know where he's going, I know when he's going, and I know how in days will be gone. Um, So I think for Candice, you know, she needs to make sure she just knows those things. And if a wife calls, you make sure you answer the phone. You know, that's the least you can do. And how old is Chris? I know she's pretty young, but like, isn't he gotten his rocks off enough? Like I am? I am forty one years old. There's only so I mean once, I mean once a month. Maybe I can do it, but like I have zero interest and like going out to that capacity multiple like it's one thing. I'll go to Bravo con and things will be wild, and then I'll come home and need to recover for three weeks, Right, that's yes. I was in the bed for like two days. I was like, get my life back. But we're moms too. I don't know. Guys their energy levels different, but I don't know. I think you have to create what works for you. I think we've seen, based on what we've seen, Chris dealt with a lot with her mom, you know, and I felt like he was very patient. He gets a gold sticker for that, um, because not a lot of men are willing to take that from their mother in law. Um. He lived in a home that the mom was contributing to. I think it's a man that's tough. People questioning what you do for a living. And I don't even know if he had a job at any point, you know. I think that's hard to follow. I think now he's been able to partner up with Candice, help her get her music going. She's doing amazing things. And then I feel like now he's like, look, I got my thing going, and now I need my life, you know. I think that's kind of what we're seeing too. So you're giving more of a past than I am. Not shocking, I'm I'm a little I'm a little bit of like because you got to think about when he's come through. That's why I'm looking at it from like, I'm like, my husband would not have lived in how so, but my mom was paying for allowing my mom to have a room and just come and go. And my husband would not let me like the amount of time he has to like talk even last season when she's like throwing salad at people all that kind of stuff. I don't want to be like Teddy No, right, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not even anyone wouldn't even show up to film like if I did that, like if I was acting like that. But even the one time he watched me cry, he was so embarrassed. Um and Edwin represents the type strong men out there, like you know what I'm saying. So I just feel like Chris is taking some hits that I'm like, let's let at me and go out. Let then that you want him to go out. You know, he's been keeping a lot in he's taking a lot of hits. Let that man go and get his little time. Let him get his time. I disagree because I think he's gonna find too much time and something else to get himself in trouble. And when you are on a television show. People are gonna record you, people are gonna telling you, and nothing is going to slip through those cracks. And especially if you're in a situation where you're trying to have a kid with Candice, they're gonna be watching. But we don't have to watch this. We're gonna have to keep tuning in because apparently Karen's I know, I know, and we're out of time. But I mean between that and they're saying Karen sneaking off, oh, we didn't get to the point that, Like Peter Thomas was on this episode, right, that's I was Cynthia's ex husband. Let's talk about it, Cynthia's ex husband being on this episode, Wendy bringing him on. Also, I'm a little bit confused with Wendy all all of her business ventures. She seems very confused about I was, so I was confused. Was like I was here for the Nigerian Lounge, like because I'm like Afro Beats is hot, Like this is lit like afro Beats the whole you know, making you feel like you're in Nigeria, like the vibe that is really cool. But there's no but there's no planning behind it, and then she wants to turn it into like a kid library. She said, like a kid's play area, right, yeah, with books like her professor career was intertwining with this club. I'm like, no, no, no, professor by day, club owner by night. That's what I meant. If there's booze, if they're selling booze, it's probably not said that down. We're not doing that. That's not it. But I need Wendy to get. I don't know what's happened in the Windy, you know, like I don't like her in Gizelle. I don't. I don't know what's going on with this club, like I need here to get. Do you think that Giselle's hooking up with Peter because we heard those rumors a while ago. Yeah, it was in the trailer. I was like, I can see now how Peter got into Tribes. I was wondering, like, how did Peter even get in Potonic? But now we see, so we gotta stay tuned. I think that would make a lick couple though, but I don't know. All right, We're gonna have to stay tuned. I think what we do know for sure is this is gonna be a very Juicy season. There's a lot. I mean, Teresa's back is back, Teresa's back as a friend. Then we've got Jacqueline the new Friends, who they showed last night. I think for a second at the party they like said her name, but like we didn't. I think we'll probably meet her next week. Yeah, but it's it's gonna be good. I think they're you know, I do like they they keep repeating, you know in the trailer and at the beginning, our class remains unmatched, and then you just them all like ripping each other, ripping each other, like we know how to keep a secret. No, you don't know, but you know that, Like what do they say? We don't play in the peak? They do not play in the peak? So would you want to be your best friend? H Who would you want to be your best friend? On Potoma'd Karen? Karen? Yes? The grand Duney. Who's your pick? Who? Who? Who's your Who's Rstill? I loved Giselle so much. I love Jaselle. I I also like Ashley Derby. I want to get to know her more. I think because especially I have I have now something in common with Ashley Derby because the last night I watched What Happens Live. She said that the rudest housewife ever to her that she's ever met, as Vicky Gumbolton. Oh, and you were like, we're gonna have a lot to a lot of fun connections at Bravo con. Yes, I love all the girls, like don't like all of them in their own special way, you know what I'm saying. So I'm with you on that. But I just like Karen's my person. She's Forrest too, so that could be why. But it's gonna be good. We're gonna learn a lot. I have a safe flight. I will see you on Thursday. See Thursday. Boo shut shut shut stop shut shut shut. We got to do the next tasting. Let's do it. Let's do another tasting with more celebrity and housewife. Let's do it. Because we were in the liquor store Rough and I yesterday and we passed by the eight Win eight. We were like, we're all right over there, way stop in there. Next there's a lot more we gotta taste. So all right, I'll see you there. Thanks for coming on. Thank you guys.