Joy Taylor, Hayley, and Spex are back. Spex catches his first internet dragging, and the crew can’t stop talking about Megan Thee Stallion at the Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show. Then things get real after another school shooting, this time in Bend, Oregon. Hayley shares her perspective as a parent of an elementary schooler, and Joy recalls the question an Irish tour guide asked her about America’s kids. Plus, Hayley tries to understand the Dallas Cowboys, Joy breaks down 30 years of fan delusion, and this week’s Personally, Would You Rather is truly diabolical.

00:00 Intro
00:30 Welcome to Two Personal
00:43 Spex Gets His First Internet Dragging
01:38 Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show: Megan Thee Stallion Steals the Show
04:59 Another School Shooting & the Bulletproof Classroom
07:51 The Question an Irish Tour Guide Asked Joy
09:44 “I’m Not Anti-Gun”
11:51 Do We Actually Care About Kids?
15:29 “It’s Not the Guns, It’s the People”
17:10 Will Anything Ever Change?
20:24 Metal Detectors in High School
20:54 Hayley Tries to Understand the Dallas Cowboys
22:26 Jerry Jones & 30 Years Without a Conference Championship
24:07 The Cowboys Fan Delusion Cycle
26:53 Personally, Would You Rather
30:30 Outro

Joy Taylor, Hayley, and Spex are back. Spex catches his first internet dragging, and the crew can&rsquo;t stop talking about Megan Thee Stallion at the Victoria&rsquo;s Secret Fashion Show. Then things get real after another school shooting, this time in Bend, Oregon. Hayley shares her perspective as a parent of an elementary schooler, and Joy recalls the question an Irish tour guide asked her about America&rsquo;s kids. Plus, Hayley tries to understand the Dallas Cowboys, Joy breaks down 30 years of fan delusion, and this week&rsquo;s Personally, Would You Rather is truly diabolical.
00:00 Intro 00:30 Welcome to Two Personal 00:43 Spex Gets His First Internet Dragging 01:38 Victoria&rsquo;s Secret Fashion Show: Megan Thee Stallion Steals the Show 04:59 Another School Shooting &amp; the Bulletproof Classroom 07:51 The Question an Irish Tour Guide Asked Joy 09:44 &ldquo;I&rsquo;m Not Anti-Gun&rdquo; 11:51 Do We Actually Care About Kids? 15:29 &ldquo;It&rsquo;s Not the Guns, It&rsquo;s the People&rdquo; 17:10 Will Anything Ever Change? 20:24 Metal Detectors in High School 20:54 Hayley Tries to Understand the Dallas Cowboys 22:26 Jerry Jones &amp; 30 Years Without a Conference Championship 24:07 The Cowboys Fan Delusion Cycle 26:53 Personally, Would You Rather 30:30 Outro

Megan Thee Stallion Shut Down the VS Fashion Show, America’s Gun Problem & The Cowboys Delusion

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Joy Taylor checks in from New York City (with a special guest appearance by Dexter) alongside Hayley and Spex. The crew reacts to the viral list of the worst things men have said to women, and Joy shares three of her own, including one that still stings. Then: tip prompt fatigue, why corporations are the real problem, and Joy’s non-negotiable rules for group dinners (Venmo before you get up from the table). Plus a toilet meme that has everyone asking questions, and a Personally, Would You Rather that gets real about friends, partners, and the people wearing masks in your life.

0:00 Open

0:19 Welcome From NYC

1:36 Worst Things Men Have Said to Women

3:55 “My Girlfriend’s Going to See”

5:34 “You Make Me Wish I Hadn’t Gotten Divorced”

6:53 The Trophy Pregnancy

7:42 Why Men Just Blurt It Out

10:08 Spex’ Turn: “You Suck at Being Yourself”

11:52 Tip Prompt Fatigue

16:29 Blame the Corporations, Not the Workers

18:19 The Rules of Group Dinners

24:25 Splitwise Saves Girls Trips

25:17 The Toilet Meme

28:00 “I Like a Really Grown Man”

30:19 Can I Use the Bathroom in Peace?

34:05 Personally, Would You Rather

38:42 The Mask Analogy

41:10 Would You Warn Your Homie’s Girl?

42:11 Why Joy Took the Wife’s Side

45:20 Outro

Joy Taylor checks in from New York City (with a special guest appearance by Dexter) alongside Hayley and Spex. The crew reacts to the viral list of the worst things men have said to women, and Joy shares three of her own, including one that still stings. Then: tip prompt fatigue, why corporations are the real problem, and Joy&rsquo;s non-negotiable rules for group dinners (Venmo before you get up from the table). Plus a toilet meme that has everyone asking questions, and a Personally, Would You Rather that gets real about friends, partners, and the people wearing masks in your life.
0:00 Open
0:19 Welcome From NYC
1:36 Worst Things Men Have Said to Women
3:55 &ldquo;My Girlfriend&rsquo;s Going to See&rdquo;
5:34 &ldquo;You Make Me Wish I Hadn&rsquo;t Gotten Divorced&rdquo;
6:53 The Trophy Pregnancy
7:42 Why Men Just Blurt It Out
10:08 Spex&rsquo; Turn: &ldquo;You Suck at Being Yourself&rdquo;
11:52 Tip Prompt Fatigue
16:29 Blame the Corporations, Not the Workers
18:19 The Rules of Group Dinners
24:25 Splitwise Saves Girls Trips
25:17 The Toilet Meme
28:00 &ldquo;I Like a Really Grown Man&rdquo;
30:19 Can I Use the Bathroom in Peace?
34:05 Personally, Would You Rather
38:42 The Mask Analogy
41:10 Would You Warn Your Homie&rsquo;s Girl?
42:11 Why Joy Took the Wife&rsquo;s Side
45:20 Outro

The Worst Things Men Have Said to Women, Tipping Culture & Relationship Red Flags

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Joy Taylor and Hayley are back with a lot to say. First up is Shane Gillis' SNL monologue and his joke about how women dress at the gym. Joy has been to a Shane show and thinks he's a genuinely funny comedian, but she says this joke was lazy and out of touch, and it came at a time when women are already furious. She also opens up about the comments she gets about her own body online.

Then the girls share their oddly specific turn-ons: nap partners, clean wallets, someone who knows your food order, and more. After that, Joy reacts to Katie Zacharia's first White House press briefing and makes the case that the people in charge are supposed to be serious. The episode closes with a tough round of Personally, Would You Rather: would you change one major decision from your past, or see the outcome of every big decision before you make it?

00:00 Open

00:26 Welcome to Two Personal

00:39 Shane Gillis' SNL Monologue

06:00 "I Am Obese to the Internet"

07:24 Gym Rules: Mind Your Business

12:46 Oddly Specific Turn-Ons

22:39 Katie Zacharia's First White House Briefing

31:24 Apathy, Algorithms & Democracy

34:03 Personally, Would You Rather

40:15 Wrap-Up

Joy Taylor and Hayley are back with a lot to say. First up is Shane Gillis' SNL monologue and his joke about how women dress at the gym. Joy has been to a Shane show and thinks he's a genuinely funny comedian, but she says this joke was lazy and out of touch, and it came at a time when women are already furious. She also opens up about the comments she gets about her own body online.
Then the girls share their oddly specific turn-ons: nap partners, clean wallets, someone who knows your food order, and more. After that, Joy reacts to Katie Zacharia's first White House press briefing and makes the case that the people in charge are supposed to be serious. The episode closes with a tough round of Personally, Would You Rather: would you change one major decision from your past, or see the outcome of every big decision before you make it?
00:00 Open
00:26 Welcome to Two Personal
00:39 Shane Gillis' SNL Monologue
06:00 "I Am Obese to the Internet"
07:24 Gym Rules: Mind Your Business
12:46 Oddly Specific Turn-Ons
22:39 Katie Zacharia's First White House Briefing
31:24 Apathy, Algorithms &amp; Democracy
34:03 Personally, Would You Rather
40:15 Wrap-Up

Shane Gillis' SNL Joke About Women, Trump's Press Secretary Gets DRAGGED & What Really Turns Us On

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Joy, Hayley and Spex get into why more women are choosing to be child-free and what it actually costs to raise a kid right now. Joy weighs in on the Living Single vs. Girlfriends attractiveness debate, and Hayley shares that she’s starting therapy. Joy also talks about consent, why having a Black woman therapist matters to her, and why nobody wants to leave the house anymore. Plus a Would You Rather: change millions of lives, or the lives of the people closest to you?

0:00 Welcome

0:57 Why more women are choosing to be child-free

5:45 What it costs to raise a kid now

10:30 The impossible parent schedule

13:28 "Y'all don't care about these kids"

16:23 Living Single vs. Girlfriends debate

22:14 "You're only on TV because you're beautiful"

25:05 Hayley is starting therapy

27:47 Joy on consent and the "enthusiastic yes"

32:12 Spex on therapy in the Black community

34:35 Why Joy chose a Black woman therapist

37:37 Loving being alone a little too much

39:18 Why nobody goes out anymore

41:13 Bringing back Sunday dinner

45:55 Joy's dad and Pre-Paid Legal

46:40 The silent book club

48:07 Would You Rather: millions or the people closest to you

49:34 "None of us are going to be remembered"

55:21 Spex who invented the spoon?

58:16 Outro

Joy, Hayley and Spex get into why more women are choosing to be child-free and what it actually costs to raise a kid right now. Joy weighs in on the Living Single vs. Girlfriends attractiveness debate, and Hayley shares that she&rsquo;s starting therapy. Joy also talks about consent, why having a Black woman therapist matters to her, and why nobody wants to leave the house anymore. Plus a Would You Rather: change millions of lives, or the lives of the people closest to you?
0:00 Welcome
0:57 Why more women are choosing to be child-free
5:45 What it costs to raise a kid now
10:30 The impossible parent schedule
13:28 "Y'all don't care about these kids"
16:23 Living Single vs. Girlfriends debate
22:14 "You're only on TV because you're beautiful"
25:05 Hayley is starting therapy
27:47 Joy on consent and the "enthusiastic yes"
32:12 Spex on therapy in the Black community
34:35 Why Joy chose a Black woman therapist
37:37 Loving being alone a little too much
39:18 Why nobody goes out anymore
41:13 Bringing back Sunday dinner
45:55 Joy's dad and Pre-Paid Legal
46:40 The silent book club
48:07 Would You Rather: millions or the people closest to you
49:34 "None of us are going to be remembered"
55:21 Spex who invented the spoon?
58:16 Outro

Living Single vs. Girlfriends Debate, Why Women Are Going Child-Free & Starting Therapy

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Joy Taylor is on the road, and she and Hayley have a lot to get into.

First up: actor Da'Vinchi's viral sit-down with Cam Newton on Funky Friday. The BMF star said people in higher positions can't trust the American work ethic and agreed there's a stigma about how people from the Caribbean, Africa and the UK view Black Americans. Joy had never heard of him before this interview, and she has thoughts: he was born and raised in Brooklyn, he's paid to play Black American characters, and for her the whole conversation comes back to one thing, proximity to whiteness.

Then Joy and Hayley react to President Trump's comments about Los Angeles and San Diego at his Nebraska rally, the crowd that cheered, and why Joy says these midterms matter more than ever.

Plus: Savannah James and her best friend April McDaniel have the internet arguing about plane seats. Joy explains the real difference between business and first class, why money boundaries keep friendships alive, and what she learned the hard way about people who expect you to pay.

Also: Dara is the GOAT. The scene from The Drop: A Snowfall Saga that has everyone talking about yearning, and why Joy says you will never catch her doing it. (Spoilers ahead.)

And in Personally, Would You Rather: win the lottery, or get three wishes from a genie that can't involve money?

0:00 Joy's on the road

0:41 Da'Vinchi on Funky Friday with Cam Newton

2:31 "Sorry to this man"

4:28 Joy's problem with the "lazy Americans" talk

6:48 It all comes back to proximity to whiteness

11:50 Who's cutting his check?

12:36 What the conversation was missing: nuance and empathy

16:08 Trump's Los Angeles and San Diego comments

19:33 California keeps other states afloat

21:51 Why the midterms matter

22:47 Hayley's reaction

24:49 Savannah James and April McDaniel's plane seat debate

26:54 Would Joy put Hayley in first class?

28:44 Business class vs. first class, explained

31:38 Money boundaries when you're the friend who made it

35:29 "I have lived this"

38:53 Keep people out of your financial business

40:51 Dara is the GOAT (The Drop spoilers)

42:06 Would Joy ever shoot her shot like that?

43:13 The quickest way to lose a man

47:52 Will Wanda want Leon back?

48:46 Personally, Would You Rather

51:41 Outro

Joy Taylor is on the road, and she and Hayley have a lot to get into.
First up: actor Da'Vinchi's viral sit-down with Cam Newton on Funky Friday. The BMF star said people in higher positions can't trust the American work ethic and agreed there's a stigma about how people from the Caribbean, Africa and the UK view Black Americans. Joy had never heard of him before this interview, and she has thoughts: he was born and raised in Brooklyn, he's paid to play Black American characters, and for her the whole conversation comes back to one thing, proximity to whiteness.
Then Joy and Hayley react to President Trump's comments about Los Angeles and San Diego at his Nebraska rally, the crowd that cheered, and why Joy says these midterms matter more than ever.
Plus: Savannah James and her best friend April McDaniel have the internet arguing about plane seats. Joy explains the real difference between business and first class, why money boundaries keep friendships alive, and what she learned the hard way about people who expect you to pay.
Also: Dara is the GOAT. The scene from The Drop: A Snowfall Saga that has everyone talking about yearning, and why Joy says you will never catch her doing it. (Spoilers ahead.)
And in Personally, Would You Rather: win the lottery, or get three wishes from a genie that can't involve money?
0:00 Joy's on the road
0:41 Da'Vinchi on Funky Friday with Cam Newton
2:31 "Sorry to this man"
4:28 Joy's problem with the "lazy Americans" talk
6:48 It all comes back to proximity to whiteness
11:50 Who's cutting his check?
12:36 What the conversation was missing: nuance and empathy
16:08 Trump's Los Angeles and San Diego comments
19:33 California keeps other states afloat
21:51 Why the midterms matter
22:47 Hayley's reaction
24:49 Savannah James and April McDaniel's plane seat debate
26:54 Would Joy put Hayley in first class?
28:44 Business class vs. first class, explained
31:38 Money boundaries when you're the friend who made it
35:29 "I have lived this"
38:53 Keep people out of your financial business
40:51 Dara is the GOAT (The Drop spoilers)
42:06 Would Joy ever shoot her shot like that?
43:13 The quickest way to lose a man
47:52 Will Wanda want Leon back?
48:46 Personally, Would You Rather
51:41 Outro

Da'Vinchi Calls Us Lazy, Trump vs. LA & Savannah's Plane Seat & Dara's GOATED Scene in The Drop

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Trad wives are walking away, and Joy Taylor has thoughts. Joy, Hayley and Spex break down the "de-trading" trend and why Joy says a trad wife influencer was never traditional to begin with. Joy shares why her older sister, who chose the traditional life, is one of the most successful people she knows, and why every woman needs her own money no matter what life she chooses.

Then: why do cheaters keep lying even after they're caught red-handed? Joy tells one of the most notorious lies she's ever been told. Plus, this week's Would You Rather: $1 million cash today, or go back to 18 with everything you know now?

00:00 Open

00:28 Welcome to Two Personal

00:46 Trad Wives Are Walking Away

02:00 Why a "Trad Wife Influencer" Is an Oxymoron

05:50 Taking the Best of Both Worlds

06:25 Thank Feminism for That

07:40 Joy's Sister: The Traditional Life Done Right

09:09 "You're the Propaganda"

11:07 Walking Contradictions

12:00 Why Every Woman Needs Her Own Money

14:32 The Swing Back & Accountability

18:05 Why Do Cheaters Keep Lying When They're Caught?

21:13 Joy's Most Notorious Lie

25:05 Joy: The Fork In The Road Moment

27:51 Compulsive Liars

29:14 When Is a Lie Forgivable? Manti Te'o

31:25 Kids Can't Lie

33:04 Would You Rather: $1M or Back to 18?

35:19 Growing Up Before Social Media

37:52 A Life Full of Stories + Outro

Trad wives are walking away, and Joy Taylor has thoughts. Joy, Hayley and Spex break down the "de-trading" trend and why Joy says a trad wife influencer was never traditional to begin with. Joy shares why her older sister, who chose the traditional life, is one of the most successful people she knows, and why every woman needs her own money no matter what life she chooses.
Then: why do cheaters keep lying even after they're caught red-handed? Joy tells one of the most notorious lies she's ever been told. Plus, this week's Would You Rather: $1 million cash today, or go back to 18 with everything you know now?
00:00 Open
00:28 Welcome to Two Personal
00:46 Trad Wives Are Walking Away
02:00 Why a "Trad Wife Influencer" Is an Oxymoron
05:50 Taking the Best of Both Worlds
06:25 Thank Feminism for That
07:40 Joy's Sister: The Traditional Life Done Right
09:09 "You're the Propaganda"
11:07 Walking Contradictions
12:00 Why Every Woman Needs Her Own Money
14:32 The Swing Back &amp; Accountability
18:05 Why Do Cheaters Keep Lying When They're Caught?
21:13 Joy's Most Notorious Lie
25:05 Joy: The Fork In The Road Moment
27:51 Compulsive Liars
29:14 When Is a Lie Forgivable? Manti Te'o
31:25 Kids Can't Lie
33:04 Would You Rather: $1M or Back to 18?
35:19 Growing Up Before Social Media
37:52 A Life Full of Stories + Outro

Trad Wives Are Quitting, "It's Not What It Looks Like" & $1M vs. Being 18 Again

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** This episode includes discussion of SA .

Joy Taylor, Hayley and Spex take on a heavy week of news. First up is the Cornell 7 lawsuit. A former student is suing the university, a fraternity and seven current or former members over an alleged 2024 assault. That leads into a deeper conversation about victim blaming, institutional failure, the 57 men in the group chat who did nothing, and what parents of boys need to be teaching at home. Joy looks back on the buddy-system rules she and her friends lived by in college 20+ years ago, and why nothing has changed.

Then the crew reacts to Nicki Minaj's Fox interview with Lara Trump and her comments on Democrats and pop culture. That turns into a real-talk plea ahead of the midterms: register, research your ballot, ask questions, and stop taking political cues from celebrities.

 Plus, this week's Would You Rather: expose your search history or your camera roll? It goes exactly where you think it goes.

 

00:00 Open

00:36 Welcome to Two Personal

01:04 Full Moon, Fall Equinox & a Fresh Week of News

01:55 The Cornell 7 Lawsuit

05:57 Who Institutions Really Protect

06:43 "It's Always 100% the Perpetrator's Fault"

09:02 False Accusations & Accountability

10:48 The Instant What-Aboutism

12:02 57 Men in the Group Chat

14:24 The "Men Are Protectors" Myth

18:08 A Message to Boy Moms

19:04 Women's Role in Upholding the System

20:30 Joy's College Days & the Buddy System

24:52 Promising Young Woman

25:47 Emmett Till & the History of False Accusations

28:21 In the Vortex

30:02 Sidebar: No Sleepovers

30:24 Nicki Minaj's Fox Interview

34:10 AI, "End Times" & Getting Serious About Politics

36:40 The Midterms Are a Month Away

37:24 Why Joy Always Votes

40:40 Spex Weighs In

42:04 When Did Asking Questions Become Shameful?

44:13 Those AI Migos Videos

45:00 Would You Rather: Search History or Camera Roll?

46:30 Sending Pics

49:41 The Unrequested Pic & Spex' H&M Story

51:36 The Selfie Test

52:42 Embarrassing Searches & the ChatGPT Roast Trend

54:04 Hayley's Spider-Man Mom Requests

54:21 Outro

** This episode includes discussion of SA .
Joy Taylor, Hayley and Spex take on a heavy week of news. First up is the Cornell 7 lawsuit. A former student is suing the university, a fraternity and seven current or former members over an alleged 2024 assault. That leads into a deeper conversation about victim blaming, institutional failure, the 57 men in the group chat who did nothing, and what parents of boys need to be teaching at home. Joy looks back on the buddy-system rules she and her friends lived by in college 20+ years ago, and why nothing has changed.
Then the crew reacts to Nicki Minaj's Fox interview with Lara Trump and her comments on Democrats and pop culture. That turns into a real-talk plea ahead of the midterms: register, research your ballot, ask questions, and stop taking political cues from celebrities.
&nbsp;Plus, this week's Would You Rather: expose your search history or your camera roll? It goes exactly where you think it goes.
&nbsp;
00:00 Open
00:36 Welcome to Two Personal
01:04 Full Moon, Fall Equinox &amp; a Fresh Week of News
01:55 The Cornell 7 Lawsuit
05:57 Who Institutions Really Protect
06:43 "It's Always 100% the Perpetrator's Fault"
09:02 False Accusations &amp; Accountability
10:48 The Instant What-Aboutism
12:02 57 Men in the Group Chat
14:24 The "Men Are Protectors" Myth
18:08 A Message to Boy Moms
19:04 Women's Role in Upholding the System
20:30 Joy's College Days &amp; the Buddy System
24:52 Promising Young Woman
25:47 Emmett Till &amp; the History of False Accusations
28:21 In the Vortex
30:02 Sidebar: No Sleepovers
30:24 Nicki Minaj's Fox Interview
34:10 AI, "End Times" &amp; Getting Serious About Politics
36:40 The Midterms Are a Month Away
37:24 Why Joy Always Votes
40:40 Spex Weighs In
42:04 When Did Asking Questions Become Shameful?
44:13 Those AI Migos Videos
45:00 Would You Rather: Search History or Camera Roll?
46:30 Sending Pics
49:41 The Unrequested Pic &amp; Spex' H&amp;M Story
51:36 The Selfie Test
52:42 Embarrassing Searches &amp; the ChatGPT Roast Trend
54:04 Hayley's Spider-Man Mom Requests
54:21 Outro

The Cornell 7, Nicki Minaj's Fox Interview, and Who's Hiding What in Their Camera Roll

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Trump bans CNN, MSNBC, and Politico from the White House — and even Fox is pulling out of pool coverage. Joy and Hayley break down what it means for a free press (and drop a few names of history's worst dictators along the way). Then: Jake and Logan Paul show up at the Pentagon to address troops, Gen Z's TikTok campaign wants millennials to retire so they can move up (absolutely not), and Joy tells the story of her "Witch Era" — the night a guy sat down uninvited at her table and got scared off with one line. Then rapper/actor Symba joins the couch to talk playing Tiptoe on FX's The Drop, the Snowfall spinoff carrying one of TV's great sagas forward and how the role almost went differently, what he learned on set, and how the music industry's obsession with virality is leaving real experience behind. Capping it off with Never Two Personal: a year in prison, or a lifetime with a bad baby mama or baby daddy?

 

00:53 – Welcome & Intro

01:11 – Trump Bans CNN, MSNBC & Politico

11:58 – The Paul Brothers Visit the Pentagon

14:31 – Symba Joins the Show

14:34 – Symba Talks Playing Tiptoe on Snowfall's The Drop

32:25 – Gen Z Wants Millennials to Retire (Symba Talks Music Industry)

49:01 – Joy's Witch Era Story

1:02:06 – Never Two Personal: Jail vs. Bad Baby Mama/Daddy

1:15:08 – Outro

Trump bans CNN, MSNBC, and Politico from the White House &mdash; and even Fox is pulling out of pool coverage. Joy and Hayley break down what it means for a free press (and drop a few names of history's worst dictators along the way). Then: Jake and Logan Paul show up at the Pentagon to address troops, Gen Z's TikTok campaign wants millennials to retire so they can move up (absolutely not), and Joy tells the story of her "Witch Era" &mdash; the night a guy sat down uninvited at her table and got scared off with one line. Then rapper/actor Symba joins the couch to talk playing Tiptoe on FX's The Drop, the Snowfall spinoff carrying one of TV's great sagas forward and how the role almost went differently, what he learned on set, and how the music industry's obsession with virality is leaving real experience behind. Capping it off with Never Two Personal: a year in prison, or a lifetime with a bad baby mama or baby daddy?
&nbsp;
00:53 &ndash; Welcome &amp; Intro
01:11 &ndash; Trump Bans CNN, MSNBC &amp; Politico
11:58 &ndash; The Paul Brothers Visit the Pentagon
14:31 &ndash; Symba Joins the Show
14:34 &ndash; Symba Talks Playing Tiptoe on Snowfall's The Drop
32:25 &ndash; Gen Z Wants Millennials to Retire (Symba Talks Music Industry)
49:01 &ndash; Joy's Witch Era Story
1:02:06 &ndash; Never Two Personal: Jail vs. Bad Baby Mama/Daddy
1:15:08 &ndash; Outro

Trump Bans CNN, Paul Brothers at the Pentagon, Symba Talks Snowfall's The Drop

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It's been quite the week, so we're pouring the rosé and getting into it. On this episode of Two Personal, Joy and Hayley break down Sydney Sweeney's latest ad controversy, the AI regulation panic from tech's biggest names, Aaron Rodgers' wild podcast confessions about his exes, Jasmine Crockett honoring Chris Brown in Congress, Macklemore's Free Palestine stand on the Ed Sheeran tour, and their most unbearable icks. Plus — a brand new segment: Would You Rather.

00:39 Intro + Rosé

01:15 Weekend Recap

02:07 Sydney Sweeney's Betting Ad Controversy

08:24 AI Regulation & the "Overlords"

16:03 Aaron Rodgers Airs Out Shailene Woodley & Danica Patrick

31:48 Jasmine Crockett Honors Chris Brown in Congress

39:01 Macklemore, Ed Sheeran & Free Palestine

53:39 Never Two Personal: Icks 

1:03:18 NEW SEGMENT: Would You Rather

1:05:56 Wrap Up

It's been quite the week, so we're pouring the ros&eacute; and getting into it. On this episode of Two Personal, Joy and Hayley break down Sydney Sweeney's latest ad controversy, the AI regulation panic from tech's biggest names, Aaron Rodgers' wild podcast confessions about his exes, Jasmine Crockett honoring Chris Brown in Congress, Macklemore's Free Palestine stand on the Ed Sheeran tour, and their most unbearable icks. Plus &mdash; a brand new segment: Would You Rather.
00:39 Intro + Ros&eacute;
01:15 Weekend Recap
02:07 Sydney Sweeney's Betting Ad Controversy
08:24 AI Regulation &amp; the "Overlords"
16:03 Aaron Rodgers Airs Out Shailene Woodley &amp; Danica Patrick
31:48 Jasmine Crockett Honors Chris Brown in Congress
39:01 Macklemore, Ed Sheeran &amp; Free Palestine
53:39 Never Two Personal: Icks&nbsp;
1:03:18 NEW SEGMENT: Would You Rather
1:05:56 Wrap Up

Sydney Sweeney, Aaron Rodgers, Chris Brown, Ed Sheeran, Macklemore & the AI Panic

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Emmy-winning director, executive producer and showrunner Trishtan Williams joins Joy Taylor on Two Personal! From directing Life in the W and Starting Five to producing America's Next Top Model, The Amazing Race, and Love Is Blind, Trish has run point on some of the biggest sets in TV. She opens up about earning the trust of A-list athletes, her directing philosophy, raising her son while running major shows, and why vulnerability on camera is more important than people know. 

0:00 Intro & meet Trishtan Williams
1:57 Welcome to Two Personal
2:09 Why Trish almost became a doctor instead
4:25 How she got into production in 2005
6:03 Advice for young women breaking into the industry
8:03 Her first big shows: ANTM & The Amazing Race
9:34 Her directorial style: "I lead with honey"
10:33 Dealing with people who take advantage of kindness
13:23 Has the industry overcorrected on sensitivity?
14:11 How she earns trust with A-list athletes
16:02 "I'm the queen of talent"
18:59 Crew acting like fans: "You're not talent"
20:43 Why reading the room (and customer service) matters
23:14 There's no secret to success
24:46 Inside Joy's 2 years on Undisputed with Skip & Shannon
26:46 The sacrifice she refused to make as a mom
29:11 Turning 40 and becoming an empty nester
30:01 Life in the W and the CBA storyline nobody could script
32:16 Why storytelling turns athletes into cultural icons
34:50 Directing A'ja Wilson through a real vulnerable moment
37:16 The conversation she has with talent before filming
38:36 Every story needs a villain — sometimes it's the weather
39:14 "I don't need to create drama, life is drama"
40:44 Real anxiety after filming: the Caitlin Clark/Fever tension
43:22 Why athletes are the new celebrities
43:52 Vulnerability isn't rewarded — and that's the problem
45:38 Why it's harder to talk about yourself than someone else
46:17 We'd never say online insults to someone's face
47:42 Your environment shapes how you think
51:07 What's next
52:57 Birthday plans & where to follow Trish

Emmy-winning director, executive producer and showrunner Trishtan Williams joins Joy Taylor on Two Personal! From directing Life in the W and Starting Five to producing America's Next Top Model, The Amazing Race, and Love Is Blind, Trish has run point on some of the biggest sets in TV. She opens up about earning the trust of A-list athletes, her directing philosophy, raising her son while running major shows, and why vulnerability on camera is more important than people know.&nbsp;
0:00 Intro &amp; meet Trishtan Williams 1:57 Welcome to Two Personal 2:09 Why Trish almost became a doctor instead 4:25 How she got into production in 2005 6:03 Advice for young women breaking into the industry 8:03 Her first big shows: ANTM &amp; The Amazing Race 9:34 Her directorial style: "I lead with honey" 10:33 Dealing with people who take advantage of kindness 13:23 Has the industry overcorrected on sensitivity? 14:11 How she earns trust with A-list athletes 16:02 "I'm the queen of talent" 18:59 Crew acting like fans: "You're not talent" 20:43 Why reading the room (and customer service) matters 23:14 There's no secret to success 24:46 Inside Joy's 2 years on Undisputed with Skip &amp; Shannon 26:46 The sacrifice she refused to make as a mom 29:11 Turning 40 and becoming an empty nester 30:01 Life in the W and the CBA storyline nobody could script 32:16 Why storytelling turns athletes into cultural icons 34:50 Directing A'ja Wilson through a real vulnerable moment 37:16 The conversation she has with talent before filming 38:36 Every story needs a villain &mdash; sometimes it's the weather 39:14 "I don't need to create drama, life is drama" 40:44 Real anxiety after filming: the Caitlin Clark/Fever tension 43:22 Why athletes are the new celebrities 43:52 Vulnerability isn't rewarded &mdash; and that's the problem 45:38 Why it's harder to talk about yourself than someone else 46:17 We'd never say online insults to someone's face 47:42 Your environment shapes how you think 51:07 What's next 52:57 Birthday plans &amp; where to follow Trish

Emmy Award-Winning Trishtan Williams Gets Real About Fame, Motherhood & Running the WNBA's Life in the W

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Finally, a podcast that gets brutally honest about the toughest conversations we need to have. The groundbreaking new show Two Personal facilitates thoughtful dialogue on hot-button topics. TV Personality Joy Taylor tackles these conversations head-on, getting candid in a way typically reserved for your inner circle. With equal parts humor and wisdom, Joy chats about culture and social issues. Unafraid to explore complex topics like racism, sexism, and mental health, she advances these conversations with nuance and compassion.

Two Personal with Joy Taylor

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