It's in the news today, but it was actually on TV Reload the podcast past week that line.

It's in the news today, but it was actually on TV Reload the podcast past week that line.

Welcome back, guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get all the inside goss on the popular TV shows that you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, and yet very little is known about how our favorite shows get made. So each episode I've been finding the guests that want to dive just that little bit deeper into the shows that they're currently making, so that you can hear all their exclusive stories and gain access to some of the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank you for downloading or subscribing to my podcast however you've found me. I love hearing your feedback, so if you can leave a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. On today's episode of TV Reload, I'm joined by doctor Kate from the Real Housewives of Sydney, who I think is the breakout star from the rebooted Sydney version of the popular Housewives franchise. Doctor Kate Adams is an expert on pets and science. She is the owner of Bondi Vet Hospital, well TV presenter and now the Queen of Australian Housewives series. Kate will explain that she thought that she'd be the mushroom on the side of the plate with her daring decision to join the Sydney socialites on Foxtail and Binge's reality series, and it will be interesting to unpack what she thinks of the fans who have really taken to her. On this series of the show, I will find out how doctor Kate was cast and why she worried about signing onto a Housewives franchise. Doctor Kate will discuss fergate and will also explain exactly what she was thinking as Victoria decided to wearfer to an animal conservation park. I will also find out if Kate will return to another series and how she feels being compared to Gina Liano. Whilst we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of the Real Housewives of Sydney, which drops on Tuesday nights until it finishes on Binge and Foxtail. Anyway, let's bring Doctor Kate into the podcast and guys, I hope you really enjoy this exciting chat with one of my favorite new reality TV stars.

Welcome back, guys to TV Reload. As you may know, my name is Benjamin Norris and this is your podcast to get all the inside goss on the popular TV shows that you may be watching from around the world. Undeniably, our TV sets are a major part of our home entertainment, and yet very little is known about how our favorite shows get made. So each episode I've been finding the guests that want to dive just that little bit deeper into the shows that they're currently making, so that you can hear all their exclusive stories and gain access to some of the biggest names in Australian television. I want to thank you for downloading or subscribing to my podcast however you've found me. I love hearing your feedback, so if you can leave a review or a comment on your chosen podcast platform. On today's episode of TV Reload, I'm joined by doctor Kate from the Real Housewives of Sydney, who I think is the breakout star from the rebooted Sydney version of the popular Housewives franchise. Doctor Kate Adams is an expert on pets and science. She is the owner of Bondi Vet Hospital, well TV presenter and now the Queen of Australian Housewives series. Kate will explain that she thought that she'd be the mushroom on the side of the plate with her daring decision to join the Sydney socialites on Foxtail and Binge's reality series, and it will be interesting to unpack what she thinks of the fans who have really taken to her. On this series of the show, I will find out how doctor Kate was cast and why she worried about signing onto a Housewives franchise. Doctor Kate will discuss fergate and will also explain exactly what she was thinking as Victoria decided to wearfer to an animal conservation park. I will also find out if Kate will return to another series and how she feels being compared to Gina Liano. Whilst we will get plenty of exclusives from behind the scenes of the Real Housewives of Sydney, which drops on Tuesday nights until it finishes on Binge and Foxtail. Anyway, let's bring Doctor Kate into the podcast and guys, I hope you really enjoy this exciting chat with one of my favorite new reality TV stars.

Hi Van, how are you?

Hi Van, how are you?

I'm very excited to be talking to you. I'm very well, thanks for having me.

I'm very excited to be talking to you. I'm very well, thanks for having me.

I'm very excited too.

I'm very excited too.

You know that you are the queen of reality television in my home for twenty twenty three. I didn't see this coming, but we, my partner and I were obsessed with you.

You know that you are the queen of reality television in my home for twenty twenty three. I didn't see this coming, but we, my partner and I were obsessed with you.

Ah, that is so lovely. Look to be honest with you, Ben, I really didn't see it coming either. I was planning on being the mushroom on the side, and then I was like, oh, here we are.

Ah, that is so lovely. Look to be honest with you, Ben, I really didn't see it coming either. I was planning on being the mushroom on the side, and then I was like, oh, here we are.

We are I just I don't think I've always been drawn to assertive women, But do you think the world has changed in the sense that you can now be a woman in control and not be played off as a bitch.

We are I just I don't think I've always been drawn to assertive women, But do you think the world has changed in the sense that you can now be a woman in control and not be played off as a bitch.

Look, I think it's definitely changing. I don't know if it's completely changed. I think that we have come a long way, and you know what, I think that there are enough voices out there telling me that, yes, that is where we're at to think, Okay, well that's where we're headed, right. I think they're still the Hangar Honors, particularly in Australia, but probably also in the us as well, where they're really sort of hanging onto this like you're not a housewife, and I'm like, guys, I got a house, I clean clean it.

Look, I think it's definitely changing. I don't know if it's completely changed. I think that we have come a long way, and you know what, I think that there are enough voices out there telling me that, yes, that is where we're at to think, Okay, well that's where we're headed, right. I think they're still the Hangar Honors, particularly in Australia, but probably also in the us as well, where they're really sort of hanging onto this like you're not a housewife, and I'm like, guys, I got a house, I clean clean it.

I think, you know, that's what's so interesting about this franchise is that where it started was that you needed to have a husband who made a lot of money. Where here we are in twenty twenty three and you are the breadwinner. You you have all of the cachet and it's all rolled into one who needs a man.

I think, you know, that's what's so interesting about this franchise is that where it started was that you needed to have a husband who made a lot of money. Where here we are in twenty twenty three and you are the breadwinner. You you have all of the cachet and it's all rolled into one who needs a man.

Yeah, I think we're kind of moving towards that, and you sort of seeing the franchises around the world were starting to move into this new era of housewives where you know, it's celebrating women and the you know, the successful in their own right. And I think that's that's that's amazing really. I mean you look at the New York Housewives these days, and yeah, it's a new generation and your housewives reimagined.

Yeah, I think we're kind of moving towards that, and you sort of seeing the franchises around the world were starting to move into this new era of housewives where you know, it's celebrating women and the you know, the successful in their own right. And I think that's that's that's amazing really. I mean you look at the New York Housewives these days, and yeah, it's a new generation and your housewives reimagined.

You are also the housewife to your cats at home.

You are also the housewife to your cats at home.

So exactly just because my children do not have skin, they have fur.

So exactly just because my children do not have skin, they have fur.

What I thought was amazing was you going on that date with that man. Did the uses go and pick like a man who was very flawed for you to chew up and spit out like how did that happen? Or did you or it.

What I thought was amazing was you going on that date with that man. Did the uses go and pick like a man who was very flawed for you to chew up and spit out like how did that happen? Or did you or it.

Really wasn't a setup. It wasn't So the guy wasn't an actor. He was a real gentleman that was actually on a dating app. Look, he was originally chosen, like he was set up through a dating app on with the producer. Yeah, so that happened with the producer. So I'm sure there was some degree of like, well, you know, I had specifically said, you know, would it be okay if you could try and find someone that doesn't make me look like a giraffe? And he they said yeah, sure. And actually, prior to the date, I said, do you reckon I could wear really tall heels, like how tall is he? Because I just it's not necessarily about him being short. And I think there was that whole sort of thing about you know, Kate, like so discriminatory, and I was like, no, guys, it makes me feel like a giraffe. And so I had said, look, you know, can I wear giant heels? And they said yeah, he's six foot four, So there's some degree there off. You know, someone had obviously said let's just tell her this, so they obviously he knew, but was it technically a setup? No?

Really wasn't a setup. It wasn't So the guy wasn't an actor. He was a real gentleman that was actually on a dating app. Look, he was originally chosen, like he was set up through a dating app on with the producer. Yeah, so that happened with the producer. So I'm sure there was some degree of like, well, you know, I had specifically said, you know, would it be okay if you could try and find someone that doesn't make me look like a giraffe? And he they said yeah, sure. And actually, prior to the date, I said, do you reckon I could wear really tall heels, like how tall is he? Because I just it's not necessarily about him being short. And I think there was that whole sort of thing about you know, Kate, like so discriminatory, and I was like, no, guys, it makes me feel like a giraffe. And so I had said, look, you know, can I wear giant heels? And they said yeah, he's six foot four, So there's some degree there off. You know, someone had obviously said let's just tell her this, so they obviously he knew, but was it technically a setup? No?

Yeah, right, I mean you could have found him, you could have married him, he could have been the man of your dreams.

Yeah, right, I mean you could have found him, you could have married him, he could have been the man of your dreams.

Right, And I was hoping for that, I thought, and I think that that that, to be honest with you, how they had originally hoped it because they had this hope that maybe I was going to become non single by the end of the series and everyone would like clap clap and be like, oh wow, doctor Katis finally found himself a man.

Right, And I was hoping for that, I thought, and I think that that that, to be honest with you, how they had originally hoped it because they had this hope that maybe I was going to become non single by the end of the series and everyone would like clap clap and be like, oh wow, doctor Katis finally found himself a man.

Then you'd have to have all some of these housewives as bridesmaids. And we don't need that to.

Then you'd have to have all some of these housewives as bridesmaids. And we don't need that to.

Happen, oh one hundred percent. And do you know what, I think they figured out pretty quickly that actually, like, I don't, that wasn't really my intention, and I don't. I'm not actively running around looking for a man.

Happen, oh one hundred percent. And do you know what, I think they figured out pretty quickly that actually, like, I don't, that wasn't really my intention, and I don't. I'm not actively running around looking for a man.

No.

No.

So there was talk around like sending me to a dating coach and whatnot, and I was like, no, guys, I don't need any dating coach. Acting like I'm sitting around on Saturday nights by myself.

So there was talk around like sending me to a dating coach and whatnot, and I was like, no, guys, I don't need any dating coach. Acting like I'm sitting around on Saturday nights by myself.

What's the I mean, you don't strike me And this is the magic as to why you work so well, You don't strike me as the sort of person who would want to be on a reality show like this. How did this all come about? Like who dubbed you in? And you know, what was the audition process? Like what happened?

What's the I mean, you don't strike me And this is the magic as to why you work so well, You don't strike me as the sort of person who would want to be on a reality show like this. How did this all come about? Like who dubbed you in? And you know, what was the audition process? Like what happened?

So I don't really know who dubbed me in, but obviously, you know, I'd done it on my VET for a while, so that had you know, and there was some crossover in terms of actually people that worked on both of those shows, So you know, there was obviously somewhere at some point someone my name in. Look, I was one of those housewives. I'm a massive fan of the franchise. Wow, you know Beverly Hills in particular, you know, back from when I was young, like, I absolutely loved Beverly Hills, And as much as a lot of people kind of you know, are very don't say good things about housewives in general, I always thought they were absolute fucking heroes, you know, And I think, wow, like these women probably get more respect than what you would if you're a politician.

So I don't really know who dubbed me in, but obviously, you know, I'd done it on my VET for a while, so that had you know, and there was some crossover in terms of actually people that worked on both of those shows, So you know, there was obviously somewhere at some point someone my name in. Look, I was one of those housewives. I'm a massive fan of the franchise. Wow, you know Beverly Hills in particular, you know, back from when I was young, like, I absolutely loved Beverly Hills, And as much as a lot of people kind of you know, are very don't say good things about housewives in general, I always thought they were absolute fucking heroes, you know, And I think, wow, like these women probably get more respect than what you would if you're a politician.

Yeah, no, I think it is very true. Although you know, reality TV contests, reality TV people had politicians I've found have a lot in common. But that's a different podcast. But this is the thing though, to be good reality TV, you have to be authentic, and some of these women on this series come across like they've been on a long lunch since nineteen ninety five, where you look like you've walked in just from doing a shift at work. Sometimes I really have those, Yeah, But and you still look more glamorous than all of them put together with the work and the clothes. But what did you have as an expectation of how you were going to be on this show?

Yeah, no, I think it is very true. Although you know, reality TV contests, reality TV people had politicians I've found have a lot in common. But that's a different podcast. But this is the thing though, to be good reality TV, you have to be authentic, and some of these women on this series come across like they've been on a long lunch since nineteen ninety five, where you look like you've walked in just from doing a shift at work. Sometimes I really have those, Yeah, But and you still look more glamorous than all of them put together with the work and the clothes. But what did you have as an expectation of how you were going to be on this show?

One hundred percent myself.

One hundred percent myself.

Just being yourself.

Just being yourself.

Okay, one hundred percent myself. So you know, I went on this show because for me, I guess it was a bit of a personal challenge. And the way that I see the world is I kind of think that, you know, even though showing vulnerability can be seen as a weakness, like I think it's actually really courageous. Yeah, And I felt like watching lots of reality TV show, I think that you really do come undone when you start not being yourself. And you know, I've seen previous series where they've had housewives that have rented houses and done all these things and not been true to who they were. And you know, even for me, like I don't have a stylist, as an example, and I didn't want to stylist because I don't have a stylist. I style myself and that might mean that sometimes I get it wrong, but that's what it is right that my real life.

Okay, one hundred percent myself. So you know, I went on this show because for me, I guess it was a bit of a personal challenge. And the way that I see the world is I kind of think that, you know, even though showing vulnerability can be seen as a weakness, like I think it's actually really courageous. Yeah, And I felt like watching lots of reality TV show, I think that you really do come undone when you start not being yourself. And you know, I've seen previous series where they've had housewives that have rented houses and done all these things and not been true to who they were. And you know, even for me, like I don't have a stylist, as an example, and I didn't want to stylist because I don't have a stylist. I style myself and that might mean that sometimes I get it wrong, but that's what it is right that my real life.

I think you've also redefined the way in which conflict can happen between people, not just necessarily women. I think you show a way in which you're able to present your case and stay strong on how you feel. Is there advice that you have for people when they do find themselves in conflict with their girlfriends or in a workplace on how they can stay strong, stay true to who they are and what their message is without being overcome by their own emotions.

I think you've also redefined the way in which conflict can happen between people, not just necessarily women. I think you show a way in which you're able to present your case and stay strong on how you feel. Is there advice that you have for people when they do find themselves in conflict with their girlfriends or in a workplace on how they can stay strong, stay true to who they are and what their message is without being overcome by their own emotions.

I think that probably just comes with practice, and it probably comes with practice as from being a vet to be honest with you, because our lets get yelled at quite frequently. I think that there's two parts to conflict. I think that there's active listening, and I do actively listen to my opponent without emotion, really trying to actually understand what their point is and trying to see it from their perspective. But then there's all so active speaking.

I think that probably just comes with practice, and it probably comes with practice as from being a vet to be honest with you, because our lets get yelled at quite frequently. I think that there's two parts to conflict. I think that there's active listening, and I do actively listen to my opponent without emotion, really trying to actually understand what their point is and trying to see it from their perspective. But then there's all so active speaking.

Well think about and you're saying I think is important.

Well think about and you're saying I think is important.

Yeah, and you have to speak your truth, right, you have to. And I think that like everything, you know, if you're going to fight about shoes and handbags or something that's not important to you, and then there's there's no point. So you do need to choose your battles, particularly when it comes to you know, friendships for example, So if it's something that you know, something that you don't really care about, you know, And there was a lot of earlier on in that series there was you know, talk of you know, me being an onion and me being Mona Lisa and all that kind of stuff, moaning Lisa, and I was kind of like, I don't care enough to argue about this. What I do care about is this, you know, questioning my sexuality. That was a thing for me that I felt that that was important. And then obviously then there was there was fur. So those two things for me were big enough that I thought, okay, well this is where rubber hits the road, like we're going to have to I'm going to have to say something about these two things.

Yeah, and you have to speak your truth, right, you have to. And I think that like everything, you know, if you're going to fight about shoes and handbags or something that's not important to you, and then there's there's no point. So you do need to choose your battles, particularly when it comes to you know, friendships for example, So if it's something that you know, something that you don't really care about, you know, And there was a lot of earlier on in that series there was you know, talk of you know, me being an onion and me being Mona Lisa and all that kind of stuff, moaning Lisa, and I was kind of like, I don't care enough to argue about this. What I do care about is this, you know, questioning my sexuality. That was a thing for me that I felt that that was important. And then obviously then there was there was fur. So those two things for me were big enough that I thought, okay, well this is where rubber hits the road, like we're going to have to I'm going to have to say something about these two things.

Victoria, you know, really jumped in with this whole thing and in a way that I I thought was unfathomable. Like I've met her, I've had her on the podcast. She's lovely, But had she really set herself up and done herself a doozy by wearing some fur while going to an animal conservation park like as in it seems unfathomable that she would even do that. Is she being set up by producers to go and to go to that with fur on her sitting next to.

Victoria, you know, really jumped in with this whole thing and in a way that I I thought was unfathomable. Like I've met her, I've had her on the podcast. She's lovely, But had she really set herself up and done herself a doozy by wearing some fur while going to an animal conservation park like as in it seems unfathomable that she would even do that. Is she being set up by producers to go and to go to that with fur on her sitting next to.

You like, No, No, I don't think any of that was set up, And I think that, you know, a criticism from the other side is is that I was set up, that I was being prodded by producers to say something, and that is not how it went down. So you know, how it really happened was that the night before, we'd had that discussion, which I felt was reasonably respectful on both sides, and we'd had that kind of robust discussion, and I thought it had ended there, And it really wasn't until the next day that that incident sort of happened in the car that I thought, Okay, wow, this is not what I had for seen at all. So I really don't think it was a deliberate on Victoria's part. I don't, and I don't believe it wasn't. Certainly wasn't on my part. I did know that obviously. You know, Tim Faulkner, who is the head of OSSIERC, is a very good friend and I've done lots of work with OSSI ARC and Tim is a force, and I honestly in that car felt like, if I don't say something in this car, I am going to get accused of saying something, which I'd been accused of previously in ambushing someone publicly, because I'm going to have to say something in front of everyone, and then I'm going to get attacked about the fact that I had said it in it at an inappropriate time. So I actually chose that car. I thought I've got to do it now because otherwise we can't do it well and get there without coming off as I'd waited until the last minute. And interestingly, obviously I was still attached for when I said it, and that I had ambucher in the car, and then I thought, well, it was better than being ambushed by Tim at the park, and that would have embarrassed me to no end, because I did set that up personally to go to the Wildlife Park, and I had felt I guess quite frankly embarrassed, and I thought, I just I can't have Tim see this. It's disrespectful. And there was that joke about being made of Tasmanian devil, of which it wasn't, but I thought, Babe, like, do you realize like people spent put their whole lives into this. This is not like some like whim for them, Like people put their whole lives into this. And regardless of what you think to me, I just think it's like you know, walking into a church that is not your religion and then asking them to take your shoes off like you do it just out of a sign of respect.

You like, No, No, I don't think any of that was set up, And I think that, you know, a criticism from the other side is is that I was set up, that I was being prodded by producers to say something, and that is not how it went down. So you know, how it really happened was that the night before, we'd had that discussion, which I felt was reasonably respectful on both sides, and we'd had that kind of robust discussion, and I thought it had ended there, And it really wasn't until the next day that that incident sort of happened in the car that I thought, Okay, wow, this is not what I had for seen at all. So I really don't think it was a deliberate on Victoria's part. I don't, and I don't believe it wasn't. Certainly wasn't on my part. I did know that obviously. You know, Tim Faulkner, who is the head of OSSIERC, is a very good friend and I've done lots of work with OSSI ARC and Tim is a force, and I honestly in that car felt like, if I don't say something in this car, I am going to get accused of saying something, which I'd been accused of previously in ambushing someone publicly, because I'm going to have to say something in front of everyone, and then I'm going to get attacked about the fact that I had said it in it at an inappropriate time. So I actually chose that car. I thought I've got to do it now because otherwise we can't do it well and get there without coming off as I'd waited until the last minute. And interestingly, obviously I was still attached for when I said it, and that I had ambucher in the car, and then I thought, well, it was better than being ambushed by Tim at the park, and that would have embarrassed me to no end, because I did set that up personally to go to the Wildlife Park, and I had felt I guess quite frankly embarrassed, and I thought, I just I can't have Tim see this. It's disrespectful. And there was that joke about being made of Tasmanian devil, of which it wasn't, but I thought, Babe, like, do you realize like people spent put their whole lives into this. This is not like some like whim for them, Like people put their whole lives into this. And regardless of what you think to me, I just think it's like you know, walking into a church that is not your religion and then asking them to take your shoes off like you do it just out of a sign of respect.

Absolutely. I mean the evolution of this as well, kay, is that today we're hearing that she didn't take fur out of her you know, her range of clothing. And yes, interesting thing was that when you went to go and unpack this whole situation at a lunch afterwards, some of the fans were like, oh, you know, Victoria's trying to apologize, but you really came across like you hadn't really taken that apology or you didn't believe that she was going to take her out of her clothing. Line. Was that what it had happened, Because now that we know that she hasn't, how does that make you feel about the argument?

Absolutely. I mean the evolution of this as well, kay, is that today we're hearing that she didn't take fur out of her you know, her range of clothing. And yes, interesting thing was that when you went to go and unpack this whole situation at a lunch afterwards, some of the fans were like, oh, you know, Victoria's trying to apologize, but you really came across like you hadn't really taken that apology or you didn't believe that she was going to take her out of her clothing. Line. Was that what it had happened, Because now that we know that she hasn't, how does that make you feel about the argument?

I mean, I knew at that time that it wasn't going to be so, you know, I certainly think that there was a lot of planning that went involved into the cape coat and the idea around taking for out of the equation, but I knew that there was a lot of resentment there about having to do that.

I mean, I knew at that time that it wasn't going to be so, you know, I certainly think that there was a lot of planning that went involved into the cape coat and the idea around taking for out of the equation, but I knew that there was a lot of resentment there about having to do that.

And you know, it's really funny about that lunch. Well not funny, I say funny, but I mean strange, not ha half funny, but like when Chrissy jumped in to try and join that conversation, you kind of just put an end to that, and you know, it was a little bit brutal, but it also was very important to stay on trend of will stay on the topic. That's what I saw that you were doing.

And you know, it's really funny about that lunch. Well not funny, I say funny, but I mean strange, not ha half funny, but like when Chrissy jumped in to try and join that conversation, you kind of just put an end to that, and you know, it was a little bit brutal, but it also was very important to stay on trend of will stay on the topic. That's what I saw that you were doing.

But yeah, is it interesting to.

But yeah, is it interesting to.

Be a housewife for the first time with two women that have done it before and they have they been affected or are they more seasoned than everybody else? Like what do you think their relationship is with the show coming back for a second time?

Be a housewife for the first time with two women that have done it before and they have they been affected or are they more seasoned than everybody else? Like what do you think their relationship is with the show coming back for a second time?

Yeah, I certainly think so. On having done this once before, I think, Wow, like the advantage of having done it once before is significant, you know, because you kind of then can see like what type of things that they're going to edit in and what they're going to edit out and those types of things. So I think, like a season you get and you know I haven't I probably even knew that even from the day, you know, watching Erica Jane's first season as to what she is now like a completely different housewife, So you know, there certainly is some practice involved in this. So you know you're definitely coming at at a disadvantage when you haven't done it before, but you know, hopefully next series well.

Yeah, I certainly think so. On having done this once before, I think, Wow, like the advantage of having done it once before is significant, you know, because you kind of then can see like what type of things that they're going to edit in and what they're going to edit out and those types of things. So I think, like a season you get and you know I haven't I probably even knew that even from the day, you know, watching Erica Jane's first season as to what she is now like a completely different housewife, So you know, there certainly is some practice involved in this. So you know you're definitely coming at at a disadvantage when you haven't done it before, but you know, hopefully next series well.

Also it's great though that you see housewives come onto these franchises and you know, you've watched Beverly Hills, so we've watched the evolution of how those shows happen when a housewife joins and the expectation that they want to be a certain person on the show. You know, I feel like with this series in Australia, it's like everyone wants to be the next Genaliano. Where you've come on the show just being yourself, not trying to be Genialiano, but now everyone's saying you're the Queen of Australian Housewives. So, you know, I think there's something really important in being yourself. But can you see any similarities when the fans call you that, Can you see any similarities to who Gina was on the show and who you are?

Also it's great though that you see housewives come onto these franchises and you know, you've watched Beverly Hills, so we've watched the evolution of how those shows happen when a housewife joins and the expectation that they want to be a certain person on the show. You know, I feel like with this series in Australia, it's like everyone wants to be the next Genaliano. Where you've come on the show just being yourself, not trying to be Genialiano, but now everyone's saying you're the Queen of Australian Housewives. So, you know, I think there's something really important in being yourself. But can you see any similarities when the fans call you that, Can you see any similarities to who Gina was on the show and who you are?

I definitely can. I think that. Obviously Gina and I are from completely different you know, different parts of the world, but we we communicate reasonably similarly. I think that probably Gina is better at it than I am. Like I've watched some Gina scenes and I've thought, oh, wow, you're pretty good at that. Gina and I never really intended on being Gena.

I definitely can. I think that. Obviously Gina and I are from completely different you know, different parts of the world, but we we communicate reasonably similarly. I think that probably Gina is better at it than I am. Like I've watched some Gina scenes and I've thought, oh, wow, you're pretty good at that. Gina and I never really intended on being Gena.

No, I don't think I'm actually not a. It's funny. I'm not accusing you of that at all. I'm actually saying that everyone wants to try and emulate something. Yeah it works. You have not tried to emulate it, and you've landed there. That's what's interesting to me.

No, I don't think I'm actually not a. It's funny. I'm not accusing you of that at all. I'm actually saying that everyone wants to try and emulate something. Yeah it works. You have not tried to emulate it, and you've landed there. That's what's interesting to me.

Yeah, and you know, there was there's a certain level of you know, knowledge I had about myself. Obviously, I went into this thinking I'm going to be the mushroom on the side. I'm just gonna and I am a girl's girl, right, So I thought Okay, it's going to be fine. I'm just going to make friends. I'm going to make friends here, and it's all going to be fine. I'm just going to be like la da lah. And of course, like I walk in and you know, Quzzy calls me a nun and I thought, okay, and then she has a crack about anal Gland Monday, and I thought, okay, well this is not going well, is it. So I kind of thought from that very first moment that I walked in, I was like, oh gosh, I have a target on my back here. So you know, it took me a while. It took me a couple of episodes to start to realize, like, I'm probably going to need to start picking up a sword here, otherwise I'm just about to get youed.

Yeah, and you know, there was there's a certain level of you know, knowledge I had about myself. Obviously, I went into this thinking I'm going to be the mushroom on the side. I'm just gonna and I am a girl's girl, right, So I thought Okay, it's going to be fine. I'm just going to make friends. I'm going to make friends here, and it's all going to be fine. I'm just going to be like la da lah. And of course, like I walk in and you know, Quzzy calls me a nun and I thought, okay, and then she has a crack about anal Gland Monday, and I thought, okay, well this is not going well, is it. So I kind of thought from that very first moment that I walked in, I was like, oh gosh, I have a target on my back here. So you know, it took me a while. It took me a couple of episodes to start to realize, like, I'm probably going to need to start picking up a sword here, otherwise I'm just about to get youed.

Oh I think you arrived. Like the only thing that Gina's got that you don't don't have is that she got that European tongue. You know, she can put together a really sassy you know, absolutely much faster and that's what my europe I grew up in Doncaster, Yeah, very European area, Albourne, and they were all that was classic for them, you know, a classic you know, Italian thing to just roll something. Yeah, that could be quite sassy and disarmed.

Oh I think you arrived. Like the only thing that Gina's got that you don't don't have is that she got that European tongue. You know, she can put together a really sassy you know, absolutely much faster and that's what my europe I grew up in Doncaster, Yeah, very European area, Albourne, and they were all that was classic for them, you know, a classic you know, Italian thing to just roll something. Yeah, that could be quite sassy and disarmed.

Yeah, And I think the other probably shocked for people is is that, you know, I come from Bondivet. You know, we've kind of trained our audiences, particularly, I guess, you know, into thinking that our female bets are like puppies and kittens and they could just probably be on like being a wiggle, you know, or on play school.

Yeah, And I think the other probably shocked for people is is that, you know, I come from Bondivet. You know, we've kind of trained our audiences, particularly, I guess, you know, into thinking that our female bets are like puppies and kittens and they could just probably be on like being a wiggle, you know, or on play school.

Or something, and so far from that though, you know.

Or something, and so far from that though, you know.

Yeah, it's absolutely but that's how we've always portrayed our female vets, you know. So there's always been this kind of sideline of this female vet that's cycle like love, like puppies and kittens type kind of energy. And you know, I for a long time there, I started to feel as though that, you know, Bondo Vett is a really big part of my life, but it only that show only really allowed me to show a certain side of myself that wasn't as authentic as what I could have been. And so my intention in going into this was really, Okay, well this is who I am. If everyone doesn't like me, I get that I'm polarizing, but I guess we're here, right, and I.

Yeah, it's absolutely but that's how we've always portrayed our female vets, you know. So there's always been this kind of sideline of this female vet that's cycle like love, like puppies and kittens type kind of energy. And you know, I for a long time there, I started to feel as though that, you know, Bondo Vett is a really big part of my life, but it only that show only really allowed me to show a certain side of myself that wasn't as authentic as what I could have been. And so my intention in going into this was really, Okay, well this is who I am. If everyone doesn't like me, I get that I'm polarizing, but I guess we're here, right, and I.

Don't communicate it. Sorry to jump in there, especially because now I'm very conscious of your active listening, and I'm like, I've got to actively listen. I've got to make sure. But like I also think being a presenter is a two dimensional role. You know, you don't necessarily get to show you warts at all, and that's what people are fascinated by. People are asassinated by the nuances of who you really are. But then you go as far as being on a show like this, which does talk about conflict and it does talk about putting women and pitting women together, were you worried that that could affect Bondai Vet?

Don't communicate it. Sorry to jump in there, especially because now I'm very conscious of your active listening, and I'm like, I've got to actively listen. I've got to make sure. But like I also think being a presenter is a two dimensional role. You know, you don't necessarily get to show you warts at all, and that's what people are fascinated by. People are asassinated by the nuances of who you really are. But then you go as far as being on a show like this, which does talk about conflict and it does talk about putting women and pitting women together, were you worried that that could affect Bondai Vet?

And you know, there was you know, talk particularly about you know, will I come back to Bonda Vette after I finished filming, And my first thought was actually I thought, well, guys, you might not want me on that. And there was a billboard down in Melbourne actually that had my head on it as bond I Vet. And you know, there was a lot of questions being asked, you know, are we able to sort of keep that up? And I thought, oh, gosh, guys, maybe by the end of this year, is you're going to be up there with a button knife like kind of pick my head off.

And you know, there was you know, talk particularly about you know, will I come back to Bonda Vette after I finished filming, And my first thought was actually I thought, well, guys, you might not want me on that. And there was a billboard down in Melbourne actually that had my head on it as bond I Vet. And you know, there was a lot of questions being asked, you know, are we able to sort of keep that up? And I thought, oh, gosh, guys, maybe by the end of this year, is you're going to be up there with a button knife like kind of pick my head off.

Mate, You're going to get your check book out and ask them to pay you double because you've just gone on a reality show which could have chewed you up and spat you out, but you've held your integrity. Fans are clamoring for you, like this is good press, like this is good public. You know what I mean?

Mate, You're going to get your check book out and ask them to pay you double because you've just gone on a reality show which could have chewed you up and spat you out, but you've held your integrity. Fans are clamoring for you, like this is good press, like this is good public. You know what I mean?

Yeah? Well, few few.

Yeah? Well, few few.

I really couldn't have gone that way. I mean, you know this is a dangerous ground.

I really couldn't have gone that way. I mean, you know this is a dangerous ground.

Did you get always there is right?

Did you get always there is right?

It's we've seen people like Lisa Rinner as well. Hey, just before you go, it's just going to quickly ask you about the idea of coming back next year. There seems to be a fairly clear divide that's happening between the girls. Do you think when the show picks up next time we see you girls, that we will see more of a divide? Do you think that those sort of teams are going to solidify a little bit more before you will return?

It's we've seen people like Lisa Rinner as well. Hey, just before you go, it's just going to quickly ask you about the idea of coming back next year. There seems to be a fairly clear divide that's happening between the girls. Do you think when the show picks up next time we see you girls, that we will see more of a divide? Do you think that those sort of teams are going to solidify a little bit more before you will return?

I don't really know. You know. What I do know is that when you know, alliances start to form, I think that the show starts to not work. And you know, you see that in season one fairly clearly, and I think that it starts to become uncomfortable when there is alliances there. So I mean, I just don't really know how that's going to how that's going to go. I don't know anyone.

I don't really know. You know. What I do know is that when you know, alliances start to form, I think that the show starts to not work. And you know, you see that in season one fairly clearly, and I think that it starts to become uncomfortable when there is alliances there. So I mean, I just don't really know how that's going to how that's going to go. I don't know anyone.

Well, producers for real Housewives of Beverly Hills will tell the women, you know, by the way that relationships beg having a little bit boring by being like that, you know, yeah, but you go and see Sutton, you know, how about you go and imagine your relationships at least, right, you know what I mean? And then when the housewives don't want to do that aka LVP Lisa van a Pump, then the show doesn't work. And then you know, long, yes, you know.

Well, producers for real Housewives of Beverly Hills will tell the women, you know, by the way that relationships beg having a little bit boring by being like that, you know, yeah, but you go and see Sutton, you know, how about you go and imagine your relationships at least, right, you know what I mean? And then when the housewives don't want to do that aka LVP Lisa van a Pump, then the show doesn't work. And then you know, long, yes, you know.

That's right, right, And I think everyone does forget right, Like everyone says, you know, whatever they might say about you know, someone being a shit sir or whatever. I'm like, guys, it is housewives. Like We're not going to sit around and have a cup of tea.

That's right, right, And I think everyone does forget right, Like everyone says, you know, whatever they might say about you know, someone being a shit sir or whatever. I'm like, guys, it is housewives. Like We're not going to sit around and have a cup of tea.

It is a show which you can get kay before you go. The last question I ask everyone who joins the podcast is what is something from behind the scenes of the housewives experience for you? Something we didn't get a chance to see, but kind of like a behind the scenes secret for doctor Kate Bang on this series.

It is a show which you can get kay before you go. The last question I ask everyone who joins the podcast is what is something from behind the scenes of the housewives experience for you? Something we didn't get a chance to see, but kind of like a behind the scenes secret for doctor Kate Bang on this series.

Behind the scenes. Well, you know, I think it was really really tough for me to actually juggle work and filming, and I did do that, and my girls at the clinic will tell you sometimes I had to have my hair and makeup done out the back in the treatment room. So that is yep, that is there. And the other thing is I think that everyone always asks, is that do we, for example, like pay for our own clothes and our like organize our own glam and we do. We organize all of that on our own.

Behind the scenes. Well, you know, I think it was really really tough for me to actually juggle work and filming, and I did do that, and my girls at the clinic will tell you sometimes I had to have my hair and makeup done out the back in the treatment room. So that is yep, that is there. And the other thing is I think that everyone always asks, is that do we, for example, like pay for our own clothes and our like organize our own glam and we do. We organize all of that on our own.

Why the hell's doing your makeup? Your makeup is impeccable. The hair actually no, I don't know what's better that. What's your opinion, the hair or the makeup? Like you this season, every time you turn up in your piece to cameras, you are like a vision.

Why the hell's doing your makeup? Your makeup is impeccable. The hair actually no, I don't know what's better that. What's your opinion, the hair or the makeup? Like you this season, every time you turn up in your piece to cameras, you are like a vision.

Ah, that is lovely. I definitely think that my hair is harder to do because I have so much hair.

Ah, that is lovely. I definitely think that my hair is harder to do because I have so much hair.

Yeah's I think.

Yeah's I think.

And a lot of people ask me if I have hair extensions because of the amount of hair that I have, and I don't. It's just that I have a very skilled, skilled hairdresser, So for me, the hair is much more important and although sometimes my hair doesn't look very good, that's because I've got a lot of it.

And a lot of people ask me if I have hair extensions because of the amount of hair that I have, and I don't. It's just that I have a very skilled, skilled hairdresser, So for me, the hair is much more important and although sometimes my hair doesn't look very good, that's because I've got a lot of it.

Well, I mean, to be a good housewife, you've got to have a good name.

Well, I mean, to be a good housewife, you've got to have a good name.

So you know, that's right, that's right.

So you know, that's right, that's right.

I just want to say thank you so so much for being so generous, thanks for having me. I've absolutely loved talking to you. It's a real bucket list.

I just want to say thank you so so much for being so generous, thanks for having me. I've absolutely loved talking to you. It's a real bucket list.

I love it. I love to hear that you like from people that have something positive to say. And you would know from reality television, you know, you get a lot of you know, you're like, oh, every day for a battle of the death threats.

I love it. I love to hear that you like from people that have something positive to say. And you would know from reality television, you know, you get a lot of you know, you're like, oh, every day for a battle of the death threats.

You know, polarize your audience and this goes across a lot of media. Like Kate Lambrook told me this years ago, and she was like, you know, straight after I did Big Brother and people savaged me online. I didn't like that I'd won. You know, you can't please everyone. Yeah, but yeah, Kate said, you know, if you don't polarize people, you don't have a job, and so your percentages of likability and you know, people that don't like you actually need to be a lot closer together than people realize.

You know, polarize your audience and this goes across a lot of media. Like Kate Lambrook told me this years ago, and she was like, you know, straight after I did Big Brother and people savaged me online. I didn't like that I'd won. You know, you can't please everyone. Yeah, but yeah, Kate said, you know, if you don't polarize people, you don't have a job, and so your percentages of likability and you know, people that don't like you actually need to be a lot closer together than people realize.

So Okay, actually said right, you know, I love that advice.

So Okay, actually said right, you know, I love that advice.

You're fifty percent hated and you're fifty percent loved. You've got the perfect sweet spot to be on television and in the media. You know, if you're ninety percent liked, then you're out of the job, and if you're notice hated, you're out of the job.

You're fifty percent hated and you're fifty percent loved. You've got the perfect sweet spot to be on television and in the media. You know, if you're ninety percent liked, then you're out of the job, and if you're notice hated, you're out of the job.

Yeah, okay, that's good. That's good. I like those stats.

Yeah, okay, that's good. That's good. I like those stats.

So you're resonating girl anyway, and you enjoy treading. Keep fire, right, Ben, Yeah, look after yourself.

So you're resonating girl anyway, and you enjoy treading. Keep fire, right, Ben, Yeah, look after yourself.

Choked your light after you bye?

Choked your light after you bye?

Fine now yeh yeah,

Fine now yeh yeah,