On New Year’s Day 1993, Perth woman Michelle Steck, 24, packed her bags and left her abusive four-year relationship with her violent partner’s words ringing in her ears. “You’re going to pay for your actions for a very long time,” spat Kevin East, 34.

On New Year&rsquo;s Day 1993, Perth woman Michelle Steck, 24, packed her bags and left her abusive four-year relationship with her violent partner&rsquo;s words ringing in her ears. &ldquo;You&rsquo;re going to pay for your actions for a very long time,&rdquo; spat Kevin East, 34.

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Michelle Steck Found Her Ex Hiding In The Roof, Weeks Later Her Daughter Was Dead

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For nearly half a century, Australia was engaged in a shameful and shocking practice that would tear babies from the arms of their mothers, sometimes before they ever even laid eyes on their precious little faces.

Today, Amelia Oberhart shares with us the journey of her discoveries about her mother’s life before she was born in her podcast, Secrets We Keep,  Shame, Lies and Family…and in the process of unveiling her own story, found the buried stories of women whose numbers will shock you. 

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For nearly half a century, Australia was engaged in a shameful and shocking practice that would tear babies from the arms of their mothers, sometimes before they ever even laid eyes on their precious little faces.
Today, Amelia Oberhart shares with us the journey of her discoveries about her mother&rsquo;s life before she was born in her podcast, Secrets We Keep,&nbsp; Shame, Lies and Family&hellip;and in the process of unveiling her own story, found the buried stories of women whose numbers will shock you.&nbsp;
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Guest: Amelia Oberhardt
You can listen to her podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/secrets-we-keep/id1699106866">Secrets We Keep</a> here.
Host: Claire Murphy
Executive Producer: Gia Moylan
Audio Producer:&nbsp;Scott Stronach
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Check out our TikTok <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@mamamiatruecrime">here</a>.
Feedback? We&rsquo;re listening! Email us at <a href="mailto:truecrime@mamamia.com.au">truecrime@mamamia.com.au</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via<a href="https://www.lifeline.org.au/">&nbsp;Lifeline</a>&nbsp;on 13 11 14 or<a href="https://www.beyondblue.org.au/">&nbsp;Beyond Blue</a>&nbsp;on 1300 22 4636
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

Australia's Dark History Of Forced Adoptions

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John Killick is one of Australia's most infamous criminals. Why? Because in 1999, he escaped from Sydney’s Silverwater Correctional Complex on a helicopter. 

Killick was on remand for armed robbery, and his girlfriend at the time, Lucy Dudko, hijacked a helicopter, landed it in the prison, and flew him out. 

In this episode, we speak with John Killick himself about his life of crimes, his days of reform now and that fateful day when he was broken out of prison on a helicopter. 

You can read The Last Escape by John Killick, here and Mark Dapin's book, Prison Break, here. 

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Guest: John Killick & Mark Dapin

Host: Claire Murphy

Senior Producer: Tahli Blackman

Group Executive Producer: Ilaria Brophy

Audio Engineer: Jacob Round

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We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

John Killick is one of Australia's most infamous criminals. Why? Because in 1999, he escaped from Sydney&rsquo;s Silverwater Correctional Complex on a helicopter.&nbsp;
Killick was on remand for armed robbery, and his girlfriend at the time, Lucy Dudko, hijacked a helicopter, landed it in the prison, and flew him out.&nbsp;
In this episode, we speak with John Killick himself about his life of crimes, his days of reform now and that fateful day when he was broken out of prison on a helicopter.&nbsp;
You can read The Last Escape by John Killick, <a href="https://au.newhollandpublishers.com/the-last-escape-9781760796501.html">here</a> and Mark Dapin's book, Prison Break,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/Mark-Dapin-Prison-Break-9781761065156">here</a>.&nbsp;
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Guest: John Killick &amp; Mark Dapin
Host: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-murphy-52121979/?originalSubdomain=au">Claire Murphy</a>
Senior Producer:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahli-blackman-205a891b7/?originalSubdomain=au">Tahli Blackman</a>
Group Executive Producer: Ilaria Brophy
Audio Engineer: Jacob Round
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Make sure to leave us a rating and review on Apple &amp; Spotify to let us know how you're liking the episodes.&nbsp;
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If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on <a href="tel:1300 22 4636">1300 22 4636</a>.
We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The Russian Woman Who Hijacked A Helicopter To Free Her Aussie Lover

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On March 17, 2015, 17-year-old Masa Vukotic left her Doncaster home for an evening walk through her local park, a routine she had followed countless times.

That night, her boyfriend, Timothy Draper, did not receive a goodnight text from Masa. By morning, police were at his door with devastating news: Masa had been brutally stabbed 49 times in Koonung Creek Linear Reserve, her screams having been heard by neighbours who called emergency services.

The man responsible, Sean Price—a previous offender out on bail—would go on to continue a spree of violence before eventually surrendering to police.

You can listen to Michael's podcast with The Age, Diagnosing Murder, here.

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Guest: Michael Bachelard

Host: Claire Murphy

Senior Producer: Tahli Blackman

Group Executive Producer: Ilaria Brophy

Audio Engineer: Tina Matolov

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Make sure to leave us a rating and review on Apple & Spotify to let us know how you're liking the episodes. 

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If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636.

We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

On March 17, 2015, 17-year-old Masa Vukotic left her Doncaster home for an evening walk through her local park, a routine she had followed countless times.
That night, her boyfriend, Timothy Draper, did not receive a goodnight text from Masa. By morning, police were at his door with devastating news: Masa had been brutally stabbed 49 times in Koonung Creek Linear Reserve, her screams having been heard by neighbours who called emergency services.
The man responsible, Sean Price&mdash;a previous offender out on bail&mdash;would go on to continue a spree of violence before eventually surrendering to police.
You can listen to Michael's podcast with The Age, Diagnosing Murder,&nbsp;<a href="https://www.theage.com.au/podcast/diagnosingmurder">here</a>.
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CREDITS&nbsp;
Guest: Michael Bachelard
Host: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/claire-murphy-52121979/?originalSubdomain=au">Claire Murphy</a>
Senior Producer:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tahli-blackman-205a891b7/?originalSubdomain=au">Tahli Blackman</a>
Group Executive Producer: Ilaria Brophy
Audio Engineer: Tina Matolov
GET IN TOUCH
Follow us on Instagram and TikTok&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/truecrimeconversations/?hl=en">@truecrimeconversations</a>
Make sure to leave us a rating and review on Apple &amp; Spotify to let us know how you're liking the episodes.&nbsp;
Want us to cover a case on the podcast? Email us at&nbsp;<a href="mailto:truecrime@mamamia.com.au">truecrime@mamamia.com.au</a>&nbsp;or <a href="https://help.mamamia.com.au/en-US/send-a-podcast-voice-note-467960">send us a voice note.</a>
If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on <a href="tel:1300 22 4636">1300 22 4636</a>.
We acknowledge the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

The Murder Of Australian Schoolgirl Masa Vukotic

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Michelle Steck Found Her Ex Hiding In The Roof, Weeks Later Her Daughter Was Dead

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