FW’s own deputy managing director Jamila Rizvi has spent her career as what she calls a “perennial number two” – from the Prime Minister’s office to media empires. She’s made bold pivots, survived life-altering health scares, and discovered that sometimes the bravest thing you can do is admit: I don’t want to do this alone. In this episode, Jamila chats with Briana Blackett about resignations feeling like break ups, fear masquerading as excitement, and how professional co-dependence has been key to her success.

BONUS: Career pivot playbook: To jump or not to jump?
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8. Melanie Silva was "too excited": then Google made it her strength
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7. Pamela Naidoo-Ameglio was "too quiet": listening powered her leadership from mines to nuclear
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