Introduction

The Multi-Hyphenate Career

Finding Your "Why"

Overcoming "Too Much" Labels

Leaving the Family Legacy

Upskilling & Skill Translation

Building Career Confidence

Mission-Led Leadership

CliftonStrengths & Team Dynamics

The "Sideways Move" Strategy

Surviving the "Firehose" Phase

Failing Fast & Finding Fit

The Slow Pivot Process

Finding Joy in the Daily Grind

Carla Zampatti’s daughter, self-confessed nerd Allegra Spender, never saw herself as a natural fit to lead her late mother’s fashion empire. But that’s where she ended up, before a runway-worthy career-pivot which saw her ride the Teal wave into federal politics. In this episode, Allegra joins Briana Blackett to discuss how being “too nerdy” helped her break the mould in fashion, her switch from colour palettes to politics – and why playing to your strengths is the key to every professional pivot. 
Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and explore a career with Victoria Police.
Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.
Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

Carla Zampatti&rsquo;s daughter, self-confessed nerd Allegra Spender, never saw herself as a natural fit to lead her late mother&rsquo;s fashion empire. But that&rsquo;s where she ended up, before a runway-worthy career-pivot which saw her ride the Teal wave into federal politics. In this episode, Allegra joins Briana Blackett to discuss how being &ldquo;too nerdy&rdquo; helped her break the mould in fashion, her switch from colour palettes to politics &ndash; and why playing to your strengths is the key to every professional pivot.&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and <a href="https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-officer-careers?utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_source=fw_au&amp;utm_campaign=rec-jan_2025-mfm">explore a career with Victoria Police</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Become an<a href="http://futurewomen.com/"> FW member</a> to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Keep up with @futurewomen on<a href="https://instagram.com/futurewomen"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FutureWomen"> Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/future-women">LinkedIn</a>.</li>
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Ask any woman and she'll tell you about a time when she was too something. At work, women are suffocated by stereotypes about who we should be and how we should behave.

Join Helen McCabe as she speaks with high-achieving women who bucked trends, disrupted systems and refused to quit. Women who built careers by forging their own paths.
Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Explore a career with Victoria Police.
Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development. 
Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Threads and X

Ask any woman and she'll tell you about a time when she was too something. At work, women are suffocated by stereotypes about who we should be and how we should behave.
Join Helen McCabe as she speaks with high-achieving women who bucked trends, disrupted systems and refused to quit. Women who built careers by forging their own paths.
<ul>
<li>Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. <a href="https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-officer-careers">Explore a career with Victoria Police</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Become an <a href="http://futurewomen.com/">FW member</a> to join the movement and fast-track your professional development. </li>
<li>Keep up with @futurewomen on<a href="https://instagram.com/futurewomen"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FutureWomen"> Facebook</a>,<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/future-women"> LinkedIn</a>,<a href="https://www.threads.net/@futurewomen"> Threads</a> and<a href="https://twitter.com/futurewomen?lang=en"> X</a></li>
</ul>

Too Much: The Switch by Future Women

Too Much is back with a twist - or should we say, a pivot - for its third season: The Switch. This time, eight women share how they overcame their doubts to take the ultimate leap of faith from one profession to another. Hear about the success they found and the lessons they’d give to women following in their footsteps.
Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Explore a career with Victoria Police.
Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development. 
Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, LinkedIn, Threads and X

Too Much is back with a twist - or should we say, a pivot - for its third season: The Switch. This time, eight women share how they overcame their doubts to take the ultimate leap of faith from one profession to another. Hear about the success they found and the lessons they&rsquo;d give to women following in their footsteps.
<ul>
<li>Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. <a href="https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-officer-careers">Explore a career with Victoria Police</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Become an <a href="http://futurewomen.com/">FW member</a> to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.&nbsp;</li>
<li>Keep up with @futurewomen on<a href="https://instagram.com/futurewomen"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FutureWomen"> Facebook</a>,<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/future-women"> LinkedIn</a>,<a href="https://www.threads.net/@futurewomen"> Threads</a> and<a href="https://twitter.com/futurewomen?lang=en"> X</a></li>
</ul>

Too Much by Future Women

1. Allegra Spender was "too nerdy": it took her to the top of fashion and politics

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Over 25 years, Pamela Naidoo-Ameglio has moved from diamond mines in South Africa to copper operations in rural Australia, and then made a leap that she never saw coming: running a nuclear reactor, despite having zero nuclear experience. Along the way she’s been told she’s "too quiet", and not assertive enough. In this episode, Pamela shares with Briana Blackett why curiosity beats confidence, how to pivot when you have no idea what you're doing – and why quiet women might just be the leaders we need most.
Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and explore a career with Victoria Police.
Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.
Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

Over 25 years, Pamela Naidoo-Ameglio has moved from diamond mines in South Africa to copper operations in rural Australia, and then made a leap that she never saw coming: running a nuclear reactor, despite having zero nuclear experience. Along the way she&rsquo;s been told she&rsquo;s "too quiet", and not assertive enough. In this episode, Pamela shares with Briana Blackett why curiosity beats confidence, how to pivot when you have no idea what you're doing &ndash; and why quiet women might just be the leaders we need most.
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and <a href="https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-officer-careers?utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_source=fw_au&amp;utm_campaign=rec-jan_2025-mfm">explore a career with Victoria Police</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Become an<a href="http://futurewomen.com/"> FW member</a> to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Keep up with @futurewomen on<a href="https://instagram.com/futurewomen"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FutureWomen"> Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/future-women">LinkedIn</a>.</li>
</ul>

7. Pamela Naidoo-Ameglio was "too quiet": listening powered her leadership from mines to nuclear

From Parliament to Media

The "Perennial Number Two" Role

The Pressure of Ambition

The Value of High-Stakes Experience

Leaving Politics for Media Innovation

Mastering Transferable Skills

Overcoming Hesitation in Career Shifts

The Emotional Side of Professional Switches

Shifting Identities: Beyond the Job Title

Surviving the Uncertainty of Freelancing

Unexpected Health Challenges

Professional Generosity and Flexibility

The Joys of Collaborative Work

Advice for Navigating Major Changes

FW’s own deputy managing director Jamila Rizvi has spent her career as what she calls a “perennial number two” – from the Prime Minister’s office to media empires. She’s made bold pivots, survived life-altering health scares, and discovered that sometimes the bravest thing you can do is admit: I don’t want to do this alone. In this episode, Jamila chats with Briana Blackett about resignations feeling like break ups, fear masquerading as excitement, and how professional co-dependence has been key to her success.
Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and explore a career with Victoria Police.
Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.
Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

FW&rsquo;s own deputy managing director Jamila Rizvi has spent her career as what she calls a &ldquo;perennial number two&rdquo; &ndash; from the Prime Minister&rsquo;s office to media empires. She&rsquo;s made bold pivots, survived life-altering health scares, and discovered that sometimes the bravest thing you can do is admit: I don&rsquo;t want to do this alone. In this episode, Jamila chats with Briana Blackett about resignations feeling like break ups, fear masquerading as excitement, and how professional co-dependence has been key to her success.
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and <a href="https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-officer-careers?utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_source=fw_au&amp;utm_campaign=rec-jan_2025-mfm">explore a career with Victoria Police</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Become an<a href="http://futurewomen.com/"> FW member</a> to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Keep up with @futurewomen on<a href="https://instagram.com/futurewomen"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FutureWomen"> Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/future-women">LinkedIn</a>.</li>
</ul>

6. Jamila Rizvi was "too co-dependent": second place is where she wins

She was winning Olympic gold and World Championships. But at 23, Giaan Rooney was burned out. She retired from swimming, became a television presenter, then pivoted again – to a career you’d never expect. Giaan tells Briana Blackett how, at each turn, being “too invested” has seen her succeed. And how putting aside ego has given her the courage to change lanes – and have a crack at something new. 
Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and explore a career with Victoria Police.
Become an FW member to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.
Keep up with @futurewomen on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn.

She was winning Olympic gold and World Championships. But at 23, Giaan Rooney was burned out. She retired from swimming, became a television presenter, then pivoted again &ndash; to a career you&rsquo;d never expect. Giaan tells Briana Blackett how, at each turn, being &ldquo;too invested&rdquo; has seen her succeed. And how putting aside ego has given her the courage to change lanes &ndash; and have a crack at something new.&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Too Much is a podcast series proudly supported by Victoria Police, who are looking for more women to join their ranks. Consider making the switch and<a href="https://www.police.vic.gov.au/police-officer-careers?utm_medium=affiliate&amp;utm_source=fw_au&amp;utm_campaign=rec-jan_2025-mfm"> explore a career with Victoria Police</a>.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Become an<a href="http://futurewomen.com/"> FW member</a> to join the movement and fast-track your professional development.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Keep up with @futurewomen on<a href="https://instagram.com/futurewomen"> Instagram</a>,<a href="https://www.facebook.com/FutureWomen"> Facebook</a>, and<a href="https://au.linkedin.com/company/future-women"> LinkedIn</a>.</li>
</ul>

1. Allegra Spender was "too nerdy": it took her to the top of fashion and politics

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