Chip Yost has the latest on the Nancy Guthrie case — she’s now been missing for 12 days, and the pressure is only ramping up. 

The conversation shifts to Tucson’s Catalina Foothills and why the area gets so dark at night — it’s considered a “dark sanctuary,” with local rules that limit nighttime lighting near the base of the Santa Catalina mountains. 

The Nancy Guthrie story also sparks a bigger discussion about home security, especially for aging parents: what systems make sense, where cameras should go, and how cameras didn’t stop crime so much as expose how much is happening around us. 

And Conway’s got a programming update — he’s heading back to nights on the 17th, plus a reminder to catch the show on demand… and a side quest on why so many 16-year-olds don’t want their driver’s license anymore (fear), including Conway’s own first driving test fail.