Gavin Newsom sits down with Senator Chris Murphy to discuss if Trump cares about the human impact of a government shutdown and whether bipartisanship is still possible in today’s polarized climate. Then they dive into the mounting tensions of putting troops in the streets, and how Democrats can redefine their brand amidst the chaos. 

0:00 Intro 

1:40 - Oversight Hearing

5:26 -Trump Is Rooting For A Shutdown
11:10 - Dems Need To Unite Right Now
16:04 - Is Bipartisanism Dead?
21:50 - Troops In The Streets 
26:17 The Democratic Brand
30:48 Loneliness & Young People 
36:00 Totalitarianism & Monopolies 
40:29 2026 And Beyond 
Mentioned In This Episode: Chris Murphy's Atlantic Article

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