Aubrey is joined by Aaron Andries, lead singer and founder of Chicagoland indie rock band Graveyard to Gardens--and the worship pastor at Renewal Church in West Chicago. They have a wide-ranging interview about being Christian artists, including conversations about the multiethnic church, the creative process, the Christian hesitancy to embrace lament, and whether we should keep singing songs out of Hillsong and Bethel--plus, Aaron serenades us with exclusive songs that have never been recorded anywhere else!

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Produced by Laura Finch and Keith Conrad