(00:00-7:23): Brian was joined by guest co-host Steve Coble. Steve is the Pastor of Teaching, Discipleship, and Spiritual Formation at Renewal Church of Chicago. Learn more about Steve at renewalchicago.com

How can you help your pastor develop leaders and volunteers? Brian and Steve talked about this and commented on Michael Foust’s Christian Headlines article, “U.S. Pastors' Greatest Need Is 'Developing Leaders and Volunteers': Lifeway Poll.”

(7:23-25:23): John Hopper, Houston Area Director for Search Ministries, joined Brian and Steve to talk about his new book, "Questioning God?: Answers to Questions Worth Asking."

Learn more about John and his book at questioninggod.com and learn more about Search Ministries at searchnational.org

(25:23-35:57): Dr. Michael MacKenzie, Clinical Director of Marble Retreat, joined Brian and Steve to talk about his new book, "Don't Blow Up Your Ministry: Defuse the Underlying Issues That Take Pastors Down."

Check out Michael’s book at ivpress.com and learn more about Marble Retreat at marbleretreat.org

(35:57-44:59): Brian and Steve unpacked Shane Morris’ Gospel Coalition article, “In Defense of WWJD.”

(44:59-54:03): Brian and Steve reflected on an encouraging sermon clip from Billy Graham.