Comments from Tulsa megachurch pastor Sean Feucht are stirring a debate about Christian Nationalism. Then, Brian & Aubrey interview Dr. Todd Cioffi, Director of the Calvin Prison Initiative and Professor of Congregational and Ministry Studies at Calvin University, on how inmates are earning a B.A. from Calvin. Later, a chat about how we check in on friends of color after a tragedy that affects them, and finally an interview with author Dr. Nijay Gupta on Aubrey's favorite new read: "Tell Her Story: How Women Led, Taught, and Ministered in the Early Church."

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