People who are fearful of immigrants don't have much confidence in the U.S., says Russell Moore. Brian and Aubrey react to that statement, plus an excerpt from a Kevin Sampson sermon--and ideas about hell--before interviewing Michelle Van Loon about her new piece in Christianity Today: "How We Stay in Church Matters as Much as Why."

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