David Drucker, Dispatch senior writer, has covered Kevin McCarthy for more than 20 years. Last year he interviewed Kevin McCarthy just before Christmas.

Brian and Steve Coble talk to David about McCarthy's short-lived time as speaker, what we can learn from him, and David's take on whether or not there's any 'hope' for our political system.

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