(00:00-9:17): Brian welcomed guest co-host Steve Coble! Steve is the Pastor of Teaching, Discipleship, and Spiritual Formation at Renewal Church of Chicago. Learn more about Steve at renewalchicago.com

Steve shared about his friendship with Derrick Puckett and how God called him to become a pastor. 

(9:17-18:59): Brian and Steve discussed abortion and shared ways the Church can support single mothers. They also talked about the following news stories:

“Supreme Court appears skeptical of Texas abortion law” 

“Psaki Dodges 'Abortion Is Murder' Question about Pope Francis-Biden Meeting”

“Biden says pope thinks he is a 'good Catholic,' further fuelling U.S. abortion debate”

(18:59-27:39): Brian and Steve talked about the value of multiethnic ministry, and Steve shared about the challenges and joys of pastoring a multiethnic church. 

(27:39-37:49): Brian and Steve discussed Stephen Altrogge’s Churchleaders.com article, “5 Signs You’re a Miserable Legalist.”

(37:49-48:01): Brian and Steve talked about grace & forgiveness, and shared their thoughts on a message from Matt Chandler from the Desiring God 2009 Conference for Pastors. 

(48:01-54:52): Do we need in-person community? Or can we get by with online community? Brian and Steve talked about this and reflected on a tweet from Scott Sauls, “Actual community requires local, embodied presence that includes things like scheduling, showing up, making eye contact, personal touch, sharing space, and eating together. “Online community” may be interesting and resourceful in some ways, but is not actual community.”