Changes in Singapore society in that time

“My focus is on governance.”

On having more opposition politicians

On going into his ninth election

Perceptions of him as a “hard politician”

He says a serious-minded person can come into the Singapore political system and make a difference.

Synopsis: The Usual Place host Natasha Ann Zachariah hunts for new perspectives on issues that matter to young people. 

In the lead-up to Singapore's next general election that will be held on May 3, 2025, Natasha looks at how MPs, and others involved, are preparing themselves.

Minister for Law and Home Affairs K Shanmugam is a seasoned politician about to head into his ninth election at the upcoming General Election.

The minister, who will be leading the Nee Soon GRC team at GE 2025, first became an MP in 1988 and later a Cabinet Minister in 2008.

In this episode, he speaks with Natasha and her co-host and editor of The Straits Times - Jaime Ho - about how he has seen Singapore and the PAP change in the almost four decades he has been in politics.

Also, what does he make of the public’s perception of him as a "hard politician"?

Highlights (click/tap above):

2:18 Changes in Singapore society in that time

7:25 “My focus is on governance.”

17:53 Mr Shanmugam on having more opposition politicians 

40:35 On going into his ninth election: “I won’t be here if I didn’t think I could do it.”

50:42 His take on perceptions of him as a “hard politician”


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He says a serious-minded person can come into the Singapore political system and make a difference.
Synopsis: The Usual Place host Natasha Ann Zachariah hunts for new perspectives on issues that matter to young people.&nbsp;
In the lead-up to Singapore's next general election that will be held on May 3, 2025, Natasha looks at how MPs, and others involved, are preparing themselves.
Minister for Law and Home Affairs K Shanmugam is a seasoned politician about to head into his ninth election at the upcoming General Election.
The minister, who will be leading the Nee Soon GRC team at GE 2025, first became an MP in 1988 and later a Cabinet Minister in 2008.
In this episode, he speaks with Natasha and her co-host and editor of The Straits Times - Jaime Ho - about how he has seen Singapore and the PAP change in the almost four decades he has been in politics.
Also, what does he make of the public&rsquo;s perception of him as a "hard politician"? Highlights (click/tap above):
2:18 Changes in Singapore society in that time 7:25 &ldquo;My focus is on governance.&rdquo;
17:53 Mr Shanmugam on having more opposition politicians&nbsp; 40:35 On going into his ninth election: &ldquo;I won&rsquo;t be here if I didn&rsquo;t think I could do it.&rdquo; 50:42 His take on perceptions of him as a &ldquo;hard politician&rdquo; 
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Podcaster: Natasha Ann Zachariah

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Editorial producer: Lynda Hong

A podcast by The Straits Times, SPH Media

Synopsis: Join host and correspondent Natasha Ann Zachariah every Thursday live at noon, as she unpacks the latest current affairs with guests.&nbsp;
Podcaster: Natasha Ann Zachariah
Executive producers: Danson Cheong, Elizabeth Khor &amp; Ernest Luis
Editorial producer: Lynda Hong
A podcast by The Straits Times, SPH Media

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Synopsis: Almost every weekday, our ALL-IN-ONE channel showcases discussions on Singapore youth perspectives and social issues, geopolitics through an Asian lens, health, climate change, personal finance and career.

Follow our shows on your favourite audio apps Apple Podcasts, Spotify or even ST's app, which has a dedicated podcast player section.

Produced by podcast editor Ernest Luis & The Straits Times, SPH Media.

Synopsis: Almost every weekday, our ALL-IN-ONE channel showcases discussions on Singapore youth perspectives and social issues, geopolitics through an Asian lens, health, climate change, personal finance and career.
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Natasha and her guests unpack the latest current affairs, every Thursday.

On to his 9th GE: Shanmugam on his 37 years in politics

Were reactions overblown?

Why work in school canteens?

Crafting menus for students

Healthy meals come at a cost

Can you make money as a vendor?

Wati: "I just wanted to kill time"

Why central kitchens work for schools

The "cooking on-site" model

Wati's experience as a former air stewardess 

Do we romanticise recess time?

Providing more nutritional control over food

Becoming a canteen vendor

“Meal prep is the least efficient way.”: Shawn

There has been a buffet of discussion as pre-packed food for students have been in the spotlight recently.

Some schools have had to turn to prepared meals from centralised kitchens because of shrinking student numbers and a lack of canteen stallholders.

But this has not been to everyone’s taste.

Bento boxes from airline caterer SATS made the news after pictures of unappetising servings at Hwa Chong Institution (HCI) surfaced online in early January.

It prompted a flurry of discussion both on and offline, as everyone weighed in with their thoughts from the colour of the boxes – turquoise – to the dishes served to what pre-packed meals takes away from the recess experience.

The media was later invited to HCI to taste the food and speak to students, who gave reviews about the SATS pre-packed meals. The school’s principal said the menus will be refined, and SATS will relook recipes and food presentation.

Then on Jan 14, concerns emerged over food safety after 60 primary school pupils came down with suspected food poisoning after consuming food prepared by Gourmetz, the school’s caterer.

In this week’s episode of The Usual Place, I chat with two canteen stall operators, Ms Nurkusmawati Kasim, who runs a Western food stall in a primary school, and Ms Grace Lim, who operates a snack stall in a primary and secondary school, about their experience providing meals for students.

Jalan Besar GRC MP Shawn Loh, who is the group managing director of food conglomerate Commonwealth Capital Group, joins us to discuss whether there are alternatives to the central kitchen model.

Highlights (click/tap above):

​0:55 Were the reactions to Hwa Chong Institution bento boxes overblown?

6:17 Why Grace and Wati chose to work in school canteens

9:22 Crafting menus for students

11:54 Healthy meals affects operating cost

14:43 Can you make money as a canteen stall vendor?

18:25 I just wanted to kill time when my son’s at school: Wati

20:47 Why central kitchens work for schools

22:13 Why Shawn champions a model where prepped ingredients are cooked on-site

25:35 Wati’s experience as a former air stewardess is handy when feeding masses

27:24 Do we romanticise recess time?

32:24 Cafeteria model offers control over nutritional value of food

34:50 What would entice people to become canteen vendors?

37:03 “Meal prep is the least efficient way.”: Shawn

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There has been a buffet of discussion as pre-packed food for students have been in the spotlight recently.
Some schools have had to turn to prepared meals from centralised kitchens because of shrinking student numbers and a lack of canteen stallholders.
But this has not been to everyone&rsquo;s taste.
Bento boxes from airline caterer SATS made the news after pictures of unappetising servings at Hwa Chong Institution (HCI) surfaced online in early January.
It prompted a flurry of discussion both on and offline, as everyone weighed in with their thoughts from the colour of the boxes &ndash; turquoise &ndash; to the dishes served to what pre-packed meals takes away from the recess experience.
The media was later invited to HCI to taste the food and speak to students, who gave reviews about the SATS pre-packed meals. The school&rsquo;s principal said the menus will be refined, and SATS will relook recipes and food presentation.
Then on Jan 14, concerns emerged over food safety after 60 primary school pupils came down with suspected food poisoning after consuming food prepared by Gourmetz, the school&rsquo;s caterer.
In this week&rsquo;s episode of The Usual Place, I chat with two canteen stall operators, Ms Nurkusmawati Kasim, who runs a Western food stall in a primary school, and Ms Grace Lim, who operates a snack stall in a primary and secondary school, about their experience providing meals for students.
Jalan Besar GRC MP Shawn Loh, who is the group managing director of food conglomerate Commonwealth Capital Group, joins us to discuss whether there are alternatives to the central kitchen model.
Highlights (click/tap above):
​0:55 Were the reactions to Hwa Chong Institution bento boxes overblown?
6:17 Why Grace and Wati chose to work in school canteens
9:22 Crafting menus for students
11:54 Healthy meals affects operating cost
14:43 Can you make money as a canteen stall vendor?
18:25 I just wanted to kill time when my son&rsquo;s at school: Wati
20:47 Why central kitchens work for schools
22:13 Why Shawn champions a model where prepped ingredients are cooked on-site
25:35 Wati&rsquo;s experience as a former air stewardess is handy when feeding masses
27:24 Do we romanticise recess time?
32:24 Cafeteria model offers control over nutritional value of food
34:50 What would entice people to become canteen vendors?
37:03 &ldquo;Meal prep is the least efficient way.&rdquo;: Shawn
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Editorial producers: Elizabeth Law &amp; Lynda Hong
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Are central kitchen meals coming to every Singapore school?

WP whip lifted for debate on Pritam Singh

“Not a good day in Parliament”: Prof Tan

Pritam vs Tharman: key differences in cases

Will PAP pay a political price for motion?

Was WP right to raise PAP’s lapse?

 Growing fatigue over the issue

“This closes the loop”: Prof Tan

Cracks in WP despite unity show in Parliament?

Leadership challenge brewing within WP?

An “albatross” around WP’s neck: Prof Tan

Why Pritam didn’t resign first, Peh explains

What removing LO office means for SG politics

Workers’ Party chief Pritam Singh has been removed as Leader of the Opposition by Prime Minister Lawrence Wong, a day after Parliament debated his suitability for the role.

PM Wong has invited the WP to nominate another elected MP. But the person put forth has to be an MP who has not been implicated in the earlier findings of the Committee of Privileges that looked into former MP Raeesah Khan’s conduct in Parliament.

The saga started in 2021 when Ms Khan lied in Parliament. It led to an inquiry by the COP to uncover the sequence of events of who knew what, and when. Mr Singh was later convicted by the courts for lying to the COP.

What happens now, and are cracks beginning to show within the party, especially as some cadres have called for a special conference?

On this episode to discuss the Parliament debate and the implications of Mr Singh losing the role are:
Mr Peh Shing Huei, a regular commentator on Singapore politics and a former ST news editor. He is also the founding partner of content agency The Nutgraf, and author of several books about politicians and people in government, and
Singapore Management University’s Associate Professor of Law Eugene Tan, who is a political analyst. He was also a former Nominated Member of Parliament.

Highlights (click/tap above):

1:47 Lifting of the WP whip for debate about Pritam Singh

5:08 “It wasn’t a good day at the office for Parliament.”: Prof Tan

9:57 Pritam vs Tharman: What’s the difference in cases?

14:22 Will there be a political cost to the PAP for this motion?

17:14 Was it the right move for WP MP to bring up PAP MP’s indiscretion?

22:23 Fatigue about the matter

25:23 “This is closing the loop.”: Prof Tan

27:55 Are the cracks showing in the WP, despite show of unity in Parliament?

30:15 Possible leadership challenge within the WP?

34:29 This issue an “albatross” around the WP’s neck: Prof Tan

41:51 Peh on why Pritam didn’t resign first

42:57 What does removing the LO office mean for S’pore politics?

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Workers&rsquo; Party chief Pritam Singh has been removed as Leader of the Opposition by Prime Minister Lawrence Wong, a day after Parliament debated his suitability for the role.
PM Wong has invited the WP to nominate another elected MP. But the person put forth has to be an MP who has not been implicated in the earlier findings of the Committee of Privileges that looked into former MP Raeesah Khan&rsquo;s&nbsp;conduct in Parliament.
The saga started in 2021 when Ms Khan lied in Parliament. It led to an inquiry by the COP to uncover the sequence of events of who knew what, and when. Mr Singh was later convicted by the courts for lying to the COP. What happens now, and are cracks beginning to show within the party, especially as some cadres have called for a special conference?
On this episode to discuss the Parliament debate and the implications of Mr Singh losing the role are:
<ul>
<li>Mr Peh Shing Huei, a regular commentator on Singapore politics and a former ST news editor. He is also the founding partner of content agency The Nutgraf, and author of several books about politicians and people in government, and</li>
<li>Singapore Management University&rsquo;s Associate Professor of Law Eugene Tan, who is a political analyst. He was also a former Nominated Member of Parliament.</li>
</ul>
Highlights (click/tap above):
1:47 Lifting of the WP whip for debate about Pritam Singh
5:08 &ldquo;It wasn&rsquo;t a good day at the office for Parliament.&rdquo;: Prof Tan
9:57 Pritam vs Tharman: What&rsquo;s the difference in cases?
14:22 Will there be a political cost to the PAP for this motion?
17:14 Was it the right move for WP MP to bring up PAP MP&rsquo;s indiscretion?
22:23 Fatigue about the matter
25:23 &ldquo;This is closing the loop.&rdquo;: Prof Tan
27:55 Are the cracks showing in the WP, despite show of unity in Parliament?
30:15 Possible leadership challenge within the WP?
34:29 This issue an &ldquo;albatross&rdquo; around the WP&rsquo;s neck: Prof Tan
41:51 Peh on why Pritam didn&rsquo;t resign first
42:57 What does removing the LO office mean for S&rsquo;pore politics?
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Why companies are ‘cautious’ with hiring

Use your network instead of mass applying 

Using LinkedIn to gauge the job market 

Future-proof your job against AI

2026 - here comes “quiet cracking” 

Finding a new job may be on your resolution list this year, but will it be the right move in 2026?

Much of the job market in 2025 was dominated by uncertainty and mixed signals.

Fresh university graduates shared – and documented on social media – their struggles landing interviews and jobs, despite sending out multiple resumes.

Retrenchments climbed in the third quarter of 2025 after dipping in the previous two quarters, while job vacancies continued to fall, according to the Ministry of Manpower’s third-quarter labour report. There were 69,200 job openings in September, down from 76,900 in June, the report said.

Meanwhile, the workforce was constantly cautioned about how artificial intelligence could reshape – and potentially displace – many roles.

Will it be more of the same in 2026, or will the market turn in favour of job seekers?

In this episode of The Usual Place, I want to find out how job seekers can navigate the market and what kind of upskilling we need to make career changes.

Joining me on the podcast are:


Ms Serla Rusli, a LinkedIn career expert who advises job seekers on career matters based on hiring and job market trends, and


Ms Joyce Bijl, business development director for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East at ManpowerGroup, a global company that deals with workforce solutions.

We’ll also discuss whether more employees will continue with “quiet quitting” or “job hugging”.

Highlights (click/tap above):

1:50 Why companies are ‘cautious’ with hiring despite better GDP growth

6:36 Use existing network instead of mass applying for jobs 

12:44 How to use LinkedIn to gauge the job market 

18:04 How to future-proof your job against the AI disruption

35:03 Trending in 2026 - move over “quiet quitting,” here comes “quiet cracking” 

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Edited by: Teo Tong Kai, Eden Soh and Chen Junyi

Executive producers: Danson Cheong, Elizabeth Khor & Ernest Luis

Editorial producers: Elizabeth Law & Lynda Hong

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Finding a new job may be on your resolution list this year, but will it be the right move in 2026? Much of the job market in 2025 was dominated by uncertainty and mixed signals. Fresh university graduates shared &ndash; and documented on social media &ndash; <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsGMqDaui8I&amp;list=PLGTHbevSko-WsAqoM5NUcG2W_QfStRuKc&amp;index=21&amp;ref=inline-article" aria-label="link" data-testid="custom-link"></a>their struggles landing interviews and jobs, despite sending out multiple resumes.
<a href="https://www.straitstimes.com/business/economy/singapore-sees-more-retrenchments-in-third-quarter-as-job-vacancies-continued-to-drop?ref=inline-article" aria-label="link" data-testid="custom-link"></a>Retrenchments climbed in the third quarter of 2025 after dipping in the previous two quarters, while job vacancies continued to fall, according to the Ministry of Manpower&rsquo;s third-quarter labour report. There were 69,200 job openings in September, down from 76,900 in June, the report said.
Meanwhile, the workforce was constantly cautioned about how artificial intelligence could reshape &ndash; and potentially displace &ndash; many roles. Will it be more of the same in 2026, or will the market turn in favour of job seekers? In this episode of The Usual Place, I want to find out how job seekers can navigate the market and what kind of upskilling we need to make career changes.
Joining me on the podcast are:
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Ms Serla Rusli, a LinkedIn career expert who advises job seekers on career matters based on hiring and job market trends, and
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Ms Joyce Bijl, business development director for Asia-Pacific and the Middle East at ManpowerGroup, a global company that deals with workforce solutions.
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We&rsquo;ll also discuss whether more employees will continue with &ldquo;quiet quitting&rdquo; or &ldquo;job hugging&rdquo;. Highlights (click/tap above): 1:50 Why companies are &lsquo;cautious&rsquo; with hiring despite better GDP growth
6:36 Use existing network instead of mass applying for jobs&nbsp;
12:44 How to use LinkedIn to gauge the job market&nbsp;
18:04 How to future-proof your job against the AI disruption
35:03 Trending in 2026 - move over &ldquo;quiet quitting,&rdquo; here comes &ldquo;quiet cracking&rdquo;&nbsp;
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Edited by: Teo Tong Kai, Eden Soh and Chen Junyi
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Editorial producers: Elizabeth Law &amp; Lynda Hong
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