As we reflect on the 30 years of democracy, we often look to elders to help us navigate some of the lessons we have had to learn on this path of freedom and give us wisdom for the road ahead.

Our next guest served during the first administration of our democratic dispensation: the Mandela era. In a recent speech, he argues that there is still a long way to go in our democratic journey. He argues that the journey to nation-building requires all of us. In the speech, he highlighted what he believes we need to urgently address: the outcome recent elections, land, access to water, malnutrition and shares his concerns on growing incidents of racism within communities. In this hour, he wants us to look forward and unpack what we need to do as citizens to get the South Africa that we want and truly deserve. We are joined by…

Guest : Jay Naidoo - Former Minister in the Mandela administration, the founding secretary-general for COSATU and Author of the forthcoming book, Love ans Revolution (February 2025)