Ron Podcast. And we're back at the Ron Burgundy Podcast season two. Baby. After a long back and forth with my heart, a few lawsuits, two mysterious deaths, and a whole lot of memories, we are back in the studio. During our hiatus, I'm happy to say that Carolina went to rehab. I know, I know, I went on a yoga tree. It's not rehab. Okay, well, that's a great cover story, which reminds me Carolina. Baxter and I listened to the whole first season of the podcast, and after listening, we decided to scrap it. We're not going to release it, but it was just too rough. But we know what we did wrong. And to be honest, there there could be less of you in this season because this one we're definitely going to release. Season one got released into the general public. Are you serious? Yeah, it's just it's out there, Oh so embarrassing. Are they going to release this episode, the one recording right now? Yes, they released all of them. Cripes. Okay, well that's better be good. I mean, you better pull it together, Carolina. Hope that trip to the looney bin set you straight. It was a yoga retreat into lou Mexico. I'm glad we're on the air today because there have been some rumors circling and I have to make an official statement. After talking to my family and my friends and some strangers online, I have decided, after years of thought and dreams, that I will not be running for president. Okay, So to everyone out there listening to this fireside chat, I know it's a lot to take in at once. How do you feel about it, Carolina? Um, I feel about the same as I did before you said it. Okay, so you don't You don't feel upset? No, a way, I'm actually relieved. I mean, that would be so scary if you're running for president. Scary. Well, that's it's a bit insulting. No. I mean, Ron, I really enjoy you as a colleague, and I think that recording a podcast with you has been an adventure. But a president has enormous responsibilities. Okay, but I could do it. I could do it pretty simple stuff. You just have to be honest and remain calm and keep the country running smoothly, you know, making sure no shenanigans are taking place. I think I'd be good at that. I can do some tough work. This this podcast, you know, hasn't been a slice of cake. Well, you fired three people yesterday, and don't you think that shows my leadership strengths. No, I mean after you fired them, we had to hire three new people and it took the rest of our work day to really interview candidates. You know that happens. Yeah, right, I mean not really. But it's fine. But did it slow us down? Absolutely, But it's not like it ground owned this operation to a complete hall. It absolutely did. We couldn't record. Okay, they just rubbed me the wrong way. So one of them just said hi to you, but with a smirk. Okay, it could have been a smile, but that's besides. And the other guy always wore a stupid captain's hat. It was a baseball hat. Well, what's happened has happened? All right? Today we're talking to a woman, Senator Kamala Harris, who was running for president in the year two. Hindsight, Yes it is. Let me ask you, Carolina, how hard is it to become president when you're a woman. Um, well, it's never happened before, and there have been women who have been qualified, so yeah, it seems very difficult. And why why is that do we think? Um? You know, well, there are a lot of prejudices and misconceptions about women. Yes, that they can't read your mind, you know, but have you ever seen the movie What Women Want starring Mel Gibson. He could read women's minds to the tune of three hundred and seventy five million w w BO. Um, what does that have to do with what we're talking about? Three hundred and seventy five million w w BO? Do you know what w w b OH stands for? Worldwide box office? Because he had the ability to read women's minds. I don't know what you're talking about, um, But as I was saying, some common misconceptions about women are that were easily distracted or emotional, or can't be in charge of important decisions, can't be respected. Wait wait wait wait, shut up, shut up, Carolina. I just realized I left Baxter at the Dippin' Dots down in Thousand Oaks. Sorry, can you please pick him up if he's lost? Caroline? I just anything to get him back. I probably smash all the windows in this place. Nick is back to your back there? Oh thank god. Okay, anyway, we have a big interview today with Senator Kamala Harris. I'm very nervous and very excited. UM, and you're prepared, right because you got those policy questions I gave you yes. Okay, great, because this is a big deal. Listen between you and I. I think I'm just gonna wing it. Please do not do that. You have no idea how hard it was to do. I feel like I work better when i'm relaxed, you know, I know that's how you feel. I'm just gonna wing it. Just look at these questions. Please. Up next, we have a presidential candidate from the future year, Senator Kamala Harris Presidential. I'm throwing out the notes, folks, please going rogue. This is gonna be a wild one, right Carolina, I hope not. We'll be right back and welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. UM. We are very excited to have one of the most esteemed guests that we've ever had on the show. Uh, Senator, former Motley Crue bandmate and presidential candidate Kamala Harris. Kamala, thank you so much. It's great to be with you, Ron. Thank you. You know what, as soon as I said that out loud, I think you you weren't a member of Motley Crue. Were you not in this life? Okay? Yeah? Did you do you play a musical instrument? You know? I actually played many musical instruments in high school. Um, I played the violin, I played the French horn. But it's a messy instrument. Yeah, it's messy. You have to kind of keep emptying the cartridge. Then I moved on to the percussions. I played the xylophone, and that I thought it could get more interesting, so I played the vibraphone and then yeah, and then I moved on to the kettle drums, which was really fantastic because you're in the back, yes, and you've got these big batons and these huge drums in front of you, and you just not you the kettle on the kettle drum. That's okay, we'll believe it out. Don't worry. Don't worry. But I've always hated the fact that the kettle drums are in the back. Move them to the front. I agree they should be in the front. They deserve so much more attention. But that is why one plays them the way we do to get that. Well, if this plays out in your favor, maybe that can be your first executive order to force all high school symphonies to move the kettle drums to the front of the band. Yeah, something you're thinking about. No, we should stop the coordinating the kettle drums. I agree with you. So we finally cut We covered that kettle drums. Good. Um you were you start out District attorney San Francisco. What was hard about that job? Is it the snack breaks, all the snack brakes you have to take legally? Well, no, ron Um, it was you know, what was hard about the job was saying some of the worst of human behavior. I mean I specialized for a while in assault of children. Um. I you know, spent a lot of time over the years with moms whose sons had been killed. Um. That was rough stuff. It was rough stuff and um, but it was also there were highlights I enjoyed when I was district attorney, challenging the status quo and I said, look, um, let's stop acting like you know, there are only two ways to do criminal justice policy. You know, people would say you're either soft on crime or tough on crime, and say, no, let's be smart on crime. Let's look at prevention as one of the smart just ways to create public safety, and so I started an initiative, you know, and everybody was like, why are you doing this? I started initiative focused on low level on drug sales offenders and getting them jobs and counseling, and when they graduated the program, I dismissed the charges against them. And that was incredible work in terms of just seeing that the human potential that when you give people the opportunity to reach for something, they will naturally reach for it. And so there were highlights. Your parents were civil rights activists. I mean, were they pissed when they found out you wanted to become a d A. They were curious about the decision, and with some of them and some of my family, I had to defend the decision like one would a thesis. But you know what I said, then, I'm glad I didn't grow up in your family, because I don't know what the word thesis means. So, yes, it means you have to do you have to defend your point, You have to um, you have to be able to to articulate why you're doing something as opposed to just doing it and everyone accepts it without challenging your reasons. And my reasons were that the criminal justice system Listen, I was born knowing how flawed it is. I didn't have to learn about it. I have to read about it. I knew it. And I felt that when you want to reform systems, um, let's also think about being inside the system where we can have the power to reform it from the inside. And so that was the choice I made, and um and I don't regret that choice because having been on the inside, I was able to create re entry initiatives for low level offenders. I was able to say, look, children who are being prostituted should not be thought of as teenage prostitutes. We should think of them as sexually exploited you and give them the safety and the and the support that they deserve. I was able to do things like saying that we're gonna acknowledge that the war on drugs was a complete failure and we need to have a different approach that understands that it's actually a public health issue more than it is from Retal Justice Issia, you were also attorney general, yes, for the state of California, And just so I'm clear what branch of the military is that it's not a branch of the military. Run it's actually but you're you're a general, Yes I was. I was, General Harris. You are correct, but it's a it's it's a part of the executive branch of government. Got it. So nothing to do with the military. Correct, Okay, Well I'm learning. This is what I love about this podcast. I learned as much as the audience does sometimes more. Um, So that's good to know, Attorney General. Nothing to do with the military. Although I did speak out about how we want to make sure that law enforcement is not militarized. So there you're onto something, they're not on the zone. It wasn't the worst question you've ever been asked. No, it was not the worst, but like might be top ten it was. And what does that mean for law enforcement to be militarized, meaning that we don't want local law enforcement to be or conduct itself as a branch of the military. We we do not and should not think of local law enforcement as being engaged in a war. Um. Local law enforcement has is its primary purpose making sure people are safe in a community, and so that's part of it. And so we want to make sure that local LA enforcement is not equipped with tools that are tools of war, because that's not their function and that should not be the perspective. With your legal expertise, your knowledge, extensive background, I want to ask you a question. Let's let's say one a person kept hinting to someone who works very closely with them, in fact, that that person is female, has curly hair, and wears glasses. And you, that person was hinting to that other person that all you've ever wanted was a small boat, specifically a catamaran. And you you hint, and you hint, and you hint, and then your birthday rolls around and nada, nothing zip. Can you take that person to small claims court? No? Thank you? Thank you. If someone makes a funny face at me, small claims court. No, my soup was too hot, more importantly, too spicy at a restaurant, small claime score. Well, there's tea hot and pea hot. For pea hot, no, that'd be pepper hot for tea hot. Potentially that's temperature hot. Um if for example, it was so hot that injured you know, and there was no you know, giving you any notice that it might be too hot and wait, potentially potentially hot. And so when I walk into a restaurant. I'm going to say, what's your tea hot level? I think that's smart. You should do that, or your hot Hopefully they know those terms, because right it might be missing to exactly you know what's it's exactly right? Um, a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. Herbert Hoover, Ronald Reagan. Let's make America great again? No, no, Donald Trump, Let's make America gay again. Why what was America more gay than it is now? America could not be gay enough. I love that. That's my slogan. Yeah, so to Mr Trump, make America gay again? It was that? Is that what you mixed it up? Trump's is make America grade again? Okay, all right, Well I'm not very political, so that's why this is so great. This is this is a wonderful exercise for me. Do you have a campaign slogan at this point? For the people? Kamala Harris, for the people, simple to the point, for the people. And that means it means that this is by the people. It's for the people. It's fueled by the people. It means that I intend to be a leader that will be committed to the service of other people as opposed to self service and self interests, and um, it means hard for me. And well, yeah, but that's why you're not running. I'm sorry to tell you. We've gone back and forth. Is he thinking about it? I just announced, I Wasn't you announced you were prior to your arrival. Okay, I mean, there's still time if you want to jump in, but it might be putting as to bed. Besides, I tried to. I tried to put some feelers out to raise some money for my campaign. I'm fifteen thousand in the hole. I raised negative fifteen thousand dollars in my first day. Yeah, you Ron had a party and to raise money. But he well, people just got in touch with me and reminded me of their debts that I owe them. Yeah, the debts I owe to them. So yeah, sometimes when you reach out to people, that's what happened. Okay. So it's no secret that running for office brings a lot of scrutiny. Um, for instance, you know, a few neighborhood kids made fun of my mustache once, and and sometimes I can't leave the house because I don't want to run into those me neighborhood kids. I mean, how do you think or how are people going to criticize you during your run. Well, I've already heard some criticism around, for example, my belief that we should have free community college and debt free college for all. And people say, well, you know you're living a pipe dream. How are you going to pay for that? And my response is that, look that that's really shortsighted to think of it as a cost. Instead, we should be understanding it's an investment. And UM I challenge people to understand that. Even in the private sector, people know you put money in as an investment because you will get a great return on the investment r o I and so, but you know, people are critical of that. People are critical of my position that we should legalize marijuana. UM. They say, how can you say that? You're a former prosecutor. But I say it because I know, I know really well how the criminalization of marijuana has resulted in the mass incarceration problem that we have in our country. It has resulted in UM desperate kind of application of the laws UM and particular adversely against black and Latino young men. UM. And those are some of the areas that people are critical of, their critical of um my perspective on you know, the Green New Deal. But I say, look, climate change is one of the most existential threats to us as human beings, as a species, and we need to take it seriously and have a sense of urgency about it and have goals that are specific. We may not reach them all, but let's be let's be aggressive about this because this is the only planet we've got. So when the current president says we need global warming because the winners are getting too cold, you would disagree. I think that he is selling science fiction instead of science fact, and the only way to change that perspective is to have a new precedent. I love science fiction, though that's the only thing. Well, it's okay to read it, but you don't want to live it fair enough, it's kind of different. Um, here's the thing. The primaries are going to happen. Everyone's going to start to make distinctions between each other. But at the end of the day, how does everyone keep the harmony h and not rip each other the shreds to the point where there's no going backwards. I think we will keep the harmony when we agree and understand that we are common purpose chicken in every pot car and every garage, car every garage. Um, what do you think about men speaking over women? It happens a lot, yes, and it should not. Everyone should have an equal voice and should be respected when they speak, and should be listened to. I think that's fair, absolutely, And I just have to say, as a woman, it's always so exciting to have a female candidate run. And I'm sure you're so tired of hearing the word of female before candidate, but it just means, yes, it's so important to have a female candidate. Okay, just overlook that part, Caroline. I would do that. That's what I do most of the time when it's phrased that way. Just pretend you didn't hear it. Um. And also, Senator, the night of the election, your victory speech was so helpful and processing what was by the way I was going to say the night of the election run? Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying? Never mind? That's that's fine. Um, we have a male president. Now, how do you think it's going not so well? And what do you mean by that? Ron? You've got to get to the point that you are a little bit more self aware. I think that's important, you know, so, so yeah, but it's not going well him. You're you're fine. I'm well, thank you. I feel great. I lost four pounds last week. Yeah, that's going great. You feel good. I feel good. Yes, I feel very good. Um. All right, let me ask you this. Top four favorite politicians ever. And they have to be real people. Oh, they have to be real, meaning alive, or they truly existed, they truly exist. In other words, you know the guy from the West Wing, he wasn't really president, No, he was not. Um, I would say, surely Chisholm. I would say, Bobby Kennedy. I would say Abraham Lincoln. I would say, Um. You know one of the people I think is really great who is still living, but who has done really great work on an issue like climate change, for example, is Jerry Brown. UM governor, former governor, former governor of California, Jerry Brown. And I believe he was in her ten times practically, Yes, you broke all the records. Yeah, I mean I didn't agree with everything he did, but UM, I do appreciate that he always as a leader, had a vision of the future and tried to connect where we're going to end up with where we are now. Um, and thinking about solutions and ways to mitigate harm in the future. And do you ever when you feel frustrated by politics or exhausted or sort of sort of feel like sisiphus um, do you ever look to any of these moments in these politicians careers as an inspiration or I do? I mean, look, you know someone I've been thinking a lot about because I am running for president is Shirley chisholm Um. I love the fact that she would just own that microphone and speak truth and unburdened by what might what others might think of, as as the appropriateness of her being present and speaking as forcefully and as strongly she did. You know, she that famous saying she was unbought and unbossed. And I take great inspiration from that because she understood that she was a voice of truth and a voice that must be heard. And she just went to that microphone and took hold of it and didn't ask permission. Someone, I'm surprised that you left off the list. And may he rest in peace, Sonny Bono. Oh he wasn't a politician. Oh he was. He was a congressman. Oh yeah, sorry, So guess what I got that one right, jerk? No, you're not a jerk. I just feel really good that I got Sonny Bono correct. Uh, okay, changing gears here. Net neutrality, what does it mean? I mean, what will it make it harder for me to upload my chili recipe on ron Burgundy Chili recipes dot com. Well, if we're committed to net neutrality, you will be able to upload your chill with no problem. Um. The problem is that there are people in Washington, d C. That are trying to end net neutrality, and I am vehemently opposed to that. Everyone should have equal access. It's like being on a freeway, and why should somebody who has more money be able to be in a lane that moves quicker and with with greater access than you know, a working person who doesn't have the kind of money to spend extra on a lane, a specific lane on a freeway. And the argument for it is just focus revenue and you could tax it and that sort of thing. Well, the argument for ending end lenge is basically, let the so called free market have its way. But the free market doesn't necessarily represent a fair market, and we have to understand the difference. And this is the point about the role of government. The role of government should be to have some level of oversight and ability to regulate behaviors that might become abusive in a way that harms consumers. And you know, I mean I was Attorney general California, the largest state in the country, forty million people, for two terms. One of my primary responsibilities was to fight for consumers, and so it ranged from always taking a position on net neutrality and in favor of that, to fighting for homeowners against the five big banks the United States, to fighting against pharmaceutical companies that were trying and suppress UM what was happening around developing generic drugs. UM there. Their abuses will occur, and we have to acknowledge that, and so we have to have rules in place that allow all people to have access to certain fundamental resources, and net neutrality is one of those issues. There is been a lot of discussion about voter turnout. Voter not so much voter turnout. Um, come on round. What am I trying to say here? Okay, uh, get it together, you can do this. Um, I'm just gonna spit it out. Should we get rid of the electoral college is a two parter. Should we get rid of it? And If so, where's the end Do we have to get rid of all the colleges? So the electoral college is a different and separate issue than college and universities. So that's not what that means. And we should definitely keep so we don't have to get rid of the Ivy League for instance. Correct, they should remain intact. Electoral college. I think electoral college and getting rid of it should be on the table for discussion. I'm open to that conversation. Um, it is an odd system when you try to explain it to it's difficult to explain overseas. Overseas I meant by Lake Michigan. Those are lakes and seas beautiful, gorgeous. Let me tell you it's gorgeous. The waters of Michigan Island. You literally you think you're in Disneyland looking at like you know, the fake water in Disneyland and disney World. You can on the surface of those legs, see right down to the clear, clear blue, beautiful water right down to the bottom. It's extraordinary. We think we have nice water in California. Let me tell you nothing. It's true. I've always said that in Carolina. Doesn't believe me, And that's why we're going to take a road trip to Legs and then you can get that boat. Is that's what the point was? Fresh water catamaran? Yeah, which is different? Get it ocean water. Here's something that's interesting. I'd read a recent court ruling in favor of a woman who was ticketed for giving a police officer the middle finger, arguing that she was protected to do so under the First Amendment. Thoughts, I think anyone should be able to give anyone the finger and not be concerned about getting arrested. Yes, it's a form of expression. I've been arrested so many times for that though. That's the only problems to Yeah, now that's a different category of expression. Um So, when did you know? And I probably should have asked this earlier, when did you know you had to run for president? Did someone double dare you? No? You know? It was really more? Um, I guess fundamentally it was. You know, I was raised by a mother. She raised two of us, my sister and me, and she was the kind of parent that if you came home complaining about something, the first thing she do is look at you. And she was like five ft tall. My mother was five ft tall. If you ever met her, you would have thought she was seven ft tall. And if you came home complaining about something, the first thing she do is she'd look at you and she'd say, well, what are you going to do about it? So I decided to run for president? Got you no excuses, just why why playing? Just get out there and try to fix it, make some changes. Now, most presidents get dogs when they're elected to the White House. That's a great point, unless they're psychopaths. If you are elected president, what kind of puppy, Well, we'll see in the White House. Any thoughts on that? Oh, I would do a rescue dog, okay for sure. Whether breathe you like? I mean, you know I I love mutts, Yeah, I really do. Um they and they are smart and they are fun. Baxter, my dog, Baxter's a mutton. He's the love of my life, even though I love lasa apsos. M hm. But we don't have to comment on no comment. Now, this is kind of the question we've all been waiting for. People have been wondering, and I can't believe I'm asking this, but I'm just going to ask, are you considering me to be your vice president? And I will take no offense to your honest answer either way. But frankly, well, Ron, you know, I mean everything is on the table for consideration. That's not a no, that's not a no. You know what, I'll take any cabinet position too, whether it's commerce, labor, dance department, any of the top. What do you think about creating a new cabinet position, because you know there has been talking about how we need to expand the cabinet even more. Yeah, yeah, well what do you Because I part of why I'm here is is to really listen to you and get your thoughts as a potential constituent well and also as a potential partner as we go forward and lead the country. So I would like to create the cabinet position of Minister of Cool Cars. I just show up in a cool car every time. So and there would be a connection between that and growing the economy, like would we because we'd manufactured the cars here, right, I would hope. Shoot already made an agreement with Toyota. Yeah, you already made an agreement with Toyota. We just talked about the beauty of Michigan And no, I know, I mean, well, I can talk to him. I'll see if I can get out of it. Why did I sign that paperwork? Okay, yeah, we might have to revisit this conversation. Here's the thing, any candidate, the Iowa Caucus is a major thing. And of course part of the amazing state of Iowa is the Iowa State Fair. Yes, and we have a list over here of all the list of Iowa State Fair stick foods down and there are a shocking amount. And I'm just wondering if you, I mean, this is the first time you're looking at it. For there are eighty two items. Do any of them stand out to I mean, there's something down here that I saw, coconut mountain. I don't know what that is, but I'd order a couple of conut mountains. I would. Let's so, let's see the cheddar bacon cheese on a stick would be really on me, Apple fritter bites, double bacon, corn dog, good night Irene. Then there's something just called egg on a chocolate covered peanut butter bark that count me in the same here. I'm not convinced about egg on a stick. Yeah, that seems a little messy. Um. Then oh, let's see. So then oh, the Italian bacon wrap on a stick, palapeeno corn dog. I would definitely have that jumbo toasted marshmallow on a stick. You know, I don't love marshmallows. Okay, that's fair enough, all right, I'd like them. I mean, like the little ones on in hot cocoa if they're like really, I hope the marshmallow lobby doesn't get a wind of this. No, you know, And s'mores I like them, but um, Carolina, any of these stand out to you? Brisket, peanut butter, and jelly fritters. Um. Then there's something called hot lips, breaded chicken breast smothered with hots off, served with blue cheese dressing. So that's like buffalo wings by a four hour nap. Yeah, and you know what, that's what I'm thinking, Like, I could definitely eat my way through the Ioway. You can hold onto that list just because you will be canvassing there and it's just good to know this is going to be fun and you should come. Maybe I was gonna say, maybe we'll maybe we'll run in you guys should come? Would yeah? Okay, great, won't that be fun? That would be the best. Ron was actually so nervous about this question because you know what, Carolina, you guys can then Ron, you can interview people at the fair. It would be a wonderful way to get a real slice of American the Iowa State Fair located in Iowa, yes, August eight. It will be a nice mild temperature. Oh yeah, I wouldn't be sweating through my polyester suit at Senator Harris, we cannot thank you enough for joining us here on the podcast, for sharing your insight and your views, and we wish you all the best. We know it's a it's a long road, um, but it will end up positively for you no matter what. Thank you was a great sentence, by the way. All right, we'll be right back on the Ron Burgundy Podcast right after this. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. What a pleasure to have a U. S. Senator in the studio. And the cool thing is this upcoming election is going to be extremely elegant and orderly. She won't be treated any differently than any of the other candidates. I actually might run for president really probably not, No, it's what's right, you know what. Maybe I will, but I really don't have the time. Maybe let's just table it then, no, I have things to say. I gotta get on that campaign trail. It's a lot of work, I know. I just want to take a bath. You should run, though, I was thinking about actually a for city, Caroline. I was kidding. You literally have toilet paper stuck to your shoe. You've had it stuck there the whole day. I wish you told me that and not broadcast it on the podcast. That's all for today, folks. Thank you, Senator Kamala Harris. What an honor. And we're looking at low sixties for the next week or two, and then we're gonna take a jump and hit high seventies on Sunday. Up north here on this map, we're looking at some light showers. Sorry, I forgot my weather report. We're gonna we're gonna scrap this episode. We'll see you next week. The Run Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart Radio and Funnier Die. I'm Ron Burgundy. The host, writer, and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer, and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nick Stump, Miles Gray, and Whitney hot Act. Our executive producer is Mike farre Our consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is Colin McDougall. Our associate producers are Anna Hosnier and Sophie Lichterman. Our writer is Jake Foblist. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobson. This episode was engineered, mixed, and edited by Nick Stuff. Until next time, Mrs ron Burgundy

Ron Podcast. And we're back at the Ron Burgundy Podcast season two. Baby. After a long back and forth with my heart, a few lawsuits, two mysterious deaths, and a whole lot of memories, we are back in the studio. During our hiatus, I'm happy to say that Carolina went to rehab. I know, I know, I went on a yoga tree. It's not rehab. Okay, well, that's a great cover story, which reminds me Carolina. Baxter and I listened to the whole first season of the podcast, and after listening, we decided to scrap it. We're not going to release it, but it was just too rough. But we know what we did wrong. And to be honest, there there could be less of you in this season because this one we're definitely going to release. Season one got released into the general public. Are you serious? Yeah, it's just it's out there, Oh so embarrassing. Are they going to release this episode, the one recording right now? Yes, they released all of them. Cripes. Okay, well that's better be good. I mean, you better pull it together, Carolina. Hope that trip to the looney bin set you straight. It was a yoga retreat into lou Mexico. I'm glad we're on the air today because there have been some rumors circling and I have to make an official statement. After talking to my family and my friends and some strangers online, I have decided, after years of thought and dreams, that I will not be running for president. Okay, So to everyone out there listening to this fireside chat, I know it's a lot to take in at once. How do you feel about it, Carolina? Um, I feel about the same as I did before you said it. Okay, so you don't You don't feel upset? No, a way, I'm actually relieved. I mean, that would be so scary if you're running for president. Scary. Well, that's it's a bit insulting. No. I mean, Ron, I really enjoy you as a colleague, and I think that recording a podcast with you has been an adventure. But a president has enormous responsibilities. Okay, but I could do it. I could do it pretty simple stuff. You just have to be honest and remain calm and keep the country running smoothly, you know, making sure no shenanigans are taking place. I think I'd be good at that. I can do some tough work. This this podcast, you know, hasn't been a slice of cake. Well, you fired three people yesterday, and don't you think that shows my leadership strengths. No, I mean after you fired them, we had to hire three new people and it took the rest of our work day to really interview candidates. You know that happens. Yeah, right, I mean not really. But it's fine. But did it slow us down? Absolutely, But it's not like it ground owned this operation to a complete hall. It absolutely did. We couldn't record. Okay, they just rubbed me the wrong way. So one of them just said hi to you, but with a smirk. Okay, it could have been a smile, but that's besides. And the other guy always wore a stupid captain's hat. It was a baseball hat. Well, what's happened has happened? All right? Today we're talking to a woman, Senator Kamala Harris, who was running for president in the year two. Hindsight, Yes it is. Let me ask you, Carolina, how hard is it to become president when you're a woman. Um, well, it's never happened before, and there have been women who have been qualified, so yeah, it seems very difficult. And why why is that do we think? Um? You know, well, there are a lot of prejudices and misconceptions about women. Yes, that they can't read your mind, you know, but have you ever seen the movie What Women Want starring Mel Gibson. He could read women's minds to the tune of three hundred and seventy five million w w BO. Um, what does that have to do with what we're talking about? Three hundred and seventy five million w w BO? Do you know what w w b OH stands for? Worldwide box office? Because he had the ability to read women's minds. I don't know what you're talking about, um, But as I was saying, some common misconceptions about women are that were easily distracted or emotional, or can't be in charge of important decisions, can't be respected. Wait wait wait wait, shut up, shut up, Carolina. I just realized I left Baxter at the Dippin' Dots down in Thousand Oaks. Sorry, can you please pick him up if he's lost? Caroline? I just anything to get him back. I probably smash all the windows in this place. Nick is back to your back there? Oh thank god. Okay, anyway, we have a big interview today with Senator Kamala Harris. I'm very nervous and very excited. UM, and you're prepared, right because you got those policy questions I gave you yes. Okay, great, because this is a big deal. Listen between you and I. I think I'm just gonna wing it. Please do not do that. You have no idea how hard it was to do. I feel like I work better when i'm relaxed, you know, I know that's how you feel. I'm just gonna wing it. Just look at these questions. Please. Up next, we have a presidential candidate from the future year, Senator Kamala Harris Presidential. I'm throwing out the notes, folks, please going rogue. This is gonna be a wild one, right Carolina, I hope not. We'll be right back and welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. UM. We are very excited to have one of the most esteemed guests that we've ever had on the show. Uh, Senator, former Motley Crue bandmate and presidential candidate Kamala Harris. Kamala, thank you so much. It's great to be with you, Ron. Thank you. You know what, as soon as I said that out loud, I think you you weren't a member of Motley Crue. Were you not in this life? Okay? Yeah? Did you do you play a musical instrument? You know? I actually played many musical instruments in high school. Um, I played the violin, I played the French horn. But it's a messy instrument. Yeah, it's messy. You have to kind of keep emptying the cartridge. Then I moved on to the percussions. I played the xylophone, and that I thought it could get more interesting, so I played the vibraphone and then yeah, and then I moved on to the kettle drums, which was really fantastic because you're in the back, yes, and you've got these big batons and these huge drums in front of you, and you just not you the kettle on the kettle drum. That's okay, we'll believe it out. Don't worry. Don't worry. But I've always hated the fact that the kettle drums are in the back. Move them to the front. I agree they should be in the front. They deserve so much more attention. But that is why one plays them the way we do to get that. Well, if this plays out in your favor, maybe that can be your first executive order to force all high school symphonies to move the kettle drums to the front of the band. Yeah, something you're thinking about. No, we should stop the coordinating the kettle drums. I agree with you. So we finally cut We covered that kettle drums. Good. Um you were you start out District attorney San Francisco. What was hard about that job? Is it the snack breaks, all the snack brakes you have to take legally? Well, no, ron Um, it was you know, what was hard about the job was saying some of the worst of human behavior. I mean I specialized for a while in assault of children. Um. I you know, spent a lot of time over the years with moms whose sons had been killed. Um. That was rough stuff. It was rough stuff and um, but it was also there were highlights I enjoyed when I was district attorney, challenging the status quo and I said, look, um, let's stop acting like you know, there are only two ways to do criminal justice policy. You know, people would say you're either soft on crime or tough on crime, and say, no, let's be smart on crime. Let's look at prevention as one of the smart just ways to create public safety, and so I started an initiative, you know, and everybody was like, why are you doing this? I started initiative focused on low level on drug sales offenders and getting them jobs and counseling, and when they graduated the program, I dismissed the charges against them. And that was incredible work in terms of just seeing that the human potential that when you give people the opportunity to reach for something, they will naturally reach for it. And so there were highlights. Your parents were civil rights activists. I mean, were they pissed when they found out you wanted to become a d A. They were curious about the decision, and with some of them and some of my family, I had to defend the decision like one would a thesis. But you know what I said, then, I'm glad I didn't grow up in your family, because I don't know what the word thesis means. So, yes, it means you have to do you have to defend your point, You have to um, you have to be able to to articulate why you're doing something as opposed to just doing it and everyone accepts it without challenging your reasons. And my reasons were that the criminal justice system Listen, I was born knowing how flawed it is. I didn't have to learn about it. I have to read about it. I knew it. And I felt that when you want to reform systems, um, let's also think about being inside the system where we can have the power to reform it from the inside. And so that was the choice I made, and um and I don't regret that choice because having been on the inside, I was able to create re entry initiatives for low level offenders. I was able to say, look, children who are being prostituted should not be thought of as teenage prostitutes. We should think of them as sexually exploited you and give them the safety and the and the support that they deserve. I was able to do things like saying that we're gonna acknowledge that the war on drugs was a complete failure and we need to have a different approach that understands that it's actually a public health issue more than it is from Retal Justice Issia, you were also attorney general, yes, for the state of California, And just so I'm clear what branch of the military is that it's not a branch of the military. Run it's actually but you're you're a general, Yes I was. I was, General Harris. You are correct, but it's a it's it's a part of the executive branch of government. Got it. So nothing to do with the military. Correct, Okay, Well I'm learning. This is what I love about this podcast. I learned as much as the audience does sometimes more. Um, So that's good to know, Attorney General. Nothing to do with the military. Although I did speak out about how we want to make sure that law enforcement is not militarized. So there you're onto something, they're not on the zone. It wasn't the worst question you've ever been asked. No, it was not the worst, but like might be top ten it was. And what does that mean for law enforcement to be militarized, meaning that we don't want local law enforcement to be or conduct itself as a branch of the military. We we do not and should not think of local law enforcement as being engaged in a war. Um. Local law enforcement has is its primary purpose making sure people are safe in a community, and so that's part of it. And so we want to make sure that local LA enforcement is not equipped with tools that are tools of war, because that's not their function and that should not be the perspective. With your legal expertise, your knowledge, extensive background, I want to ask you a question. Let's let's say one a person kept hinting to someone who works very closely with them, in fact, that that person is female, has curly hair, and wears glasses. And you, that person was hinting to that other person that all you've ever wanted was a small boat, specifically a catamaran. And you you hint, and you hint, and you hint, and then your birthday rolls around and nada, nothing zip. Can you take that person to small claims court? No? Thank you? Thank you. If someone makes a funny face at me, small claims court. No, my soup was too hot, more importantly, too spicy at a restaurant, small claime score. Well, there's tea hot and pea hot. For pea hot, no, that'd be pepper hot for tea hot. Potentially that's temperature hot. Um if for example, it was so hot that injured you know, and there was no you know, giving you any notice that it might be too hot and wait, potentially potentially hot. And so when I walk into a restaurant. I'm going to say, what's your tea hot level? I think that's smart. You should do that, or your hot Hopefully they know those terms, because right it might be missing to exactly you know what's it's exactly right? Um, a chicken in every pot and a car in every garage. Herbert Hoover, Ronald Reagan. Let's make America great again? No, no, Donald Trump, Let's make America gay again. Why what was America more gay than it is now? America could not be gay enough. I love that. That's my slogan. Yeah, so to Mr Trump, make America gay again? It was that? Is that what you mixed it up? Trump's is make America grade again? Okay, all right, Well I'm not very political, so that's why this is so great. This is this is a wonderful exercise for me. Do you have a campaign slogan at this point? For the people? Kamala Harris, for the people, simple to the point, for the people. And that means it means that this is by the people. It's for the people. It's fueled by the people. It means that I intend to be a leader that will be committed to the service of other people as opposed to self service and self interests, and um, it means hard for me. And well, yeah, but that's why you're not running. I'm sorry to tell you. We've gone back and forth. Is he thinking about it? I just announced, I Wasn't you announced you were prior to your arrival. Okay, I mean, there's still time if you want to jump in, but it might be putting as to bed. Besides, I tried to. I tried to put some feelers out to raise some money for my campaign. I'm fifteen thousand in the hole. I raised negative fifteen thousand dollars in my first day. Yeah, you Ron had a party and to raise money. But he well, people just got in touch with me and reminded me of their debts that I owe them. Yeah, the debts I owe to them. So yeah, sometimes when you reach out to people, that's what happened. Okay. So it's no secret that running for office brings a lot of scrutiny. Um, for instance, you know, a few neighborhood kids made fun of my mustache once, and and sometimes I can't leave the house because I don't want to run into those me neighborhood kids. I mean, how do you think or how are people going to criticize you during your run. Well, I've already heard some criticism around, for example, my belief that we should have free community college and debt free college for all. And people say, well, you know you're living a pipe dream. How are you going to pay for that? And my response is that, look that that's really shortsighted to think of it as a cost. Instead, we should be understanding it's an investment. And UM I challenge people to understand that. Even in the private sector, people know you put money in as an investment because you will get a great return on the investment r o I and so, but you know, people are critical of that. People are critical of my position that we should legalize marijuana. UM. They say, how can you say that? You're a former prosecutor. But I say it because I know, I know really well how the criminalization of marijuana has resulted in the mass incarceration problem that we have in our country. It has resulted in UM desperate kind of application of the laws UM and particular adversely against black and Latino young men. UM. And those are some of the areas that people are critical of, their critical of um my perspective on you know, the Green New Deal. But I say, look, climate change is one of the most existential threats to us as human beings, as a species, and we need to take it seriously and have a sense of urgency about it and have goals that are specific. We may not reach them all, but let's be let's be aggressive about this because this is the only planet we've got. So when the current president says we need global warming because the winners are getting too cold, you would disagree. I think that he is selling science fiction instead of science fact, and the only way to change that perspective is to have a new precedent. I love science fiction, though that's the only thing. Well, it's okay to read it, but you don't want to live it fair enough, it's kind of different. Um, here's the thing. The primaries are going to happen. Everyone's going to start to make distinctions between each other. But at the end of the day, how does everyone keep the harmony h and not rip each other the shreds to the point where there's no going backwards. I think we will keep the harmony when we agree and understand that we are common purpose chicken in every pot car and every garage, car every garage. Um, what do you think about men speaking over women? It happens a lot, yes, and it should not. Everyone should have an equal voice and should be respected when they speak, and should be listened to. I think that's fair, absolutely, And I just have to say, as a woman, it's always so exciting to have a female candidate run. And I'm sure you're so tired of hearing the word of female before candidate, but it just means, yes, it's so important to have a female candidate. Okay, just overlook that part, Caroline. I would do that. That's what I do most of the time when it's phrased that way. Just pretend you didn't hear it. Um. And also, Senator, the night of the election, your victory speech was so helpful and processing what was by the way I was going to say the night of the election run? Oh I'm sorry, what were you saying? Never mind? That's that's fine. Um, we have a male president. Now, how do you think it's going not so well? And what do you mean by that? Ron? You've got to get to the point that you are a little bit more self aware. I think that's important, you know, so, so yeah, but it's not going well him. You're you're fine. I'm well, thank you. I feel great. I lost four pounds last week. Yeah, that's going great. You feel good. I feel good. Yes, I feel very good. Um. All right, let me ask you this. Top four favorite politicians ever. And they have to be real people. Oh, they have to be real, meaning alive, or they truly existed, they truly exist. In other words, you know the guy from the West Wing, he wasn't really president, No, he was not. Um, I would say, surely Chisholm. I would say, Bobby Kennedy. I would say Abraham Lincoln. I would say, Um. You know one of the people I think is really great who is still living, but who has done really great work on an issue like climate change, for example, is Jerry Brown. UM governor, former governor, former governor of California, Jerry Brown. And I believe he was in her ten times practically, Yes, you broke all the records. Yeah, I mean I didn't agree with everything he did, but UM, I do appreciate that he always as a leader, had a vision of the future and tried to connect where we're going to end up with where we are now. Um, and thinking about solutions and ways to mitigate harm in the future. And do you ever when you feel frustrated by politics or exhausted or sort of sort of feel like sisiphus um, do you ever look to any of these moments in these politicians careers as an inspiration or I do? I mean, look, you know someone I've been thinking a lot about because I am running for president is Shirley chisholm Um. I love the fact that she would just own that microphone and speak truth and unburdened by what might what others might think of, as as the appropriateness of her being present and speaking as forcefully and as strongly she did. You know, she that famous saying she was unbought and unbossed. And I take great inspiration from that because she understood that she was a voice of truth and a voice that must be heard. And she just went to that microphone and took hold of it and didn't ask permission. Someone, I'm surprised that you left off the list. And may he rest in peace, Sonny Bono. Oh he wasn't a politician. Oh he was. He was a congressman. Oh yeah, sorry, So guess what I got that one right, jerk? No, you're not a jerk. I just feel really good that I got Sonny Bono correct. Uh, okay, changing gears here. Net neutrality, what does it mean? I mean, what will it make it harder for me to upload my chili recipe on ron Burgundy Chili recipes dot com. Well, if we're committed to net neutrality, you will be able to upload your chill with no problem. Um. The problem is that there are people in Washington, d C. That are trying to end net neutrality, and I am vehemently opposed to that. Everyone should have equal access. It's like being on a freeway, and why should somebody who has more money be able to be in a lane that moves quicker and with with greater access than you know, a working person who doesn't have the kind of money to spend extra on a lane, a specific lane on a freeway. And the argument for it is just focus revenue and you could tax it and that sort of thing. Well, the argument for ending end lenge is basically, let the so called free market have its way. But the free market doesn't necessarily represent a fair market, and we have to understand the difference. And this is the point about the role of government. The role of government should be to have some level of oversight and ability to regulate behaviors that might become abusive in a way that harms consumers. And you know, I mean I was Attorney general California, the largest state in the country, forty million people, for two terms. One of my primary responsibilities was to fight for consumers, and so it ranged from always taking a position on net neutrality and in favor of that, to fighting for homeowners against the five big banks the United States, to fighting against pharmaceutical companies that were trying and suppress UM what was happening around developing generic drugs. UM there. Their abuses will occur, and we have to acknowledge that, and so we have to have rules in place that allow all people to have access to certain fundamental resources, and net neutrality is one of those issues. There is been a lot of discussion about voter turnout. Voter not so much voter turnout. Um, come on round. What am I trying to say here? Okay, uh, get it together, you can do this. Um, I'm just gonna spit it out. Should we get rid of the electoral college is a two parter. Should we get rid of it? And If so, where's the end Do we have to get rid of all the colleges? So the electoral college is a different and separate issue than college and universities. So that's not what that means. And we should definitely keep so we don't have to get rid of the Ivy League for instance. Correct, they should remain intact. Electoral college. I think electoral college and getting rid of it should be on the table for discussion. I'm open to that conversation. Um, it is an odd system when you try to explain it to it's difficult to explain overseas. Overseas I meant by Lake Michigan. Those are lakes and seas beautiful, gorgeous. Let me tell you it's gorgeous. The waters of Michigan Island. You literally you think you're in Disneyland looking at like you know, the fake water in Disneyland and disney World. You can on the surface of those legs, see right down to the clear, clear blue, beautiful water right down to the bottom. It's extraordinary. We think we have nice water in California. Let me tell you nothing. It's true. I've always said that in Carolina. Doesn't believe me, And that's why we're going to take a road trip to Legs and then you can get that boat. Is that's what the point was? Fresh water catamaran? Yeah, which is different? Get it ocean water. Here's something that's interesting. I'd read a recent court ruling in favor of a woman who was ticketed for giving a police officer the middle finger, arguing that she was protected to do so under the First Amendment. Thoughts, I think anyone should be able to give anyone the finger and not be concerned about getting arrested. Yes, it's a form of expression. I've been arrested so many times for that though. That's the only problems to Yeah, now that's a different category of expression. Um So, when did you know? And I probably should have asked this earlier, when did you know you had to run for president? Did someone double dare you? No? You know? It was really more? Um, I guess fundamentally it was. You know, I was raised by a mother. She raised two of us, my sister and me, and she was the kind of parent that if you came home complaining about something, the first thing she do is look at you. And she was like five ft tall. My mother was five ft tall. If you ever met her, you would have thought she was seven ft tall. And if you came home complaining about something, the first thing she do is she'd look at you and she'd say, well, what are you going to do about it? So I decided to run for president? Got you no excuses, just why why playing? Just get out there and try to fix it, make some changes. Now, most presidents get dogs when they're elected to the White House. That's a great point, unless they're psychopaths. If you are elected president, what kind of puppy, Well, we'll see in the White House. Any thoughts on that? Oh, I would do a rescue dog, okay for sure. Whether breathe you like? I mean, you know I I love mutts, Yeah, I really do. Um they and they are smart and they are fun. Baxter, my dog, Baxter's a mutton. He's the love of my life, even though I love lasa apsos. M hm. But we don't have to comment on no comment. Now, this is kind of the question we've all been waiting for. People have been wondering, and I can't believe I'm asking this, but I'm just going to ask, are you considering me to be your vice president? And I will take no offense to your honest answer either way. But frankly, well, Ron, you know, I mean everything is on the table for consideration. That's not a no, that's not a no. You know what, I'll take any cabinet position too, whether it's commerce, labor, dance department, any of the top. What do you think about creating a new cabinet position, because you know there has been talking about how we need to expand the cabinet even more. Yeah, yeah, well what do you Because I part of why I'm here is is to really listen to you and get your thoughts as a potential constituent well and also as a potential partner as we go forward and lead the country. So I would like to create the cabinet position of Minister of Cool Cars. I just show up in a cool car every time. So and there would be a connection between that and growing the economy, like would we because we'd manufactured the cars here, right, I would hope. Shoot already made an agreement with Toyota. Yeah, you already made an agreement with Toyota. We just talked about the beauty of Michigan And no, I know, I mean, well, I can talk to him. I'll see if I can get out of it. Why did I sign that paperwork? Okay, yeah, we might have to revisit this conversation. Here's the thing, any candidate, the Iowa Caucus is a major thing. And of course part of the amazing state of Iowa is the Iowa State Fair. Yes, and we have a list over here of all the list of Iowa State Fair stick foods down and there are a shocking amount. And I'm just wondering if you, I mean, this is the first time you're looking at it. For there are eighty two items. Do any of them stand out to I mean, there's something down here that I saw, coconut mountain. I don't know what that is, but I'd order a couple of conut mountains. I would. Let's so, let's see the cheddar bacon cheese on a stick would be really on me, Apple fritter bites, double bacon, corn dog, good night Irene. Then there's something just called egg on a chocolate covered peanut butter bark that count me in the same here. I'm not convinced about egg on a stick. Yeah, that seems a little messy. Um. Then oh, let's see. So then oh, the Italian bacon wrap on a stick, palapeeno corn dog. I would definitely have that jumbo toasted marshmallow on a stick. You know, I don't love marshmallows. Okay, that's fair enough, all right, I'd like them. I mean, like the little ones on in hot cocoa if they're like really, I hope the marshmallow lobby doesn't get a wind of this. No, you know, And s'mores I like them, but um, Carolina, any of these stand out to you? Brisket, peanut butter, and jelly fritters. Um. Then there's something called hot lips, breaded chicken breast smothered with hots off, served with blue cheese dressing. So that's like buffalo wings by a four hour nap. Yeah, and you know what, that's what I'm thinking, Like, I could definitely eat my way through the Ioway. You can hold onto that list just because you will be canvassing there and it's just good to know this is going to be fun and you should come. Maybe I was gonna say, maybe we'll maybe we'll run in you guys should come? Would yeah? Okay, great, won't that be fun? That would be the best. Ron was actually so nervous about this question because you know what, Carolina, you guys can then Ron, you can interview people at the fair. It would be a wonderful way to get a real slice of American the Iowa State Fair located in Iowa, yes, August eight. It will be a nice mild temperature. Oh yeah, I wouldn't be sweating through my polyester suit at Senator Harris, we cannot thank you enough for joining us here on the podcast, for sharing your insight and your views, and we wish you all the best. We know it's a it's a long road, um, but it will end up positively for you no matter what. Thank you was a great sentence, by the way. All right, we'll be right back on the Ron Burgundy Podcast right after this. Welcome back to the Ron Burgundy Podcast. What a pleasure to have a U. S. Senator in the studio. And the cool thing is this upcoming election is going to be extremely elegant and orderly. She won't be treated any differently than any of the other candidates. I actually might run for president really probably not, No, it's what's right, you know what. Maybe I will, but I really don't have the time. Maybe let's just table it then, no, I have things to say. I gotta get on that campaign trail. It's a lot of work, I know. I just want to take a bath. You should run, though, I was thinking about actually a for city, Caroline. I was kidding. You literally have toilet paper stuck to your shoe. You've had it stuck there the whole day. I wish you told me that and not broadcast it on the podcast. That's all for today, folks. Thank you, Senator Kamala Harris. What an honor. And we're looking at low sixties for the next week or two, and then we're gonna take a jump and hit high seventies on Sunday. Up north here on this map, we're looking at some light showers. Sorry, I forgot my weather report. We're gonna we're gonna scrap this episode. We'll see you next week. The Run Burgundy Podcast is a production of I Heart Radio and Funnier Die. I'm Ron Burgundy. The host, writer, and executive producer. Carolina Barlow is my co host, writer, and producer. Our producers are Jack O'Brien, Nick Stump, Miles Gray, and Whitney hot Act. Our executive producer is Mike farre Our consulting producer is Andrew Steele. Our coordinating producer is Colin McDougall. Our associate producers are Anna Hosnier and Sophie Lichterman. Our writer is Jake Foblist. Our production coordinator is Hannah Jacobson. 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