An atheist, Andrew, calls to challenge Patrick’s claim that love cannot be accounted for through atheistic evolutionary processes. Patrick leads Andrew up to the point of admitting that, contrary to the atheist world view, immaterial realities, such as love and truth, are not only impossible to be derived from physical evolution, they are outside and above the physical realm. Even though they disagreed, Patrick invited Andrew to call back to discuss this further another time.

The Patrick Madrid Show: January 26, 2026 - Hour 1
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The Patrick Madrid Show: January 26, 2026 - Hour 2
51:06

The Patrick Madrid Show: January 26, 2026 - Hour 3
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