Patrick opens the hour turning his attention to a recent Stanford study suggesting COVID-19 vaccine benefits might have been overstated, sparking a raw and honest exchange about public trust, mandates, and the fallout on those who refused the shot. As calls come in, Patrick listens to a moving story from a lifelong Mormon feeling pulled towards Catholicism, then offers heartfelt, practical direction to Jenny, a convert wrestling with obstacles on her path to the Church. Conversations zigzag between faith and personal struggle with a sincerity that refuses to gloss over the hard parts.